Submissive 'Thought for the Day' Calendar 2007
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Congratulations graceanne.
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I officially deem this as a non-fluff thread. By the powers vested in me as the Official Literotica Fluff-Fairy I hereby proclaim that this thread is full of serious shit.
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June 14th - words of ecstaticsub
The end of a on-line relationship can hurt as much if not more than a relationship where you have actually touched the person. I don't like calling the opposite of on-line "real life" because on-line is real life. (no, I am not saying it is the same as a relationship where you are seeing someone and able to touch them..I know there are huge differences) BUT, emotionally you can become just as attached. Breaking up and having that person disappear into cyberspace can be very painful, with or without some kind of closure. So I understand your pain.
Just because you are a submissive doesn't mean that your needs don't count, they do. The problem with relationships, especially where we don't see the person is that it is easy for fantasy to fill in the blanks and make it seem better than it really is. Looking from the outside, this sounds like what may have happened to you.
You have every right to tell him it's not working out and that you are moving on. Then grieve a bit, pick yourself up and get back out there to find someone who will value you.
How does one end such a relationship such as this?
The end of a on-line relationship can hurt as much if not more than a relationship where you have actually touched the person. I don't like calling the opposite of on-line "real life" because on-line is real life. (no, I am not saying it is the same as a relationship where you are seeing someone and able to touch them..I know there are huge differences) BUT, emotionally you can become just as attached. Breaking up and having that person disappear into cyberspace can be very painful, with or without some kind of closure. So I understand your pain.
Just because you are a submissive doesn't mean that your needs don't count, they do. The problem with relationships, especially where we don't see the person is that it is easy for fantasy to fill in the blanks and make it seem better than it really is. Looking from the outside, this sounds like what may have happened to you.
You have every right to tell him it's not working out and that you are moving on. Then grieve a bit, pick yourself up and get back out there to find someone who will value you.
How does one end such a relationship such as this?
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June15th - words of snowy ciara
I'm sorry you're hurting, but it sounds like it's best to move on. You may want to give him a chance to make it better, but if it doesn't work out, may I suggest cutting off all contact for a few months?
I never did online bdsm, but I did make a close Dominant friend on another site. He was very kind to me when I needed it, and at one point, it looked like we were pulling together. It didn't work out for us (no particular reason, it just didn't fly. It happens, y'know.) So after I said "thank you, but this doesn't seem to be working for either of us." I eventually had to block him on my emails, and stay away from the site where we met and where we both participated. It was because even though we didn't have a relationship, I was drawn to him. I looked for him everywhere, and when I saw him, my heart pulled to him. Things with my current Mistress was looking up, I was terribly torn and conflicted. He was confusing me, even though he didn't do it intentionally and he felt he was being supportive when he checked in with me. Finally I told him that I needed a break and I'd be disappearing for a while. I was able to get on with my life a little easier then. In the past few months, we've connected again, and we're friends of a sort. But I needed a clean, decisive break for a while.
It can be very hard for a submissive to sometimes say that "I need to do what's best for me now" but sometimes you have to do that. You can't serve your Dominant well if you're not comfortable or happy with what's going on.
Actually, Cox cable in the area of the US where I used to live would do calls on Saturday, but they'd never schedule them in the afternoon. Usually because they'd end up being so far behind that they'd never get them done on time! And my cable here does service calls on the weekend, too. So maybe he's not goofing around.
Take care! I know this is hard for you. I hope it works out for the best.
How does one end a relationship like this?
I'm sorry you're hurting, but it sounds like it's best to move on. You may want to give him a chance to make it better, but if it doesn't work out, may I suggest cutting off all contact for a few months?
I never did online bdsm, but I did make a close Dominant friend on another site. He was very kind to me when I needed it, and at one point, it looked like we were pulling together. It didn't work out for us (no particular reason, it just didn't fly. It happens, y'know.) So after I said "thank you, but this doesn't seem to be working for either of us." I eventually had to block him on my emails, and stay away from the site where we met and where we both participated. It was because even though we didn't have a relationship, I was drawn to him. I looked for him everywhere, and when I saw him, my heart pulled to him. Things with my current Mistress was looking up, I was terribly torn and conflicted. He was confusing me, even though he didn't do it intentionally and he felt he was being supportive when he checked in with me. Finally I told him that I needed a break and I'd be disappearing for a while. I was able to get on with my life a little easier then. In the past few months, we've connected again, and we're friends of a sort. But I needed a clean, decisive break for a while.
