How did you start?

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

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[Sir_Winston54]

CUTIEMOUSE

I told you I dont quarrel. This is the offense youre referring to. A simple statement.

You requested my opinion and I gave it to you. I stand by it.

I offered to discuss with you how I came to my conclusion. You declined the offer.

I think you want an excuse to quarrel, maybe because you have some doubts about what you are.

Ya know, Bubba, maybe you should sit back quietly, read a few hundred threads and a few thousand posts from the various people here before you go sticking your oar in and trying to stir up the waters. But then, perhaps you're not capable of that kind of adult self-restraint... and maybe that's why your profile shows you - by self-admission - to be an "unemployed peckerwood"... your personality is too abrasive, overly self-confident and self-involved for people to tolerate you.

ETA: Oh, yeah... I don't have a degree in psychology. But I don't need one to spot a pita at 3 posts or less.

 

[CutieMouse]

CUTIEMOUSE

I told you I dont quarrel. This is the offense youre referring to. A simple statement.

You requested my opinion and I gave it to you. I stand by it.

I offered to discuss with you how I came to my conclusion. You declined the offer.

I think you want an excuse to quarrel, maybe because you have some doubts about what you are.

Mmm... I asked you to clarify what qualities a natural dominant had, and how (in your opinion) a submissive behaved, you never answered, sidetracked into some blather about not wanting to argue, and decided to end the conversation when I contradicted your "assessment" of me. I believe you mentioned not being interested in arguments/quarreling multiple times; every time I explained I was simply having a converastion with no intent of offense or animosity.

It's interesting to me that you interprit my statements as quarreling, and presume I am less than assured as to my "place" in the D/s dynamic. One might view that as projection due to insecurity...

 

[Stegral]

First I lost my Fiance to a slave, then I lost the next fella because I wasn't into open or poly. Both enjoyed leather collars & other things so after the pain subsided I investigated the "lifestyle" & the rest is in my Talk to Stegral thread...

 

[Sir_Winston54]

First I lost my Fiance to a slave, then I lost the next fella because I wasn't into open or poly. Both enjoyed leather collars & other things so after the pain subsided I investigated the "lifestyle" & the rest is in my Talk to Stegral thread...

Boy, Stegral, you've got a lot of nerve, trying to redirect this thread back to its basis!

 

[CutieMouse]

In a nutshell (since I feel bad for hijacking so much...)

I hit 30, decided I really didn't care what people thought of me (after a lifetime of feeling like "good girls don't want ___, think ___, do ___"), and admitted submissive interests to my ex-husband and two best friends. My ex didn't know what to make of it, wasn't willing to explore, research or listen when I tried to talk to him about BDSM; my best friends bought me The New Bottoming Book for my birthday.

I found Lit around that time, did a lot of reading here, started researching online/buying books whenever I came across them, asked questions, went to a few munches, attended a weekend conference, etc.

About 3 years ago I met a gentleman who had followed my writing on the Lit forums, and we developed a Friendship. He'd been active in the lifestyle since the 70s, and we sort of worked out a mentoring/lover-but-not long distance friendship/relationship, in which I was expected to "switch", as he had a rather low opinion of submissives. (I should probably note my attempts to play the Top role were not successful... LOL)

That friendship lasted about 2½ years, and when I finally put my foot down that we needed to either actually spend time in the same room, or I'd need to look elsewhere for a Lover (but dearly wanted to remain friends); he chose to say goodbye, and hasn't spoken to me since.

This past summer I decided I was ready for an actual D/s relationship, and placed an ad in the personals section at Lit and CollarMe. J answered my CM ad, and I flew down to the Caribbean for two weeks in July. By the third or fourth day we were both rather blown away by how well we meshed. Our philosophies and styles of kink do compliment each other quite well; we both hang out and do our own thing, which (95% of the time) just happens to be what the other needs/wants - the relationship would best be defined as 24/7, with an equal emphasis on service and intimacy. When I left we were discussing my relocation sometime this fall; the complications of doing so have been a bit more than I think either of us had anticipated, but I'm sure things will work out if they're meant to.

 

[Stegral]

Boy, Stegral, you've got a lot of nerve, trying to redirect this thread back to its basis!

bite me (I enjoy it)

heeeeee & I suceeded !!!!!

 

[BiBunny]

BIBUNNY

It's bullshit because you make claims and draw conclusions about psychological tests and have no experience beyond a collection of survey courses.

Uh, I did? Where? The only thing I said is that you can't judge people by what they say. But if you're as knowledgeable about these psychological tests as you say you are, you know that they can be manipulated to get any kind of result you want.

Where I know from experience that I can run you thru the test mill and have a fair idea of whazzup with you.

So, when I talk my shit people who've done the same process as me are pretty confident I'm not talking out my ass. While you and hombug come across as talking out your butts.

I'm not entirely sure how I can be talking out of my ass, since all I did was point out that people don't always say what they mean and mean what they say, but whatever. And I have no desire to be run through (not "thru") the test mill, thank you very much.

I'll tell you what I told CUTIEPIE. I'm not invested in anyone believing me or agreeing with me. If you put me on ignore my life stays pretty much the same as it was. But until you can get me banned, you dont control the debate or the information. I offer an alternative viewpoint to newbies contemplating the lifestyle.

Her name is CutieMouse. Illiteracy is not a sought-after trait in psychologists. Furthermore, if you had actually, you know, read the terms of service, you'd know that you can't be banned from Literotica unless you're a spammer. It's a free speech board. That means that you can spout all the bullshit you want, but everybody else is free to call you on it. So, yeah, you don't control the debate or information, either.

