Why are men never honest???

[hotncmom]

most of my friends are girls/women/females so I've heard the "I hate men" speech a lot.

And alot of my friends are gay and I have to hear the "I hate men" speech too!!!

OK I really have to go or I'll be late.

 

[Guest]

lies lies lies

Dam all this lying has made me horny, .... ok, so thats a lie..



For a guy to be brutally honest, 100% all the time, he would get called an arrogant self centered asshole.

The above is such a true statement.... I know from experenice

But that doesnt mean I have to lie/change, I just end those relationships with those who can't handle the truth, god being honest can be lonely..

 

[Looking4Fun46]

I challenge you in that statement.

Here are some direct questions women ask men that they have either lied about in their lifetime:

1. Do you think so and so is pretty?
2. Do I look fat in these pants?
3. What did you think of my family?
4. Honey, are you happy in our relationship?
5. Were you checking out the babysitter, my sister, the neighbor's daughter?
6. Have you ever fantasized about someone else while we were having sex?
7. Do you wish my boobs were bigger?
8. Who's meatloaf is better mine or your mothers?
9. What sexual fantasies would you like to try with me?
10. Are you married?

One yes disqualifies you as never having lied to a women.

Believe me if men (and women) had the balls to answer those questions honestly with their mates, my inbox wouldn't be so filled with married or committed partners who aren't having their "needs" met!!!

Never is a strong statement babe.
Licks and kisses, Mom

Of course a man might lie to questions 1, 2, 5, 6, 7 and 8 because it might be the only way to keep the peace. Those are fighting questions and I have no idea why women seem to want to ask them. Lets see... be honest and get in a big fight or tell her what she wants to hear and not get in a big fight. Not a hard decision.

Questions 3 and 4 are good questions that should be honestly answered if you trying to build a long term relationship. Never ever had a woman ask me question 9 but I would sure want to give an honest answer to that one. The answer to question 10 is probably the one where the most lies are told but then how could you date somebody and not know he/she is married? Seems like a pretty hard thing to hide for any length of time.

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by hotncmom
And alot of my friends are gay and I have to hear the "I hate men" speech too!!!

OK I really have to go or I'll be late.

all right bye! Lol, haven't heard that one yet, although I do have gay friends, lol.

 

[Donsehan]

Originally posted by Looking4Fun46
Of course a man might lie to questions 1, 2, 5, 6, 7 and 8 because it might be the only way to keep the peace. Those are fighting questions and I have no idea why women seem to want to ask them. Lets see... be honest and get in a big fight or tell her what she wants to hear and not get in a big fight. Not a hard decision.

Questions 3 and 4 are good questions that should be honestly answered if you trying to build a long term relationship. Never ever had a woman ask me question 9 but I would sure want to give an honest answer to that one. The answer to question 10 is probably the one where the most lies are told but then how could you date somebody and not know he/she is married? Seems like a pretty hard thing to hide for any length of time.

well looking, there are a number of reasons, one of the most common reasons women ask about things like some of the questions that you said are "fighting questions" is that some women feel insecure. I remember getting asked "why do you love me?" all the time. I didn't have an answer for her, I didn't lie, but I did tell her how much I loved her which was true.

 

[hotncmom]

My #1 of course, is guys pretending they aren't married or attached when they ask me out.

I know someone asked how could I not tell if someone is married, well, that's easy. Usually when we first meet is at a neutral place. I don't allow men to come to my house until I feel comfortable. So who knows where they come from. However, when I notice that they only give me a cell phone number, aren't available at nights or on the weekend...RED FLAG!!! But that doesn't present itself at first.

Well then what are some of those whopper lies that you have heard or gotten away with?

For me, my bf didn't realize that I caught him cheating on me BIG time and then lied about his whereabouts. While I was ticked off and was ready to rent a bill board with his face on it that read "Two timer." I decided to get over it and have some fun of my own. Or as I have heard it said here, I got over it and got laid!!!

I did lie a few yrs ago or omitted the fact to someone on a date that I was going through a divorce at the time. I hated it. Besides scaring him off with my insatiable urges, I wasn't honest with him and he is a nice guy.

So see, women lie too. But at least I got down his pants before he found out!!!

 

[TheDagda]

Can anyone tell me that? After a certain amount of time it always comes out that they have been lying for the last couple of weeks, months or even longer... Or am I wrong guys? . My friend just dumped me and had a new girl for some time. That's the reason for this topic.

grtz,

Melanie

Sorry to hear you got dumped, Melanie, but guys aren't "never" honest. Sure, there are dishonest guys out there, but plenty of guys are very honest [OK, except perhaps about the "Does this make me look fat?" thing. On the other hand, I made the mistake of telling a girlfriend once that I didn't like the bright lemon-yellow nail color she'd put on, and you'd think I'd told her she reminded me of Ron Jeremy or something, so honesty is not always survivable for guys *grin*]. I have a friend who broke up with his GF because he couldn't deal with her lying.

Not that she was lying to him; no. She was lying to her parents [they're both quite young] about where she was going when she spent the night at his place. He's that committed to honesty. It'll be interesting to see how he handles that issue when he gets out of law school...

