Work (or lack of work) Woes

[Diosax]

I have a question

What are some non-salary perks you'd negotiate for a new job. Again, that aren't salary related

Some obvious examples are:
Vacation days
Flex time
Benefits

But what are some other things? Asking for a friend

 

[jeff_is_smiling]

I have a question

What are some non-salary perks you'd negotiate for a new job. Again, that aren't salary related

Some obvious examples are:
Vacation days
Flex time
Benefits

But what are some other things? Asking for a friend

Depending on the needs of the job, there are a number of areas you could consider.

1. Your work hours. Do you want to work 5 days a week, or only 4 days? 8 hour days versus 10-hour days. I spent about 25 years working 4-10's. If that matters to you at all, consider which day off you might negotiate. I used to take Monday's off, but you could take Fridays off instead. You could also possibly negotiate the start time. If you typically stay up later, consider asking for a later start time.

2. How large a company is it? If it is larger and there's an issue with parking, consider asking for a designated parking space.

3. If you are working in an office, perhaps negotiate the furniture - like a stand up desk or other ergo type perks.

Just a few ideas.

Good luck!

 

[Lord Pmann]

I have a question

What are some non-salary perks you'd negotiate for a new job. Again, that aren't salary related

Some obvious examples are:
Vacation days
Flex time
Benefits

But what are some other things? Asking for a friend

A sign-on bonus. I realize that’s money, but it’s not salary. If they have aspirations of higher education, tuition reimbursement. Work from home possibilities. Company car.

These are all position and experience dependent. Also, I’d be careful negotiating too much, unless the experience puts you in such a position.

Edit to add: I demand every place I work have a liberal wanking policy. It’s non-negotiable. You take me and my wanking, or nothing at all. (^^^^ used to say mom-negotiable, but that’s creepy AF)

 

[cheekygirl75]

I have a question

What are some non-salary perks you'd negotiate for a new job. Again, that aren't salary related

Some obvious examples are:
Vacation days
Flex time
Benefits

But what are some other things? Asking for a friend

- Working from home & a technology equipment stipend
- Paying for a gym membership
- A yearly stipend for continuing education & being able to use work time for it (if work related)

 

[cheekygirl75]

Edit to add: I demand every place I work have a liberal wanking policy. It’s mom-negotiable. You take me and my wanking, or nothing at all.

Your mom negotiates your wanking policy?

 

[Lord Pmann]

Your mom negotiates your wanking policy?

Well. If there ever was a Freudian slip…

Well-played phone.

 

[cheekygirl75]

I really wish I could laugh react to some of these jobs.... You want all that at $12/hr? McDonald's pays more than that now!

 

[cheekygirl75]

Question for anyone who sees this: I just got an email about an interview (yay!). It’s digital so I can do it when I want. It’s Friday afternoon. Do I do it today or will it be all right to wait until Monday?

 

[Hyacinthus151]

Wait till Monday so you can do your homework and prepare. If they can’t wait that long then you don’t want to work for them.

 

[AngelWithAShotgun]

Question for anyone who sees this: I just got an email about an interview (yay!). It’s digital so I can do it when I want. It’s Friday afternoon. Do I do it today or will it be all right to wait until Monday?

Friday interviews are great if the office only works Mon-Friday, cause they tend to be a lot more relaxed and looking forward to the weekend. Which is a bonus for you as they're already in a good mood. On the other hand, you'll require a massive charm offense so they'll remember you next week with the residual joy of your interview. That isn't easy to do if you're not mentally prepped or natural charmer. I'm not, so I know I need a few days to get in the right mindset for this. If you're like me, then Monday might be better for you.

Is your background prepped? I'm assuming you'll be home for the interview, people pay attention to what's going on behind you too.
If you can't find a quiet spot with a decent background, then may I suggest you set your cam preferences to cover the background with something more corporate looking.

 

[Diosax]

Depending on the needs of the job, there are a number of areas you could consider.

1. Your work hours. Do you want to work 5 days a week, or only 4 days? 8 hour days versus 10-hour days. I spent about 25 years working 4-10's. If that matters to you at all, consider which day off you might negotiate. I used to take Monday's off, but you could take Fridays off instead. You could also possibly negotiate the start time. If you typically stay up later, consider asking for a later start time.

2. How large a company is it? If it is larger and there's an issue with parking, consider asking for a designated parking space.

3. If you are working in an office, perhaps negotiate the furniture - like a stand up desk or other ergo type perks.

Just a few ideas.

Good luck!

Those are good ideas!

- Working from home & a technology equipment stipend
- Paying for a gym membership
- A yearly stipend for continuing education & being able to use work time for it (if work related)

Ahh an old job i had offered discounts for equinox and i was too dumb to take advantage of it.

Question for anyone who sees this: I just got an email about an interview (yay!). It’s digital so I can do it when I want. It’s Friday afternoon. Do I do it today or will it be all right to wait until Monday?

Ultimately is your decision go with what you feel. But these are some things I'd consider

- did they give you an option in advance. Even if you weren't working rn people have commitment and a job can't expect you to drop everything you're doing (unless its a position that requires some sort of coverage due to emergencies but even then)
- this also falls under boundaries and I'd want to set boundaries right away.

If is on zoom then just do a background.
Someone said do it today to show interest. I'd say do it Monday to show you have boundaries but that you're interested.

We need to also look at jobs differently and shift some of the focus from ourselves onto the job.

Having to explain gaps is bullshit. Memorizing company website is bs when sometimes they dont even read your resume before the interview.

