Why do you hate Obama?

[The_Trouvere]

and retard, what did Clinton do for this?

hello?

anything?

name just one thing?

SeanR will say that by increasing taxes the economy boomed...what fucked up ideas do you have?

Get a job you useless high school dropout.

 

[The_Trouvere]

the jew thing again

I showed you already using your test results that your arguement was bunk


Isreal socred lower then Germany

by your own standard Nazi's are superior to Jews

and the same jews you mentioned were also more susceptible to a host of diseases

being more vulnerable makes you inferior, not superior.. just saying

Arabs in Israel lower the averages. It is the Ashkenazim who are the most superior race in existence. Ashkenazi Jews in Israel are in the minority.

Jews have won one out of five Nobel Prizes.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Evolution takes longer than that as a whole. However. If you're correct then on average Arabs should be highly intelligent. How well do they score, how many of your vaunted Nobel Peace Prizes do they have?

Negro genes have entered the Arab genome through the African slave trade. Arabs castrated their male slaves. They had children by their female slaves.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Usually the consensus of the experts is more likely to be right than wrong. Unfortunately, the consensus of anthropologists is coerced, so it cannot be trusted.

I've seen similar bullshit arguments made about global warming.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Two anthropologists at the University of Utah, Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending, wrote The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution.

Gregory Cochrane:

Gregory M. Cochran (born 1953) is a racist, sexist, homophobe and pseudo-scientist who is prominent in the so-called Human Bio-Diversity (HBD) movement.

Cochran claims that the phenomenon of homosexuality is "caused" by a brain-infection and/or other pathological damege to the brain. He seems to positively revel in the reaction his "theory" will cause in the LGBT community and its progressive allies:

Depths of Madness

I’ve said it before, but it’s probably time to say it again. The most likely explanation for human homosexuality is that it is caused by some pathogen. It’s too common to be mutational pressure (and we don’t see syndromic versions, as we would in that case), it’s not new, identical twins are usually discordant (~75% of the time), and it’s hell on reproductive fitness. There is no way it is adaptive: the helpful gay uncle notion, group selection, compensating advantage in females, etc: these range from impossible to bloody unlikely. It doesn’t exist in most hunter-gatherers: you have to explain what it is you’re even talking about when you ask them. Presumably with diagrams.

As for Freudian explanations, exotic-becomes-erotic, etc: just reading the social-science literature on the subject is enough to make you wonder if the human brain really does exist to cool the blood. [...]

P.S. The title comes from the coolest response to this hypothesis I’ve ever received, from some inspired fool in New Zealand: "And descending into the most disturbing depths of madness and the most depraved abuse of science yet conceived, we will even be told that homosexuality is caused by a virus or a bacterium."

Cochran's racist, sexist, homophobic mentality condensed into one post:

Against Biology

It seems that the talking classes in this country think that human biology mostly doesn’t matter. The sexes have exactly equal mean abilities and interests – more than that, even the standard deviation must be the same in men and women. Presumably the third moments as well.

Race doesn’t exist, so there can hardly be cognitive or personality differences between races. There are no average differences in mental capabilities between classes. IQ is not heritable, so eugenics cannot work. Intelligent women should eschew reproduction – that’s something poor people can do just as well, and with the usual 10,000 hours of practice, their kids can be anything they want to be – cowboy, fireman, or Indian chief. Lest I forget, low test scores in black children are caused by laconic parents, which is why the few children of those career women should be raised by Guatemalan maids.

Homosexuality is the only genetically-determined personality trait – as well as being a valid lifestyle choice, and a floor wax. So slash fiction should be the law of the land.

 

[akatrex]

A Boy for a Man's Job!

Due to the LOW Information Voter, look what you GOT!

http://www.catholic.org/files/images/media/2014/07/28/14065694671961_700.jpg

 

[NeverEndingMe]

Get a job you useless high school dropout.

hey retard, then why don't you call yourself out and demand we end welfare as a career!

why don't we take away those obama iphones?
why don't we take away government housing?

becoming a man, stand by your words! stop being a sissy and take the panties off

 

[The_Trouvere]

I've seen similar bullshit arguments made about global warming.

I have never read of anyone losing his job because he denies global warming. I have read of people losing their jobs because they argue that IQ differences between individuals and average differences matter.

 

[Sean Renaud]

A Boy for a Man's Job!

Due to the LOW Information Voter, look what you GOT!

http://www.catholic.org/files/images/media/2014/07/28/14065694671961_700.jpg

Nope. We got that cus of Bush. And even if it was "because" of Obama explain to me why I'm supposed to care what happens in Iraq?