The Dagda [working to become more honest every day]

 

[TheDagda]

For me, my bf didn't realize that I caught him cheating on me BIG time and then lied about his whereabouts.

Did you hear about the guy who worked in the WTC and was having an affair? On 9/11, he was with his lover in a hotel room, not watching TV. When he called his wife, she said "Where are you?" He said "I'm in my office, of course..."

BUSTED!

 

[TheDagda]

1. Do you think so and so is pretty?

If she's asking, then she probably has reason to, and the answer is probably "yes."

2. Do I look fat in these pants?

If my wife asks that [which she doesn't], I'm going to answer "no" because I can't imagine pants that would make her look fat. If they somehow *did* manage to add visual weight to her, I'd probably say something like "Not 'fat,' maybe, but they do emphasize your {whatever}. You might not want to get them."

3. What did you think of my family?

I'd answer honestly, and have done so.

4. Honey, are you happy in our relationship?

"Yes." If there was a problem with the relationship, I'd tell her. Hiding problems is a good way to destroy a relationship, esp. a marriage.

5. Were you checking out the babysitter, my sister, the neighbor's daughter?

"Yes."

6. Have you ever fantasized about someone else while we were having sex?

"Well, I've fantasized about Sarah/Amelia/Mary/Kassie/whoever *joining* us, yes." Wife's bi...

7. Do you wish my boobs were bigger?

"Not at all." I'm a small-breasts kinda guy anyhow.

8. Who's meatloaf is better mine or your mothers?

"Neither--I love both." And it would be true.

9. What sexual fantasies would you like to try with me?

I'd answer honestly. Fortunately, there aren't that many.

10. Are you married?

"Yup." I've never had to lie about this one, nor will I.

 

[solomon797]

Can anyone tell me that? After a certain amount of time it always comes out that they have been lying for the last couple of weeks, months or even longer... Or am I wrong guys? . My friend just dumped me and had a new girl for some time. That's the reason for this topic.

grtz,

Melanie

I am always honest baby,I may git a lot of BULLSHIT from others but thats there problem,Know what you mean though sweetie,your honest the other person is expected to be,they are not and it blows evrything all to hell.

 

[solomon797]

They Hate Men

And alot of my friends are gay and I have to hear the "I hate men" speech too!!!

OK I really have to go or I'll be late.

They Hate men so damn much tell them to git lost (1)I dont need hate (2)I dont need them (3)I dont need to hear it..bye bye see you wouldn"t want to be you.

 

[solomon797]

Re: lies lies lies

Dam all this lying has made me horny, .... ok, so thats a lie..



For a guy to be brutally honest, 100% all the time, he would get called an arrogant self centered asshole.

The above is such a true statement.... I know from experenice

But that doesnt mean I have to lie/change, I just end those relationships with those who can't handle the truth, god being honest can be lonely..

To many people give a shit about what others think,i personally do not give a flying fuck,they dont pay my bills or comfort me when i am lonely so fuck what they think.I care more about how i feel about myself.Thats important engough to me that i do not need to lie.

 

[omahaman2]

just wanted to say

SORRY!

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[solomon797]

Hey Guy

just wanted to say

SORRY!

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Just wanted to say thats a Damn nice signature you have for their for you mail.I salute you for it.

 

[uprocessor01]

lying???

lying is one of the first things we learn as children it comes just after learning to speak. And both sexes do it.

I look at lying a little differently, to me its more of a skill, and art, or a magic trick (making someone believe in something that isnt true or real). Basically the art of desception

anyway, i look at the motive of lying or the reason Y ppl lie.
the liar may :
1 not want to hurt your feelings, and lying is a quick fix
2 to get something that they want knowing that if they told the truth it wouldnt give them what they want
3 to continue certain behaviors (affairs)
4 ppl have their own agendas regardless of your own, they would rather lie than negotiate

concerning the above reasons, dont be fooled, the liar is only out for themselves, and they dont want u to get mad at them.

ultimately im against lying, because in the long run its doesnt give u what u wanted, and it makes your present situation into a bad experience all around for u and other ppl, trust issues quickly arise

i find it easier to tell the truth, but if i tell the truth then i would want to be rewarded. for example suppose i have a gf and we were out somewhere, and a young fine looking chick with big boobs, long legs, an ass u could bounce a quarter off of walks infront of me. My gf would see me watch in animalistic lust, then ask me if i would "do"that woman. to be honest id say yes i would, did u see that ass....anyway the point is i didnt do the other woman and i was honest about it and now im horny so my gf will most certainly get a very nice ride later that night. since i was honest my reward was not the other woman but my gf

 

[uprocessor01]

also

if u dont want to know the truth then dont ask for it.

