Submissive 'Thought for the Day' Calendar 2007
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May 6th - words of Dolf
i think, for most in the scene, the world is thrown around as a "cool kids" thing.
but in reality, he fucks up too much and you are free to choose to leave.
and often they do.
he cheats, he lies, he abuses, he neglects, he stops acting dom and asks you to spank him, he turns out to be a pedo or serial killer, you walk away.
that's not really "owned" is it? it's really "on long term loan"...but that doesn't sound cool at all.
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i think, for most in the scene, the world is thrown around as a "cool kids" thing.
but in reality, he fucks up too much and you are free to choose to leave.
and often they do.
he cheats, he lies, he abuses, he neglects, he stops acting dom and asks you to spank him, he turns out to be a pedo or serial killer, you walk away.
that's not really "owned" is it? it's really "on long term loan"...but that doesn't sound cool at all.
Ownership
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Quoted by intothewoods. If anyone knows which thread this is on would they link me? I'll put it at the bottom of Sinn's post. Thanks.
May 7th - words of Sinn0cent1
It's called ENGLISH.
I won't speak for others, but I bet if I did I'd be on the mark for most in telling you that the use of possesive pronouns does not affect how much control a 'Dom' has over thier 'sub'. (PYL/pyl whatever)
Many PEOPLE... and 'subs' as you call them [pyl] have and do make use of a good portion of common sense in not mangling sentence structure, and grammar and the English language.
It's awkward for both the reader and the person speaking to use sillynilly phrases such as 'the Master of this one' ... 'the grand poobaa who lay claim to my subby ass'.
True fucking shmoooooo.
What kind of person, [regardless of how dominant or submissive they claim to be and/or identify as] makes it thier business to define what is and what is not.. especially in regard to taking it upon themselves to define other PEOPLE and thier relationships?
True what?? True ass? True fools? True ignorants?
This IS what you are referring to I am guessing.
May 7th - words of Sinn0cent1
It's called ENGLISH.
I won't speak for others, but I bet if I did I'd be on the mark for most in telling you that the use of possesive pronouns does not affect how much control a 'Dom' has over thier 'sub'. (PYL/pyl whatever)
Many PEOPLE... and 'subs' as you call them [pyl] have and do make use of a good portion of common sense in not mangling sentence structure, and grammar and the English language.
It's awkward for both the reader and the person speaking to use sillynilly phrases such as 'the Master of this one' ... 'the grand poobaa who lay claim to my subby ass'.
True fucking shmoooooo.
What kind of person, [regardless of how dominant or submissive they claim to be and/or identify as] makes it thier business to define what is and what is not.. especially in regard to taking it upon themselves to define other PEOPLE and thier relationships?
True what?? True ass? True fools? True ignorants?
This IS what you are referring to I am guessing.
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sinn0cent1 said:Take whichever portion of the year that has not yet been covered, slap it all into one huge post and just say that everyone who posted is a *twue* submissive.
Problem solved.
MAKE your own rules !! YAY !!
Oh lord.
I'm SO not going down the 'twue sub' road. Talk about a big ugly can of worms. LOL I was thinking we should just have a bdsm thought of the day calender next year, so i can put quotes from dominants, too. We might actually make it past june that way. LOL
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Well why not then??graceanne said:Oh lord.
Including the domly ones into the mix is not half bad of an idea Graceanne [although knowing them... they would probbaly want to run the whole thing
heheheehee]. I've wondered at the possibility myself. I like it. Change is good..... especially when it solves issues and makes life easier. Good idea...
Damn girl. You GO. All that a bag a chips and brains too! You rock.
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sinn0cent1 said:Well why not then??
Including the domly ones into the mix is not half bad of an idea Graceanne [although knowing them... they would probbaly want to run the whole thing
I like it. Change is good..... especially when it solves issues and makes life easier. Good idea...
Damn girl. You GO. All that a bag a chips and brains too! You rock.
Shh! Don't give away my secret! Remember - I'm the ditzy cookie girl.
