What is your definition of "bisexual"?

[Stella_Omega]

I think the label simply describes what's there.

Reasons for why it's there is a side issue. And things change up, the label changes.

 

[Noira]

Labels, to me personally, are bullshit. I suppose I'm homoromantic and pansexual but whatwith the monogamy that makes things rather difficult to process. At that point I gave up and said, fuck it all, but I'm not a laundry list of kinks and sexuality. Everyone defines bisexual or pansexual or whateversexual differently, it seems, and declaring myself a label is just living myself up to expectations I didn't chose to meet. The short of it is that if someone's going to write me off for my label, cheers to them; I write people off for their labels sometimes too and sometimes I've been proven right and sometimes I've been proven wrong. I fall for people, not labels. Somewhere in this shallow world I'll find my soulmate. Maybe my soulmate won't even identify as a gender. What the hell do I do then! It's not bisexual if I'm in love with a third-gendered panromantic asexual, right? Bloody hell.

We need a comprehensive dictionary of queer terms so that everyone uses them all the same way. But I define bisexual as someone who is sexually attracted to both men and women at this current point in time, and monogamous as someone who, whether or not they're sexually attracted to both genders, is still mine at this point in time.

Gotta consider all the elements:

-Are you attracted sexually to men, women, men or women, or people of ambiguous or alternative gender declarations?
-Are you able to get romantically attached to men, women, men or women, or people of ambiguous or alternative gender declarations?
-Are you willing to fuck multiple people of multiple gender declarations?

I guess one of the problems is the trend of 'bisexual porn' being threesomes, but to me all these things are separate elements that make up human sexuality: sexual attraction, romantic attachment, and mono/polygamy/amory.

Make your own label. Wave your own flag. Change it as you see fit. Be proud to be yourself because if someone wants you for something you're not, why the hell do you want them, anyway?

People shouldn't have to be hurt because of what you personally identify with and who you want to fuck, and people shouldn't be hurt because of what I personally identify with and who I want to fuck.

It's when people try to define for me what I should personally identify with and want to fuck that the problem lies. I know what I want. Know for yourself what you want. Isn't that good enough? We all have sexual preferences. Let's respect each other's, even if we disagree... you don't have to fuck their prospective partners, after all.

 

[lustatopia]

Labels, to me personally, are bullshit. I suppose I'm homoromantic and pansexual but whatwith the monogamy that makes things rather difficult to process. At that point I gave up and said, fuck it all, but I'm not a laundry list of kinks and sexuality. Everyone defines bisexual or pansexual or whateversexual differently, it seems, and declaring myself a label is just living myself up to expectations I didn't chose to meet. The short of it is that if someone's going to write me off for my label, cheers to them; I write people off for their labels sometimes too and sometimes I've been proven right and sometimes I've been proven wrong. I fall for people, not labels. Somewhere in this shallow world I'll find my soulmate. Maybe my soulmate won't even identify as a gender. What the hell do I do then! It's not bisexual if I'm in love with a third-gendered panromantic asexual, right? Bloody hell.

We need a comprehensive dictionary of queer terms so that everyone uses them all the same way. But I define bisexual as someone who is sexually attracted to both men and women at this current point in time, and monogamous as someone who, whether or not they're sexually attracted to both genders, is still mine at this point in time.

Gotta consider all the elements:

-Are you attracted sexually to men, women, men or women, or people of ambiguous or alternative gender declarations?
-Are you able to get romantically attached to men, women, men or women, or people of ambiguous or alternative gender declarations?
-Are you willing to fuck multiple people of multiple gender declarations?

I guess one of the problems is the trend of 'bisexual porn' being threesomes, but to me all these things are separate elements that make up human sexuality: sexual attraction, romantic attachment, and mono/polygamy/amory.

Make your own label. Wave your own flag. Change it as you see fit. Be proud to be yourself because if someone wants you for something you're not, why the hell do you want them, anyway?