 

[jeff_is_smiling]

Question for anyone who sees this: I just got an email about an interview (yay!). It’s digital so I can do it when I want. It’s Friday afternoon. Do I do it today or will it be all right to wait until Monday?

For what it's worth...I suggest reading this, then thinking about how you might incorporate the philosophy into some interview answers...

https://www.vawizard.org/wiz-pdf/STAR_Method_Interviews.pdf

 

[cheekygirl75]

Wait till Monday so you can do your homework and prepare. If they can’t wait that long then you don’t want to work for them.

Thank you! That is a great point.

Friday interviews are great if the office only works Mon-Friday, cause they tend to be a lot more relaxed and looking forward to the weekend. Which is a bonus for you as they're already in a good mood. On the other hand, you'll require a massive charm offense so they'll remember you next week with the residual joy of your interview. That isn't easy to do if you're not mentally prepped or natural charmer. I'm not, so I know I need a few days to get in the right mindset for this. If you're like me, then Monday might be better for you.

Is your background prepped? I'm assuming you'll be home for the interview, people pay attention to what's going on behind you too.
If you can't find a quiet spot with a decent background, then may I suggest you set your cam preferences to cover the background with something more corporate looking.

It’s a recorded video interview, so I won’t actually be talking to a person, just a camera

But I’m like you, too, definitely not a natural charmer, especially in interviews! Monday it is Thank you!

Those are good ideas!

Ahh an old job i had offered discounts for equinox and i was too dumb to take advantage of it.

Ultimately is your decision go with what you feel. But these are some things I'd consider

- did they give you an option in advance. Even if you weren't working rn people have commitment and a job can't expect you to drop everything you're doing (unless its a position that requires some sort of coverage due to emergencies but even then)
- this also falls under boundaries and I'd want to set boundaries right away.

If is on zoom then just do a background.
Someone said do it today to show interest. I'd say do it Monday to show you have boundaries but that you're interested.

We need to also look at jobs differently and shift some of the focus from ourselves onto the job.

Having to explain gaps is bullshit. Memorizing company website is bs when sometimes they dont even read your resume before the interview.

Also really good points! I never think about that stuff going into interviews but I’m trying to remember. Thank you!

For what it's worth...I suggest reading this, then thinking about how you might incorporate the philosophy into some interview answers...

https://www.vawizard.org/wiz-pdf/STAR_Method_Interviews.pdf

Ah, yes, the STAR method! I used to be a career coach so I know it well… haven’t been doing it much because it’s easier to tell others how to do it than do it myself Thanks for the reminder and kick in the butt to not be lazy!

 

[cheekygirl75]

So did the interview on Mon & just got the no thanks email. At least they didn’t leave me hanging.

 

[Diosax]

So did the interview on Mon & just got the no thanks email. At least they didn’t leave me hanging.

I'm glad they promptly sent the email!
I'm sorry! You'll find something!

 

[cheekygirl75]

I'm glad they promptly sent the email!
I'm sorry! You'll find something!

Thanks! I know I will, eventually! But now you all still have to listen to me complaining about cover letters

 

[Diosax]

Thanks! I know I will, eventually! But now you all still have to listen to me complaining about cover letters

I'm gonna start looking for a job soon so same!!

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

So did the interview on Mon & just got the no thanks email. At least they didn’t leave me hanging.

It's so much worse when you never hear anything back. So rude!!!

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I've been in my current position about 5 years now. There are issues that have been decades in the making that are coming up to bite us now. Today we had an extremely stressful council meeting where some of those bad decisions from decades ago, they're now trying to pin on me. 3 hours in a meeting of people yelling at me. Just having one of those days where I want to scream into the abyss.

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

I'm doing interviews today, so writing down some quick notes for the job seekers out there:
1. You know you are going to be asked about your main strength. Don't take 5 minutes to think about it. Be prepared.
2. Don't talk over the interviewer. Talk about a bad impression!
3. Don't make your answers too short or too long... be Goldilocks.
4. Don't put the wrong company name in your cover letter. Yes, someone did this.

 

[AmberLGreen]

I've been in my current position about 5 years now. There are issues that have been decades in the making that are coming up to bite us now. Today we had an extremely stressful council meeting where some of those bad decisions from decades ago, they're now trying to pin on me. 3 hours in a meeting of people yelling at me. Just having one of those days where I want to scream into the abyss.

Nobody has the right to shout at you in a work situation. If that happens again, calmly tell them that you will discuss the issues when they stop shouting. If they continue to shout walk out/hang up (depending on the type of meeting). Reschedule the meeting and if they shout, do the same again. Eventually they will stop shouting.

If that doesn’t work, give me a call and I will fly over and give them the look!

Sending you hugs

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

@Diosax... one time I was arguing with him about him wanting me to become management and I figured out his hours for the week. Divided it by his salary and he was barely making more than I was at Target.

 

[Diosax]

@Diosax... one time I was arguing with him about him wanting me to become management and I figured out his hours for the week. Divided it by his salary and he was barely making more than I was at Target.

No joke! That's why I'm so cautious about it now!

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

Granted, I had been at Target for about 10 years (worked it as a 2nd job for the health insurance, which they no longer offered to part time employees, but I was grandfathered in), but still.

 

[LaisDeMarieDeFrance]

No joke! That's why I'm so cautious about it now!

He would get up and go in at 5am, work almost 12 hours and come home and half the time get called in the middle of the night with a question. Ridiculous! I will never, ever work salaried. They literally almost worked him to death.