Chocolate, anyone?
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May 8th - words of Dolf
nope, i'm giving an extreme example to illustrate a point.
in the end we aren't really owned. it's merely a state of mind we allow ourselves to inhabit, as netz described.
the world we create in our minds is every bit as real to us as the mundane world.
to us.
but the bonds are only our choices. choice is freedom, even when that choice is to forsake freedom.
Ownership
(Thanks for the topic, bandit - it's moving this thread along quickly.)
nope, i'm giving an extreme example to illustrate a point.
in the end we aren't really owned. it's merely a state of mind we allow ourselves to inhabit, as netz described.
the world we create in our minds is every bit as real to us as the mundane world.
to us.
but the bonds are only our choices. choice is freedom, even when that choice is to forsake freedom.
Ownership
(Thanks for the topic, bandit - it's moving this thread along quickly.)
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oh yeah...... oops. i'm shushing. now.graceanne said:Shh! Don't give away my secret! Remember - I'm the ditzy cookie girl.
Chocolate, anyone?
P.S. uhhmm.. Graceanne? You have a chcolate chip stuck to your butt.
heheh wanna me to get that for you huh? huh? huhh!!??
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sinn0cent1 said:oh yeah...... oops. i'm shushing. now.
P.S. uhhmm.. Graceanne? You have a chcolate chip stuck to your butt.
I do?
Darnit! I guess we know I'm not a princess.And STAY AWAY FROM MY CHOCOLATE!
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May 9th - words of Netzach
It would be nice if assholes had to wear an official scarlet A or something, but sadly, you just have to rely on a mix of spidey sense, knowing what you want and need out of a relationship, and luck, I think.
Dominants vs "control complex"
It would be nice if assholes had to wear an official scarlet A or something, but sadly, you just have to rely on a mix of spidey sense, knowing what you want and need out of a relationship, and luck, I think.
Dominants vs "control complex"
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May 20th - words of Shankara20
Top/bottom DomDomme/sub Master/slave Daddy/girl-boy GLBT-Streight
We have discussed, and occasionally argued, the meaning of these terms and how we each manifest them in our lives.
IMHO these are all rolls we, more-or-less, choose to accept. Some accept the rolls with deep convection and some are rather loose and slippery about it. As a bisexual switch I am one of the loose and slippery ones.
To me gender has aspects of accepting rolls as well, although the choosing is made more difficult by the plumbing one is born with as well as how the culture you were born into defines those rolls. When posting here I very seldom use the words "man" or "woman" - I tend to use "male" and "female" and I know when I do that I might be discounting those of us that are trans and intersexed here - I wish I knew language that did not do that.
I do not use "man" and "woman" because I honestly do not know what defines them. I have friends with cocks and balls that present themselves as females, I have friends with vaginas that present as males.
So - gender bending. What do you do, if anything, to "bend" the rules of your societies gender rolls? And does it cost you anything in social acceptance? Do you give a poop? I see gender bending as different from sexual orientation - but that can be a factor as well, what do you thing?
Most here have seen pics of me in my panties - but that is safe for me, under my clothing and at home when alone. When I lived in San Francisco, on weekends I would wear red or pink fingernail polish and blouses, but not at work. Some here may remember a thread I started about going to BDSM events as a Top while dressed only in lace undies and high heals (landing a flogger is a bitch in heals). Now that I am back in Kansas about the only thing I do is wear colored earrings, hug other males, cry in public at times, and say thinks like "guess I was wrong about that" or "I'm sorry" - things a "real man" would not say 'round here. (I have a real fear that my 11 and 7 year old grandsons will see me in one of my dresses but that is fodder for a discussion at another time)
Are you a gender bender?
Gender Bending
Top/bottom DomDomme/sub Master/slave Daddy/girl-boy GLBT-Streight
We have discussed, and occasionally argued, the meaning of these terms and how we each manifest them in our lives.
