Why do female subs go through Masters like toilet paper?

[UCE]

Re: CBM You are 100% Correct

A woman who understands her beauty and power can always find someone to get kinky with. And if she uses her brain power too, no man she wants can resist her. And she can have any kind of relationship with him SHE chooses if she is willing to use what she knows to make him behave.

Aside from the fact that women "willing to use what they know" to make a guy "behave" sound like whores cynically selling their souls just so the cute monkey will jump through their hoop--whether said monkey is a natural hoop-jumper or not, I have a more serious problem with this argument.

What about the women who are not born anything close to beautiful? What about women who are fat and ugly and old? Media would have us believe the lie that beautiful women are everwhere, but in an average population, they are relatively rare. I'm just wondering that if what you've described is actually the way the sexes work then what do all the homely women, who no modern man inundated with the modern ideal of the perfect woman is going to want, supposed to do?

I know that the old cliche is true, and even a woman who is grossly unattractive can walk into a bar and get laid, but unlike an attractive woman, the guy will never come around again because he wants to get to know her better. He got his fuck and there's no feminine allure to draw him back, unless he fetishizes her particular brand of ugliness.

Unda. Crucia. Eximius.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: CBM You are 100% Correct

Aside from the fact that women "willing to use what they know" to make a guy "behave" sound like whores cynically selling their souls just so the cute monkey will jump through their hoop--

A tad melodramatic, don't you think?

Eb

 

[DutchmansDomme]

UCE, babydoll

There are at LEAST as many less than ideal men as there are less than ideal women. I see them holding hands at the Walmart ALL the time.

Water seeks its own level. And if more men knew what their level was they wouldn't be so tempted to keep looking behind curtain number 3 for a blind super model.

As far as the "whore" comment, call it what you want, just don't call my number. Men are sexually weak. The dick is like a gear shaft made for driving him in whatever direction I so choose. Women KNOW this. Just thank God for the fact that most are too kind-hearted to use it against you.

I, on the other hand, am an unrepentent opportunist and any fetish or weakness you reveal will return to haunt you. In the form of a whipping, chastity device, or assfucking.

Toodles, darling.

 

[P. B. Walker]

Re: UCE, babydoll

I, on the other hand, am an unrepentent opportunist and any fetish or weakness you reveal will return to haunt you. In the form of a whipping, chastity device, or assfucking.

Toodles, darling.

Yeeeeouuuccchhhh!

PBW

 

[zipman]

Re: UCE, babydoll

There are at LEAST as many less than ideal men as there are less than ideal women. I see them holding hands at the Walmart ALL the time.

Water seeks its own level. And if more men knew what their level was they wouldn't be so tempted to keep looking behind curtain number 3 for a blind super model.

As far as the "whore" comment, call it what you want, just don't call my number. Men are sexually weak. The dick is like a gear shaft made for driving him in whatever direction I so choose. Women KNOW this. Just thank God for the fact that most are too kind-hearted to use it against you.

I, on the other hand, am an unrepentent opportunist and any fetish or weakness you reveal will return to haunt you. In the form of a whipping, chastity device, or assfucking.

Toodles, darling.

While there was quite a lot to disagree with on this thread, I think this post was the most off-base. I didn't reply to this thread originally, because I didn't like the way the premise was worded. All sub women are not this way.

But CBM and then DutchmansDomme continued with overgeneralizations, which can never be right because they don't take into account the magnificent diversity which is mankind. Men and women aren't two categories, they are two equally complex and diverse sexes, each comprised of a broad spectrum of ideas and behaviors.

DutchmansDomme saying that she can turn any man's fetish or weakness into an opportunity to dominate him is the same as my saying that all women are essentially submissive by nature. Each one is an over generalization and each one is inherently wrong because of it.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: UCE, babydoll

There are at LEAST as many less than ideal men as there are less than ideal women. I see them holding hands at the Walmart ALL the time.

Water seeks its own level. And if more men knew what their level was they wouldn't be so tempted to keep looking behind curtain number 3 for a blind super model.

As far as the "whore" comment, call it what you want, just don't call my number. Men are sexually weak. The dick is like a gear shaft made for driving him in whatever direction I so choose. Women KNOW this. Just thank God for the fact that most are too kind-hearted to use it against you.

I, on the other hand, am an unrepentent opportunist and any fetish or weakness you reveal will return to haunt you. In the form of a whipping, chastity device, or assfucking.

Toodles, darling.

Precisely.

People who know what they want, stand a much better chance at getting it. Men use women's weaknesses to their advantage just as much as women use men's weaknesses.

Sometimes the hunter gets captured by the game. It is glorious that both can be either.


Eb

 

[DutchmansDomme]

zipman, sweetie

Your opinion and my opinion - "equally complex and diverse."

Judge not lest you be judged and found lacking. It is far better to have a view rather than just a take on someone else's.

 

[zipman]

Re: zipman, sweetie

Your opinion and my opinion - "equally complex and diverse."

Judge not lest you be judged and found lacking. It is far better to have a view rather than just a take on someone else's.

