The quality sucks. No one cares.

[KeithD]

A poster who asserts that "most of the stories here are shit" loses me from that point. No one is reading enough of the stories here to make such a judgment.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Got it in one. AngelRider is a regular (and to be fair, usually intelligent and evenhanded) commenter in LW. Her bugaboos tend to be poor writing, excessive revenge, unwarranted forgiveness, and violence, at least in my experience.

To be completely fair, AngelRider made a blanket statement in the OP about the amount of shitty stories on LitE. And while you're defending her, you say she's a regular commenter in LW.

I've posted 9 stories to LW this year alone (2023), and I have no comments in any of them from AngelRider. I almost always get comments from 26thNC, WarGamer, and other LW regulars, but nothing from AngelRider.

So, is AngelRider fairly reviewing the content? Or possibly just picking the shitty tags to follow for her bugaboos?

EDIT: Has AngelRider read any of my last three stories (links listed below)? Because there are no indications in comments there that I can see.

 

[NoTalentHack]

To be completely fair, AngelRider made a blanket statement in the OP about the amount of shitty stories on LitE. And while you're defending her, you say she's a regular commenter in LW.

I've posted 9 stories to LW this year alone (2023), and I have no comments in any of them from AngelRider. I almost always get comments from 26thNC, WarGamer, and other LW regulars, but nothing from AngelRider.

So, is AngelRider fairly reviewing the content? Or possibly just picking the shitty tags to follow for her bugaboos?

EDIT: Has AngelRider read any of my last three stories (links listed below)? Because there are no indications in comments there that I can see.

She's shown up in the comments section of almost every story I've written. She's shown up in comments sections of other stories similar to the types that I write. She doesn't seem (to my limited knowledge, based on comments she's made about her personal life) like the type of person that would be into swapping/swinging/cuck stories. I've also seen her over in Romance on mine and other folks' stories, too.

 

[SimonDoom]

A poster who asserts that "most of the stories here are shit" loses me from that point. No one is reading enough of the stories here to make such a judgment.

That's just how I feel. Blanket, universal statements are almost always wrong, whatever they are (I qualified my blanket, universal statement with "almost").

 

[Lifestyle66]

She's shown up in the comments section of almost every story I've written. She's shown up in comments sections of other stories similar to the types that I write. She doesn't seem (to my limited knowledge, based on comments she's made about her personal life) like the type of person that would be into swapping/swinging/cuck stories. I've also seen her over in Romance on mine and other folks' stories, too.

But her OP here in the forum said, "Most of the shit here is absolute shit."

I posted three stories last year to Romance, and again with no AR comments. But AR's OP said "for the last two years..."

I might not like "War and Peace". But I think it unfair for me to say most books like it are absolute shit, particularly if I haven't read it.

It would be an extremist and intolerant attitude if I were to declare most gay, lesbian, interracial, or incest, etc stories here absolute shit if I don't read them, just because they don't carry the tags I search for or are not posted in the category I prefer!

In fact, I've found, by entering some of the contests and challenges here, some very good stories written in categories which I wouldn't normally visit. Melissa's "Oyster River" story for last year's Pink Orchid challenge was particularly very well written and a joy to read. But I wouldn't normally click on the Lesbian category.

Some people might consider expanding their horizons and try not to be so judgmental.

In my opinion, Literotica provides a very good platform for everyone, regardless of talent, training, or writing skills to try something new in writing and posting their own stories. Anyone just starting out writing for the first time would probably be far less than perfect. So, anyone with more experience should be more tolerant and encouraging to new writers, ... unless those experienced ones are so jealous and petty as to BE the 1-bombers! And if AngeRider wants those new authors to improve and provide better stories, then she might consider providing more constructive criticism.

 

[Sparky74]

No, the harsh truth is NOT inherently personal. You miss the point completely.

You should be free to criticize story content, or criticize the way stories are written. If you feel that certain kinds of stories promote harmful beliefs or actions, you should be free to say that.

But there's a huge difference between THAT and saying:

This site is full of perverts.
This site is a sick place.
Anybody who writes what I dislike is a bad person.

Or calling people derogatory names or personally attacking an individual author.

Or dropping nasty remarks at individuals or groups of forum contributors for the obvious purpose of simply getting an unpleasant reaction.

Any of that kind of talk is unnecessary to express a legitimate substantive point. I see no reason for the Site to put up with people who want to ignite flame throwers as opposed to engaging in legitimate dialogue with fellow authors.

I don't think it's that difficult to tell the difference. There's nothing in your post, for example, that's worthy of being reported or deleted.

If you think an author has offered a stupid opinion and you say so and explain why, there's nothing wrong with that. But if you call another author "stupid," that's a different story. You can fully make your point without calling another author names. You can attack the point being made without attacking the person.

Spot on Simon.

 

[ChloeTzang]

Bla

Someone needs to read in a few other categories.

Personally, I think the gems to be found on Literotica are worth the effort of winnowing through the stories you don't like.

