Starting BDSM Lifestyle W/Bipolar Wife

[JMohegan]

JMOHEGHAN I work in this field and it's the term we still use as even the AAMR hasn't been able to come up with a better term

It's a bit lengthy, but I would infer from both their revised name and mission statement that a substitute phrase had been adopted.

"AAIDD promotes progressive policies, sound research, effective practices and universal human rights for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities."

Whether the change has trickled down to all those working in the field is a different question, obviously.

As far as use of the term in a public setting (such as this one), I can only speak for what passes as polite or appropriate in my corner of the world. Obviously it is your right to speak for yours.

 

[HB1965]

edit to add: The words 'In working with...' indicates a general working with all types of people, not your specific working role.
If you do indeed work in this environment, please be clear. It saves being insulting others by default

Thank you for that comment. I might also add that you should read through all the post because I did in fact explain the situation further down. BTW, the only reason that I added what I did about them being MR was because I have mentioned in three other posts on this forum that this is what I do for a living. I was trying not confuse others who had read those posts. I can only assume that you did not.

 

[HB1965]

It's a bit lengthy, but I would infer from both their revised name and mission statement that a substitute phrase had been adopted.

"AAIDD promotes progressive policies, sound research, effective practices and universal human rights for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities."

Whether the change has trickled down to all those working in the field is a different question, obviously.

As far as use of the term in a public setting (such as this one), I can only speak for what passes as polite or appropriate in my corner of the world. Obviously it is your right to speak for yours.

IF they have revised their mission statement and goals then they've done it recently as the last membership statement that I received said AAMR

 

[JMohegan]

It's interesting that you would quote the ARC of Florida since Florida has the worst system for dealing with people who have Developmental Disablilities.

I quoted them in response to JamesBJohnson's reference to the organization.

The term has become negative because for the last 50 years or more because children (and unfortunately some crazy adults) have used the term "retarded" to insult people or called them "retards".

Indeed. This is exactly my point.

 

[HB1965]

I quoted them in response to JamesBJohnson's reference to the organization.

Indeed. This is exactly my point.

Yes and my point (which you cut out) is that it's a perfectly appropriate term that has been denegrated because that has happened. I see nothing wrong with it other than the way it's been used.

 

[Marquis]

I hear people use bipolar as a pejorative all the time.

I think it's important that language offer flexibility, but the connotations of words are always changing.

Sociopaths used to be called psychopaths and now they are diagnosed with anti-social personality disorder. If someone says their cousin has anti-social personality disorder, it makes me think this opinion is more informed than if they said their cousin is a psycho, but it doesn't make me any more inclined to go on a road trip with said cousin.

I'd rather have a child that was mildly retarded than severely schizophrenic.

 

[JMohegan]

Yes and my point (which you cut out) is that it's a perfectly appropriate term that has been denegrated because that has happened. I see nothing wrong with it other than the way it's been used.

And I see something wrong (or rather, inappropiate and insensitive), with use of a term that has come to be associated with denigration and disrespect.

You have a different view on this.

Let's just call this a disagreement on style or choice of manners and agree to disagree. Fair enough?

 

[shy slave]

It's interesting that you would quote the ARC of Florida since Florida has the worst system for dealing with people who have Developmental Disablilities.

The idea of changing the term has been around for decades, and there are a lot of other terms that have floated around. In America who have not retired the term as there hasn't been one that has really sufficiently covered the gist of what the problem is been proposed to replace it. The term has become negative because for the last 50 years or more because children (and unfortunately some crazy adults) have used the term "retarded" to insult people or called them "retards". It's a shame because if the term is looked at objectively it is really the best term to describe the condition

You would find that in the UK it is not considered the best term.

It is considered insulting and degrading.

We have several active national groups, people with disabilities have made their views clear. They do not like it and do not wish it to be used.

 

[HB1965]

And I see something wrong (or rather, inappropiate and insensitive), with use of a term that has come to be associated with denigration and disrespect.

You have a different view on this.

Let's just call this a disagreement on style or choice of manners and agree to disagree. Fair enough?

Yes we are going to have to agree to disagree because I don't feel that the word has "come to mean" that in the sense that it is now the only definition of the word in use. We arguing the the semantics of the term retared which is used in science routinely to describe something that might happen to the course of processes that occur in nature.

You would find that in the UK it is not considered the best term.

It is considered insulting and degrading.

We have several active national groups, people with disabilities have made their views clear. They do not like it and do not wish it to be used.

I'm glad to hear that there are people in England the fight for the rights and the dignity of the those with this condition. I would remind you that we come from two different cultures, that while speaking the same language, have differences in the way words are used. For instance in America using the term ass in polite company is considered rude and offensive where as in your country (as based on its literature and the communication have had with some of it's citizens) it is used in the same way we use the word stupid. I will respect that you don't like the term and not use it again however I will point out that I may do the same again later with another term because of these differences.

 

[graceanne]

Well Good Afternoon to you too! After the day I've been having, you've provided some much needed cheap entertainment. I knew I could count on you!