IMHO these are all rolls we, more-or-less, choose to accept. Some accept the rolls with deep convection and some are rather loose and slippery about it. As a bisexual switch I am one of the loose and slippery ones.
To me gender has aspects of accepting rolls as well, although the choosing is made more difficult by the plumbing one is born with as well as how the culture you were born into defines those rolls. When posting here I very seldom use the words "man" or "woman" - I tend to use "male" and "female" and I know when I do that I might be discounting those of us that are trans and intersexed here - I wish I knew language that did not do that.
I do not use "man" and "woman" because I honestly do not know what defines them. I have friends with cocks and balls that present themselves as females, I have friends with vaginas that present as males.
So - gender bending. What do you do, if anything, to "bend" the rules of your societies gender rolls? And does it cost you anything in social acceptance? Do you give a poop? I see gender bending as different from sexual orientation - but that can be a factor as well, what do you thing?
Most here have seen pics of me in my panties - but that is safe for me, under my clothing and at home when alone. When I lived in San Francisco, on weekends I would wear red or pink fingernail polish and blouses, but not at work. Some here may remember a thread I started about going to BDSM events as a Top while dressed only in lace undies and high heals (landing a flogger is a bitch in heals). Now that I am back in Kansas about the only thing I do is wear colored earrings, hug other males, cry in public at times, and say thinks like "guess I was wrong about that" or "I'm sorry" - things a "real man" would not say 'round here. (I have a real fear that my 11 and 7 year old grandsons will see me in one of my dresses but that is fodder for a discussion at another time)
Are you a gender bender?
Gender Bending
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As suggested by KajiraCallista:
May 21st - words of snowy ciara
Okay, my first thought when Grace says she paints her little boy's toes was "what color?"
I really hope this makes sense, but my thoughts aren't real clear on this yet. So I hope I'm making sense. If not, I'll try to clarify.
I've been following this thread and reading it and cogitating and percolating and stuff, because I'm sort of gender fluid myself. I suppose now, if I did have to have a label, I'd be a tomboy femme, but I kind of reject the whole label thing.
I don't perceive gender as an arbitrary, binary thing. And since non binary gender does occur in nature (in some plants, and fishes and reptiles) I can't accept that gender is binary. Especially when I look at myself and realize that for a large periods of my life, I had no discernible gender to myself.
When I was a child, I didn't identify as male or female. I couldn't definitively place myself on either side of the line. I have female plumbing, and generally fall to the female side of the line, but there are times when I don't feel like a female at all. Most of the time, I'm just a sexual being. I do feel more boy than girl at times.
The funny thing is, I've done the "boy" thing that Netzach mentioned. My Domme took me to a gay bar as a boy. She called me by a boy's name, and my breasts were bound but even an environment full of gender outlaws, the majority of people took in my baseball cap, jeans, boots and bulge - she made me pack that night. It was weird! It was quite a Netzach moment- and my waist length braids and STILL referred to me as a girl. I was annoyed! And grumpy. I was in boy mode, danced with the pretty girls, used the men's lavatory and there was still a small contingent who couldn't see past my long hair. It really re--inforced to me that even though I don't see long hair as a particularly feminine trait, most people do. But when we got home and I turned to her and said "Fuck me like a boy, please, Ma'am." we nearly blew the roof off! I swear I had a cock grinding against the pillows when she was riding me from behind. It was one of the most mind-blowing O's I've ever had.
But anyway.
I don't know if my lack of um, acceptance of the binary gender system is what makes me attracted to all sorts of people or not. I mean, I've never felt straight, bi-sexual or gay. I've always been attracted to people and the gender represented by their plumbing or personality has not been important. If they're a jerk, that's important, but gender really isn't. But I can say, that gender fluid people have always attracted me. I might get turned on by a random guy, or by a random girl, but a gender fluid person will almost always perk up my radar. Unless they're doing that caricature thing.
