Why do women like anal sex?

[Islander55]

I think the vast majority of penis-owners either do or wish they could.

I think most want to at least try it and I think many women want to try it but are afraid of being considered a slut, etc.

 

[mousberry]

You are the most pathetic attempt at a troll I have seen in a long time, but I'm bored so here a some bread crumbs.

You see this is what I mean. When you and the other men in this thread dismiss my arguments as so ridiculous that they must be a troll, you betray a complete ignorance of actual feminist literature. I don't suppose you think Andrea Dworkin and Catharine MacKinnon are also just trolls as well? And of course you have no obligation to agree with this vein of feminism but to completely disregard what I've said as a big joke is again incredibly ignorant.

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

You see this is what I mean. When you and the other men in this thread dismiss my arguments as so ridiculous that they must be a troll, you betray a complete ignorance of actual feminist literature. I don't suppose you think Andrea Dworkin and Catharine MacKinnon are also just trolls as well? And of course you have no obligation to agree with this vein of feminism but to completely disregard what I've said as a big joke is again incredibly ignorant

You know part of feminism is the fight for women to be allowed to make their own choices, right?

I dismiss your arguments because you literally ignore my point of view which comes directly from personal experience. I call you a troll because you directly insulted me when the conversation got to hard for you. Even in the post that I called you a troll I gave you information that you willfully ignored. You repeatedly ignore people's points of view and then chuck a tantrum when you're called on it.

Seriously, you're the worst kind of feminist. You only pay attention to the parts that make it easy for you to lecture people because you love the sound of your own voice and the sense of superiority. I bet you're a vegan too.

Please fuck off from this thread. No one is enjoying having you here. It was a good thread until you showed up. In future, stick to the threads your interests are aligned with, rather than the ones that tweak your sense of moral outrage.

 

[DaddyLovesKitten]

You are the most pathetic attempt at a troll I have seen in a long time, but I'm bored so here a some bread crumbs.

Actually I think quite highly of myself. I know my positive and negative traits, and worth. Yes Master sodomises me however he treats me in a way that is respectful, caring, considerate and above all everything we do is consensual.

Just because you don't enjoy anal or understand D,/s or M/s relationships doesn't make you right

Popping in. Adding on to the above-

I've been "sodomized" by ladies before with fingers toys and strapons.

I have never felt disrespected by it, if anything, I'm happy that my lady thinks highly enough of me to perform a sexual act that may be mostly for my pleasure. Same as if she were to give me oral sex, actually.

I get a thrill from giving her oral sex but that may not be everyone's experience.

I also don't think this point of view is gender related. I feel women+women couples, men+men couples, anyone on the gender spectrum + their partner, and female+male couples can have this point of view. I believe dislike for anal is represented well by all the genders and also, like for anal is represented as well.

If it is a consenting act it cannot be considered to be demeaning or abusive. I frankly asked for it to be done to me.

In my experiences my partner asked for it to be done to her. Yes, women can and do want this experience.

Especially when the only asshole involved is the one being voluntarily entered. As opposed to the one doing the penetrating.

Fun experience with a gentle and caring partner.

If you can have fun that way, if you can't, then sure, a gentle partner will only make it not abuse. It still may not be fun and you may wish to stop.

but that's normal for lots of sexual acts. I've had partners tell me penis in vagina hurts today, please stop. Medical condition, period pain, whatever it may be.

Doesn't mean it was abuse.

Also, being sodomized anally isn't any more disrespectful than being penetrated vaginally or orally, if done with consent.

I don't see the point in trying to demean and disrespect someone for voluntarily having anal sex.

If we are doing that, I happily volunteer myself as an additional target.

Hey everyone come laugh at the man who takes it up the ass for the right lady.

Isn't he a strange man. Har har har. He must have deep internalized self hate going on.

I can't imagine why else he might enjoy it. Impossibru!

 

[DaddyLovesKitten]

I wish they would be more blunt and say "the risk of having to directly deal with shit is very high". And it is. And when shit happens, you clean up, laugh, and either get back in the mood or do something different.

Being human means dealing with revolting and unsanitary situations.

Being an actual daddy IRL, I dealt with diapers full of shit for two human beings for about 6 years now.

When shit happens you clean it up.

I don't even get fazed. I stopped after the first diarrhea. Now it's just, oh, look, shit. I need more disposable wipes.

You know what you do, is, you clean it up, flush what can be flushed, which for children means almost none of it, ever, dispose of the rest in the garbage, tie the bags, remove from the house.

Butts get washed, lessons get learned, enema devices get purchased sometimes. People get better at avoiding undesired consequences.

