Female centric stories

[Kumquatqueen]

I don't know if it's still the case, but I believe that at one point, it was mandatory at some publishing houses for all romance authors to use female pen names

The more traditional collections from Mills & Boon had that as a rule, along with how much physical contact was allowed before a couple were together and married. Then they introduced newer collections with women getting more agency and sex before marriage becoming the norm.

 

[Mastered_again]

We can endlessly debate the nuances of female centric stories.
What's important is that my old man is female centric in bed.
By definition, that is the perspective of just one woman

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

If your answer to the question "What is this story about?" stats with "It's about a woman who..." it's female centric.

My own first assumption went like this: 'If your answer to the question "What is this story about?" starts with "It's for women who..." then it's female centric.'

Which is a much thornier issue than stories about women.

It's actually a very worthwhile discussion, I think (despite the risks of being reductive). I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that men and women having different bodies is going to lead to some pretty distinct differences: differences that have had about 300,000 years of human history to develop and embed themselves deeply and weirdly into our cultures.

If the main part of the clitoris was located inside the vagina, say, instead of where it is, or if men reached orgasm only 18.4% of the time during penetrative sex, then I'm sure the world would be a very different place indeed.

Which is just to say that, while the differences between women might be so vast as to make the topic almost meaningless, my hunch is that some stories can in fact speak more directly to women than to men - just in theory. In practice of course, millions of men are going to be fascinated by those stories too, because men are interested in women and because men are humans too.

It's an issue that is so large that it becomes both essential and meaningless.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Women only reach climax 18.4% of the time on average? Wow. I need to be more appreciative of my men. They get me off more than that.

 

[liliput1]

You've cracked the code, I think all that really matters on the forum is if the threads are 'so and so centric' and dominated by the same small group that has to crash every thread regardless of topic and immediately make it about jokes or themselves and start conversations between each other in the middle of other conversations.

When that happens, all is well here. Discussions are allowed as long as they exist in between and around the more important people's antics and posts.

But @KittyOfSteele is right, a lot of spinning wheels with no real answer because more often than not the only right answer is what's right for the individual author and no one can tell you otherwise. If something someone said here resonates with you, that's fine, if not it's all noise

When certain people make absolutist statements and are unfazed by criticism, what’s left to say?

 

[liliput1]

Nobody said you can't write it, or that you shouldn't write it.

I think there are at least five people in thread who have accused you of repeatedly doing what you said you aren’t doing, including me, and maybe you need to review your tone if this is how you communicate.

All I said is I think I could tell it was written by a guy. That's not telling you what to do. And I softened my view once other people said you can study and learn without experiencing things directly. I had not considered that and I stand corrected.

No, you fucking didn’t. You reduced all of male experience to a handful of options that make me worry about the two men you say you have.

 

[lovecraft68]

If the main part of the clitoris was located inside the vagina, say, instead of where it is, or if men reached orgasm only 18.4% of the time during penetrative sex, then I'm sure the world would be a very different place indeed.
less.

That is not the case here. You look through the personals, fetish, playground or any forum a lot of flirting goes on and you will see that every single man here lives for the woman's pleasure! Any lady lucky enough to be with them will cum and cum again! They will eat pussy until their jaw locks!

And those posts are some of the most farfetched stories on this site.

 

[lovecraft68]

When certain people make absolutist statements and are unfazed by criticism, what’s left to say?

What can men do in the face of such reckless hate?

Sorry, that's my favorite LOTR quote, I use it whenever I can.

But the answer is nothing. Especially when you have two absolute statements
No, you can't
Yes, you can
Nu-uh!
Yuh huh!

 

[lovecraft68]

Well, although this thread has been a little contentious at points its been fairly civil and not personal.

But I see the clique is beginning to circle wagons and decide who they want to target.

 

[Annabelle1990]

I think there are at least five people in thread who have accused you of repeatedly doing what you said you aren’t doing, including me, and maybe you need to review your tone if this is how you communicate.

No, you fucking didn’t. You reduced all of male experience to a handful of options that make me worry about the two men you say you have.

I did say men are simple creatures when it comes to sex, but then I acknowledged later that part of my perspective might be that I can be a pampered selfish brat who does not always think about the specifics of what men want. The rest of that - no I did not say you should not try. I just said good luck. And even there admitted later that my perspective might be wrong and that it might be possible to study experiences you cannot feel.

And if you are getting us off 18.4% of the time when you get off 100% of the time, I would think that helps to validate my point.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Well, although this thread has been a little contentious at points its been fairly civil and not personal.