 

[ChloeTzang]

I don't really care about the quality level of stories overall here or posters' opinions about that. I concentrate on the quality of my own stories and in maintaining a supportive readership--which I get here and which justifies me posting my stories here.

And THAT sums it up in a nutshell.

For myself, I'll echo Keith here. I focus writing my own stories and on improving my own writing, and of course entertaining. Love my readers, even tho they're all missing the next chapter of Jeong and a few other series installments (guilty expression writ across face). Literotica has been a very rewarding and very positive experience for me - and it's had some great spinoffs.

 

[JaxRhapsody]

As evidenced in other threads with "authors" admitting to having multiple usernames here on LitE, the fact the OP doesn't have any stories published does not equate to the person not posting stories.

Some have admitted to using other non-publishing usernames to allow them to post in the forums and attack other authors with negative comments, without the risk of their own stories receiving retribution.

Ah... the bitch made users.

 

[JaxRhapsody]

I think I'm more thin skinned that others on here. Hateful comments, even hateful comments that have a point, bother me. I'm not the kind that gets a kick when they attack me because hate is a valid response to what I wrote. I can't go that far.

With how I grew up and the years spent online, after what happened with a local car board years ago that yielded a 30-40, or may have been twenty something(at 40PPP) page thread ridiculing me, the internet is the last place somebody who's simply a picture and Verdana words can hurt me.

I do realize what it seems some others in general don't, or just think becuz innerwebz is a valid excuse, is that there's a real person behind that name, pic, verdana words, and act like nobody is real. Most users the only "threat" they can be is angry typing. Sticks and stones isn't a serve all, but the shit type won't phase me, they can't do nothing else. I could give my address and wish a mother fucker would and they won't- might get swatted at worst, but they ain't about to waste a vacation/sick days to roll up to the what's really unknown with a chance they won't make it back.

 

[gunhilltrain]

She's shown up in the comments section of almost every story I've written. She's shown up in comments sections of other stories similar to the types that I write. She doesn't seem (to my limited knowledge, based on comments she's made about her personal life) like the type of person that would be into swapping/swinging/cuck stories. I've also seen her over in Romance on mine and other folks' stories, too.

I looked at her bio again and there is something - off about it. It's as if she's got some grudge or chip on her shoulder, and she's daring to be challenged by someone.

I should read her comments on your stories to get a better idea of what she is doing here. Maybe tomorrow.

 

[theWollstonecraftWoman]

With how I grew up and the years spent online, after what happened with a local car board years ago that yielded a 30-40, or may have been twenty something(at 40PPP) page thread ridiculing me, the internet is the last place somebody who's simply a picture and Verdana words can hurt me.

I do realize what it seems some others in general don't, or just think becuz innerwebz is a valid excuse, is that there's a real person behind that name, pic, verdana words, and act like nobody is real. Most users the only "threat" they can be is angry typing. Sticks and stones isn't a serve all, but the shit type won't phase me, they can't do nothing else. I could give my address and wish a mother fucker would and they won't- might get swatted at worst, but they ain't about to waste a vacation/sick days to roll up to the what's really unknown with a chance they won't make it back.

Thanks, I probably need that.

 

[mirafrida]

Endeavoring to respond to the OP with the same spirt i meet hate-comments on my stories...

"I'm sorry this website wasn't to your taste - I hope you find another website you enjoy more!"

 

[MillieDynamite]

Yada, yada, yada, no one will ever be happy with everything here. Find the stories you like, and let the others alone. There are some truly great writers on this site. Some of them are responding to your comments and not too happy you lump them in with those who don't write well.

We who write all care and don't appreciate blanket attacks. Or am I full of shit?

 

[NoTalentHack]

I looked at her bio again and there is something - off about it. It's as if she's got some grudge or chip on her shoulder, and she's daring to be challenged by someone.

I should read her comments on your stories to get a better idea of what she is doing here. Maybe tomorrow.

I was curious, so I went looking. Here are the comments she left on some of my stories.

After the Future is Gone Pt. 2

Jesus christ that was hot. Only one other writer on here gets to me. Interesting.

Also-Ran

Well, this will likely piss off some of the boys. Just a fair warning, not that I expect you to heed it.

No one should feel as though your spouse settled for you. That is a shitty feeling, especially if you truly love your husband or wife. I have some experience, my husband refused to believe I loved him when we were first together. Oh he believed I loved him but that I would probably leave him someday for a former partner who happens to be my best friend. So, I get this story all too well. It took me a long time to convince him that he was all I wanted. That I was never happier. My best friend worked hard to be his friend too and to never make him or I, for that matter, feel she was going to interfere or make us uncomfortable. Yes, she.

So, no, there were no dumb ass letters or goofy carrying on like immature school girls. We have never been that, not even when together. We were more likely to try and knock each other out, but that's a different story.

One can argue that I got some understanding of how he felt when the dumb ass had an emotional affair. Still hurt but I didn't fly off into a ridiculous rage. We worked it out and be got his shit together. My life is not a story on this site.