I have never read of anyone losing his job because he denies global warming. I have read of people losing their jobs because they argue that IQ differences between individuals and average differences matter.

Apparently they don't publish anything that goes against Global Warming because if they do they'll lose their jobs.

hey retard, then why don't you call yourself out and demand we end welfare as a career!

why don't we take away those obama iphones?
why don't we take away government housing?

becoming a man, stand by your words! stop being a sissy and take the panties off

You mean the Reagan Bush Phones?

Take away government housing and quadruple crime overnight? Brilliant!

 

[The_Trouvere]

Gregory M. Cochran (born 1953) is a racist, sexist, homophobe and pseudo-scientist who is prominent in the so-called Human Bio-Diversity (HBD) movement.

Calling anyone "a racist, sexist, homophobe and pseudo-scientist" is a very crude ad hominem attack, and unworthy of a scientific discussion. It would be like me calling you "a nigger loving cultural Marxist who hates America."

It is an example of how irrational some people become when the relationship between genes, race, IQ, and behavior is broached.

It is also disillusioning. I previously had enough respect for you to believe you would not do something like that.

 

[The_Trouvere]

Cochran claims that the phenomenon of homosexuality is "caused" by a brain-infection and/or other pathological damege to the brain.

What is so terrible about this belief? He is not arguing that homosexuality is a choice chosen by evil people. He is not even arguing that homosexuals are more likely to be child abusers, although I suspect that they are. 85 percent of pedophile priests have been guilty of abusing boys. I do not believe that 85 percent of Roman Catholic priests are homosexuals.

I personally believe that homosexuality is a genetic inclination that correlates with superior intelligence, and which is transmitted the same way sickle cell anemia is. Perhaps I am mistaken and Cochran is correct.

 

[Sean Renaud]

What is so terrible about this belief? He is not arguing that homosexuality is a choice chosen by evil people. He is not even arguing that homosexuals are more likely to be child abusers, although I suspect that they are. 85 percent of pedophile priests have been guilty of abusing boys. I do not believe that 85 percent of Roman Catholic priests are homosexuals.

I personally believe that homosexuality is a genetic inclination that correlates with superior intelligence, and which is transmitted the same way sickle cell anemia is. Perhaps I am mistaken and Cochran is correct.

That it's stupid beyond belief. If homosexuality were caused by a pathogen we would have found it long ago.

Though not as crazy as your belief.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What is so terrible about this belief? He is not arguing that homosexuality is a choice chosen by evil people. He is not even arguing that homosexuals are more likely to be child abusers, although I suspect that they are. 85 percent of pedophile priests have been guilty of abusing boys. I do not believe that 85 percent of Roman Catholic priests are homosexuals.

I personally believe that homosexuality is a genetic inclination that correlates with superior intelligence, and which is transmitted the same way sickle cell anemia is. Perhaps I am mistaken and Cochran is correct.

You're the most confusing mix of commie...and willfully ignorant racist white trash I've ever come into contact with......

 

[The_Trouvere]

Questions

Cochran's racist, sexist, homophobic mentality condensed into one post:


It seems that the talking classes in this country think that human biology mostly doesn’t matter. The sexes have exactly equal mean abilities and interests – more than that, even the standard deviation must be the same in men and women. Presumably the third moments as well.

Race doesn’t exist, so there can hardly be cognitive or personality differences between races. There are no average differences in mental capabilities between classes. IQ is not heritable, so eugenics cannot work. Intelligent women should eschew reproduction – that’s something poor people can do just as well, and with the usual 10,000 hours of practice, their kids can be anything they want to be – cowboy, fireman, or Indian chief. Lest I forget, low test scores in black children are caused by laconic parents, which is why the few children of those career women should be raised by Guatemalan maids.

Homosexuality is the only genetically-determined personality trait – as well as being a valid lifestyle choice, and a floor wax. So slash fiction should be the law of the land.

There you go again with adjectives like "racist, sexist, homophobic."

Again I ask, what is so terrible about Cochran's post?

There are obvious differences between male and female psychology. Women tend to be less competitive than men. They tend to be less interested in casual sex and sexual variety, and more interested in monogamy. This does not mean that no women are less competitive, and that no women enjoy casual sex and multiple partners. Nevertheless, average differences exist. These differences exist throughout the world and they always have. They have been noted in cultures that could not have possibly influenced each other.

Former Harvard President Lawrence H. Summers was truthful when he said women tend to have less scientific and mathematical aptitude than men. The fact that he had to resign as Harvard President for saying something so obviously true is evidence of my earlier assertion that the consensus on biological determination is coerced.

In Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies Jared Diamond claimed that New Guinea tribesmen are just as intelligent as Europeans. Franz Boas made the same assertion about Inuits living in Greenland. Where is the evidence of that? Does any sensible person really believe that?

Also, where is the scientific evidence of innate equality between whites and blacks? Where are the black majority countries with high standards of living, low crime rates, and well functioning governments? Where in the United States are there black majority cities without high crime rates? Where are there public schools in the United States where the majority of the student body is black, and which have high test scores? Where in the United States is there a black neighborhood anyone would want to regularly walk through at twelve midnight?

Where?

 

[The_Trouvere]

More Questions.

You're the most confusing mix of commie...and willfully ignorant racist white trash I've ever come into contact with......

How am I ignorant? What don't I know? Why do you have to use a racially derogatory term like "racist white trash?" Why are you incapable of arguing rationally?

 

[The_Trouvere]

That it's stupid beyond belief. If homosexuality were caused by a pathogen we would have found it long ago.

Though not as crazy as your belief.

Homosexuality is rather obviously not a choice. Any explanation merits respectful consideration.

What is so crazy about my belief?

 

[The_Trouvere]

"Short of walking into a conversation, sandblasting the brick and installing track lighting, there is no surer way to announce one is from the 1980s than to mount an assault on 'political correctness,' the contemporary phrase for which is 'not being a jackass.'"

—Tabatha Southey

Political correctness means saying things in public about innate racial equality that are obviously untrue, and which few people genuinely believe.

The dogmas of political correctness are so preposterous that they can only be maintained by coercion.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Homosexuality is rather obviously not a choice. Any explanation merits respectful consideration.

What is so crazy about my belief?

You're belief is insane because I've never seen any evidence that homosexuality is tied in any solid way to intelligence one way or another. Maybe it's social acceptance but female bis aren't exactly rare in the world so maybe Hawking, DeGrasse and Musk aren't sucking cock because it would discredit them but shouldn't we see more brilliant women by your logic?

To the former no not any explanation does not merit respectful consideration. If it were a pathogen we would have found it long ago. Sickle Cell which I note you mentioned earlier is not caused by a pathogen but rather exists to evade a pathogen. While that too would have been found again if you found out homosexuals were highly resistant to 'X' I'd be willing to entertain your idea until I got bored.

It could easily just be a fairly frequent crossed wire. Just because his idea and your idea are both retarded doesn't mean I know the right answer. Just like my being able to look at a random situation and see that it's not functioning as it should doesn't mean I know how to fix it. As nice as it would be if everybody who recognized a problem had a solution it doesn't work that.

Honestly at the end of the day I don't really care why gays are gay. Maybe they just look at every guy and think the same way when some asks what I'd do if I were stranded on a desert island with Captain Jack Sparrow.

 

[BotanyBoy]

How am I ignorant?

"I personally believe that homosexuality is a genetic inclination that correlates with superior intelligence, and which is transmitted the same way sickle cell anemia is. "

LMFAO!!!

What don't I know?

Quite a bit.....especially when it comes to biology and genetics. It seems you have this bizzaro neocon Christian Nazi philosophy on it...

Why do you have to use a racially derogatory term like "racist white trash?" Why are you incapable of arguing rationally?

Because it's accurate and I'm not arguing I'm making a statement.

If you want a rational argument start citing empirical, scientific evidence for you various claims of racial/genetic superiority/inferiority and I'll gladly reply in a rational manner.

Till then your racist claims and lies about the various races of the human species will be met with much the same....that is to say as long as you keep acting like a racist trailer park prince to JBJ's crown as king I'll keep treating you as such K cupcake?

Good now carry on with your racist bullshit...

 

[The_Trouvere]

"I personally believe that homosexuality is a genetic inclination that correlates with superior intelligence, and which is transmitted the same way sickle cell anemia is. "

LMFAO!!!

Quite a bit.....especially when it comes to biology and genetics it seems.

Because it's accurate and I'm not arguing I'm making a statement.

If you want a rational argument start citing empirical, scientific evidence for you various claims of racial/genetic superiority/inferiority and I'll gladly reply in a rational manner.

Till then your racist claims and lies about the various races of the human species will be met with much the same....that is to say as long as you keep acting like a racist trailer park prince to JBJ's crown as king I'll keep treating you as such K cupcake?

Good now carry on with your racist bullshit...

Your hysteria gives evidence of the paucity of evidence in favor of what you want to believe.

Your rudeness gives evidence of your low class vulgarity.