I've noticed that I'm more comfortable with trans people too. They are my people, even though some do not accept me as the feel I am too traditionally female. Which is probably why, when I finally found a Domme whom I was comfortable with, she turned out to be an MTF transsexual. She is all that is woman to me. Graceful, gentle, kind, and mean and nasty when she needs to be. She never did hormones or bottom surgery though, because she likes having a penis. She says it comes handy, since even though she is a woman, she prefers to be the penetratER rather than the penetratEE. But I didn't know for sure she was trans when we met. She is a beautiful, sexy, confident woman. With a cock. And I couldn't imagine her any other way.
So that's sort of where I am. For now. But I reserve the right to change without notice. Being gender-fluid can be like that.
Gender Bending
May 21st - words of snowy ciara
Okay, my first thought when Grace says she paints her little boy's toes was "what color?"
I really hope this makes sense, but my thoughts aren't real clear on this yet. So I hope I'm making sense. If not, I'll try to clarify.
I've been following this thread and reading it and cogitating and percolating and stuff, because I'm sort of gender fluid myself. I suppose now, if I did have to have a label, I'd be a tomboy femme, but I kind of reject the whole label thing.
I don't perceive gender as an arbitrary, binary thing. And since non binary gender does occur in nature (in some plants, and fishes and reptiles) I can't accept that gender is binary. Especially when I look at myself and realize that for a large periods of my life, I had no discernible gender to myself.
When I was a child, I didn't identify as male or female. I couldn't definitively place myself on either side of the line. I have female plumbing, and generally fall to the female side of the line, but there are times when I don't feel like a female at all. Most of the time, I'm just a sexual being. I do feel more boy than girl at times.
The funny thing is, I've done the "boy" thing that Netzach mentioned. My Domme took me to a gay bar as a boy. She called me by a boy's name, and my breasts were bound but even an environment full of gender outlaws, the majority of people took in my baseball cap, jeans, boots and bulge - she made me pack that night. It was weird! It was quite a Netzach moment- and my waist length braids and STILL referred to me as a girl. I was annoyed! And grumpy. I was in boy mode, danced with the pretty girls, used the men's lavatory and there was still a small contingent who couldn't see past my long hair. It really re--inforced to me that even though I don't see long hair as a particularly feminine trait, most people do. But when we got home and I turned to her and said "Fuck me like a boy, please, Ma'am." we nearly blew the roof off! I swear I had a cock grinding against the pillows when she was riding me from behind. It was one of the most mind-blowing O's I've ever had.
But anyway.
I don't know if my lack of um, acceptance of the binary gender system is what makes me attracted to all sorts of people or not. I mean, I've never felt straight, bi-sexual or gay. I've always been attracted to people and the gender represented by their plumbing or personality has not been important. If they're a jerk, that's important, but gender really isn't. But I can say, that gender fluid people have always attracted me. I might get turned on by a random guy, or by a random girl, but a gender fluid person will almost always perk up my radar. Unless they're doing that caricature thing.
I've noticed that I'm more comfortable with trans people too. They are my people, even though some do not accept me as the feel I am too traditionally female. Which is probably why, when I finally found a Domme whom I was comfortable with, she turned out to be an MTF transsexual. She is all that is woman to me. Graceful, gentle, kind, and mean and nasty when she needs to be. She never did hormones or bottom surgery though, because she likes having a penis. She says it comes handy, since even though she is a woman, she prefers to be the penetratER rather than the penetratEE. But I didn't know for sure she was trans when we met. She is a beautiful, sexy, confident woman. With a cock. And I couldn't imagine her any other way.
So that's sort of where I am. For now. But I reserve the right to change without notice. Being gender-fluid can be like that.
Gender Bending
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Aaaawwww.... Thanks ladies. Cocoa?
Thanks ladies. Cocoa?
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May 22nd - words of intothewoods
I attended a cocksucking workshop taught by porn star Nina Hartley. In addition to many of the "tips" described in that article, she described how to suck cock from a submissive perspective, and a dominant one.