With all that said, loss is loss. Grief is grief. People say everyone grieves in different ways but some or all the stages are eventually reached at some point. I know about that too. Shock, denial, guilt, anger, depression, acceptance, moving on. Those are the 7 stages of grief. Anyone who has experienced loss has gone through some or all of those. In writing, each have their own challenges but anger seems to be the one that is most easily approached. Approached yes but successfully portrayed?

Everyone gets angry so it's so easy to tap into our emotional baggage to come up with how we might feel about any particular situation. Being second in our spouse's hearts seems prime for some serious ranting and raving. And yes, there would be that but it's not enough. Even if one gets stuck at anger, very often people in grief will move up and down the stages for any number of circumstances and reasons.

People aren't scripted. So when one focuses on anger, hate and rage to the exception of all else, one is left with the impression of entitlement. And that presents a whole new set of challenges. It isn't very difficult to turn a sympathetic character into a whiny entitled angry bitch even if he may have just cause.

This story is already quite long for the basic plot. You spent a very long time repeating accusations, mired in anger, indignation and punishment. It was easy to skip paragraphs and not really miss anything. Your character development was driven by so much rage that I feel he became unsympathetic, at least far less sympathetic than you intended.

I'm not going to continue because half this story was one giant examination of rage with no movement forward other than to torture the wife with more rage "for the kids" because that's a gift. It's also one of the biggest clichés on here.

I'm sorry it just didn't work for me. It needed far more nuanced.

At the End of the Tour

It was kind of all over the place.

Fathers, Brothers, and Sons

Not bad, not bad at all. Mature and thoughtful.

February Sucks - Sessions

Two things.

"Although, in some ways, I suppose he kind of did me a favor. I look back at how Linda treated me, and it really was shitty for a long time. Yeah, him picking her out of a crowd and fucking her is... well, let's just say he absolutely deserved what he got. But I also probably would have lived out the rest of my life with that bitch."

That statement perfect highlights what was missing from the first one because you are right, the original story wasn't realistic. It wasn't realistic at all. I agree with you that elements could be but not in the totality. I suppose that is why I take umbrage when others argue how wonderful the first story was.

George went to lengths to portray the marriage as perfect and that what Linda did could be viewed as reasonable. Together I do not believe that is possible unless the perfect marriage was a delusion. Your story deconstructed that delusion and offered a counterpoint, an explanation both for why Jim might have believed his marriage was perfect and why Linda might show so much callous disregard.

I agree the original is nightmare fuel. That alone doesn't make it a great story. Divisive, infuriating, thought provoking.. sure. Most people do react to gaslighting and that story seemed intent to convince the reader that the emperor has no clothes... or rather, that well adjusted women who love and respect their husbands would publicly humiliate and emasculate them in order to cheat with a celebrity if given the right chance. Its the how of it. I call bullshit

Funeral Dirge for a Fairytale

Nope. Not even going to try and risk it.

Longings From the Past

For once I don't feel like I need a shower after reading a story involving an older man and younger woman. It wasn't cheap and adolescent. I appreciate that. This was truly lovely. Thank you.

So, yeah, they're all over the place. I disagree with some of them, but I think they were coming from a fair and honest place. I also believe she's acted as an editor on here previously, but I couldn't swear to that.

I'm pretty much willing to chalk it up to "got drunk, went off, deleted it" or something similar.

 

[Mastered_again]

Yada, yada, yada, no one will ever be happy with everything here. Find the stories you like, and let the others alone. There are some truly great writers on this site. Some of them are responding to your comments and not too happy you lump them in with those who don't write well.

We who write all care and don't appreciate blanket attacks. Or am I full of shit?

Yes, but not in this case.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I was curious, so I went looking. Here are the comments she left on some of my stories.

After the Future is Gone Pt. 2


Also-Ran


At the End of the Tour


Fathers, Brothers, and Sons


February Sucks - Sessions


Funeral Dirge for a Fairytale


Longings From the Past


So, yeah, they're all over the place. I disagree with some of them, but I think they were coming from a fair and honest place. I also believe she's acted as an editor on here previously, but I couldn't swear to that.

I'm pretty much willing to chalk it up to "got drunk, went off, deleted it" or something similar.

Thank you, that helps. In her biography, she hints that she was an editor but she doesn't confirm it. Also, she claims that she had wanted to be a writer for a long time but she hasn't posted anything in the two years that she has been here.

Overall, she strikes me as being somewhat quirky, but not in an entirely good way. She also rambles at times about herself in her comments. Her original post on here was what set off all of this (91 comments so far), yet I don't think she has responded herself. That's about all I can make of her at this point.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Bitching about free things is counterproductive.

On the other hand, bitching about things that cost actual money is fun. Ahsoka and The Wheel of Time for instance. There are thousands of stories on this site that are better than those shows.

Our good friend Samuelx has written better stuff than what those shows produce.

 

[lovecraft68]

After watching Rings of Power I'd say the quality sucks and no one care extends to all major production studios these days.