Fuck It: Refux

Story time.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Long story cut to shreads.
I had been single for several years, a mate of mine and his mrs, decided that the three of us were going on holiday and 'we' were going to find me a date while we were on holiday. So on holiday in the clubhouse I spotted a girl, me being too shy mates mrs asked her for me, sat me down at a table and said talk to her, so I did, after a few minutes her mate sat next to us. Little odd I thought, first girl (H) said "this is my best mate (L) we do everything together you don't mind" So I said sure she can stay, I didn't want to lose H on first contact, so we keep meeting up in like this for the remainder of holiday. Arranged to meet up afterwards, she only lived a short drive from where I lived, lucky. So I go for first date, got there and they had swapped, so I was now on a date with L, they explained that H had a boyfriend but L was shy, I understood that, I thought what the hell I'll go for it, hoping if it didn't work out with L, I might get a chance with H.
Fast foward a few years me & L get married, H now single. L starts to hint about maybe having a threesome with H !
My brain is going haywire, I still fancy H, this means I get 2 for 1 deal whoop whoop. Now the catch L was lying, she didn't want it at all. But neither me or H knew this, we had always done lots together as a group , pub , parties etc but no sexy time. Fast foward to just before my 40th birthday me and H still flirting heavily with each other but never anything more. Until H offered a kiss and a hug as a warm up to my birthday, a proper passionate kiss, she had been planning with L to give me a BJ on my birthday, L didn't do BJ's. Only thing L got jealous, so the BJ never happened. 😞. Then H started to get really friendly with me, sneanking a quick cuddle or a grope when we could. One night we had a sleepover for our kids and her kids all at our house. So all the kids are asleep upstairs, me and L in our room and H on the sofa downstairs, middle of the night I need to pee, go to bathroom and its occupied, so I go downstairs to the downstairs toilet. H sees me go in, when I come out, she is there waiting for me, we hug, spots something growing opens my robe and grabs him. Little bit of fondling, then we stop, and both agree we shouldn't be doing this.
Few weeks later, L and H are talking, they spoke about everything and I mean everything. H told L about that night,and described it as "the closing thing to sex, without actually having sex". L flipped, but then blamed me and not her best mate, so went through a rough patch to say the least. Just before mother's day I said what do you want from the kids for mother's day, she said I want a divorce, I said fuck I didn't want to spend that much! Turns out H had exaggerated what had happened to try to get me, but L believed her and not me. So divorce happened I said if I known it was going to happen like this I shoulda done it anyway , at least it would have been worth it. L went ballistic (rightly so) L and H had argument, H moved away . I got divorced, lost house & car and get to see kids once a week for a few hours. L and H haven't spoke to each since, H's new boyfriend took me to court for a restraining order, which they got, even though I had no intention of going anywhere near her.
So now you have one of the reasons my brain is so fucked up !
The really stupid thing is I fell proper head over heels in love with H and probably still am, if the opportunity came up I would marry her in a heartbeat, even though I haven't seen her in over 12 years. I knew she was the one. But never to be.
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda.
Thank you for sharing. It sounds like a crazy situation from the start. Hope you've been able to move on from it a little
 
Wifey is now looking at me wondering why I am giggling so much 🤣
 
So... To try and get things a bit more focused

I have questions about multiples. What do we think is the magic number. Does that change from a hookup to a poly situation too?

I get crowded easily so probably wouldn't want more than two people. So a gang bang would be too much. Throuples and polycules interest me because that's not necessarily all at the same time so I think that would depend on how much time and energy you could give.

What do you think?
Playing catch up as I usually am... hope no one minds.

I have had two threesomes... and I have complaints about the three letter threesome abbreviation system. One was me (bi woman), another bi woman, and a man. So, both women were interacting with the man and each other. I don't believe either the FMF or the FFM really describe this accurately. But I digress. The second threesome was an FFM with me, a lesbian, and a man. My only other group experience was a fivesome with two guys and three bi women (myself included). In my limited experience, the threesomes were a bit easier than the fivesome because it was just easier to make sure everyone was feeling included. I would love to have a MFM threesome... preferably with two straight men because I want all the attention damnit. If I had an interested partner, I'd love to have a couples swap with everyone in the same room.

