Women...ugh

[graceanne]

I don't mind yakking on the phone but then I'm on the phone so rarely, and I'm so often thousands of miles from friends that I consider any opportunity to talk with them a gift. Even now, most of my correspondence is done via email, so I really love phone chats.

I love to visit on the phone. I do not, however, like to be talked AT. Like my sister does. Where they don't care what you say, you're just someone for them to talk AT.

Good luck with that.

Self Hijack:

When I did my advanced diver course, one of the tasks involved reading a compass underwater. You have do do a few exercises - swimming out and back on a set heading, swimming in a square using the compass, etc. Anyway, on the day I was doing my test, there was another dude doing the test with me - an ex-Navy guy. Long story short, I passed with flying colours. He flunked.

Organized, good planner, can read maps on the fly & can read compass on the swim. Out-navigates Navy guys!

Ha! So there!

/self hijack

I'm pretty good for traveling with, too. I'm also organized, detail oriented, decisive, and can read maps. I not inflexible, and if something happens (like a flat tire) that I can't control I don't flip out because it's interfering with the schedule. Or if something better comes up, for that matter. I cannot, however, read a compass. I'm going to admit something, and PLEASE PEOPLE DO NOT EXPLAIN THIS TO ME YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST TO TRY, but why do I care which way north is?

 

[rida]

, but why do I care which way north is?

So that you do not end up with the Penguins (and they frozen herrings butt plugs) !

You crack me up girlie!

No, seriously, I CAN explain you shoes ...

 

[rida]

-hijack-

Thank you.

I wonder about the Japanese culture regarding this. Is this 出る杭は打たれる。 part still true?

出る杭は打たれる = the nail that sticks out get hammered

It is still holds true. But as with many Japanese customs and traditions, the way they are implemented and applied is not as straightforward as it might be in a Westerns interpretation.

Any specific you were wondering about?

-/hijack-

 

[graceanne]

So that you do not end up with the Penguins (and they frozen herrings butt plugs) !

Oooh! I get it!

 

[chy_girl]

*snip*
I'm going to admit something, and PLEASE PEOPLE DO NOT EXPLAIN THIS TO ME YOU ARE NOT THE FIRST TO TRY, but why do I care which way north is?

So you know which way to go if we ever decide to meet for lunch?

 

[MisterSir]

If it weren't for the shoe thing, the clothes thing, and the crying at movies thing I'd wonder if I had any girlie in me at all.

Hey now, crying at movies is a sign of an excellent film-maker's triumph over his craft, not any kind of femininity (says the man who bawled over Gran Torino, trying and failing now to reclaim some masculinity)

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Hey now, crying at movies is a sign of an excellent film-maker's triumph over his craft, not any kind of femininity (says the man who bawled over Gran Torino, trying and failing now to reclaim some masculinity)

Nothing wrong with that at all.

I like the justaposition of sensitive guy in touch with his feelings and the alpha male in touch with his inner bastard.

 

[MisterSir]

Nothing wrong with that at all.

I like the justaposition of sensitive guy in touch with his feelings and the bastard in touch with his inner alpha male.

Fixed for me.

 

[Lizzie_Borden]

Fixed for me.

Ha!...

 

[sb2009]

1. I want to make sure everyone is happy so I don't exert my will. This never works, by the way. I will never make everyone happy, but I'll make myself miserable trying!!!!!


2. I have no idea why I change clothes and shoes several times. I don't even have that many clothes. Now with camera cell phones, it's worse. I send pics to get opinions. Then I end up getting yelled at (and spanked last time!) and told that I will be dragged from the house naked if I don't hurry my ass up and get dressed....

3. I like other people to make plans for me. So sue me LOL

 

[Keroin]

1. I want to make sure everyone is happy so I don't exert my will. This never works, by the way. I will never make everyone happy, but I'll make myself miserable trying!!!!!

As long as you're getting something out of it, that's all that matters.

2. I have no idea why I change clothes and shoes several times. I don't even have that many clothes. Now with camera cell phones, it's worse. I send pics to get opinions. Then I end up getting yelled at (and spanked last time!) and told that I will be dragged from the house naked if I don't hurry my ass up and get dressed....

You are not the only female on the planet who does this...trust me My best friend could spend a week planning an outfit for one night only to then change her mind at the last minute and then spend an hour trying something on, taking it off, repeat, repeat, repeat.

Why does this not happen with me?

a) I move, frequently, and need to keep the amount of stuff I own to a minimum. Thus, I do not have many clothes to choose from.

b) I have a relatively good idea of what constitutes casual, semi-formal and formal attire. I know enough not to wear sweat pants to the opera or a ballgown to fight night at the pub and that's good enough for me. Outside of that, I dress in whatever makes me comfortable and if that means I fall outside of the fashion boundaries or other people's expectations, well, fuck it. Life's too short to worry about that.

c) My husband would divorce me if I did that. Truly, he would.

3. I like other people to make plans for me. So sue me LOL

No, I'm Canadian. We don't sue. It's not polite.



Hm, something else I don't get is when a woman will ask another woman - in regards to an event they are both attending - "What are you wearing?" Why does this matter?

 

[YourCaptor]

Good luck with that.

Self Hijack:

When I did my advanced diver course, one of the tasks involved reading a compass underwater. You have do do a few exercises - swimming out and back on a set heading, swimming in a square using the compass, etc. Anyway, on the day I was doing my test, there was another dude doing the test with me - an ex-Navy guy. Long story short, I passed with flying colours. He flunked.