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In Canada, a University of Toronto Social Work professor, John C. Spencer, published an article in the Canadian Journal of Corrections (1961). He looked at 132 sexual offenders in the Toronto Forensic Clinic. These incarcerated individuals were categorized into three groups: exhibitionists, pedophiles and homosexuals. Spencer concluded that while exhibitionists and pedophiles had essentially normal I.Q.’s, the average intelligence of the homosexual offender was significantly higher than average (I.Q. of 114 vs. the population average of 100). Reading between the lines, he may have been an early homosexual rights advocate as he mused openly about criminal law being a vehicle for moral condemnation (see article image below).

Other researchers confirmed the I.Q. findings. Renée Liddicoat, published A Study of Non-Institutionalized Homosexuals, also in 1961, and found that South African homosexual men and women had significantly higher verbal I.Q. scores than that of her heterosexual control group.

A 1949 study of 100 neurotic homosexual and 100 neurotic heterosexual soldiers similarly found evidence of higher intelligence scores and educational achievement amongst the gay soldiers (Winterstein-Lambert, E. Bulletin de la Faculté de Médicine de Instanbul). In fact, this paper’s conclusion was that the gay community did not need psychological treatment, rather job placement support in order to deal with neurotic symptoms.
http://calgaryqueerhistory.ca/2013/07/18/gay-men-are-smarter-than-straight-men-so-says-history/

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Sickle cell anemia is caused by an allele that also gives partial immunity from malaria. If you have one of the alleles you get the partial immunity. If you have both of the alleles you get the partial immunity and you get sickle cell anemia.

Homosexuals tend to be more intelligent than heterosexuals. I believe that homosexuality is caused by one or several alleles that are dominant for higher intelligence, and recessive for homosexuality.

Because during human evolution intelligence has been an evolutionary advantage those with one allele for homosexuality tended to be more prolific than those with no alleles for homosexuality. Thus, the allele for homosexuality has been transmitted down through the generations the way allele for sickle cell anemia.

 

[The_Trouvere]

You're belief is insane because I've never seen any evidence that homosexuality is tied in any solid way to intelligence one way or another.

Read my comment #245.

I have read other reports that provide evidence that homosexuals tend to be more intelligent than heterosexuals. These reports confirm what I have noticed in my life. I have never known a homosexual who was not above average in intelligence.

I myself am a heterosexual, so I have no ulterior motive in suggesting that homosexuals tend to be more intelligent. Nevertheless, intelligence runs in my family. Two of my cousins were homosexuals who died of AIDS.

They were also very bright.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Your hysteria gives evidence of the paucity of evidence in favor of what you want to believe.

There is no hysteria......making things up is bad mmkay? I don't want to believe anything...I want you to produce empirical evidence that can be repeated and proven time and time again via the scientific method...

Psst...you can't because there is no gay gene, we have an elementary understanding of genetics at best, and don't know what the fuck determines a persons sexual orientation/identity.

Your rudeness gives evidence of your low class vulgarity.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/ausador/IronyMeterSplode.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OKxUtohskRc/T6mQIls-WfI/AAAAAAAAAZE/wPKJZvc_DT0/s1600/Hypocrisy+Gauge.jpg

Thus, the allele for homosexuality has been transmitted down through the generations the way allele for sickle cell anemia.

No it's not.....and the "allele for homosexuality" is a hotly contested theory with no evidence to back it up. It's a hypothesis, no one has anything conclusive, you're completely full of shit.

AND

You're going to have to do bettter than an obscure 54+ year old study done on a whopping 132 prisoners by a fuckin' social worker peer reviewed by no one but the loonz because it's a fuckin' joke.

ID the gay gene or just admit you were wrong, and don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you go on about rants of genetic superiority, gay alleles and other fantasy land bullshit.

 

[The_Trouvere]

There is no hysteria......making things up is bad mmkay? I don't want to believe anything...I want you to produce empirical evidence that can be repeated and proven time and time again via the scientific method...

Psst...you can't because there is no gay gene, we have an elementary understanding of genetics at best, and don't know what the fuck determines a persons sexual orientation/identity.

http://i603.photobucket.com/albums/tt112/ausador/IronyMeterSplode.jpghttp://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OKxUtohskRc/T6mQIls-WfI/AAAAAAAAAZE/wPKJZvc_DT0/s1600/Hypocrisy+Gauge.jpg

No it's not.....and the "allele for homosexuality" is a hotly contested theory with no evidence to back it up. It's a hypothesis, no one has anything conclusive, you're completely full of shit.

AND

You're going to have to do bettter than an obscure 54+ year old study done on a whopping 132 prisoners by a fuckin' social worker peer reviewed by no one but the loonz because it's a fuckin' joke.