It can be very hard for a submissive to sometimes say that "I need to do what's best for me now" but sometimes you have to do that. You can't serve your Dominant well if you're not comfortable or happy with what's going on.
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Actually, Cox cable in the area of the US where I used to live would do calls on Saturday, but they'd never schedule them in the afternoon. Usually because they'd end up being so far behind that they'd never get them done on time! And my cable here does service calls on the weekend, too. So maybe he's not goofing around.
Take care! I know this is hard for you. I hope it works out for the best.
How does one end a relationship like this?
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Thanks graceanne for including my words. I'm honored.
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You are also featured on May 29th position.
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Thanks Catalina. I missed that. thank you
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June 16th - words of bronntanas
Once upon a time, when the excrement hit the rotating blades, I hid in a monastery for a few weeks. I spent hours each day walking around and talking to the Benedictines. They were much cooler than the Christian Brothers who were responsible for my education at home. I was eventually able to get past some of my own stuff and see how it was really fucking up my life. (and believe me, it was some big stuff. A lot of it was done too me, but being young and stupid, I made it worse.) But one of the monks, an ancient guy named Brian, who looked like he was about a million years old had something interesting to say about pain one day, when I was expressing what had happened to me in the situation that had led me to the monastery. He said "It's the nature of a human being to think that our personal agony is the most important thing in the world. We want our suffering to make us special, so we treasure it, nurture it, even though it eats away at us. Truly my son," he added as he looked at me "It's not the pain the makes us special, it's the way we deal with it."
Brother Brian has rheumatoid arthritis and has been bedridden since the first hard frost. He's spending his time in bed, reading books into a web cam for some kids in a hospital every day and doing theology classes (from his bed) for the novices there. When his hands aren't so bad, he knits blanket squares for for "Warm-Up Canada!". He's not doing so well though, so I'm going to see him as soon as the weather permits. I hope I can make it before he goes, because I want to tell him he was right.
The Isolated Blurt Thread
Once upon a time, when the excrement hit the rotating blades, I hid in a monastery for a few weeks. I spent hours each day walking around and talking to the Benedictines. They were much cooler than the Christian Brothers who were responsible for my education at home. I was eventually able to get past some of my own stuff and see how it was really fucking up my life. (and believe me, it was some big stuff. A lot of it was done too me, but being young and stupid, I made it worse.) But one of the monks, an ancient guy named Brian, who looked like he was about a million years old had something interesting to say about pain one day, when I was expressing what had happened to me in the situation that had led me to the monastery. He said "It's the nature of a human being to think that our personal agony is the most important thing in the world. We want our suffering to make us special, so we treasure it, nurture it, even though it eats away at us. Truly my son," he added as he looked at me "It's not the pain the makes us special, it's the way we deal with it."
Brother Brian has rheumatoid arthritis and has been bedridden since the first hard frost. He's spending his time in bed, reading books into a web cam for some kids in a hospital every day and doing theology classes (from his bed) for the novices there. When his hands aren't so bad, he knits blanket squares for for "Warm-Up Canada!". He's not doing so well though, so I'm going to see him as soon as the weather permits. I hope I can make it before he goes, because I want to tell him he was right.
The Isolated Blurt Thread
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Thanks Graceanne! I leave you a purple santa cookie since I have no chocolate ones. (The kids at work made us cookies. All my santa's are purple or orange. I'm not sure why.)
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June 17th - words of snowy ciara
JUST BECAUSE A PARTICULAR FANTASY MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE DOES NOT MAKE IT BDSM SO SHOVING NON BDSMERS UNDER OUR UMBRELLA. IT'S GETTING CROWDED UNDER HERE!
No, having an incest fantasy where a daughter is unable to stop the father from using her does not make her a submissive. Some of these traits are submissive, but it doesn't mean the "daughter" is a submissive.
Likewise, having a rape fantasy, an incest fantasy, a watersports fantasy, a hooker fantasy or anything else where the fantasizer is unable to stop what going on and must "lie there and take it" does NOT a submissive make!
Here's a roll of quarters, there's the machine, NOW GO BUY A FUCKING CLUE!
