Trained to Come

[Etoile]

Well, Etoile, I'm not Panache, but I also suffer from anxiety/panic disorder as well as clinical depression, although I've been off of medication for several years now. At some point in my life, I've been on just about every medication they have, except for the new ones - haven't been medicated in about 7-8 years by choice because I chose to go a more natural route that works for me. Have you talked to your doctor about this? There are several medications that you can try that may not have the same effect. Just because you have this disorder does not mean that you shouldn't be able to achieve orgasm. I know it can be difficult to talk to your doctor about, but you won't know if you don't try. Good luck.

Hello

I'm actually pretty happy with my current medication regimen. I have also been on several meds - six or seven - but the combination of Wellbutrin and Celexa is best for me. If I go without the Celexa for a long time, my overall panic level increases to about 6 (on a scale to 10) but when I'm on it I'm around a 3. I can skip it for a couple of days before I start creeping up the scale, so I do okay with getting orgasms when I want them.

 

[Etoile]

I need to clarify my statement about my abhorance of drugs, while I do absolutely abhor ILLEGAL drugs, I heartily endorse physician prescribed drugs for their obvious medicinal benefits. I also understand some of the undesireable side effectsof them.

Ah! Okay then. When I had said medication, that was what I was referring to - although illegal drugs certainly also have effects on libido/orgasm, I was wondering if any of those you had taught to orgasm on command had been on prescribed medications. Were they?

 

[AngelicAssassin]

I would like to give my thoughts on this subject

For a submissive this is an exciting way of showing/proving her submission and in my case a get pleasure but be aware of the problems that can arise

Good to see you back and posting. As for the problems that may arise, one works through them, regardless. And just to muddy the water a little further, the submissive's partner can run into issues as well; been there, done that, burned the t-shirt.

 

[Unicam]

Been there, done that, loved it

For some months, I had a beautiful time in a 24/7 relationship with my now ex-wife. Because she's a switch, she started to discover her Dominant side which kinda ruined the 24/7 thing.
Before this happened and she was purely submissive to me (let's call it the goodl old days), she could orgasm on command. At first she was able to hold it until I gave her permission to do so, but we started to experiment in her cumming anywhere and anytime by giving her a keyword. I think this is something you're either able to do or you're not, but fortunately my ex was able to do this and we had a lot of fun using this feature when we were shopping, eating out, you name it. A huge kick and loads of fun for the both of us.
Using one of those remote controlled egg-shaped vibrating thingies didn't hurt either

 

[teresawrites2u]

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[BeachGurl2]

Everyone for contributing... we've been experimenting a little our self’s and I find that when he tells me to cum that I'll almost hurt myself trying. The upside is that it's really brought down a lot of walls and let me be more....

For me, this wasn't something that I could just make happen. It developed over time and only occurred in two specific relationships. And for me it was more a voice thing at first, but got to the point that email worked, too. My advice to you would be like the pitching advice in that movie Bull Durham, when Susan Sarandon tells the pitcher, "Don't think, just throw". Just let yourself go, be in the moment. If you're concentrating on making yourself cum, then you're not really "there", if you know what I mean. Relax.

 

[teresawrites2u]

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[dramaqueen47]

A person can be trained to do this, even against their will.

How? I don't see how that could happen.

 

[BeachGurl2]

How? I don't see how that could happen.

I'm not sure I believe that, either.

 

[Kajira Callista]

I'm not sure I believe that, either.

if you allow yourself to be programed to a certain phrase or whatever floats your boat....im betting you get the same reaction as always only with the humiliation factor stirred in because it was not something you wanted at the moment.

 

[BeachGurl2]

if you allow yourself to be programed to a certain phrase or whatever floats your boat....im betting you get the same reaction as always only with the humiliation factor stirred in because it was not something you wanted at the moment.

I can understand that aspect of it. It's the training part that I'm not sure I agree could happen against the person's will.

 

[Kajira Callista]

I can understand that aspect of it. It's the training part that I'm not sure I agree could happen against the person's will.

i think that betticus meant that anyone can be trained to cum on command...and after trained they could be made to do it even if they didnt wanna.

 

[BeachGurl2]

i think that betticus meant that anyone can be trained to cum on command...and after trained they could be made to do it even if they didnt wanna.

That makes more sense. Thanks.

 

[soapstar]

I am so rude I havent read most of this thread and yet I feel compelled to put my 20 cents in. I learned to come on command. It was a gradual learned thing, but the tone of voice eventually could set me off. It is a very Pavlovian response for suggestive, receptive people.

I havent seen him in over two years. I wonder today if I did see him would it still work?

 

[Private_Label]

I can understand that aspect of it. It's the training part that I'm not sure I agree could happen against the person's will.

Well, it is said that someone who does not want to be hypnotized can't be hypnotized. But when you get into differences in what the conscious mind wants and what the sub/un-conscious mind wants, it may be a matter of someone accepting the conditioning because there is a "secret desire" to have it, even if the rational, conscious portion says it is not wanted.