and the question "does this make me look fat" has some problems in it. 1ST the woman may really be fat wether she has on clothes or not, in this case she may mean does it make me look fatter. But, if she is fat, then she is fat - accept it and move on. it doesnt mean that she is unattractive and unsexy just because she isnt a size 2. Ive seen women who are chunky and even fat who look attractive anyway. 2ND some outfits do make ppl look bigger than what they are, in this case i will tell my gf yes that outfit makes u look bigger than what u are and id help her pick out something that doesnt

and with the previous point about rewarding honesty, think about it. positive reinforcement goes a long way. so if u ask a question and i tell u the truth no matter how painful it may be, then dont get mad, bent and twisted. that sends me the wrong message. U are mad at me for being honest with u. which wont make me more inclined to lie to u

I know there are instances where honesty may be painful and u necessarily may not get rewarded but at least dont get punished for being honest. they should respect your honesty and not hold that against u, since they only asked for your honesty

 

[69forever]

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[solomon797]

So true

Don't tell me it's guys.....firsthand knowlege and the pain that comes with it tells me it's BOTH genders.

Women just lie and don't really know it if they are in a bad marriage or relationship, and looking. Nesters, they crave the finanancial security, while testing the waters. Not happy and afraid to move on. I hold no ill will. Love her yet and always.

There are plenty of men who are players, liers and cheats. I've been on both sides of the equation over the years. Lesson learned and not to be EVER repeated.

Any relationship not based on open, honest communication is doomed to failure.

*getting down off my soap box*

So very true liars are no more than walking corspes..your better off with a Fuck magazine.

 

[hausfrau]

I agree that people tell the truth so long as they are rewarded for it.

No one has addressed the "omitter." The person, man or woman, who doesn't necessarily lie, but who doesn't tell the full truth either. Same motivation, though -- fear of reprisal.

People who are honest and who REALLY value honesty in others and not just pay it lip service tend, in my opinion, to be very secure in who they are and their moral compass. Lemme give an example. If you value honesty, and you ask the question "does this outfit make me look fat?" your response to a response of "yes, you should buy something else, it isn't flattering" is one of gratitute, because you've just been saved from looking less than smashing. Of course, your motivation in asking must also be pure.

 

[Donsehan]

Re: lying???

Originally posted by uprocessor01
lying is one of the first things we learn as children it comes just after learning to speak. And both sexes do it.

I look at lying a little differently, to me its more of a skill, and art, or a magic trick (making someone believe in something that isnt true or real). Basically the art of desception

really? I didn't really learn to lie until I was 14, I'm still bad at it, you can see it in my eyes.

 

[Looking4Fun46]

Re: lying???

lying is one of the first things we learn as children it comes just after learning to speak. And both sexes do it.

I look at lying a little differently, to me its more of a skill, and art, or a magic trick (making someone believe in something that isnt true or real). Basically the art of desception

anyway, i look at the motive of lying or the reason Y ppl lie.
the liar may :
1 not want to hurt your feelings, and lying is a quick fix
2 to get something that they want knowing that if they told the truth it wouldnt give them what they want
3 to continue certain behaviors (affairs)
4 ppl have their own agendas regardless of your own, they would rather lie than negotiate

concerning the above reasons, dont be fooled, the liar is only out for themselves, and they dont want u to get mad at them.

ultimately im against lying, because in the long run its doesnt give u what u wanted, and it makes your present situation into a bad experience all around for u and other ppl, trust issues quickly arise

i find it easier to tell the truth, but if i tell the truth then i would want to be rewarded. for example suppose i have a gf and we were out somewhere, and a young fine looking chick with big boobs, long legs, an ass u could bounce a quarter off of walks infront of me. My gf would see me watch in animalistic lust, then ask me if i would "do"that woman. to be honest id say yes i would, did u see that ass....anyway the point is i didnt do the other woman and i was honest about it and now im horny so my gf will most certainly get a very nice ride later that night. since i was honest my reward was not the other woman but my gf

You must have a very unique girlfriend because if you told most women that you wanted to do another woman, you would not be getting any that night. Honesty for that question would not get you anything but a fight.

 

[uprocessor01]

re : You must have a very unique girlfriend because if you told most women that you wanted to do another woman, you would not be getting any that night. Honesty for that question would not get you anything but a fight. from Looking4Fun46


suppose the shoe was on the other foot, and a good looking young stud walked across her path. if she is female, hetero, and has a pulse then she will at least thinka bout doing it with the young stud. Its a natural thing.

There is a big difference between thinking about it, thinking about it and planning to make it happen, and actually doing it

also i wouldnt ask that, cause it would be obvious

 

[solomon797]

Re: They Hate Men

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[dr.bong]

I guess I have always found a relationship that is truthfull, to be muych happier and certainly more sexual than one that is not

 

[rheltman1]

Mom's Quiz....

Yes, I have lied in my life....and you haven't?

Keep this in mind(and I am no bible thumper, by any stretch of the imagination)-Only one man in this world was perfect, and they killed him for it.....

So maybe you could call lying selfpreservation...lol

Just kidding. I have never lied to intentionally wrong someone, nor have I ever tried to mislead someone by lying to them, but there are times when people, women included, must lie a little just to keep the peace. We must deal with it, cause hey....we are humans.

But, I believe also that a lie can hurt worse than the truth in some instances.