I happen to think that there is almost a subtle power struggle, or maybe a back and forth, during cocksucking. There is that moment where the man gets close to orgasm when he gives up a just a little bit of control, and then that cock is almost mine for a second. He might grab my hair and fuck my face, taking back that control. Or he might give into it.
I think it's kind of beautiful, myself.
Oral Servitude
I attended a cocksucking workshop taught by porn star Nina Hartley. In addition to many of the "tips" described in that article, she described how to suck cock from a submissive perspective, and a dominant one.
I happen to think that there is almost a subtle power struggle, or maybe a back and forth, during cocksucking. There is that moment where the man gets close to orgasm when he gives up a just a little bit of control, and then that cock is almost mine for a second. He might grab my hair and fuck my face, taking back that control. Or he might give into it.
I think it's kind of beautiful, myself.
Oral Servitude
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Oh my goodness! And just when I was thinking, gee, maybe no one gets me here. I guess I should take my own advice and calm the fuck down. Thanks, graceanne!
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I think that a lot to intothewoods. But then someone does get me, and it feels good.
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May 23nd - words of HottieMama
Enjoy every moment...every talk....every play time... Savor it...Treasure it.
TRY not to think about "forever." Forever comes from one day building on another..on another..on another... You don't wake up one day and all of a sudden it's "forever," and your goal is accomplished. It is a constant process.
Make sure that he knows that you are insecure/fearful...not because he should fix it, but because it will give him insight into who you are and how you think. There is nothing wrong with being scared of being hurt again. If you weren't i would be worried. No one wants to hand someone their heart, just to have the other person throw it away. At the same time, trust him when he says he cares about you, isn't leaving and isn't going to hurt you. Have faith that you have met someone who is a "man of their word," and ENJOY IT.
You know i'm here for you if you need me.
Advice.... (http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=24909868#post24909868) over three thousand posts and i still havnt figured out how to make words into links
Enjoy every moment...every talk....every play time... Savor it...Treasure it.
TRY not to think about "forever." Forever comes from one day building on another..on another..on another... You don't wake up one day and all of a sudden it's "forever," and your goal is accomplished. It is a constant process.
Make sure that he knows that you are insecure/fearful...not because he should fix it, but because it will give him insight into who you are and how you think. There is nothing wrong with being scared of being hurt again. If you weren't i would be worried. No one wants to hand someone their heart, just to have the other person throw it away. At the same time, trust him when he says he cares about you, isn't leaving and isn't going to hurt you. Have faith that you have met someone who is a "man of their word," and ENJOY IT.
You know i'm here for you if you need me.
Advice.... (http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?p=24909868#post24909868) over three thousand posts and i still havnt figured out how to make words into links
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myinnerslut said:
Oh holy crap...
Thank you, mis.
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HottieMama said:Oh holy crap...
Thank you, mis.
as gracie once told me:
dont thank me, it was a good post
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Sub talk
I posted language/literary based remarks yesterday evening and don't see any sign of the post...was it off base?
I posted language/literary based remarks yesterday evening and don't see any sign of the post...was it off base?
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Whoops!
Wrong thread...how humiliating (that's supposed to be my job).
Wrong thread...how humiliating (that's supposed to be my job).
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Not sure if I'm doing this right...(since last time I left out all sorts of info!)
Words of ADR in the Submission...should it be done blindly thread...November 29:
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=25095551&postcount=11
Rock on, sister!
Words of ADR in the Submission...should it be done blindly thread...November 29:
http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=25095551&postcount=11
Rock on, sister!
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As suggested by intothewoods . . .
May 24th - words of A Desert Rose
Well yanno... people meet and think the chemistry is perfect and then do foolish things... like that time I put my finger in the light socket to make sure the electricity was turned on...
Submission.. should it be done blindly?
May 24th - words of A Desert Rose
Well yanno... people meet and think the chemistry is perfect and then do foolish things... like that time I put my finger in the light socket to make sure the electricity was turned on...
Submission.. should it be done blindly?