ID the gay gene or just admit you were wrong, and don't know what the fuck you are talking about when you go on about rants of genetic superiority, gay alleles and other fantasy land bullshit.

I am making hypotheses on the basis of what is known. More is being learned about genetics. The allele for sickle cell anemia has been discovered. The way it works is understood.

If something behaves genetically, it is reasonable to assume that it is caused genetically. Identical twins are more likely to share sexual orientation than other siblings. Siblings are more likely to share sexual orientation than non siblings.

It is difficult to trace homosexuality down through the generations because in the past, and to an extent even now homosexuals tended to conceal their orientation.

It is easy to trace intelligence down through the generations, and to measure average IQ differences between the races.

As more is learned about the human genome the barriers of political correctness will crumble. It will again be safe to point out that some races are intrinsically superior to others in qualities congenial to civilization. Until the Second World War and the Nazi movement biological racial inequality was commonly understood to exist, and openly discussed.

After the revelations of the Holocaust fewer people wanted to acknowledge that innate racial differences existed. Nevertheless, the scientific evidence continues to accumulate, despite efforts to conceal it. No Child Left Behind left most black children behind because they lacked the native intelligence to keep up.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

yes, the obama and its regime ... is worse than the Nazi's

I am making hypotheses on the basis of what is known. More is being learned about genetics. The allele for sickle cell anemia has been discovered. The way it works is understood.

If something behaves genetically, it is reasonable to assume that it is caused genetically. Identical twins are more likely to share sexual orientation than other siblings. Siblings are more likely to share sexual orientation than non siblings.

It is difficult to trace homosexuality down through the generations because in the past, and to an extent even now homosexuals tended to conceal their orientation.

It is easy to trace intelligence down through the generations, and to measure average IQ differences between the races.

As more is learned about the human genome the barriers of political correctness will crumble. It will again be safe to point out that some races are intrinsically superior to others in qualities congenial to civilization. Until the Second World War and the Nazi movement biological racial inequality was commonly understood to exist, and openly discussed.

After the revelations of the Holocaust fewer people wanted to acknowledge that innate racial differences existed. Nevertheless, the scientific evidence continues to accumulate, despite efforts to conceal it. No Child Left Behind left most black children behind because they lacked the native intelligence to keep up.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I am making hypotheses on the basis of what is known.

No you're just making up shit.

More is being learned about genetics. The allele for sickle cell anemia has been discovered. The way it works is understood.

Yes there is, and none of it has a remote clue as to what actually determines a persons sexual/gender identity.

If something behaves genetically, it is reasonable to assume that it is caused genetically. Identical twins are more likely to share sexual orientation than other siblings. Siblings are more likely to share sexual orientation than non siblings.

LOL I'm assuming you got this from more studies done in the 50's....nothing here or in science even comes close to suggesting that homosexuality is a genetic disease/malfunction.

I'm sorry, I know it's hard to admit but what your saying is an unverifiable load of made up crap.

It is difficult to trace homosexuality down through the generations because in the past, and to an extent even now homosexuals tended to conceal their orientation.

Orrrrrr it could be because homosexuals aren't the most prolific reproducers??

Or maybe being gay isn't a genetic disease.......and your just making bigoted shit up.

It is easy to trace intelligence down through the generations, and to measure average IQ differences between the races.

REALLY? IQ testing is at best in it's infancy and kinda subjective...but do tell which race has the highest IQ...meow don't forget to show/cite your research that doesn't exist except for on the KKK's home page or some study done by a car wash manager (prob a neoNazi) on 15 people back in 1961..... GOOD LUCK!

As more is learned about the human genome the barriers of political correctness will crumble.

That may be so but it hasn't yet, and it won't be a matter of PC, it will be a matter of fact.

It will again be safe to point out that some races are intrinsically superior to others in qualities congenial to civilization. Until the Second World War and the Nazi movement biological racial inequality was commonly understood to exist, and openly discussed.

It was commonly assumed......once again you can't seem to separate assumptions/made up bullshit from facts.

After the revelations of the Holocaust fewer people wanted to acknowledge that innate racial differences existed.

LOL you must not have paid much attention to all the racially motivated/based shit that's gone down in the past 70 years and is still going down now.

Nevertheless, the scientific evidence continues to accumulate, despite efforts to conceal it.

No...it doesn't, no one is concealing it, you just can't cite anything because it's a load of shit.

No Child Left Behind left most black children behind because they lacked the native intelligence to keep up.

Proof?

Yea I didn't think so....more wild bullshit claims with nothing to back them up.