Tonight, Pennsylvania will tell us everything re: Republicans & Trump

[HisArpy]

http://electionreturns.pa.gov at this very moment says:

LAMB, CONOR (DEM) 49.83% Votes: 113,906
SACCONE, RICHARD (REP) 49.56% Votes: 113,293
MILLER, DREW GRAY (LIB) 0.6% Votes: 1,380

613 votes difference between Lamb and Sacrificial Lamb er I mean Saccone who was killed by (Libertarian) Miller. And by Tromp.

Once again you go climbing out on some thin branch. The USA is divided 50/50 right now on which direction the country should go. Yet you think that a 50/50 result race between Democrats and Republican's means that Trump's policies are being rejected? You need to stop spewing the MSM's fantasy BS and start thinking for yourself. If you can that is.

 

[Hypoxia]

So, Trump LOST the election? When?

Name the elector you voted for who cast the ballot that installed Tromp.

You keep trying to say that the "popular vote" should have been the determining factor. Unfortunately for you and those who think like you that's not the way our system of governance and voting was set up. And it was done this way to specifically PREVENT what you want - to keep large demographic centers from controlling the surrounding areas. Feudal England was a model of what the founders were trying to prevent, Yet, there you go, throwing a "popular vote!" temper tantrum just so that you can start living the high life of being a serf for the lords of the castle.

I'll say again: Tromp lost the nation but won the game. He, or HILLARY, could have won the game with a mere 23% of the popular vote. Do you think that would go over well? Would that 'winner' have the consent of the governed? Would YOU accept a 23% HILLARY? Ha. You'd squeal like a stuck pig.

By your reckoning, a resident of Delaware or Vermont is worth more than a Floridian or Texan. Bullshit. Presidential elections, like gubernatorial races, should be straight-up who-gets-most-votes. Candidates should work every state, every county, for every single fucking vote, not just focus on a few battleground states and ignore the rest. Most of us are fucking irrelevant.

The US electoral system was not based on noble principles. Electors, and the discounting of slave and Indian populations, were political ploys. Those ploys are obsolete. It's time to stop rewarding losers.

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Once again you go climbing out on some thin branch. The USA is divided 50/50 right now on which direction the country should go. Yet you think that a 50/50 result race between Democrats and Republican's means that Trump's policies are being rejected? You need to stop spewing the MSM's fantasy BS and start thinking for yourself. If you can that is.

It's not the votes it's who they voted for. A seat that's been red forever flips. That means something whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

LMAO at the excuses Republicans are throwing up.

I especially appreciate them whining that the Dems just had a more appealing candidate.

Why, it was just a little while ago they were saying the Dems were finished, over, because they had "no leaders," and "no one to run."

 

[Hypoxia]

Once again you go climbing out on some thin branch. The USA is divided 50/50 right now on which direction the country should go. Yet you think that a 50/50 result race between Democrats and Republican's means that Trump's policies are being rejected? You need to stop spewing the MSM's fantasy BS and start thinking for yourself. If you can that is.

This was not a national vote. This was a local election in a very (R), very gerrymandered district, very Trompian, that flipped. All politics is local.

Is there a trend of (R) districts to flip to (D)? That's the pattern so far in Tromp's term. (R)s aligned with Tromp LOSE despite heavy outside money. I'd call that a rejection. BTW the national split is more like 60/40. Tromp has never neared 50%.

Turn away from FauxNewz, BriteFart, InfoWard. They do you no good.

 

[Dribble]

That's the truth.

You don't care about the country or it's people, you just care about your party and keeping it rich and powerful.

That is only your truth...clouded by all the pot you smoke. See all the kids protesting today? Most will be voters in 2020...You may want to wipe your ass before you stick your head up it next time.

 

[Adre]

This went from a district where the Republican ran unopposed for two straight elections to one where the Republican could not get half the votes cast. There’s your Trump effect. Forget the lame excuses.

 

[BotanyBoy]

That is only your truth...clouded by all the pot you smoke

Not even close bubba....you're a demonstrable civil rights hater and a well documented adversary of economic liberty.

You're not a liberal, you're a basic Democrat partisan that leans hard left, the two are not the same thing.

See all the kids protesting today? Most will be voters in 2020...You may want to wipe your ass before you stick your head up it next time.

No they won't.....young people don't have the gumption to get off their ass and go vote and that trend isn't changing anytime soon. Most of those kids will at some point, like it or not, have to grow up and when they do they will vote their wallet like the other 98~% of of the voting population. That means lots of them are going to go (R)ed.

 

[BobBalouski]

"...the establishment sidelining the Trump Resistance?"