The closest I've come to polyamory was dating a guy and a woman at the same time. It was a triad with me at the point. The woman was also partnered with another woman. There was no thrupple-like activity. Each relationship was distinct and everyone knew about everyone else. I thought it was pretty great. I was going to school in central Ohio, the guy was a couple hours away in NW Ohio, and the woman was about an hour away. It took some planning, but it was great to have time with each of them and then my own time as well.
 
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I have a question, mostly drawn from my own tastes & fuck-it list 😋

I like to think of myself as equal parts Voyeur & Exhibitionist; I could enjoy watching people(s) indulging themselves, or being watched by others as I or me & other people have fun. Both would be thrilling for me personally :devilish:

My question is does anyone else feel this way? How far would you go? Have you already done stuff?
My exhibitionist tendencies are moderately stronger than my voyeur ones. Probably because I'd rather be participating than watching from the sidelines. In a couple of my group sex experiences, there were times when I was being watched. That definitely added another level of excitement for me. I have also posted pics on the boards here. As for how far I would go, I do have a recurring fantasy about being on display while having sex in a club or at a private event. With the right person, I'm pretty confident I'd do that.

I scored quite high on the BDSM test on both of those things. Which is weird cos I'm really shy. Well in public at least.
I consider myself a bit shy too. I'm terrible at small talk and can definitely be awkward. I'd rather have sex on stage (in an appropriate setting) than be trapped for a couple hours at a work conference cocktail party where I know nobody.

In private I enjoy showing off because the trust in the other person has already been established. I also enjoy watching. Again in private. I don't have a lot of interest or desire in people I don't know but someone that I'm attracted to showing themselves to me? Amazing!
I get the biggest turn on from sharing with people I feel some connection to
I like random people liking my pics, but I get more happiness from people I am turned on by liking them
I scored 1% in the Voyeur category and I'm pretty sure it was for things like what a partner did for me a few years ago.

Setting up our Skype video chat so I could watch him shower, shave, and all kinds of good things after. It was exciting and arousing, probably because we both knew what would be happening next. 🥵

Video was good, but real time was so much hotter.
Trust and connection are what allow me to share privately more than I would be comfortable posting publicly.
While the reactions to a pic are appreciated, it's the comments from my friends, platonic and otherwise, that I enjoy the most.
I *love* watching a sexy friend, especially in real time.😍😍😍
 
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Story time.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Long story cut to shreads.
I had been single for several years, a mate of mine and his mrs, decided that the three of us were going on holiday and 'we' were going to find me a date while we were on holiday. So on holiday in the clubhouse I spotted a girl, me being too shy mates mrs asked her for me, sat me down at a table and said talk to her, so I did, after a few minutes her mate sat next to us. Little odd I thought, first girl (H) said "this is my best mate (L) we do everything together you don't mind" So I said sure she can stay, I didn't want to lose H on first contact, so we keep meeting up in like this for the remainder of holiday. Arranged to meet up afterwards, she only lived a short drive from where I lived, lucky. So I go for first date, got there and they had swapped, so I was now on a date with L, they explained that H had a boyfriend but L was shy, I understood that, I thought what the hell I'll go for it, hoping if it didn't work out with L, I might get a chance with H.
Fast foward a few years me & L get married, H now single. L starts to hint about maybe having a threesome with H !
My brain is going haywire, I still fancy H, this means I get 2 for 1 deal whoop whoop. Now the catch L was lying, she didn't want it at all. But neither me or H knew this, we had always done lots together as a group , pub , parties etc but no sexy time. Fast foward to just before my 40th birthday me and H still flirting heavily with each other but never anything more. Until H offered a kiss and a hug as a warm up to my birthday, a proper passionate kiss, she had been planning with L to give me a BJ on my birthday, L didn't do BJ's. Only thing L got jealous, so the BJ never happened. 😞. Then H started to get really friendly with me, sneanking a quick cuddle or a grope when we could. One night we had a sleepover for our kids and her kids all at our house. So all the kids are asleep upstairs, me and L in our room and H on the sofa downstairs, middle of the night I need to pee, go to bathroom and its occupied, so I go downstairs to the downstairs toilet. H sees me go in, when I come out, she is there waiting for me, we hug, spots something growing opens my robe and grabs him. Little bit of fondling, then we stop, and both agree we shouldn't be doing this.
Few weeks later, L and H are talking, they spoke about everything and I mean everything. H told L about that night,and described it as "the closing thing to sex, without actually having sex". L flipped, but then blamed me and not her best mate, so went through a rough patch to say the least. Just before mother's day I said what do you want from the kids for mother's day, she said I want a divorce, I said fuck I didn't want to spend that much! Turns out H had exaggerated what had happened to try to get me, but L believed her and not me. So divorce happened I said if I known it was going to happen like this I shoulda done it anyway , at least it would have been worth it. L went ballistic (rightly so) L and H had argument, H moved away . I got divorced, lost house & car and get to see kids once a week for a few hours. L and H haven't spoke to each since, H's new boyfriend took me to court for a restraining order, which they got, even though I had no intention of going anywhere near her.
So now you have one of the reasons my brain is so fucked up !
The really stupid thing is I fell proper head over heels in love with H and probably still am, if the opportunity came up I would marry her in a heartbeat, even though I haven't seen her in over 12 years. I knew she was the one. But never to be.
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda.
Thanks for sharing your story with us. That was quite a convoluted path and it's clear that you're still feeling the repercussions. I wish you clarity as you move forward. 🌷
 