Feces is not sexy and I don't want it in my sex life, but if my choices are, an active healthy sex life where sometimes, something embarrassing but very human happens, and a sex life without all risk, I'm choosing door number one.

All sex comes with risk. Risk of pain, risk of injury, risk of trading illnesses. Some come with risk of pregnancy.

It takes minutes and seconds to clean up shit. What you deal with when getting pregnant can cause pain or even death, and it actually has lifelong consequences.

Women can die from getting pregnant, I feel that kind of sex is riskier, and even so, with consent, it cannot be considered abuse.

The consent part makes it not abuse, if she gave consent the entire time. If she removed it any point, okay, there's room to discuss.

But not if it is a willing act. If all women everywhere went on strike and said no anal sex, then you know what, that would be fair.

As soon as one woman raises her hand and says "I would like that done to me please" it is not abuse to grant her request. Is my thesis.

 

[barefootgirl69]

@mousberry

You continue to derail the thread from it's original purpose, why not just leave the thread? You're account, not just your comments here, has been reported.

 

[LMWM321]

I don't suppose you think Andrea Dworkin and Catharine MacKinnon are also just trolls as well? And of course you have no obligation to agree with this vein of feminism but to completely disregard what I've said as a big joke is again incredibly ignorant.

Are you really a fan of Dworkin and MacKinnon?

Given their strong anti-pornography stances (both believe it should be illegal) Literotica seems like a strange place for you to be hanging out.

Not to broaden the discussion too much (then agin, why not? Lot's of conversations veer into other discussions), but do you also share their view that Sex Work shouldn't be legal? ..I would think if it's okay for people to monetize their talent for brutality in sports like MMA, Boxing, Football, etc.. it should likewise be okay for someone to monetize their talent for giving sexual pleasure, which satisfies a basic human desire. There are a LOT of lonely people in the world who don't have an intimacy partner.

 

[UtilityCurve]

I think most want to at least try it and I think many women want to try it but are afraid of being considered a slut, etc.

Huh. I have long thought that the biggest worry women have is that it will be horribly painful. Which says more about their partners than it does anal penetration.

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

Huh. I have long thought that the biggest worry women have is that it will be horribly painful. Which says more about their partners than it does anal penetration.

My biggest worry was mess. I found the idea gross. I subscribed to the idea of "that's an exit not an entrance". Then my ex husband and I started experimenting more. He moved out of his comfort zone for me, so I did the same for him.

Before trying it, pain was a concern but all the research said the same thing, it hurts until you relax into it. Then it's divine.

 

[mousberry]

I dismiss your arguments because you literally ignore my point of view which comes directly from personal experience. I call you a troll because you directly insulted me when the conversation got to hard for you. Even in the post that I called you a troll I gave you information that you willfully ignored. You repeatedly ignore people's points of view and then chuck a tantrum when you're called on it.

You didn't read the thread because the point you made had been made and addressed several times already by others.

You continue to derail the thread from it's original purpose, why not just leave the thread? You're account, not just your comments here, has been reported.

"barefootgirl69" lmao give me a break

I trust you will report all the men who were rude to me as well <3

Given their strong anti-pornography stances (both believe it should be illegal) Literotica seems like a strange place for you to be hanging out.

There are no actors and actresses harmed when writing and reading erotica.

but do you also share their view that Sex Work shouldn't be legal?

"There are a LOT of lonely people in the world who don't have an intimacy partner."

I find this part troubling. You aren't owed sex. Sex isn't a human right. If you don't have sex you will be perfectly fine. I have more sympathy for victims of abuse than lonely men who want to buy human bodies.

 

[piper1985]

Ive met several that its there preference.

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

You didn't read the thread because the point you made had been made and addressed several times already by others.

And you're still right yet we're all wrong and stupid? Fucking hell I've been arguing with a moron

"barefootgirl69" lmao give me a break

I trust you will report all the men who were rude to me as well <3

For keeping on topic and trying to point out where you're off topic? I fucking doubt it!

"There are a LOT of lonely people in the world who don't have an intimacy partner."

I find this part troubling. You aren't owed sex. Sex isn't a human right. If you don't have sex you will be perfectly fine. I have more sympathy for victims of abuse than lonely men who want to buy human bodies

And if a woman chooses sex work then all the more power to them. No-one is owed sex, however loneliness is massive contributer to mental health issues and suicidal ideation. In much of the world sex workers choose to be sex workers and to suggest that they shouldn't be is judgemental and prudish. If you want to be judgemental and prudish you are on the wrong site!