But the voters in the district knew that wasn't true: If Lamb made anything clear in his campaign, it's that he most certainly will vote with Trump on occasion. On guns, for one thing: Lamb opposes a ban on assault weapons, such as the AR-15 he was shown firing in one of his campaign ads. He supports the president's trade policies, too including the new tariffs. He pooh-poohs single-payer healthcare. He's as "pro-military" as a person could be. (He is also "personally opposed" to abortion, though he says it should be legal.)

Lamb, for all his fresh-faced charm, ran and won as a Trump Democrat – a flashback to the "Republican Lite" candidacies the Democrats specialized in during the Clinton '90s and '00s. He was so reluctant to criticize the president that NBC reporter Kacie Hunt made it her mission on Tuesday to ask him about Trump and try to extract something. Lamb wouldn't rise to the bait.

"Just try getting this guy to say anything critical of Trump," Hunt marveled on MSNBC. An equally mystified Guardian reporter noted, accurately, that "Lamb has been almost painfully non-controversial." In a rally over the weekend in a rural corner of the district, the president of the United Mine Workers, Cecil Roberts, summed up the reasons why white people were about to vote for a Democrat here, hailing Lamb as "a God-fearing, union-supporting, gun-owning, job-protecting, pension-defending, Social Security-believing, sending-drug-dealers-to-jail Democrat."

https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...hould-worry-about-conor-lambs-victory-w517866

Good thing he's got that pathetically pitiful, totally politically partisan "D" after his name, or the socialists/progressives would have absolutely nothing to crow about winning a virtually meaningless special election by 600 or some votes.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=88854446&postcount=1

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Ha ha

Just keep telling yourself it was "virtually meaningless."

The Number One issue for voters in this race was healthcare. Followed by EARNED Benefits like SS and Medicaid, Protecting Pensions and UNIONS. Lamb crushed on all of them.

Republicans had nothing but "Tax Cuts" that help nobody.

Good thing he's got that pathetically pitiful, totally politically partisan "D" after his name, or the socialists/progressives would have absolutely nothing to crow about winning a virtually meaningless special election by 600 or some votes.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=88854446&postcount=1

 

[BobBalouski]

Ha ha

Just keep telling yourself it was "virtually meaningless."

The Number One issue for voters in this race was healthcare. Followed by EARNED Benefits like SS and Medicaid, Protecting Pensions and UNIONS. Lamb crushed on all of them.

Republicans had nothing but "Tax Cuts" that help nobody.

Outside of your socialist/progressive/"D" and RINO/conservative/"R" politically pathetic statist bottle...

...NO ONE really cares, wannabe.

 

[Wrong Element]

You are really not very educated. Why did the Democrats lose the Senate? Why did they lose the House? They lost it because they went to far left and lost the middle vote. They lost the Independents. This is well known fact that has been discussed for 6 years.

I don't know where you keep coming up with the +70000....http://www.dos.pa.gov/VotingElectio...r Registration/2016 Annual Report 7-14-17.pdf I realize this is not broken down into Congressional Districts, but it is broken down by Counties. Go to the Appendix. It shows the number of registered voters and their affliation

There are a lot of places in the U.S. where registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans, but where everyone votes Republican. Typically, these are rural and overwhelmingly white areas in the South and Appalachia that trended away from Democrats over "cultural issues" and general discomfort with being part of multiracial and multiethnic coalitions. The existence of Barack Obama, apart from anything Obama actually did, was the death blow.

That line that goes south and west from western Pennsylvania through West Virginia, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Southern Missouri has trended away from the Democrats over the last 15 years more than any other part of the country (if you wonder why no one talks about Missouri as a swing state anymore when that was still common even 10 years ago, that's why). West Virginia was probably Trump's best state, and it voted for Jimmy Carter in 1980 when hardly anyone else did.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

There are a lot of places in the U.S. where registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans, but where everyone votes Republican. Typically, these are rural and overwhelmingly white areas in the South and Appalachia that trended away from Democrats over "cultural issues" and general discomfort with being part of multiracial and multiethnic coalitions. The existence of Barack Obama, apart from anything Obama actually did, was the death blow.

That line that goes south and west from western Pennsylvania through West Virginia, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Southern Missouri has trended away from the Democrats over the last 15 years more than any other part of the country (if you wonder why no one talks about Missouri as a swing state anymore when that was still common even 10 years ago, that's why). West Virginia was probably Trump's best state, and it voted for Jimmy Carter in 1980 when hardly anyone else did.

https://media.giphy.com/media/wMY3LjQQMqo5W/giphy.gif

 

[BobBalouski]

Wrong throws out yet another completely fallacious bone and one of the lowest hanging fruits of the #PityTheDisabled tribe appears almost immediately to scarf it up for another woe-is-victim-me dowry item.