I have a question, mostly drawn from my own tastes & fuck-it list 😋

I like to think of myself as equal parts Voyeur & Exhibitionist; I could enjoy watching people(s) indulging themselves, or being watched by others as I or me & other people have fun. Both would be thrilling for me personally :devilish:

My question is does anyone else feel this way? How far would you go? Have you already done stuff?
So if we’re going off BDSM test results I think I actually scored pretty low on both (low-mid 40 percentile I believe) and while I’ve dabbled with playing publicly and enjoyed it. I’m actually quite shy in most scenarios and don’t typically like showing off.

What I will say is there are exceptions to every rule; I love sharing and showing off funishments, and particularly naughty things I may have done. But only with a select group of people. Posting in AmPics gives me heart palpitations. Showing a friend my red, welted bottom from a proper spanking? 😍🥰 Now that sends me over the moon. So I guess with a private and curated audience I actively enjoy exhibitionism.

Maybe one day I’ll be brave enough to post pics but currently it would take an act of god to get me past my nerves and allow me to post and share publicly. Maybe it’s just I haven’t found the right setting or medium to do so, or just haven’t discovered the niche in which I would get a lot of enjoyment from being seen and watched. I’m curious about doing it more though, just unsure of how to start without overthinking, worrying, panicking, etc 😅
 
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So if we’re going off BDSM test results I think I actually scored pretty low on both (low-mid 40 percentile I believe) and while I’ve dabbled with playing publicly and enjoyed it. I’m actually quite shy in most scenarios and don’t typically like showing off.

What I will say is there are exceptions to every rule; I love sharing and showing off funishments, and particularly naughty things I may have done. But only with a select group of people. Posting in AmPics gives me heart palpitations. Showing a friend my red, welted bottom from a proper spanking? 😍🥰 Now that sends me over the moon. So I guess with a private and curated audience I actively enjoy exhibitionism.

Maybe one day I’ll be brave enough to post pics but currently it would take an act of god to get me past my nerves and allow me to post and share publicly. Maybe it’s just I haven’t found the right setting or medium to do so, or just haven’t discovered the niche in which I would get a lot of enjoyment from being seen and watched. I’m curious about doing it more though, just unsure of how to start without overthinking, worrying, panicking, etc 😅
I am inclined to argue that isn't exhibitionism, but is a relationship. I would think exhibitionism requires public, or strangers, or at least operating under the assumption that the general public or stranger may be present, so I'd think the lower percentage is likely accurate.
 