People shouldn't have to be hurt because of what you personally identify with and who you want to fuck, and people shouldn't be hurt because of what I personally identify with and who I want to fuck.

It's when people try to define for me what I should personally identify with and want to fuck that the problem lies. I know what I want. Know for yourself what you want. Isn't that good enough? We all have sexual preferences. Let's respect each other's, even if we disagree... you don't have to fuck their prospective partners, after all.

Wow, that's a powerfully and clearly stated post. Bravo!

 

[londonsparkles]

I get that if you're a lesbian you want to be with a girl who isn't going to be checking out guys when you're walking down the street. I like the term homoflexible; I like girls. Always have. Always will. I have, however, been attracted to men. I don't define attraction by gender though. The guys I've been attracted to have always been people I've been close friends with and it's been because I've felt a connection on a deeper level. I don't think I could have a relationship with a guy for various reasons that don't need going into here but I'm not going to rule it out 100% because I don't believe you can choose who you fall in love with and if my soulmate wanders into my life and turns out to be a man I'm not going to turn him away because of the need to stick to a label, but I won't actively go out looking to attract men.

It's 3am, did that make any sense??

 

[Etoile]

See, what I wonder is, does thinking Ian McKellen is totally hot and wanting to have his doubly-gay love children make me bisexual? What if I think Johnny Depp is gorgeous? Those are some very attractive men.

 

[CandiCame]

See, what I wonder is, does thinking Ian McKellen is totally hot and wanting to have his doubly-gay love children make me bisexual? What if I think Johnny Depp is gorgeous? Those are some very attractive men.

OMG, Johnny Depp- I somehow think that wanting to fuck Depp somehow still lets you be strait- I have no idea why- but I think it's just accepted that the straightest man in the world wouldn't turn him down.

 

[londonsparkles]

I think Johnny Depp is a legitimate exception that I can't see anyone arguing with...! Also, Hugh Jackman... As a performer myself, a man who looks that good and sings that beautifully and dances that well could never be turned away!! There's an exception to every rule

 

[SubmissiveBrat]

OMG, Johnny Depp- I somehow think that wanting to fuck Depp somehow still lets you be strait- I have no idea why- but I think it's just accepted that the straightest man in the world wouldn't turn him down.

I hope you are joking or you just made the most ridiculous statement I read so far on Lit.

I like him as an actor but I do not think he is irresistibly hot.

 

[SubmissiveBrat]

I am definitely bi. My girlfriend is a lesbian but not a man hater like some I have met. She can still look at a man and remark that he is a hot guy though he sparks no sexual desire. I never understood how certain lesbians I know feel revolted by men. I think to feel a revulsion to anybody due to their sex or orientation kind of odd. These same reactions are not unlike the straight people who are haters. But that is just my opinion.

I identify more with woman but I still love the feeling of a hard masculine body attached to a big cock.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I am definitely bi. My girlfriend is a lesbian but not a man hater like some I have met. She can still look at a man and remark that he is a hot guy though he sparks no sexual desire. I never understood how certain lesbians I know feel revolted by men. I think to feel a revulsion to anybody due to their sex or orientation kind of odd. These same reactions are not unlike the straight people who are haters. But that is just my opinion.

I identify more with woman but I still love the feeling of a hard masculine body attached to a big cock.

As one of those revolting, man hating lesbians I guess I'd just have to tell you that I don't necessarily hate cock, it's the assholes they are attached to that I generally dislike. (that really not true. I dislike cock too).

I do question your level of exposure and experience, BTW. There are actually damn few women that hate every man, myself included. But when speaking in generalities, as we are forced to do usually, 99.9999% of all men are pigs who hold no interest for me nor do I chose to be near them. Same goes for bi and straight chick that do and want to "try me on".

 

[SubmissiveBrat]

As one of those revolting, man hating lesbians I guess I'd just have to tell you that I don't necessarily hate cock, it's the assholes they are attached to that I generally dislike. (that really not true. I dislike cock too).