PS Being a sexual door mat with "welcome users" tattooed on the forehead doesn't make a person a sub either. That's like saying the sun is a submissive because anyone can use it.
The Isolated Blurt BDSM Thread
JUST BECAUSE A PARTICULAR FANTASY MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE DOES NOT MAKE IT BDSM SO SHOVING NON BDSMERS UNDER OUR UMBRELLA. IT'S GETTING CROWDED UNDER HERE!
No, having an incest fantasy where a daughter is unable to stop the father from using her does not make her a submissive. Some of these traits are submissive, but it doesn't mean the "daughter" is a submissive.
Likewise, having a rape fantasy, an incest fantasy, a watersports fantasy, a hooker fantasy or anything else where the fantasizer is unable to stop what going on and must "lie there and take it" does NOT a submissive make!
Here's a roll of quarters, there's the machine, NOW GO BUY A FUCKING CLUE!
PS Being a sexual door mat with "welcome users" tattooed on the forehead doesn't make a person a sub either. That's like saying the sun is a submissive because anyone can use it.
The Isolated Blurt BDSM Thread
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*gropes*
You know, I really worry about snowy sometimes. She really needs to let this stuff out more.
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*gropes*
You know, I really worry about snowy sometimes. She really needs to let this stuff out more.
Yep. Especially since she articulates it so well - so I can put it in this thread.
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June 18th - words of ChainedRebel
"I find this to be very situational. Like all aspect of this "lifestyle" it is very dependent on the individuals involved, the relationship and/or the issue in question.
My wife and I do not engage in a 24/7 TPE life so our dominance and submission only plays so much of a role in daily stressors or difficult situations that arise. What's more, I supposse things can viewed differently from different perspectives. My wife is my sexual dominant and to some degree my "life" dominant. She handles all the bills, does the grocery shopping, etc. That to some may seem like the duties of a submissive yet to others might seem perfectly normal for the dominant.
I'm a strong Alpha-male type and that all comes out in me when something "bad" happens. My natural instinct to protect my family (and I don't just mean from violence, but financially, emotionally, etc.) outweighs all my submission. Depending on the situation, either one of us may handle it with input needed from the other or it may be something that requires long discussion and mutual agreement on how to handle it. In short, it just depends.
I don't believe that simply because one is submissive or dominant automatically implies that is or even should be their role in all aspects of a relationship. That is up to the individuals and the relationship they are in.
I know my dominant wife finds it comforting that I am willing to throw myself out in front when a crisis happens. It isn't that she isn't equipped to handle things but perhaps in some way she see me as being protective of her."
It Is Who I Am, Have Always Been...
"I find this to be very situational. Like all aspect of this "lifestyle" it is very dependent on the individuals involved, the relationship and/or the issue in question.
My wife and I do not engage in a 24/7 TPE life so our dominance and submission only plays so much of a role in daily stressors or difficult situations that arise. What's more, I supposse things can viewed differently from different perspectives. My wife is my sexual dominant and to some degree my "life" dominant. She handles all the bills, does the grocery shopping, etc. That to some may seem like the duties of a submissive yet to others might seem perfectly normal for the dominant.
I'm a strong Alpha-male type and that all comes out in me when something "bad" happens. My natural instinct to protect my family (and I don't just mean from violence, but financially, emotionally, etc.) outweighs all my submission. Depending on the situation, either one of us may handle it with input needed from the other or it may be something that requires long discussion and mutual agreement on how to handle it. In short, it just depends.
I don't believe that simply because one is submissive or dominant automatically implies that is or even should be their role in all aspects of a relationship. That is up to the individuals and the relationship they are in.
I know my dominant wife finds it comforting that I am willing to throw myself out in front when a crisis happens. It isn't that she isn't equipped to handle things but perhaps in some way she see me as being protective of her."
It Is Who I Am, Have Always Been...
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June 19th - words of CutieMouse
"Ages and eons ago (long before I even admitted to a kinky side, much less knew I enjoyed pain), friends and aquaintences thought I was a pain slut, because I chose to give birth unmedicated... which I always thought was a rather silly argument, as I did *not* particularly *enjoy* labor. *chuckles*
When I first started to sort out the idea of being submissive, I was quite insistant that I was not a pain slut... until I was introduced to the spiderwebs which sometimes connect pain and pleasure. Why I enjoy the painful sensations is multi-layered and depends quite a bit on where I'm at emotionally, mentally, physically, etc.