For the record, I have never been found lacking, sweetie

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: UCE, babydoll

While there was quite a lot to disagree with on this thread, I think this post was the most off-base. I didn't reply to this thread originally, because I didn't like the way the premise was worded. All sub women are not this way.

But CBM and then DutchmansDomme continued with overgeneralizations, which can never be right because they don't take into account the magnificent diversity which is mankind. Men and women aren't two categories, they are two equally complex and diverse sexes, each comprised of a broad spectrum of ideas and behaviors.

DutchmansDomme saying that she can turn any man's fetish or weakness into an opportunity to dominate him is the same as my saying that all women are essentially submissive by nature. Each one is an over generalization and each one is inherently wrong because of it.

I have to say that most of what anyone posts here is a generalization or some sort.

I did not take the same view as you did, zip.

But I am a woman who is a dominant, and I have a different point of view. And maybe she can turn all men's weaknesses against them. Perspective is everything.

Eb

 

[P. B. Walker]

I will dominate you all!!!! <EVILLLL LAUGGGHHH>



<winks>

PBW "Flame on!"

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: zipman, sweetie

For the record, I have never been found lacking, sweetie

Now that is something I totally can believe, LOL

Eb

 

[DutchmansDomme]

Zip, sweetest

Careful what you reveal. I now know (as if I didn't already - chuckle) that you are unnecessarily proud of your little wee wee. LOL

Please stop while you are ahead. Tender little mice are this Wicked Kitty's specialty. And you are scarely more than the cold fries at the bottom of a Happy Meal.

 

[zipman]

Re: Re: Re: UCE, babydoll

I have to say that most of what anyone posts here is a generalization or some sort.

I did not take the same view as you did, zip.

But I am a woman who is a dominant, and I have a different point of view. And maybe she can turn all men's weaknesses against them. Perspective is everything.

Eb

Eb,

I don't think everything posted here is an overgeneralization. How would you respond if a Dom on this board seriously thought they could turn you back into a sub. I hazard to guess that you would not agree with them.

I stated my opinion and am fine with you having a different one. But I do feel that overgeneralizations like the ones made on this thread by Doms and Dommes alike have been wrong, and I disagree with them.

JMHO

 

[P. B. Walker]

Re: Zip, sweetest

Careful what you reveal. I now know (as if I didn't already - chuckle) that you are unnecessarily proud of your little wee wee. LOL

Please stop while you are ahead. Tender little mice are this Wicked Kitty's specialty. And you are scarely more than the cold fries at the bottom of a Happy Meal.

DD... fess up... you are really my great aunt Edna, aren't you?


I believe it's easier to say you just disagree with someone, rather than try to start a shit-storm. JMHO.

I think we can all agree that telling someone to stop while they are ahead is not going to make them stop. And following that with insults pretty much ensures that they will in fact respond.

And while I'm sure you feel you are a dominant person in real life and may or may not have people differ to you in your everyday activities, you can't expect the same to be true of us. I think you need to step back and realize that you have to treat us like everyday normal human beings (well most of us), or else you will just invite flames and insults.

PBW

 

[Ebonyfire]

Re: Re: Re: Re: UCE, babydoll

I don't think everything posted here is an overgeneralization. How would you respond if a Dom on this board seriously thought they could turn you back into a sub. I hazard to guess that you would not agree with them.

No, I would laugh. Zip, I don't know if you remember, but that has been said to me in this forum several times. I just laugh and say whatever.

I know you will post your opinion, and so shall I. That is not the issue.

Overgeneralizations may be wrong, but they abound here and elsewhere. Shall I start counting them?

Eb

 

[DutchmansDomme]

PBW, my sweet

I think it is easier for little puppies to stay on the porch and not try to run with the big dogs.

But, you must admit controversy is certainly more interesting to read. And you have certainly been glued to this thread tonight, haven't you my darling? LOL

If you will kindly scroll up I'm sure that you will have no trouble locating the origin of this so called "shit-storm." I simply stated my opinion. Apparently, it caused fits of conniption from men who know good and well that they have seen ample proof of what I say in real life. If they want to start with me, then they should expect me to finish with them.

And if it's too hot in the kitchen perhaps you'd like to repair to the den.

 

[zipman]

Re: Zip, sweetest

Careful what you reveal. I now know (as if I didn't already - chuckle) that you are unnecessarily proud of your little wee wee. LOL

Please stop while you are ahead. Tender little mice are this Wicked Kitty's specialty. And you are scarely more than the cold fries at the bottom of a Happy Meal.

You wrongly assume that you knew what I was referring to with my statement. Nothing ot do with Penis size, I was just referring to your quote.

Interesting that you used the typical female insult of making fun of a man's penis size. I would have expected much more from you.

Then again, braggart's rarely can "back it up."

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Re: Re: UCE, babydoll

While there was quite a lot to disagree with on this thread, I think this post was the most off-base. I didn't reply to this thread originally, because I didn't like the way the premise was worded. All sub women are not this way.

But CBM and then DutchmansDomme continued with overgeneralizations, which can never be right because they don't take into account the magnificent diversity which is mankind. Men and women aren't two categories, they are two equally complex and diverse sexes, each comprised of a broad spectrum of ideas and behaviors.

