the annoyances of being trans and interested in bdsm

[Johnny Mayberry]

one thing to have jokes from TSes who knows what the are talking, and it is another when someone who is not a TS or trans to do without truely having any real understanding of TSes.

-mellian

You keep claiming that I don't understand it...based on what?

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

in this case, you are more like making a joke about the kids disability.

like seriously, i don't need some constant remember about my genitalia. I had others before make trans related jokes, but not ones directed at something which already bloody annoying as is.

-mellian

Not really 'making a joke'...if I were disabled and in a wheelchair, I'd want one of those lawn mower racers to throw an engine in the back so could zip around at 45 mph. And a flamethrower!(I'm not sure a missle launcher would be practical....)

The genitalia is funny, though...isn't it? Like having a sixth finger on one hand, only worse.

 

[sunfox]

one thing to have jokes from TSes who knows what the are talking, and it is another when someone who is not a TS or trans to do without truely having any real understanding of TSes.

-mellian

Ahhh, now I see the real issue here. It's okay for you to be prejudiced against people who aren't TS, and call them ignorant and assholes with no justification... but should they say anything you find questionable, you can call them on the carpet about it.

Now I understand.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Ahhh, now I see the real issue here. It's okay for you to be prejudiced against people who aren't TS, and call them ignorant and assholes with no justification... but should they say anything you find questionable, you can call them on the carpet about it.

Now I understand.

Maybe when the doctors are hacking off mellian's twig and berries, they can amputate the giant chip on her shoulder?

I'm an asshole and ignorant because I noted the fact that mellian has a cock.

 

[catalina_francisco]

one thing to have jokes from TSes who knows what the are talking, and it is another when someone who is not a TS or trans to do without truely having any real understanding of TSes.

-mellian

Actually they not only could laugh at themselves, but invited others to laugh with them. I can only presume that was because they were comfortable with who they were, and proud of it.

Catalina

 

[mellian]

Actually they not only could laugh at themselves, but invited others to laugh with them. I can only presume that was because they were comfortable with who they were, and proud of it.

Catalina

so i'm I, to the point i don't to need to deal with BSs from some people who currently trying to make it seem I have a problem, no sense of humour and make me into some troll.

anyway, once it is aware i consider the little jokes and quips directed at me as not funny, they should stop, but no, they continue.

-mellian

 

[Etoile]

mellian, I have a question for you.

What response were you hoping for when you posted this thread? What was your motivation for posting it?

 

[sunfox]

so i'm I, to the point i don't to need to deal with BSs from some people who currently trying to make it seem I have a problem, no sense of humour and make me into some troll.

anyway, once it is aware i consider the little jokes and quips directed as not funny, they should stop, but no, they continue.

-mellian

I suspect it was the inexplicable tantrums that made you seem like a troll to some, but I could be wrong.

Either way, I'm not sure who this 'they' is who is joking.. but I wasn't joking in my last post. I was nearly 99% serious, and it just doesn't get any more serious than that for me. Prejudice isn't pretty, no matter who is dishing it out.

 

[mellian]

mellian, I have a question for you.

What response were you hoping for when you posted this thread? What was your motivation for posting it?

I wasn't really hoping to get any particular kind of responses, other expecting people stating the obvious and 'your nothing special' type responses.

as for my motivation, i don't know. I just like posting it...which i in turn copy and pasted at various bdsm related message boards and email lists.

could also be partly that I don't have anything else to really talk about. I have an interest in bdsm, yet i don't know what to ask, because i currently don't have any experience to question about, and i already read and told about the theory/text stuff.

anyway....

-mellian

 

[mellian]

I suspect it was the inexplicable tantrums that made you seem like a troll to some, but I could be wrong.

Either way, I'm not sure who this 'they' is who is joking.. but I wasn't joking in my last post. I was nearly 99% serious, and it just doesn't get any more serious than that for me. Prejudice isn't pretty, no matter who is dishing it out.

...how did you expect for me to know for sure you were serious or not without me being able to see and hear you. hence, pretty easy to make assumptions, intentionally or not, solely base on text on a monitor, our imagination and current mood.

-mellian

 

[Pure]

I'm glad the possibilities of humor are not lost on the moderators and sunfox,

Imagine (Johnny watch!) : Etoile cutting a deal; Mellian wants, at some point, perhaps, to get rid of some bits. (Not that 'Daddy' is _missing_ anything, but maybe 'his' size does matter just a little!) With these bits transplanted, 'Daddy' could possibly have 5 times the phallic** endowment, and perhaps end Etoile's reliance, in the wee hours, on lesbian porn supplements.

This newly endowed Daddy could give Catalina, resident crone and feminist at real treat! A 'him' sodomizing her but with the female 'ways of knowing' and the XY 'meat' she's acquired a taste for-- not in, but 'next to' the Goddess' cave.