I am inclined to argue that isn't exhibitionism, but is a relationship. I would think exhibitionism requires public, or strangers, or at least operating under the assumption that the general public or stranger may be present, so I'd think the lower percentage is likely accurate.
That’s fair. It’s not a kink I’ve really enjoyed in any dedicated capacity. Even at my local club, I rent a private room if I’m inclined to play. I guess it would be more accurate to say I’m interested in exploring further than I have (masturbating/ fucking in parks, my old office) I’m a hands on learner though and time is an issue lol 😂 who has time to get naughty at the grocery store? How? My logistical brain can’t wrap around it.
 
That’s fair. It’s not a kink I’ve really enjoyed in any dedicated capacity. Even at my local club, I rent a private room if I’m inclined to play. I guess it would be more accurate to say I’m interested in exploring further than I have (masturbating/ fucking in parks, my old office) I’m a hands on learner though and time is an issue lol 😂 who has time to get naughty at the grocery store? How? My logistical brain can’t wrap around it.

Oh, you multitask that :ROFLMAO:
you'd be amazed what you can combine
 
Story time.
Woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Long story cut to shreads.
I had been single for several years, a mate of mine and his mrs, decided that the three of us were going on holiday and 'we' were going to find me a date while we were on holiday. So on holiday in the clubhouse I spotted a girl, me being too shy mates mrs asked her for me, sat me down at a table and said talk to her, so I did, after a few minutes her mate sat next to us. Little odd I thought, first girl (H) said "this is my best mate (L) we do everything together you don't mind" So I said sure she can stay, I didn't want to lose H on first contact, so we keep meeting up in like this for the remainder of holiday. Arranged to meet up afterwards, she only lived a short drive from where I lived, lucky. So I go for first date, got there and they had swapped, so I was now on a date with L, they explained that H had a boyfriend but L was shy, I understood that, I thought what the hell I'll go for it, hoping if it didn't work out with L, I might get a chance with H.
Fast foward a few years me & L get married, H now single. L starts to hint about maybe having a threesome with H !
My brain is going haywire, I still fancy H, this means I get 2 for 1 deal whoop whoop. Now the catch L was lying, she didn't want it at all. But neither me or H knew this, we had always done lots together as a group , pub , parties etc but no sexy time. Fast foward to just before my 40th birthday me and H still flirting heavily with each other but never anything more. Until H offered a kiss and a hug as a warm up to my birthday, a proper passionate kiss, she had been planning with L to give me a BJ on my birthday, L didn't do BJ's. Only thing L got jealous, so the BJ never happened. 😞. Then H started to get really friendly with me, sneanking a quick cuddle or a grope when we could. One night we had a sleepover for our kids and her kids all at our house. So all the kids are asleep upstairs, me and L in our room and H on the sofa downstairs, middle of the night I need to pee, go to bathroom and its occupied, so I go downstairs to the downstairs toilet. H sees me go in, when I come out, she is there waiting for me, we hug, spots something growing opens my robe and grabs him. Little bit of fondling, then we stop, and both agree we shouldn't be doing this.
Few weeks later, L and H are talking, they spoke about everything and I mean everything. H told L about that night,and described it as "the closing thing to sex, without actually having sex". L flipped, but then blamed me and not her best mate, so went through a rough patch to say the least. Just before mother's day I said what do you want from the kids for mother's day, she said I want a divorce, I said fuck I didn't want to spend that much! Turns out H had exaggerated what had happened to try to get me, but L believed her and not me. So divorce happened I said if I known it was going to happen like this I shoulda done it anyway , at least it would have been worth it. L went ballistic (rightly so) L and H had argument, H moved away . I got divorced, lost house & car and get to see kids once a week for a few hours. L and H haven't spoke to each since, H's new boyfriend took me to court for a restraining order, which they got, even though I had no intention of going anywhere near her.
So now you have one of the reasons my brain is so fucked up !
The really stupid thing is I fell proper head over heels in love with H and probably still am, if the opportunity came up I would marry her in a heartbeat, even though I haven't seen her in over 12 years. I knew she was the one. But never to be.
Woulda, Coulda, Shoulda.
I'm not sure how to respond to this even after a night's sleep
My big takeaway would be if she was the one, there wouldn't be a restraining order on you...

I'd try to move on. 12 years is a fuck of a long time to carry a torch for someone who isn't going to give you what you want.

Wouldn't, Couldn't, Shouldn't
 
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