DutchmansDomme saying that she can turn any man's fetish or weakness into an opportunity to dominate him is the same as my saying that all women are essentially submissive by nature. Each one is an over generalization and each one is inherently wrong because of it.

Next time I will conduct a double blind study drawn from a random sampling of 2000 or so participants so as to minimize bias. After collecting and analyzing the data and appropriate peer review in all of the usual journals, I'll submit my post to Lit.

 

[DutchmansDomme]

Zip, dear

Please DO TELL exactly what you were referring to with your comment about not lacking and the lacivious grin on the smiley you chose.

You, the whole world and I ALL know what you were talking about baby boy.

And weren't you the one who was on here bellyaching about generalizations just a handful of minutes ago? But suddenly you can open your mouth to say "Interesting that you used the typical female insult...."

Darling, are these laughs for free or do I owe you some money? Oh wait, that might make you a whore. LOL

 

[P. B. Walker]

Re: PBW, my sweet

I think it is easier for little puppies to stay on the porch and not try to run with the big dogs.

But, you must admit controversy is certainly more interesting to read. And you have certainly been glued to this thread tonight, haven't you my darling? LOL

If you will kindly scroll up I'm sure that you will have no trouble locating the origin of this so called "shit-storm." I simply stated my opinion. Apparently, it caused fits of conniption from men who know good and well that they have seen ample proof of what I say in real life. If they want to start with me, then they should expect me to finish with them.

And if it's too hot in the kitchen perhaps you'd like to repair to the den.

I'm not sure why I bother... it's not a fair fight... but anyway... I'm bored. I'll try to keep it clean since it seems the last time I put a tard in their place, my posts got deleted. You'll notice that I keep track of all the threads here, so please do not flatter yourself DD. And if you think this is controversy, then you haven't been reading the other threads... or for that matter the GB.

I didn't have to scroll far. You stated your option, and then Zipman did. Then you said your opinions were equally complex and diverse. Then ya had to take it that one little stupid step further and say this:

Judge not lest you be judged and found lacking. It is far better to have a view rather than just a take on someone else's.

So, yes I found the source of the shit-storm. You. Duh. Sit and spin on it sweetie-pie.

Yeah, I've seen examples of what you speak. I've also seen examples of men doing the same thing to women. I've also seen the same amount of examples of men and women seeing right thru the kind of things you try to pull. So what's the big fucking deal. Yes there will always be "easy" men for you to take advantage of. Have fun. Go for it. If that's what does it for you, great. I myself, would prefer to find an equal, but that's just me.

I just love to hear people that need to over-generalize about other people just to make themselves seem more normal and more important.

Yeah, I htink I will retire to the Den to watch some football. Bring me a beer. And some chips.

PBW "Generalize that."

 

[Cuckolded_BlK_Male]

Re: Re: Zip, sweetest

... Interesting that you used the typical female insult of making fun of a man's penis size ...

It's interesting that you castigate others for overgeneralizations, and then fire back with one of your own when you feel that your little wee-wee has been slighted. Are you a "*dom*" by any chance? The snippy defensiveness, and especially the hyper-sensitivity about ones endowment (or lack thereof) would seem to indicate that you are.

 

[Freya]

Well DD, you certainly have figured out the art of having a perfectly peaceable thread turn to shit haven't you?

While I do agree with some of your points - and CBM's as well - that women sometimes have the capability of leading men by the penis, this is not always true, and is, in fact, an overgeneralization. It doesn't take into account those men who have more control over themselves than this, or the women who don't have the shark mentality to play this way. You're making assumptions that all women - whether Domme, sub or neither, could use their feminine wiles to gather men up like a stalks of hay and use them as they wish. The first thing wrong with this point is that men are just as capable of that as women. The second part I disagree with is that not all men cave to wiles that easily - some of them actually have brains and a spine. For a man looking to just get fucked, I suppose a reasonably attractive woman could play that easily enough, but in the long term I don't see those games working. But it's a bit of a stretch to assume that all women can and do do this.

Also, just because some body disagrees with you is no reason to start hurling little digs and insults at them. You have the right to your opinion just as they do - I didn't find anything Zip said to you to be rude or out of place, yet you starting making personal comments because he didn't agree with your views. Attack those who attack you, not those who just differ from you.

 

[lark sparrow]

There are plenty of women who "stand by their man" no matter what, even if they are complete lowlifes. Each point has some validity, but is a generalization - a stereotype.

 

[DutchmansDomme]

PBW, you get a D for Effort

Zip actually was crying about something that I said to UCE who called me a "whore" without eliciting any cries of outrage from such a righteous soul as yourself. What a pity.

I guess it is perfectly fine for you to call me a tard, yet you are crying about insults? Darling, please. LOL

 

[DutchmansDomme]

Freya

I was very specific in my qualifications of what kind of woman could wrap a man around her finger.

A woman who understands her beauty and power can always find someone to get kinky with. And if she uses her brain power too, no man she wants can resist her. And she can have any kind of relationship with him SHE chooses if she is willing to use what she knows to make him behave.

And it's a good thing that I don't have to rely on you to define what is offensive to ME. Ain't America Great?