 

[mousberry]

Fucking hell I've been arguing with a moron

however loneliness is massive contributer to mental health issues and suicidal ideation. In much of the world sex workers choose to be sex workers and to suggest that they shouldn't be is judgemental and prudish. If you want to be judgemental and prudish you are on the wrong site!

The mask slips ever so slightly

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

The mask slips ever so slightly

Oh you caught me! I'm a sex worker with a temper!

The way you crop what you reply to is very telling. Crop me saying "Yet you're still right yet we're all wrong and stupid?", and keep me calling you a moron? I'm done feeding the troll.

 

[LMWM321]

@mousberry

I refer you to two studies:

Perceptions of anal sex among women
Enjoyment of anal sex among women

From the studies...

"The geography of the anus makes it a highly pleasurable sex organ: it contains a dense network of sensory nerves that participate with the genitals in the engorgement, muscular tension and contractions of sexual arousal and orgasm."

Also... summarized from the studies...

people with vaginal anatomy who enjoy anal play reported that:

• The unique sensation is pleasurable (38.9%)
• Orgasms feel more intense (27.6%)
• It feels “profoundly intimate and emotional” (18.2%)
• The pleasure feels fuller compared to other types of sexual pleasure (12.5%)
• The taboo associated with it is thrilling (11.6%)
• They can achieve an orgasm from anal touch or stimulation alone (9.2%)

And yet, you are telling ALL of these millions of women that they are too stupid to know better than to enjoy what they enjoy. Hmm..

As for Dworkin and MacKinnon... They seem deeply resentful that human procreation requires there to be an Inserter and Insertee, and seem to think that this necessarily confers power on the one and submission on the other. To their thinking, any form of penetrative sex (oral, anal, and yes.. vaginal) equates with violence and the male penis is an instrument of this violence. Ugh. I'm sorry you've hitched your wagon to them..

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to hate about how men have treated women since the dawn of time, but these two seem to be completely incapable of acknowledging the progress that has been made and the existence of good men.

Instead of these two, maybe read the writings of feminists who have had successful (ie., happy), longstanding relationships with men, and see relationships with men as part of a life well-lived.

Regarding this comment, in response to my remark about legalizing sex work...

"There are a LOT of lonely people in the world who don't have an intimacy partner."

I find this part troubling. You aren't owed sex. Sex isn't a human right. If you don't have sex you will be perfectly fine. I have more sympathy for victims of abuse than lonely men who want to buy human bodies.

Yes, technically, you don't need sex to live. Nor does one need laughter. And, come to thing of it, one doesn't really need companionship. But life with neither of those, just like a life without sex (for those who desire it), isn't much of a life. Indeed people who don't have sex have more health problems and die younger. Loneliness will do that...

And I don't believe in the purchasing of bodies, I won't dignify that idiotic remark with a response.

 

[mousberry]

@mousberry

Perceptions of anal sex among women

Enjoyment of anal sex among women

From the studies...

"The geography of the anus makes it a highly pleasurable sex organ: it contains a dense network of sensory nerves that participate with the genitals in the engorgement, muscular tension and contractions of sexual arousal and orgasm."

Also... summarized from the studies...

people with vaginal anatomy who enjoy anal play reported that:

• The unique sensation is pleasurable (38.9%)
• Orgasms feel more intense (27.6%)
• It feels “profoundly intimate and emotional” (18.2%)
• The pleasure feels fuller compared to other types of sexual pleasure (12.5%)
• The taboo associated with it is thrilling (11.6%)
• They can achieve an orgasm from anal touch or stimulation alone (9.2%)

And yet, you are telling ALL of these millions of women that they are too stupid to know better than to enjoy what they enjoy. Hmm..

I mean I've already agreed that anal sex can be pleasurable and people seem to forget the many times where I've said myself that I have enjoyed anal in the past. My point was that it is impossible conceive of any sexual act outside of sub/dom dynamics regardless of what people say they feel, and given the nature of anal sex, being inevitably unsanitary and quite often painful and uncomfortable, you can't pretend that anal is somehow exempt from these rules. People can say what they like about it being equitable but I don't buy it.

The little I've read seems to suggest they subscribe to a rather extreme feminist dogma that asserts that any form of penetrative sex (oral, anal, and yes.. vaginal) is regarded as sexual violence and the male penis as a sexual weapon.

Yes, I agree with this. But it's fine. I said in other words before that I believe that all of life is stained by this kind of abuse and while I don't like it, it's just life and I have to get on with it. I think my first post in this thread was disagreeing with a man presenting anal as some kind of selfless act and a gift for any lucky and willing woman which rubbed me the wrong way.

