How is all this Republican overreach going to play out in November 2014?

[KRCummings]

Like with most things we can agree to disagree. You can draw your own conclusions form this:

In an interview with Kubrick in the Chicago Tribune, he states…

Yet to view ``Full Metal Jacket`` as an antiwar film is too simplistic, Kubrick said. ``I guess that`s what the producer of `Platoon` said in his Oscar speech—that he hoped they had made a film to end all wars.

``But there may be a fallacy in antiwar films that showing people war is bad will make them less willing to fight a war,`` Kubrick said. `` `Full Metal Jacket` suggests that there is more to say about war than it is just bad.

`The Vietnam war was, of course, horribly wrong from the start, but I think it may have taught us something valuable. We would probably be fighting now in Nicaragua had it not been for Vietnam. I think the message has certainly gotten through that you don`t even begin to think about fighting a war unless your survival depends upon it. Fancy theories about falling dominoes won`t do in the future.``

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/.../8702160471_1_kubrick-full-metal-jacket-joker

So in that he is clearly saying that FMJ is not anti-war and that he doesn't think war is all bad yet you insist he and the movie were anti-war. How the fuck to you get that?

 

[KingOrfeo]

It's the way it has been done from antiquity. The best soldiers in the world are always those who can be stressed beyond their own beliefs and taught to endure. War is a contest of endurance, iron discipline, strategy, and controlled violence. The Marine Corps combat record speaks for itself in this regard.

No doubt. Well, duty calls! Got to get to the drone-control center! And the effin' soda machine is empty again . . . War is Hell!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Is all of that strictly necessary, do you think, to make a soldier?

God damn right.

That is how warriors are made.

You wanna get in line so some screaming stupid bully can make you choke yourself with his hand and threaten to skull-fuck your eye-sockets?! And you have to call the worthless piece of shit "Sir!" at the beginning and end of every sentence, yet?!

Been there...done that.

 

[KRCummings]

No doubt. Well, duty calls! Got to get to the drone-control center! And the effin' soda machine is empty again . . . War is Hell!

Drones will never win wars just like conventional aircraft never have. At some point boots hit the ground. When that happens someone has either been coddled through training and taught that they'll be taken care of and everything will be ok or they'll be the winner.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Is all of that strictly necessary, do you think, to make a soldier?

Almost definitely not, but it's fun.

 

[KRCummings]

God damn right.

That is how warriors are made.



Been there...done that.

It's not even hard after the first week or so. The physical aspects are but the yelling is just another day at the office once you're used to it.

 

[Disgustipated]

So in that he is clearly saying that FMJ is not anti-war and that he doesn't think war is all bad yet you insist he and the movie were anti-war. How the fuck to you get that?

That was my thought. Had To read his post and the article twice. And he's busting on someone about comprehension in another thread.

 

[KRCummings]

Almost definitely not, but it's fun.

If it wasn't necessary it wouldn't be done. Thousands and thousands of years of warfare and training have remained essentially unchanged because it works. Everyone does it. Nowhere in the world will you see armed forces that didn't go through training at least somewhat like our own.

 

[KRCummings]

That was my thought. Had To read his post and the article twice. And he's busting on someone about comprehension in another thread.

He was wrong about the whole thing and was desperate to find something so I'm sure he didn't actually read it. He never does.

 

[Disgustipated]

He was wrong about the whole thing and was desperate to find something so I'm sure he didn't actually read it. He never does.

"I didn't write it or believe it , I just posted it."

 

[KRCummings]

"I didn't write it or believe it , I just posted it."

I feel sorry for the guy. He's obviously losing it and doesn't realize it. Part of me hopes his kids get over hating him and find him a nice place to live out his sunset years and part of me hopes his decline happens right here for all of us to see.

 

[BotanyBoy]

It's not even hard after the first week or so. The physical aspects are but the yelling is just another day at the office once you're used to it.

Just learning to play that game of doing what you're told despite all of the crazy, the yelling and the name calling......just that simple.

 

[Disgustipated]

He was wrong about the whole thing and was desperate to find something so I'm sure he didn't actually read it. He never does.

I feel sorry for the guy. He's obviously losing it and doesn't realize it. Part of me hopes his kids get over hating him and find him a nice place to live out his sunset years and part of me hopes his decline happens right here for all of us to see.

He hates where he lives and said he has to care for someone and can't leave. Who can be more needing of care than him ?

 

[KRCummings]

He hates where he lives and said he has to care for someone and can't leave. Who can be more needing of care than him ?

I don't know but they must be a hot mess if they got Vette looking after them.
I sincerely hope it's not one of his kids. Certainly couldn't be one of his parents. They'd have to be 150 or so. Whoever it is I'm sorry they got old man crazy caring for them.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I feel sorry for the guy. He's obviously losing it and doesn't realize it. Part of me hopes his kids get over hating him and find him a nice place to live out his sunset years and part of me hopes his decline happens right here for all of us to see.

Don't dismiss the ice-floe option.

 

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[renard_ruse]

Just shut the fuck up with the Republiphobic hate bullshit already.

America is over, your Great Leader destroyed it. You should be having a party not spewing more Republiphobic hate.

 

[KingOrfeo]

You should be having a party not spewing more Republiphobic hate.

There's no need to choose!

 

[Disgustipated]

While you're wallowing in concern for my well being, let me ask you a couple of simple questions.

In FMJ, in regard to the depiction of Vietnam War, its characters, or the United States Marine Corps, what positive message did you take away from the experience? Was there any positive image you took home after viewing it?

It turned you into a whining bitter old man . How is that positive ?

 

[RobDownSouth]

He hates where he lives and said he has to care for someone and can't leave. Who can be more needing of care than him ?

He said he cares for his 6 year old granddaughter.

 

[KingOrfeo]

It's the way it has been done from antiquity. The best soldiers in the world are always those who can be stressed beyond their own beliefs and taught to endure. War is a contest of endurance, iron discipline, strategy, and controlled violence.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Recruta_zero_03.png

 

[renard_ruse]

I love this whole ridiculous thread. Mid term election after the most radical extreme liberal couple of years in the history of the country, brought to you by a Democrat radical in the White House, and there's going to be a "backlash" not against them but against the small phony center-right opposition.

"Backlash" for what? Oh wait, that's right, on the one hand for not doing anything at the federal level and for doing too much at the state level (in a few states). Um, ok. But, hey, there "will be" a "backlash." It has been written.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I love this whole ridiculous thread. Mid term election after the most radical extreme liberal couple of years in the history of the country . . .

No, no, that was 1967-8.

. . . and there's going to be a "backlash" not against them but against the small phony center-right opposition.

GOP "center-right"? No, that would be the Dems. You really don't live on the Earth with the blue sky, do you?

"Backlash" for what? Oh wait, that's right, on the one hand for not doing anything at the federal level . . .

Oh, they're doing something worse than nothing at the federal level, all right; they're obstructing.

 

[RobDownSouth]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c0/Recruta_zero_03.png

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1/sad4k.jpg

 

[dan_c00000]

I love this whole ridiculous thread. Mid term election after the most radical extreme liberal couple of years in the history of the country, brought to you by a Democrat radical in the White House, and there's going to be a "backlash" not against them but against the small phony center-right opposition.

You clearly don't know what the words radical and extreme mean.