 

[DustyWolfe]

Sometimes coming on command doesn't have be trained. I think with some people it depends on how much power you have in their mind. I did not teach my girl to cum on command, at least not on purpose.
One night I was playing with her nipples and whispered to her "Cum for Daddy" she was absolutely shocked when her body responded and she came for me. I did it to her several more times that night, sometimes while touching her body, sometimes while not touching her at all.
She got to the point where she would smirk and say "At least you can only do it when I'm aroused."
Does that sound like a challenge or what?
We went to a party at midnight rodeo, I managed to make her cum 4 times while sitting in the club without her being touched at all to get aroused, then proceeded to make her cum 10 more times during the ride to a friend's house, at the friend's house, the ride home, and once we got home after she took care of my needs.

 

[Jessalynvix]

Sometimes coming on command doesn't have be trained. I think with some people it depends on how much power you have in their mind. I did not teach my girl to cum on command, at least not on purpose.
One night I was playing with her nipples and whispered to her "Cum for Daddy" she was absolutely shocked when her body responded and she came for me. I did it to her several more times that night, sometimes while touching her body, sometimes while not touching her at all.
She got to the point where she would smirk and say "At least you can only do it when I'm aroused."
Does that sound like a challenge or what?
We went to a party at midnight rodeo, I managed to make her cum 4 times while sitting in the club without her being touched at all to get aroused, then proceeded to make her cum 10 more times during the ride to a friend's house, at the friend's house, the ride home, and once we got home after she took care of my needs.

but it's your voice it just *shiver* does something to me.

 

[kara_CM]

my Master hasn't made me cum yet with his voice but He has such control over me, i can't imagine not doing it when told.

 

[BeachGurl2]

Sometimes coming on command doesn't have be trained. I think with some people it depends on how much power you have in their mind. I did not teach my girl to cum on command, at least not on purpose.

I wasn't trained to cum on command, either. It just happened in a very intense relationship. But once we discovered it, it was fun for both of us to experiment with it in unusual circumstances.

 

[DustyWolfe]

I wasn't trained to cum on command, either. It just happened in a very intense relationship. But once we discovered it, it was fun for both of us to experiment with it in unusual circumstances.

Yeah, it's a lot of fun I love walking with her in a public place and leaning over, whispering into her ear "Cum for Daddy." I'm so evil

 

[BeachGurl2]

Yeah, it's a lot of fun I love walking with her in a public place and leaning over, whispering into her ear "Cum for Daddy." I'm so evil

Well, if she's anything like me, it's fun for her, too.

 

[little-nymphe]

Would like more information please...

i have been interested in this for some time now. my Dom and i have experimented with some of the topics listed below and Wwe believe we have touched the beginnings of possibilities. i see 4 possibly 5 facets here each seperate but each intertwined to a degree.

my basic understanding of the mentioned topics in this thread...

1. Orgasm Control... That in which a Dominant or Domme will require the sub to not cum until given permission.

2. Orgasm Denial... That in which a Dominant or Domme will not permit the sub to cum for lengths of time anywhere from minutes to days to weeks. Sometimes with teasing bringing close and then backing off. Depends on the situation.

3. Cumming on Command... That in which a Dominant or Domme trains/assists the submissive in learning how to cum when the Dom/me commands it. Either by words or touch.

4. Mind Sex (for lack of a better word)... That in which a Dominant or Domme teaches / assists a submissive into a relaxed state where He/She can take the sub into themselves and to another place. (Something the Dominant suggest locations, sensations, being with the submissive in her mind even if they are a great distance apart.

i am interested in all these aspects, but the hardest to find information on the web is number 4. Either one has to buy an unknown possibly less then credible cd or book or there is a total lack of information.

i know that these 4 items of interest are in some way an individual experience. But it would be nice to see some sort of basic instructions / map to help the Dominant and submissive that are just learning these techniques. It is all well and good when a Dominant is experienced in these to take His/Her sub to these 4 items. But when one is not it is quite difficult.

There is also a 5th subject that i heard someone mention in a earlier reply to this thread and that is sub-space. Having never experienced this myself. i would like to see some sort of basic road map to this as well. Because they are all linked in one form or another.

i know i have touched on many different things as i am new to this thread and have also given my Master this link so He can read the good input thus far. i am just hoping for more information then i have already extracted from the information in this thread.

Thank you for taking the time to read my ramblings

 

[lne_iii]

2. Orgasm Control - Training of a sub to reach orgasm only when given permission to do so during a scene. Permission is withheld until the sub reaches a sub-orgasmic peak and usually results in a larger than normal orgasm. This is often done as an exercise in teaching a sub control and personal discipline.

This is something we have been discussing, as I am very excited by her begging me for whatever it is she wants. It humiliates her a bit, which is always fun for us

She's learning quickly, which pleases me...which in turn pleases her. I think we are going to be incorporating this into our play!

 

[13abovethenight]

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[Blushing Bottom]

IMHO this is an urban legend. It is my belief that sub can be trained to not cum but not cum on command.