And I feel like if this argument was presented to any rational person they would have to agree with it. The only valid point of contention that I see is the degree to which it matters. For example existing as a white person in the west you will have directly benefitted from the suffering and abuse of others, which is undeniable, but how much guilt you feel from that is up to you.

 

[LMWM321]

Yes, I agree with this. But it's fine. I said in other words before that I believe that all of life is stained by this kind of abuse and while I don't like it, it's just life and I have to get on with it. I think my first post in this thread was disagreeing with a man presenting anal as some kind of selfless act and a gift for any lucky and willing woman which rubbed me the wrong way.

And I feel like if this argument was presented to any rational person they would have to agree with it. The only valid point of contention that I see is the degree to which it matters. For example existing as a white person in the west you will have directly benefitted from the suffering and abuse of others, which is undeniable, but how much guilt you feel from that is up to you.

When has anyone said that anal was a selfless gift a man gives a woman? Again... A straw man argument. Which, if you're not familiar with the term, means you're winning an argument without an opponent. ..Again, NO ONE is saying anal is gift. And if they are... then yes, that person is an idiot.

And quit conflating sexual dynamics with racism. It's like you're saying anyone who opposes racism MUST agree with your statements about sexual dynamics. Which is ridiculous. I detest racism (look for my posts about BBC and Bull Porn) but I totally disagree with your belief that no self-respecting, enlightened woman can enjoy anal stimulation for it's own sake.

 

[mousberry]

And quit conflating sexual dynamics with racism. It's like you're saying anyone who opposes racism MUST agree with your arguments about sexual dynamics. Which is ridiculous. I fucking detest racism (look for my posts about BBC and Bull Porn) but I totally disagree with your belief that no self-respecting, enlightened woman can enjoy anal stimulation for its own sake.

I'm sorry but if you think you can possibly have a relationship without of any kind of social dynamic then I don't think there is much more for me to say.

 

[Islander55]

Huh. I have long thought that the biggest worry women have is that it will be horribly painful. Which says more about their partners than it does anal penetration.

I suspect for many women it is. If they are not prepped right and that first time can be difficult until you realize you need to relax those muscles and not tighten them. Then too I suspect a lot of first time anal is a guy jamming his cock in her ass in a spur of the moment.

 

[dkak001]

@MissMaidenMinx and @LMWM321 You're still arguing with her?
Maybe resist the urge to giver what she really craves.
Attention...

 

[liqueur]

Somebody let me know when the debate is over. I'll come back then.

 

[idocnc]

The first time anal it was horrible.

We learned how to foreplay with my asshole and I found I like it.

I like that it's naughty and that most women won't do it.

Playing with a married friend one morning and he accidentally pulled out of my pussy. When he lined back up, how was on my asshole. I told him yes. He pushed in, as I pushed back onto him.
It was only the second time.

My favorite was a college graduate last year.
I was 57, he was 24 - just finished his Masters degree.
I invited him to fuck my ass. I was his first. I wanted to be sure he never forgets me.

Lucky guy! He won't forget you.

 

[mousberry]

@MissMaidenMinx and @LMWM321 You're still arguing with her?
Maybe resist the urge to giver what she really craves.
Attention...

Boomer men reflexively come up with these misogynistic insults when women do something they don't like. Please contribute to the discussion next time.

 

[MissMaidenMinx]

@MissMaidenMinx and @LMWM321 You're still arguing with her?
Maybe resist the urge to giver what she really craves.
Attention...

Oh I'm done.

 

[LMWM321]

@MissMaidenMinx and @LMWM321 You're still arguing with her?
Maybe resist the urge to giver what she really craves.
Attention...

I get your point. ..I suppose I don't tire easily when engaged in such debates and, truth be told, I happen to find threads about sexuality - including sexual ethics - more interesting than threads meant mostly for titalation. So I'll continue debating so long as it doesn't devolve into mere name-calling. ..I don't mind a little bit of it but if it becomes just that, well... I lose interest. Those who are more interested in graphic stories, *.gifs and *.jpgs can find those in several other threads about anal sex.

In slight defense of @mousberry, the depictions of anal sex in Porn are mostly fucking horrific and do suggest that its appeal stems mostly from humiliation and anger. Usually there's a woman wincing in pain, and a douche-bag dude looming over her with a menacing look on his face, as if he's punishing her. Fucking gross. My experience with the act looks nothing like that.

Porn is a terrible publicist for sex, with anal being the worst example. BJ's are a close second with all the gagging and head trapping. Also fucking gross and also bearing little resemblance to what BJ's look like in my life.