Firstly, I must agree with Bunny- at it's basic elements, pain is pleasure because the climax is so much sweeter when I'm a begging, tense, sobbing, aching mess. (ahem ))
Then there are those moments when pain helps take me "out of my head"... I tend to think far more than is good for me sometimes, and end up wound more and more tightly, until I feel like I might crack. Pain can be a welcome release under those conditions.
The only other "big" appeal that pain has for me, is with regards to contrition. I happen to be blessed (cursed) with a very deep "good girl" complex. When I screw something up, it is difficult for me to move past it without some sort of punishment. Painful experiences sometimes help me move past the guilt of being less than perfect (although it doesn't necessarily require a painful event to do so)........
....One of the odd things for me, is that going through eleventy-million unmedicated births meant getting really in tune with how my body deals with pain... which means if I focus, I can play with how much pain I take take. At times, it's simply a matter of remembering to breathe in a particular manner or visualize something that helps eroticise the pain; of course I have to be careful with doing that, because it messes with my ability to cry, and crying is part of the release... so if I allow a corner of my mind to remain focused on managing the pain for too long, it just ends up frustrating everyone."
The Appeal Of Pain
"Ages and eons ago (long before I even admitted to a kinky side, much less knew I enjoyed pain), friends and aquaintences thought I was a pain slut, because I chose to give birth unmedicated... which I always thought was a rather silly argument, as I did *not* particularly *enjoy* labor. *chuckles*
When I first started to sort out the idea of being submissive, I was quite insistant that I was not a pain slut... until I was introduced to the spiderwebs which sometimes connect pain and pleasure. Why I enjoy the painful sensations is multi-layered and depends quite a bit on where I'm at emotionally, mentally, physically, etc.
Firstly, I must agree with Bunny- at it's basic elements, pain is pleasure because the climax is so much sweeter when I'm a begging, tense, sobbing, aching mess. (ahem ))
Then there are those moments when pain helps take me "out of my head"... I tend to think far more than is good for me sometimes, and end up wound more and more tightly, until I feel like I might crack. Pain can be a welcome release under those conditions.
The only other "big" appeal that pain has for me, is with regards to contrition. I happen to be blessed (cursed) with a very deep "good girl" complex. When I screw something up, it is difficult for me to move past it without some sort of punishment. Painful experiences sometimes help me move past the guilt of being less than perfect (although it doesn't necessarily require a painful event to do so)........
....One of the odd things for me, is that going through eleventy-million unmedicated births meant getting really in tune with how my body deals with pain... which means if I focus, I can play with how much pain I take take. At times, it's simply a matter of remembering to breathe in a particular manner or visualize something that helps eroticise the pain; of course I have to be careful with doing that, because it messes with my ability to cry, and crying is part of the release... so if I allow a corner of my mind to remain focused on managing the pain for too long, it just ends up frustrating everyone."
The Appeal Of Pain
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June 20th - words of sexychik69
"Normally I read through a thread before responding, but this one hit too close to home.
I haven't had the pleasure of being in a 100%, full time D/s relationship, but I've come pretty close. I've had a handful of Doms, I can count them on one hand, all of which I feel like I've come closer to them than I have anyone else... and I never even had sex with them.
Right now I'm in a vanilla relationship. We tried the Dom/sub thing, but now he is claiming he "loves me too much to dominate me" when he knows in his heart that how to show his love for me IS to dominate me, not take something away that I hold so dearly. I miss it. I miss it terribly.
I have cravings all the time that I can't normally satisfy myself... okay, almost never myself. The only porn I download/buy is BDSM, the only fantasies I have are BDSM related, and the only thoughts I have sexually are even still rough and fierce. I love my baby to death, I really do, but it's so damn hard sometimes."
Oh So Vanilla
"Normally I read through a thread before responding, but this one hit too close to home.
I haven't had the pleasure of being in a 100%, full time D/s relationship, but I've come pretty close. I've had a handful of Doms, I can count them on one hand, all of which I feel like I've come closer to them than I have anyone else... and I never even had sex with them.
Right now I'm in a vanilla relationship. We tried the Dom/sub thing, but now he is claiming he "loves me too much to dominate me" when he knows in his heart that how to show his love for me IS to dominate me, not take something away that I hold so dearly. I miss it. I miss it terribly.