But I see the clique is beginning to circle wagons and decide who they want to target.

Yes they are. But I may deserve some of it.

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

Women only reach climax 18.4% of the time on average? Wow. I need to be more appreciative of my men. They get me off more than that.

Do they get you off 92.4% of the time?

Because that's what the number goes up to for masturbation alone. 18.4% is the number for only penetrative sex. Apparently.

Personally, I think a decent argument can be made that this disparity - the difference between 18.4% and 92.4% - means that female-centric stories do exist.

 

[Annabelle1990]

SOME, mind you - not all.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Do they get you off 92.4% of the time?

Because that's what the number goes up to for masturbation alone. 18.4% is the number for only penetrative sex. Apparently.

Personally, I think a decent argument can be made that this disparity - the difference between 18.4% and 92.4% - means that female-centric stories do exist.

No they don't get me off 92.4% of the time. Don't be ridiculous. But it is a lot higher than 1/5 of the time. And higher doing some things than doing other things.

 

[lovecraft68]

Yes they are. But I may deserve some of it.

Taking exception to your opinion is fine, getting personal and insulting/questioning the men in your life isn't.

 

[Annabelle1990]

Is 92.4% the real male average?

 

[Annabelle1990]

Taking exception to your opinion is fine, getting personal and insulting/questioning the men in your life isn't.

Thank you!

 

[KittyOfSteele]

I wasn't responding so much to the broader discussion than I was to the people who were saying that they didn't even understand what the term means.

To be honest I would rather for things to be that simple all the time, because the moment people start presenting information, the more confused I get.

As far as I can tell anyone is entitled to their opinion, and my opinion is that people are far too complex to reduce them into a single archetype, hence I hate anything that boils gender to a bunch of traits 50% of the population has when, in reality, the other 50% of the population also has them. I know that because I'm switching between both sides 24/7.

 

[lovecraft68]

Is 92.4% the real male average?

I think that number was in reference to women, but taking masturbation into account.

I would guess men get off almost all the time unless you're dealing with ED or another health issue or the infamous whiskey/Coke dick.

 

[Annabelle1990]

I think that number was in reference to women, but taking masturbation into account.

I would guess men get off almost all the time unless you're dealing with ED or another health issue or the infamous whiskey/Coke dick.

Oh. I could see that. Oral gets me off pretty easily too. And dp of course does.

 

[Mastered_again]

And if you are getting us off 18.4% of the time when you get off 100% of the time, I would think that helps to validate my popoint.

18.4%? Not from my perspective. Must be a lot of zero percenters out there blowing the curve.

 

[MelissaBaby]

My own first assumption went like this: 'If your answer to the question "What is this story about?" starts with "It's for women who..." then it's female centric.'

Which is a much thornier issue than stories about women.

It's actually a very worthwhile discussion, I think (despite the risks of being reductive). I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that men and women having different bodies is going to lead to some pretty distinct differences: differences that have had about 300,000 years of human history to develop and embed themselves deeply and weirdly into our cultures.

If the main part of the clitoris was located inside the vagina, say, instead of where it is, or if men reached orgasm only 18.4% of the time during penetrative sex, then I'm sure the world would be a very different place indeed.

Which is just to say that, while the differences between women might be so vast as to make the topic almost meaningless, my hunch is that some stories can in fact speak more directly to women than to men - just in theory. In practice of course, millions of men are going to be fascinated by those stories too, because men are interested in women and because men are humans too.

It's an issue that is so large that it becomes both essential and meaningless.

Thanks for your perspective. Every story I have written has a female protagonist, but all were written for a general audience. I don't doubt that some may appeal more to women than to men, but none have been written with that intention.

 

[lovecraft68]

18.4%? Not from my perspective. Must be a lot of zero percenters out there blowing the curve.

I suspect the rise in porn correlates to the decrease in young men thinking they're supposed to do something besides cum.

 

[GuiltyCowboy]

Is 92.4% the real male average?

No, it's higher for men.

Women:
18.4% - orgasm during only penetrative sex
65% - orgasm during partnered sex (ie intercourse with clitoral stimulation, so more than just penetration)
92.4% - orgasm during masturbation

Men:
95% - orgasm during only penetrative sex, during more complex intercourse, during masturbation.

(Apparently, if men want to take that up to 100% then they'll want to receive anal...)

Stats: https://pleasurebetter.com/orgasm-statistics/

 

[Mastered_again]

I suspect the rise in porn correlates to the decrease in young men thinking they're supposed to do something besides cum.

The benefits of age and staring down 70