(Gracie, please don't cut off the cookies for life.. I couldn't resist)

I know, it's hard to not feed trolls. They're just so cute! I sometimes can't resist either. Just don't do it again! *shakes finger*

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

nh23 & CutieMouse

Ah! Youre beginning to see the method to the madness. Gold Stars for everyone!

The Literotica budget for entertainment is limited, and I'm the best they can do. It's sad.

Count your lucky stars I dont sing.

 

[graceanne]

Count your lucky stars I dont sing.

 

[nh23]

nh23 & CutieMouse

Ah! Youre beginning to see the method to the madness. Gold Stars for everyone!

The Literotica budget for entertainment is limited, and I'm the best they can do. It's sad.

Count your lucky stars I dont sing.

Well they found someone very entertaining in you..that's for sure. Or maybe I lead a boring life...

 

[graceanne]

Well they found someone very entertaining in you..that's for sure. Or maybe I lead a boring life...

I love trolls. They're hugely entertaining. I always get so disappointed when they leave.

 

[nh23]

I love trolls. They're hugely entertaining. I always get so disappointed when they leave.

LOL....

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

HORNYBABE

The word isnt the issue. We've been trying to get 'fuck' right for 700 years. And regardless of what we call it, people keep on fucking.

The issue is control.

If you take a serious look at the political spectrum it isnt RIGHT VS LEFT. It's TOTALITARIANS at one end, and ANARCHISTS at the other. CONSERVATIVES & LIBERALS spin in the middle.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

nh23

I get chased from boards, and then they insist I return.

I strongly advocate that ass-kissing be legal in bedrooms only. That public ass-kissing should be a capital-offense punishable by hanging.

 

[nh23]

nh23

I get chased from boards, and then they insist I return.

I strongly advocate that ass-kissing be legal in bedrooms only. That public ass-kissing should be a capital-offense punishable by hanging.

Haha.. well you honestly don't have to worry about me kissing your ass..

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

nh23

Youre a mind-reader, too!

Well, I suppose I'll console myself with the knowledge I have one less thing to fret about. Why! I had just started pulling petals from daisies when your message was posted. Will she; wont she? I'll place them in a nice vase instead.

 

[nh23]

nh23

Youre a mind-reader, too!

Well, I suppose I'll console myself with the knowledge I have one less thing to fret about. Why! I had just started pulling petals from daisies when your message was posted. Will she; wont she? I'll place them in a nice vase instead.

LOL... There you go. It's always good to see the bright side of things.

 

[HB1965]

HORNYBABE

The word isnt the issue. We've been trying to get 'fuck' right for 700 years. And regardless of what we call it, people keep on fucking.

The issue is control.

If you take a serious look at the political spectrum it isnt RIGHT VS LEFT. It's TOTALITARIANS at one end, and ANARCHISTS at the other. CONSERVATIVES & LIBERALS spin in the middle.

Actually the term was the issue in that discussion.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

HORNYBABE

Let me re-state my assertion. The term is a red-herring for something else.

 

[Homburg]

What happened to context? Have we (net denizens) as a culture become so bloody sensitive that a completely accurate word, used with no displayed intent to offend, by what looks to be a professional involved in that field, has become fodder for multiple pages of vaguely affronted discussion?

Context matters, and can clear the air greatly when taken into account. I'm sure there's not a soul here that could not immediately think of a way to take some word commonly considered crass and use it such a way as to not offend normal sensitivities.

So why would this word, in this context, be so bothersome? Because the reader chooses to be bothered, I say. Because the reader brings their own issues into the conversation and lays blame for them at the feet of someone offering no offense, and using a word accurately within appropriate context. Is there a need for that?

Now, can we get back to the important business of poking sticks into James B Johnson's cage again? Please? Much more entertaining.

 

[graceanne]

What happened to context? Have we (net denizens) as a culture become so bloody sensitive that a completely accurate word, used with no displayed intent to offend, by what looks to be a professional involved in that field, has become fodder for multiple pages of vaguely affronted discussion?

Context matters, and can clear the air greatly when taken into account. I'm sure there's not a soul here that could not immediately think of a way to take some word commonly considered crass and use it such a way as to not offend normal sensitivities.

So why would this word, in this context, be so bothersome? Because the reader chooses to be bothered, I say. Because the reader brings their own issues into the conversation and lays blame for them at the feet of someone offering no offense, and using a word accurately within appropriate context. Is there a need for that?

Now, can we get back to the important business of poking sticks into James B Johnson's cage again? Please? Much more entertaining.

Be careful, I think trolls eat sticks.

It's best to maintain a safe distance and just watch it, you know, like at the zoo.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

HOMBURG

Experiments were done, and people will quarrel about any name or number or alpha-numeric combination you assign to anything.

Twenty years ago, when people were leaping from bridges to keep AIDS covered up, I argued that 'USE UNIVERSAL PRECAUTIONS' gave it up as much as 'AIDS' did.

Instead of bitch-slapping morons who abuse people, we do double back-flips to avoid calling something, anything.

I really believe that a small LOUISVILLE SLUGGER baseball bat applied with prejudice against a moron's kneecaps will do the trick.