I have cravings all the time that I can't normally satisfy myself... okay, almost never myself. The only porn I download/buy is BDSM, the only fantasies I have are BDSM related, and the only thoughts I have sexually are even still rough and fierce. I love my baby to death, I really do, but it's so damn hard sometimes."
Oh So Vanilla
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June 21st - words of Brandii
" My God
I have never seen anything like that in my entire life. Unbelievable. My mouth is still open in shock. [ Just watched the video: I haven't seen the attachment above it yet!... but I will.]
Didn't really think the penis was real when I first saw it on screen: was thinking to myself at time, "That CAN'T be real. You couldn't buy undies to house that."
I'm not going to back out of the dare now that I know what deep throating really involves, but pretty sure now I won't manage to deep throat first go. Still practice makes perfect.
I take my hat off to all the women who can though.
and just as an added note: Retrieval, I don't "deep throat people who dare me."
I am playing with a friend who knows me well and who I trust. But your reply had me in stitches, all the same"
Deep Throating
" My God
I have never seen anything like that in my entire life. Unbelievable. My mouth is still open in shock. [ Just watched the video: I haven't seen the attachment above it yet!... but I will.]
Didn't really think the penis was real when I first saw it on screen: was thinking to myself at time, "That CAN'T be real. You couldn't buy undies to house that."
I'm not going to back out of the dare now that I know what deep throating really involves, but pretty sure now I won't manage to deep throat first go. Still practice makes perfect.
I take my hat off to all the women who can though.
and just as an added note: Retrieval, I don't "deep throat people who dare me."
I am playing with a friend who knows me well and who I trust. But your reply had me in stitches, all the same"
Deep Throating
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June 22nd - words of pandoravampire
"its a while ago now that i read and tried this wonderful idea for play.
my responses were intense. Very similar to fisting feeling internally, nothing like fisting head space however. But a neat trick.
Now im not sure why, but about a hour after this play, my uterus began contracting. No biggy, settled down after about 3 hrs. But going into a false labour, was not something mentioned as a possible outcome. And cant say something i enjoyed either lol.
My chain was sterilised first, everything was clean, im pretty sure it was not contracting due to pathogens.
Chains are readily available. Marine store chain is very expensive, as is anything from a bdsm store, it attracts the bdsm dollar.
I have a thing for chain. A big thing.
you get what you pay for.
$2 will buy you a long dog check chain, with sharp edges, that will nick the skin.
$50 bux, will buy you same style chain, but better made.
basically, find a chain you can afford that doesnt feel rough when stroked and ground into your under upper arm, or inner thigh. If its smooth to touch, no badly welded links, you away."
The Chain Trick
"its a while ago now that i read and tried this wonderful idea for play.
my responses were intense. Very similar to fisting feeling internally, nothing like fisting head space however. But a neat trick.
Now im not sure why, but about a hour after this play, my uterus began contracting. No biggy, settled down after about 3 hrs. But going into a false labour, was not something mentioned as a possible outcome. And cant say something i enjoyed either lol.
My chain was sterilised first, everything was clean, im pretty sure it was not contracting due to pathogens.
Chains are readily available. Marine store chain is very expensive, as is anything from a bdsm store, it attracts the bdsm dollar.
I have a thing for chain. A big thing.
you get what you pay for.
$2 will buy you a long dog check chain, with sharp edges, that will nick the skin.
$50 bux, will buy you same style chain, but better made.
basically, find a chain you can afford that doesnt feel rough when stroked and ground into your under upper arm, or inner thigh. If its smooth to touch, no badly welded links, you away."
The Chain Trick
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June 23rd - words of satindesire
"I am a gregarious loudmouth who loves to tease people and crack jokes. When I get around men that I find attractive, though, I am a sly under-the-lashes corset-strung damsel in distress. Pathetic, I know.
Around dominant women I get very odd tingly feelings in my private no-no place but I can't seem to wrap my head around having my face in any girl crotch, so I don't ever do anything about it.
Around dominant men, I'm still a gregarious loudmouth, only I generally tend to do what I'm told. Generally. My boss, for example, confuses the hell out of me, because even though no one else ever does what he tells them to do, I follow his lead like a puppy and constantly defer to him. My co-workers laugh at me because of it.