I do question your level of exposure and experience, BTW. There are actually damn few women that hate every man, myself included. But when speaking in generalities, as we are forced to do usually, 99.9999% of all men are pigs who hold no interest for me nor do I chose to be near them. Same goes for bi and straight chick that do and want to "try me on".

I did not use the term "revolting, man hating lesbians" anywhere in my post nor was it ever implied. Neither did I make a single generalization. I referenced a few of my lesbians friends who feel this way. It is one thing to have a sexual preference quite another to hate.

If you really feel that 99.9999% of men are pigs which is fairly sweeping and harsh I would suggest you are the one lacking exposure and experience because I know a lot of really good men. I would suggest you seek psychiatric help immediately. With the personality traits I have seen you exhibit on the boards I really can't imagine anybody wishing to subject themselves to your company by "trying you on" unless they are equally disturbed. Please seek help.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I did not use the term "revolting, man hating lesbians" anywhere in my post nor was it ever implied. Neither did I make a single generalization. I referenced a few of my lesbians friends who feel this way. It is one thing to have a sexual preference quite another to hate.

If you really feel that 99.9999% of men are pigs which is fairly sweeping and harsh I would suggest you are the one lacking exposure and experience because I know a lot of really good men. I would suggest you seek psychiatric help immediately. With the personality traits I have seen you exhibit on the boards I really can't imagine anybody wishing to subject themselves to your company by "trying you on" unless they are equally disturbed. Please seek help.

Pfffft! You're bi, honey. You wouldn't ever get the chance, so get over your big, bad self, K?

BTW, I usually don't give much credence to psychiatric advice from people who haven't finished college yet. (or is it still high school????)

 

[SubmissiveBrat]

Pfffft! You're bi, honey. You wouldn't ever get the chance, so get over your big, bad self, K?

BTW, I usually don't give much credence to psychiatric advice from people who haven't finished college yet. (or is it still high school????)

Really do not need to be a specialist to recognize a person needing help. I have a GF so the "chance" is not needed. Plus you're old.

 

[Safe_Bet]

Plus you're old.

It's called being out of puberty, honey. Don't worry, your acne will clear up when you get there someday.

 

[girlsmiley]

I never understood how certain lesbians I know feel revolted by men. I think to feel a revulsion to anybody due to their sex or orientation kind of odd. These same reactions are not unlike the straight people who are haters. But that is just my opinion.

I identify more with woman but I still love the feeling of a hard masculine body attached to a big cock.

I did not use the term "revolting, man hating lesbians" anywhere in my post nor was it ever implied. Neither did I make a single generalization. I referenced a few of my lesbians friends who feel this way

Oh rubbish. It's CLEAR AS DAY to me.

There are lesbians who are revolted by men, and obviously you acknowledged "some of them" in your post. You say they're odd.
I suppose you might not understand women who feel that way, but to turn around and say Safe_Bet needs help?

Frikken n00b.

BTW, "Plus you're old" ? You are kidding, aren't you?
SB isn't old, so you're either shallow or they've run out of decent comebacks where you are.
Are you silly or summat?

 

[SubmissiveBrat]

Oh rubbish. It's CLEAR AS DAY to me.

There are lesbians who are revolted by men, and obviously you acknowledged "some of them" in your post. You say they're odd.
I suppose you might not understand women who feel that way, but to turn around and say Safe_Bet needs help?

Frikken n00b.

BTW, "Plus you're old" ? You are kidding, aren't you?
SB isn't old, so you're either shallow or they've run out of decent comebacks where you are.
Are you silly or summat?

Follow the exchange dear. She threw the age insult first. Matter of fact she threw the first insults. I will not apologize for throwing it back.

Her need for counseling is not necessarily for her men issues as it is anger management which by her posts it appears she needs.

I maybe a noob but at least I can read which is more than I can say for Safe Bet and now you.

Cheers

 

[girlsmiley]

Follow the exchange dear. She threw the age insult first. Matter of fact she threw the first insults. I will not apologize for throwing it back.