Johnny, ever the voyeur, is cracking up, though he's into the more solitary stuff:

How often do you masturbate 12/29/02
Johnny Mayberry:
"I was recently up to about 5-6 times a day...not bad for a guy nearing 30, but a bit excessive, maybe. Now, I'm down to once or twice a day, depending on how turned on I am."

Sunfox having loosely diapered him, he's jacking like crazy, cackling at the wit of his posting:
how about suggesting that we all act like civilized human beings whose minds control our urges, and not the other way around?



The UNdeviate but kindly sunfox has, however, been nice enough to loan Johnny a couple used tampaxes to sniff, and the two burst into gales of laughter when he shoots onto his own chin. Taking a gooey string, he offers it, in great hilarity to Mr. Blonde, who sucks it in and snowballs it back to Johnny, who types his last posting before the next whack round:

BDSM and humor don't mix.




**in the gender neutral sense

 

[sunfox]

...how did you expect for me to know for sure you were serious or not without me being able to see and hear you. hence, pretty easy to make assumptions, intentionally or not, solely base on text on a monitor, our imagination and current mood.

-mellian

For future understanding.. I will direct all to the lack of smilies and annoying emoticons to dictate my mood. When I am teasing, I will make an effort to make that clear. When I am not... I will avoid such confusing images.

Thus ends the Sunfox Primer on her particular brand of odd humor, such as it is.

 

[sunfox]

I'm glad the possibilities of humor are not lost on the moderators and sunfox

The possibility for humor is rarely lost on me. There are very few things in life that require absolute solemnity.. and BDSM surely ain't one of them. Case in point, I spent nearly my entire last night's sexual acrobatics giggling uncontrollably... to the point where I infected my partner with a bad case of it, and when we were finished... we both continued to laugh for probably ten minutes more before we could stop.

I do think it's entirely possible to laugh at things when you shouldn't.... but I also think it's possible to take yourself way way too **seriously.


** And I mean WAY too seriously. for Pure, who as we see, does indeed have a sense of humor. Even if it's a trifle strange.

 

[bridgeburner]

Here, I've got a really funny joke:


Ms. X: I'm bi-racial and raised by my white parent in a white community. I more than pass as white but my self-identity is black. Unfortunately in looking for relationships with other African Americans they tend to see me as white and treat me as such. I'd really like to have better acceptance and ease in this community but am not having much luck. Any advice?


Poster Y: Gee, broken home, half nigger? That's gotta suck. If you look white then you're white. What's your trip? Just looking for attention? I'd say you've got plenty of other problems trying to be what you're not already. No wonder you can't find a relationship.

Ms. X: That's unhelpful and insulting. Who the fuck are you?

Poster Y: Ooooh! The little oreo must be PMSing. I'm just joking around and telling it like it is.





Now isn't that the funniest shit you've heard all week? A real knee slapper. That Ms. X is so touchy. Can't she see that Poster Y is just giving her the honest down-low and teasing her?




-B

 

[sunfox]

Here, let me personalize it for you.

Let's say I'm poster A. I actually AM biracial. I was raised by TWO white parents.. that's right.. adopted in addition to being biracial and living in a lily white town.

And yet, somehow, I don't get all bitter and bitchy if someone thinks they're funny.

Does it really help to attack everyone on the place because ONE person said something you didn't think was funny? Cause if I'd had the idiocy to attempt to fight every person that called me a nigger, I'd be in jail for attempted homicide of a town of 800.

Seriously. Get over yourself. There are way better battles to fight than a non-existent insult from a group of people who aren't trying to make fun of you. Oversensitive much?

 

[MissTaken]

For future understanding.. I will direct all to the lack of smilies and annoying emoticons to dictate my mood. When I am teasing, I will make an effort to make that clear. When I am not... I will avoid such confusing images.

Thus ends the Sunfox Primer on her particular brand of odd humor, such as it is.

Seriously, emoticons go a long way to punctuating a post or adding inflection that may be missing in your textual "voice."

To be perfectly honest, a thread discussing the challenges and glories of transexualism might have a decent following and provide many of us food for thought.

It is unfortunate it didn't happen here.

Again, on topic, I have known similar frustration in finding communities and discussion groups for Dominant women. Many are focussed toward Pro Dommes or are jerk off sites for submissive men.

Good luck,
MissT

 

[mellian]

To be perfectly honest, a thread discussing the challenges and glories of transexualism might have a decent following and provide many of us food for thought.

yes, but no one was really asking any questions about it, hence no answers to them. I would be glad to have a discussion of that sort, but a shame that hasn't happen so far.