Just in general I have a very outgoing personality, but I've never been confused for a switch or Domme before"
I Am Not A Switch
"I am a gregarious loudmouth who loves to tease people and crack jokes. When I get around men that I find attractive, though, I am a sly under-the-lashes corset-strung damsel in distress. Pathetic, I know.
Around dominant women I get very odd tingly feelings in my private no-no place but I can't seem to wrap my head around having my face in any girl crotch, so I don't ever do anything about it.
Around dominant men, I'm still a gregarious loudmouth, only I generally tend to do what I'm told. Generally. My boss, for example, confuses the hell out of me, because even though no one else ever does what he tells them to do, I follow his lead like a puppy and constantly defer to him. My co-workers laugh at me because of it.
Just in general I have a very outgoing personality, but I've never been confused for a switch or Domme before"
I Am Not A Switch
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June 24th - words of myinnerslut
"thought it was odd that this happened right at the time that this thread was up and about, but last night for the first time, A excersised his right to look over what ive writtten on lit. i have to say, it made me very nervouse as he jumped from thread to thread. not that i had anything to hide, but even so, i was still nervouse."
Does Your Dominant Filter Your Outside Contact?
"thought it was odd that this happened right at the time that this thread was up and about, but last night for the first time, A excersised his right to look over what ive writtten on lit. i have to say, it made me very nervouse as he jumped from thread to thread. not that i had anything to hide, but even so, i was still nervouse."
Does Your Dominant Filter Your Outside Contact?
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June 25th - words of ecstaticsub
"My Dom has mentioned this to me and I admit the idea excites me greatly. (it took me a few tries to get through this thread because I had to take play breaks..)
The problem is eight years ago I had a vaginal hysterectomy due to uterine prolapse. I also had vaginal repairs for a cystocele and a rectocele. I have fully healed. I have no problems during sex, or using various sized toys inside me (though I haven't tried anything as large as a fist) . My Dom knows I have had this surgery. He has experience with fisting and has assured me that he will take it very slowly and with care.
My question is has anyone who has had this kind of surgery tried this before or do you know anyone who has? "
Fisting
"My Dom has mentioned this to me and I admit the idea excites me greatly. (it took me a few tries to get through this thread because I had to take play breaks..)
The problem is eight years ago I had a vaginal hysterectomy due to uterine prolapse. I also had vaginal repairs for a cystocele and a rectocele. I have fully healed. I have no problems during sex, or using various sized toys inside me (though I haven't tried anything as large as a fist) . My Dom knows I have had this surgery. He has experience with fisting and has assured me that he will take it very slowly and with care.
My question is has anyone who has had this kind of surgery tried this before or do you know anyone who has? "
Fisting
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June 26th - words of Quint
"Short answer: yes.
Somewhat longer answer: while I wouldn't classify it as arousal in the "oh my god I'm so wet" sort of way, fear (with notable exceptions) makes me want to fuck. I think it's the missing "f" in "fight or flight." To me, sex is both an outlet of the adrenaline as previously mentioned and a way of conquering (or perhaps "redirecting" is a more accurate word) the fear by turning it to a more comfortable, understandable subject."
Does Fear and/or Adrenaline Cause Arousal For You?
"Short answer: yes.
Somewhat longer answer: while I wouldn't classify it as arousal in the "oh my god I'm so wet" sort of way, fear (with notable exceptions) makes me want to fuck. I think it's the missing "f" in "fight or flight." To me, sex is both an outlet of the adrenaline as previously mentioned and a way of conquering (or perhaps "redirecting" is a more accurate word) the fear by turning it to a more comfortable, understandable subject."
Does Fear and/or Adrenaline Cause Arousal For You?
catalina_francisco
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June 27th - words of ownedsubgal
"for me a great part of the appeal is in the danger and risks involved. if condoms were used, if the men were all pre-screened to make sure there were no psychos and crazies, if everything were perfectly safe and cozy, then what the heck would be the point? it might as well be a medical exam."
Gloryhole
"for me a great part of the appeal is in the danger and risks involved. if condoms were used, if the men were all pre-screened to make sure there were no psychos and crazies, if everything were perfectly safe and cozy, then what the heck would be the point? it might as well be a medical exam."
Gloryhole