Her need for counseling is not necessarily for her men issues as it is anger management which by her posts it appears she needs.

I maybe a noob but at least I can read which is more than I can say for Safe Bet and now you.

Cheers

You're going to have to try a lot harder than that, chick.
I can read fine. Perhaps you were just a lil cross-eyed and didn't realise what you posted.

It's all good. Cheer up mate.

 

[Spacefender]

What is your definition of "bisexual"?

Me.

As teenager I actually thought I was gay cause I was all about the boys. Well, mostly. Even though there were girls I liked it never occurred to me that I was bi-sexual. Back then, in the world I grew up in if you weren't straight then you were gay. No exceptions. It took me into my early 20s to figure out that I was actually bi-sexual and not gay.

I've heard about things like bisexual erasure but I've never experienced it first hand. Perhaps because I don't consider myself part of the GLBT "community" and never got involved in it. If this thread is an accurate example of what happens in the GLBT "community" I made the right choice.

Anyway, my definition of bi-sexual is simple: if you find yourself attracted to both sexes then you are bi-sexual. Perhaps you are attracted to both sexes equally, or perhaps you prefer one over the other in some degree. If you are bi-sexual, leaning straight or bi-sexual, leaning gay, well, you're still bi-sexual.

 

[I_LIKE_PEAS]

Follow the exchange dear. She threw the age insult first. Matter of fact she threw the first insults. I will not apologize for throwing it back.

Her need for counseling is not necessarily for her men issues as it is anger management which by her posts it appears she needs.

I maybe a noob but at least I can read which is more than I can say for Safe Bet and now you.

Cheers

Yup, you are a NOOB and young. I heard that attack many times. Two of the lowest forms of defense tactics. They think post counts make them smarter. You will notice also that many here try to read between the lines instead of taking what you say at face value. When they read between the lines they inject their own prejudices.

I completely understood what you said. I feel the same. On my part I have no experience with lesbians. But I have known gay guys who say that they hate women and find pussy revolting and the very sight of a pussy makes them gag. I find those sentiments odd too. Having sexual preference is understandable. The other feelings stated are pretty extreme and I can't help but think they are a bit off their rocker to have those feelings. But as they say, To each their own.

 

[I_LIKE_PEAS]

Me.

As teenager I actually thought I was gay cause I was all about the boys. Well, mostly. Even though there were girls I liked it never occurred to me that I was bi-sexual. Back then, in the world I grew up in if you weren't straight then you were gay. No exceptions. It took me into my early 20s to figure out that I was actually bi-sexual and not gay.

I've heard about things like bisexual erasure but I've never experienced it first hand. Perhaps because I don't consider myself part of the GLBT "community" and never got involved in it. If this thread is an accurate example of what happens in the GLBT "community" I made the right choice.

Anyway, my definition of bi-sexual is simple: if you find yourself attracted to both sexes then you are bi-sexual. Perhaps you are attracted to both sexes equally, or perhaps you prefer one over the other in some degree. If you are bi-sexual, leaning straight or bi-sexual, leaning gay, well, you're still bi-sexual.

Many straights guys today think the same way. If you suck a cock you gotta be gay.

 

[CandiCame]

Me.

As teenager I actually thought I was gay cause I was all about the boys. Well, mostly. Even though there were girls I liked it never occurred to me that I was bi-sexual. Back then, in the world I grew up in if you weren't straight then you were gay. No exceptions. It took me into my early 20s to figure out that I was actually bi-sexual and not gay.

I've heard about things like bisexual erasure but I've never experienced it first hand. Perhaps because I don't consider myself part of the GLBT "community" and never got involved in it. If this thread is an accurate example of what happens in the GLBT "community" I made the right choice.

Anyway, my definition of bi-sexual is simple: if you find yourself attracted to both sexes then you are bi-sexual. Perhaps you are attracted to both sexes equally, or perhaps you prefer one over the other in some degree. If you are bi-sexual, leaning straight or bi-sexual, leaning gay, well, you're still bi-sexual.