Hey, Wrong: tell us how Reagan virtually swept the very same geos 34 years ago you now claim have just fallen away in the last 15 years, and especially since half-#PityTheDisabled Obummer won?

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/roflmao.gif

 

[EternalFantasies]

It's by a handful of votes, and CNN is calling it a testament to how "Trump territory" is being invaded!


The most pathetic name in news.

 

[phrodeau]

It's by a handful of votes, and CNN is calling it a testament to how "Trump territory" is being invaded!


The most pathetic name in news.

The results would never have been as close as they were, if Trump hadn't put in his oar.

 

[doowdniw]

It's by a handful of votes, and CNN is calling it a testament to how "Trump territory" is being invaded!


The most pathetic name in news.

Yeah, not so much an invasion as a reversion. Go Trump! Winning!

 

[IrezumiKiss]

The results would never have been as close as they were, if Trump hadn't put in his oar.

WeakHorse Thlump pissed all over the place and tried to call it rain.

https://media.giphy.com/media/26DOuprWNEM8qXXlS/source.gif

#PityThePissAbled

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/roflmao.gif

 

[richard_daily]

So....democrats...that vote republican for 15 years and tend to vote republican at the local level and state level as well...you sure they are Democrats? I would say they aren't.

I am living in one of these states right now. Are you? So who has a better take on the dynamics happening in the state? Me? Or you?

Obama had to move to the right...because who had control of the House and Senate? And he did what he needed to help the country the best he could. Seriously. You think you are smarter than you are. But don't take my word...just sit back and watch and learn.

You're ready to jettison 70,000 voters at your whim?

Cool.

Your argument sounds like one Trump would make. "I know how to fix it, but I'm not going to tell you".

 

[richard_daily]

There are a lot of places in the U.S. where registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans, but where everyone votes Republican. Typically, these are rural and overwhelmingly white areas in the South and Appalachia that trended away from Democrats over "cultural issues" and general discomfort with being part of multiracial and multiethnic coalitions. The existence of Barack Obama, apart from anything Obama actually did, was the death blow.

That line that goes south and west from western Pennsylvania through West Virginia, Eastern Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Southern Missouri has trended away from the Democrats over the last 15 years more than any other part of the country (if you wonder why no one talks about Missouri as a swing state anymore when that was still common even 10 years ago, that's why). West Virginia was probably Trump's best state, and it voted for Jimmy Carter in 1980 when hardly anyone else did.

The existance of Obama isn't the problem, it's the Democrats reluctance to take on any issues that matter to working people in those states. That's the main reason why those states are flipping red.

You want to win those voters back? Push for single payer and stop pushing gun control.

You want to keep them red? make them false promises and take away sporting rifles.

This is pretty basic stuff, that even Bill Clinton admitted to after his AWB expired.

 

[HisArpy]

This was not a national vote. This was a local election in a very (R), very gerrymandered district, very Trompian, that flipped. All politics is local.

Is there a trend of (R) districts to flip to (D)? That's the pattern so far in Tromp's term. (R)s aligned with Tromp LOSE despite heavy outside money. I'd call that a rejection. BTW the national split is more like 60/40. Tromp has never neared 50%.

Turn away from FauxNewz, BriteFart, InfoWard. They do you no good.

So, if the actual national split is around 60/40 in favor of D's, HOW did Saccone get 49.56% of the votes? I guess around 10% voted across the ticket, that's how. I also don't call a difference of .44% of the vote a "rejection".

The "trend" isn't any such thing. As you say, all politics is local, thus any local race cannot be used to predict an election still months away. There are too many factors still in play and/or unknown. And then there's that historical fact that the house flips on mid-term elections. If it flips this year it's a HISTORICAL TREND, not a rejection of Trump or Republicans.

But hey, believe what you want. It's wrong, but you can still believe it if you want to.

 

[coati]

Hey there, GB Litsters! Just dropping in to congratulate the followers of the Stable Genius on losing another election in a so-called Trump district. Man, the voters in the right wing districts sure are glad the Genius is making Amerika great again.

Keep on parroting your talking points from the Russian bots! It seems to be having great results.

Love,
Coati

 

[someoneyouknow]

Like Alabama, it's all over but for the whining of the loser.

The Democrats should be thanking the con artist. He worked really hard to get their candidate elected.

 

[AngusBridie]

I’ve decided that I should be incharge both your political parties suckass

 

[RoryN]

I’ve decided that I should be incharge both your political parties suckass

No thanks. You can't even write a proper sentence.