Why are men never honest???

New Experiences...

Well, I DID come here for some new experiences... being asked if I were Dr. Phil certainly qualifies as one! Not one I was looking for... but a new experience nevertheless...

Anyway, I take issue with the characterization that a guy who doesn't lie is a spineless 'nice guy' who just lets people walk all over them. Telling the truth takes a WHOLE LOT more spine that lying most of the time. I just don't feel the need to lie to get my way and I think most people deserve more respect than that. But I am most certainly no one's doormat.
 
who cares, quit being so dependant on people...fulfilling fantasys is all a significant other is good for
 
Re: New Experiences...

bikenjeep said:
Telling the truth takes a WHOLE LOT more spine that lying most of the time.

As a recovering doormat, I would like to quote sister Alanis in this most opportune moment:

I'll be subservient and spineless
I'll lick your boots as empty shells
I'll be opinion less and silent
I'll be the prettiest appendage to ever lose herself

Sorry, I sing that around the house alot when Ben's dick lies to me!
 
We're not all dishonest, in the interest of human nature, lies just happen sometimes and other times are premeditated (being the most dangerous) but the truth lies within the beholder I suppose. Chin up, all things can be fixed, and some things are always broken, but the truth always seems to come through in the end.
 
short_circutz said:
For a guy to be brutally honest, 100% all the time, he would get called an arrogant self centered asshole.

Holy shit, you people rule. I thought I was alone on some of these ideas. People accuse me of being cocky, the ones that don't know me... and I am sometimes. I mean, really, is it THAT wrong to think you kick ass? What's with all this puritan self-denial crap? Once I start being bluntly honest to a friend and giving them real advice, they stop coming to me with their problem, either because I pissed them off or because they actually had advice they could follow. I still want sex though...
Hehehehe, I think I found a good vent thread :rolleyes: I'll try to keep it to a dull roar.
 
Re: Re: New Experiences...

hotncmom said:
As a recovering doormat, I would like to quote sister Alanis in this most opportune moment:

I'll be subservient and spineless
I'll lick your boots as empty shells
I'll be opinion less and silent
I'll be the prettiest appendage to ever lose herself

Sorry, I sing that around the house alot when Ben's dick lies to me!

I turned off Alanis when she repeatedly butchered the word 'ironic'.
 
floataway said:
fulfilling fantasys is all a significant other is good for

"fantasies"

And I guess that's why ur here cuz ur significant other is doing such a good job fulfilling those "fantasys" of urs.

:D
 
Hey mom... lie to me... its my fantasy.

I'm a poet... and I didn't...

Stop it, I mean it...

Anyone want a peanut???
 
Tap into Alanis. Study her. That will empower u to know how the other camp is thinking.

THEN watch ur new girl get all turned on when u tell her,
"Yes, I am ashamed to be of this gender. Men lie. They suck. I can't stand us either. Get the knife. I'm cutting it off. I am so sorry you were lied to."
 
bikenjeep said:
Hey mom... lie to me... its my fantasy.

I'm a poet... and I didn't...

Stop it, I mean it...

Anyone want a peanut???

OMG Ur cock is soooo huge.
Yes, I came...twice.
 
Originally posted by Melanie_24
Can anyone tell me that? After a certain amount of time it always comes out that they have been lying for the last couple of weeks, months or even longer... Or am I wrong guys? :). My friend just dumped me and had a new girl for some time. That's the reason for this topic.

grtz,

Melanie

I'm sorry, there are a lot of guys who definitely do lie. Some of them psychologically abuse, I have a friend who's boyfriend almost killed her on the first date and abused her psychologically for the rest of the time.

I also have a friend who basically her boyfriend went out with her, and ended up making her do his hw for 2 years, then cheated on her and lied.

Yeah a lot of guys do lie. I lie, I lie about little things like how much sleep I get, or when I ate. I don't think there is an honest guy out there, just some guys are better with that they lie about and what they don't lie about. I'm sorry you had such a bad experience, just know you're not alone.
 
hotncmom said:
Tap into Alanis. Study her. That will empower u to know how the other camp is thinking.

THEN watch ur new girl get all turned on when u tell her,
"Yes, I am ashamed to be of this gender. Men lie. They suck. I can't stand us either. Get the knife. I'm cutting it off. I am so sorry you were lied to."

I could hang with ya until you got to the knife... baby, that's not even funny...

Someboby take Ms Bobbet back to her cell pleeeeeeeease!
 
hotncmom said:
OMG Ur cock is soooo huge.
Yes, I came...twice.

...and your butt looks perfect in those jeans... especially with your big boobs!!! :p
 
bikenjeep said:
I could hang with ya until you got to the knife... baby, that's not even funny...

Someboby take Ms Bobbet back to her cell pleeeeeeeease!


You boys are so sensitive.
You're just mad cuz I lied about cumming.
 
OMG... I just threw up a little in my mouth...

That picture is quite horrific!!!
 
bikenjeep said:
...and your butt looks perfect in those jeans... especially with your big boobs!!! :p

LOL Nice!
I just looked at my ass ur right!
 
Originally posted by bigman131
Sorry to hear you got dumped but that is a pretty bold statement. Untrue, sexist and above all a rationalization for your lost relationship..Its like saying all women are cock teasers or frigid or whatever, based on why guys are here...Go out, get layed, get over it.

although what you have stated may be true, THAT is not the time to point that out. Don't say that to someone who's just been dumped, that's just harsh.
 
Donsehan said:
although what you have stated may be true, THAT is not the time to point that out. Don't say that to someone who's just been dumped, that's just harsh.

Very thoughtful. I was looking for his reply. Down with bigman!
 
Originally posted by hotncmom
I challenge you in that statement.

Here are some direct questions women ask men that they have either lied about in their lifetime:

1. Do you think so and so is pretty?
2. Do I look fat in these pants?
3. What did you think of my family?
4. Honey, are you happy in our relationship?
5. Were you checking out the babysitter, my sister, the neighbor's daughter?
6. Have you ever fantasized about someone else while we were having sex?
7. Do you wish my boobs were bigger?
8. Who's meatloaf is better mine or your mothers?
9. What sexual fantasies would you like to try with me?
10. Are you married?

One yes disqualifies you as never having lied to a women.

Believe me if men (and women) had the balls to answer those questions honestly with their mates, my inbox wouldn't be so filled with married or committed partners who aren't having their "needs" met!!!

Never is a strong statement babe.
Licks and kisses, Mom

actually, if she does look fat, I would say "you look fat." and really all I did was complain "your boobs are huge"
 
Re: Honesty

Originally posted by CTMan1960
I tend to be too honest sometimes... brutally... lol

If you don't wanna know what I think... don't ask me! :)

with ya there, my honesty has gotten me in lots of trouble before too
 
Originally posted by hotncmom
Very thoughtful. I was looking for his reply. Down with bigman!

most of my friends are girls/women/females so I've heard the "I hate men" speech a lot.
 
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