If you are indeed a psychologist, and I sincerely doubt it, you must know that you have piss-poor people skills. I'm not even going to bother debating with you anymore, but I do suggest in your time here at Lit that you learn to read for comprehension, treat people with respect, and stop acting as if you are the be-all and end-all of all knowledge. Unless, of course, you secretly get off on having people with far superior wisdom and experience than my own regularly providing you with enough verbal rope with which to hang yourself.

That is all, folks. Carry on with your thread.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

And as BiBunny comes out to take a bow...

 

[HB1965]

*sigh* hopefully that will be it

 

[BiBunny]

And as BiBunny comes out to take a bow...

*Bows* Thank you. Thank you.

I Sir Winston.

I know I posted earlier in this thread about how I don't really know how I started. I wish I did have a definite "this is it" moment to post about, but I don't. I will say that the first time I ever met/played with His Royal Chunkiness was the first time I ever realized I had submissive tendencies as opposed to just the bottomy ones. I won't get into it too much because I hate when I get all mushy, LOL. *Sigh* What can I say? I love my dirty old fat man.

 

[Homburg]

So, when I talk my shit people who've done the same process as me are pretty confident I'm not talking out my ass. While you and hombug come across as talking out your butts.

Cutiepie and Hombug? You're not good with names, are you?

Now then, slick, tell me how I'm talking out of my ass when my primary assertion to you is that personality index testing is inherently soft and innaccurate. You were the one that posited some sort of equivalency between a repeatable, objective, and quantifiable measurement (weight) and a battery of questions that only the individual answering would be able to say whether they were answered truthfully or not.

Yes, IF someone answers truthfully and honestly (As best they can. We can fuck each other up with epistemological and ontological arguments some other time), you will get some solid, and potential useful, information. But if that same person goes down the list and picks random answers, you will get a decidedly innaccurate picture.

Tell me, good sir, as the burden of proof lies on you, how weight measurement and personality indexing are somehow equivalent insofar as accuracy and repeatability are concerned.

Admittedly, I've only taken a short-form MMPD a half-dozen times (with results all over the place because I decided to screw with the test), but I have measured the weight of a wide variety of items, under all sorts of conditions. I've no degree in weighing things, sorry, but experience has been a handy teacher. Short of adding more weight to the scale, or lifting up on the item being weighed, a given item will weigh the same on the same scale, and in the same location, each time it is measured. I can sure as hell plant my ass in one chair, take a test twice, and come up with entirely different results.

How, precisely, am I talking out of my ass? And try to use small words. I only have a degree in philosophy and we don't use em ten-dollar words in my discipline.

 

[HB1965]

Go Homburg

 

[Homburg]

Go Homburg

Don't encourage me. It'll only make me write even longer posts!

 

[Roy Kay]

I got in the line for an argument last time by mistake.

Uh, is this where the Stegral biting line forms?

Speaking of which, one of the first things I did in a BDSM context was bite. I was new to it and started scraping my lover's tits with my teeth as I was sucking them and looked up at her glistening melting eyes, and dug in harder.

 

[Etoile]

Illiteracy is not a sought-after trait in psychologists.

Neither is stupidity, which makes me wonder if he has a job.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

<Snip> ...maybe that's why your profile shows you - by self-admission - to be an "unemployed peckerwood"... your personality is too abrasive, overly self-confident and self-involved for people to tolerate you.

Illiteracy is not a sought-after trait in psychologists.

Neither is stupidity, which makes me wonder if he has a job.

Hmm... did we run him off? Was it something we said? If so, let's remember what it was, for the next guy like him.

 

[HB1965]

Hmm... did we run him off? Was it something we said? If so, let's remember what it was, for the next guy like him.

Nah he just went to another thread

 

[Etoile]

Nah he just went to another thread

Oh you're right! Here he is: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=539865

Being as much of an ass there as here. Nice!

 

[HB1965]

Oh you're right! Here he is: http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=539865

Being as much of an ass there as here. Nice!

I just suggested to someone else that he needed to be clubbed to put him out of his misery. He's obviously suffering from a huge ego problem.

 

[Etoile]

I just suggested to someone else that he needed to be clubbed to put him out of his misery. He's obviously suffering from a huge ego problem.

I'm also not sure how a 1986 Associate's degree in General Education and a 1991 Master's degree in Social Science add up to the brilliance we are seeing here.

 

[HB1965]

I'm also not sure how a 1986 Associate's degree in General Education and a 1991 Master's degree in Social Science add up to the brilliance we are seeing here.

Ok right there I can tell you that's bullshit. You don't go from and Associate's to as Master's, and he's not a psychologist. Only those with a Ph.D in Psychology can call themselves that.

 

[Homburg]

This thread is getting more and more entertaining. See, you guys are talking about chasing him off. People like this have a place and a purpose, and entertainment is just one of the many services they provide.

 

[HB1965]

This thread is getting more and more entertaining. See, you guys are talking about chasing him off. People like this have a place and a purpose, and entertainment is just one of the many services they provide.

Well since this is a free speech board then I have to agree. We can just call his ass out.

 

[BiBunny]

Ok right there I can tell you that's bullshit. You don't go from and Associate's to as Master's, and he's not a psychologist. Only those with a Ph.D in Psychology can call themselves that.

Yeah, what she said.

And the grammar debate on that thread is hilarious. Y'all think I--with my superior knowledge of grammar from my half-finished master's degree--should go over and put my two cents in?

Nah, I don't care that much.