Organized, good planner, can read maps on the fly & can read compass on the swim. Out-navigates Navy guys!

Ha! So there!

/self hijack

Navy guys, a bunch of pussys. At least I bet he knows how to bake cookies. He's more of a women then you shall ever be.

 

[Primalex]

He's more of a women then you shall ever be.

And this is good why?

 

[YourCaptor]

And this is good why?

It's not, its bad, especially for K. Sadly she shall never reach that highest of womanly aspirations, having a man eat all her cookies and not beat her afterward.

Poor K

 

[the captians wench]

Hey now, crying at movies is a sign of an excellent film-maker's triumph over his craft, not any kind of femininity (says the man who bawled over Gran Torino, trying and failing now to reclaim some masculinity)

Okay, if it's a really well put together film, then tears are okay, but I cry at the stupidest shit anymore. As a kid I didn't cry when Bambi's mom got shot but I swear I'll cry at the end of Pride and Prejudice every time.

I don't know the movie you refur to. But if I'm crying over it I promise to push my head into your chest so I can't see you are too.

 

[sb2009]

I know I ask what a friend is wearing so I can guage if my outfit is going to be ok or if I need to up it or down it LOL and then we have an excuse to text back and forth a bit, then call, then text more...before we even get to the event. And then at the event, there is the gushing of "you look GREAT!" "OMG you look so amazing!!" I think for me it's like the pre-event...all the planning.

I don't really get out much ROFL

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

I know I ask what a friend is wearing so I can guage if my outfit is going to be ok or if I need to up it or down it LOL and then we have an excuse to text back and forth a bit, then call, then text more...before we even get to the event. And then at the event, there is the gushing of "you look GREAT!" "OMG you look so amazing!!" I think for me it's like the pre-event...all the planning.

I don't really get out much ROFL

How this plays out with guys:

"Dude. What's up?"
"Not much. You're still up for the thing tonight, right?"
"Yeah. Eight thirty?"
"Cool. See you there."

Expanded version:

"Dude. What's up?"
"Not much. You're still up for the thing tonight, right?"
"Yeah. Eight thirty?"
"Cool. See you there."
"Oh, wait. Is this a tie thing?"
"Probably, yeah."
"Okay. Later."

 

[catalina_francisco]

I think it is more about personalities than gender. I am not much on group things, but before I moved here, I had good female friends over the years and they all were fine with last minute plans. Was not a problem to phone one of them, say I was just heading out in the car for a drive, did they want to come and usually the answer was yes and they could be ready anywhere between 5 to 30 minutes which sometimes included putting together a quick lunch or snacks for the trip. Was the same if one of us wanted to go to a movie...quick call, throw on decent clothing and out the door in a flash. I do miss that.

Catalina

 

[MisterSir]

I don't know the movie you refur to. But if I'm crying over it I promise to push my head into your chest so I can't see you are too.

Can you not push my head into your chest instead? Forget not being able to see, that would dry up the tears nicely.

Not that I'm a perv or anything. (Spoiler: he is)

 

[the captians wench]

Can you not push my head into your chest instead? Forget not being able to see, that would dry up the tears nicely.

Not that I'm a perv or anything. (Spoiler: he is)

hmmm...okay, I guess that's an acceptable arrangement.

Just don't get lost in there okay?

 

[graceanne]

So you know which way to go if we ever decide to meet for lunch?

Yes. Toward my dads.

Hm, something else I don't get is when a woman will ask another woman - in regards to an event they are both attending - "What are you wearing?" Why does this matter?

To make sure you won't be too dressy or under dressed.

 

[intothewoods]

I think it is more about personalities than gender. I am not much on group things, but before I moved here, I had good female friends over the years and they all were fine with last minute plans. Was not a problem to phone one of them, say I was just heading out in the car for a drive, did they want to come and usually the answer was yes and they could be ready anywhere between 5 to 30 minutes which sometimes included putting together a quick lunch or snacks for the trip. Was the same if one of us wanted to go to a movie...quick call, throw on decent clothing and out the door in a flash. I do miss that.

Catalina

My friends and I are the same way. We don't have that much free time, so generally we exhange emails - can you meet for drinks/coffee? Cool, what time and where? Done and done.

 

[Keroin]

To make sure you won't be too dressy or under dressed.

Yes, but why does it matter? I mean if you're a bit over dressed or a bit under dressed who's really going to care? What matters is that you're comfortable and happy, right?

My friends and I are the same way. We don't have that much free time, so generally we exhange emails - can you meet for drinks/coffee? Cool, what time and where? Done and done.

Drinks/coffee/movie/dinner never a problem. Easy. It's the weekend away and such that always brings out the prolonged negotiations. It's weird.

 

[00Syd]

This thread is too gendered for me

 

[graceanne]

Yes, but why does it matter? I mean if you're a bit over dressed or a bit under dressed who's really going to care? What matters is that you're comfortable and happy, right?

But they wouldn't be comfortable if they felt they stand out like a sore thumb. I personally don't care if i stand out, but most women do, and when they feel that they stand out it makes them VERY VERY uncomfortable.

It's also a good way of finding out if something is gonna be dressy or casual. A friend invites you to a party. You don't want to ask if it's dressy because then they might think you want it to be dressy so you ask, later, 'what are you wearing?'. If they say jeans and tshirt you know it's casual if they say skirt and a blouse you know it's dressier. Plus then you know what to expect, and what's expected of you. Should you offer to bring food or not? Should you plan on helping with the clean up? Etc.