It's not- it is a good example of the internet.

 

[Spacefender]

I completely understood what you said. I feel the same. On my part I have no experience with lesbians. But I have known gay guys who say that they hate women and find pussy revolting and the very sight of a pussy makes them gag. I find those sentiments odd too. Having sexual preference is understandable. The other feelings stated are pretty extreme and I can't help but think they are a bit off their rocker to have those feelings. But as they say, To each their own.

I don't have much direct meat space experience with lesbians either. But I've met and known a number of gay guys and generally they have close female friends. I just haven't run into too much female hatred among gay guys I've known. Jealousy on occasion, yes. But very little outright hatred. But that's just me.

Yeah, I think that-

But when speaking in generalities, as we are forced to do usually, 99.9999% of all men are pigs who hold no interest for me nor do I chose to be near them.

-is pretty extreme. I'm guessing this is not how most lesbians think but this is far from the first time that I've seen this sort of talk from lesbians on the internet.

Yeah, the LGBT "community" is just one big happy warm fuzzy family full of rainbows, candy canes, gumdrops and pixie dust.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I don't have much direct meat space experience with lesbians either.
-is pretty extreme. I'm guessing this is not how most lesbians think but this is far from the first time that I've seen this sort of talk from lesbians on the internet.

First of all you say that you have very limited experience then you turn around and tell me my beliefs are "pretty extreme"? Based on WHAT pray tell?

Just so you know, as a lesbian means I DON'T have any interest in men. I don't like to be around most of them because most of them are straight or bi and either think it's their god given right to fuck me or the look down on me because of my orientation. The rest are mostly gay guys who are either self absorbed to the point of lunacy or are pissy assholes with whom I don't chose to associate.

That said, it's not universal. I have a couple of straight male friends. The thing is THEY are the exceptions to the rule and readily acknowlege that fact.

 

[Spacefender]

First of all you say that you have very limited experience then you turn around and tell me my beliefs are "pretty extreme"? Based on WHAT pray tell?

99.9999% of all men are pigs

Seems pretty self-explanatory. If you can't figure it out I don't know what to tell you.

 

[CandiCame]

I don't have much direct meat space experience with lesbians either. But I've met and known a number of gay guys and generally they have close female friends. I just haven't run into too much female hatred among gay guys I've known. Jealousy on occasion, yes. But very little outright hatred. But that's just me.

Yeah, I think that-



-is pretty extreme. I'm guessing this is not how most lesbians think but this is far from the first time that I've seen this sort of talk from lesbians on the internet.

Yeah, the LGBT "community" is just one big happy warm fuzzy family full of rainbows, candy canes, gumdrops and pixie dust.

ANGEL dust

It's weird, but all the lesbians I know in RL are really nice to me- with the possible exception of one chick who's an ass to everyone; but I think that's her personality, not her orientation. On-line, most of the chicks I know are really nice to me to, but originally, most people think I'm a chick because of my name. Seems like the only people who really "hate men" like you're talking about really think that we all want to fuck them- it's the sexual harassment type of deal, where people misinterpret friendliness for sexual advances and then you're stuck in this- holy shit I really don't want to have sex with this person, this is really awkward, what do I do now phase that makes the workplace (or in this case, internet) just a pain to be in. Thankfully, I can usually just pull the, "Yeah, I'm gay," thing, but some people are just incapable of interpreting friendliness as friendliness; they assume if your parts match up, you're trying to fuck, and they're aggressive about it.

I think it might be a little easier to just go through life NOT assuming everyone's trying to fuck you... but that also might be a good way to get raped, so I'm not sure. I've honestly got nothing, just thought it was worth noting that some people are far more sexual then others and interpret everything through sexuality, others have a different view, and it's easy to see how they would conflict. And if your friendliness is naturally kind of flirty, it's even worse- *sigh* such is the way of the world.