-mellian

 

[sunfox]

Miss T - Would a thread about transexualism really be a BDSM topic though, without the added interest mellian had stated in a BDSM relationship? Just wondering for clarification, cause I'm never quite sure what goes where.

mellian - Had a discussion on transexualism and BDSM been your goal, all you had to do was ask questions. The same goes for your original question in that vein, which several people attempted to comment on. I'm rather unsurprised that the discussion couldn't continue after the sharp turn it took. So if that's what you'd actually like, please, feel free to ask questions, and not rip everyone who answers a new one. (This smiley, btw, is intended to convey a sense of amusement, so as to not make you believe that I feel you brought a big steak knife to -actually- rip people new ones. Just to clarify.)

 

[MissTaken]

In the context that mellian brought the question, yes, a good topic for the forum.

There are a number of trannie BDSMers out there as indicated by some of my surfing on the bdsm personal's sites.

mellian,
Have you checked the yahoo chat groups and munch groups in your area? I know is at least one active munch group with a nice cross section of lifestylers.

 

[Shadowsdream]

I am actually in the serious process of considering a transgender for My minimum four month training before accepting a submissive for a permanent position under the umbrella of My Domination.

Why? Because I adore her and understand the extra difficulties she faces in pre op limbo. Would I choose her simply because she brings a new dimension of sexuality to Me? No...I would choose her because she brings what appears at this time to be a deep and honest submission that I find attractive.

Would I turn down her application simply because her orientation is transgender...not bloody likely....only a lack of what I feel is authentic submission is an automatic..."I don't think so"

W/we are all complex individuals in one way or another even in O/our simplest moments. Tolerance, acceptance and delight in O/our differences is where I find the magic.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Here, let me personalize it for you.

Let's say I'm poster A. I actually AM biracial. I was raised by TWO white parents.. that's right.. adopted in addition to being biracial and living in a lily white town.

And yet, somehow, I don't get all bitter and bitchy if someone thinks they're funny.

Does it really help to attack everyone on the place because ONE person said something you didn't think was funny? Cause if I'd had the idiocy to attempt to fight every person that called me a nigger, I'd be in jail for attempted homicide of a town of 800.

Seriously. Get over yourself. There are way better battles to fight than a non-existent insult from a group of people who aren't trying to make fun of you. Oversensitive much?

Let me ask you...don't you think it would be funnier if you were like half-Jewish and half German-Irish Catholic? I mean, you have to have some sort of real contradiction going on, or else there's no joke. I mean, the retard example that bridgeburner gave isn't funny, since racial stuff is sort of arbitrary anyways, especially if you are biracial.(I know, I'm the world's whitest Puerto-Rican...the closest I get to Hispanic culture is Taco Bell, which is actually worse than no culture at all, since that is fake-Mexican...)

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Oh, wait, I almost forgot..." "...is everybody happy now?

 

[Pure]

Etoile said,

mellian, I have a question for you.

What response were you hoping for when you posted this thread? What was your motivation for posting it?


Etoile, I have a question for you:

What was your motivation is posting the following more than 500 times?

//I choose to label myself a submissive dyke slutgrrl. I might also be called pansexual or omnisexual; I am in a long-term relationship with my girlfriend of six years, and I also have a multi-year relationship with my Daddy, who lives in another town. //
----

Turning to another important issue

Johnny Mayberry in 12-29-02 posted,
12-29-02 Thread: "Someone please explain the male mind." {on guys who try to get laid, first date}

JM:

No, I'm really one of those nice guys, I swear!!! Actually, I'm just so used to not getting any sex that i usually masturbate twice before a date...imagine my horror when a woman is actually willing to give me sex, and I'm trying for my 4th orgasm of teh evening...at least I don't go off immediately!
----

What do you suppose his motivation was? Was it more a desire to be liked? or perhaps a desire to brag? or just to type something in the refractory period before his 6th jerkoff?

It seems to me posters have a number of motives: attempting to make friends, sometimes to inform, sometimes to complain, sometimes to seek advice, sometimes to draw attention, maybe sympathy.

We can never know the motives. So unless there's evidence of malice, of trying to break lit rules, e.g., by making threats, it seems pointless to inquire into them. OR, if you want to quiz mellian on his {correction: 'her'}motives for a posting with possibly a bit of a desire for understanding regarding some difficulties, why not also inquire into the motives of Mayberry who's posted a dozen "funny" provocations in reply?

And incidentally, what was your motivation for inquiring into mellian's?????

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Pure, you should look up "self-deprecating humor"..and, of course, I am flattered that you study my every post. I hope you have learned something...



...but since you haven't figured out self-deprecating humor, I'm guessing you haven't learned a whole heck of a lot.

 

[Johnny Mayberry]

Oh, and don't forget "hyperbole", while you are at it...do I need to teach Humor 101 here? Watch a couple of Monty Python movies and listen to a David Cross CD, and get back to me...