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[sr71plt]

What? You don't think he'd find our intellectual discussions on the subjects of rape, incest, porn and fucking to be within the parameters of upright Christian behavior?

By Christian do you mean something like the Crusades or the Inquisition?

 

[SweetWitch]

By Christian do you mean something like the Crusades or the Inquisition?

Isn't that upon which Christianity is founded? What else would I be talking about?

Oops. I'm breaking one of my own taboos. "Never discuss religion in a public forum." Time for a subject change.

 

[Guest]

Isn't that upon which Christianity is founded? What else would I be talking about?

Oops. I'm breaking one of my own taboos. "Never discuss religion in a public forum." Time for a subject change.

Sex?

Or perhaps writing?

Nahhh, not writing.

 

[SweetWitch]

Sex?

Or perhaps writing?

Nahhh, not writing.

Oh, let's do writing. I finished my Halloween story but it promises to be a real bomb. I should be able to get a lot of fodder for this thread from it.

 

[sr71plt]

To leave with the thread on topic, I'll include the comments on my "The Thunderstorm," which make point/counterpoint on an old bugaboo of mine. First someone so intense they can't recognize we write fiction here and also someone who thinks straights and gays think the same about sex--and are on a crusade to push their views off on others about that--and leaves me with the thought, as usual, "What in the hell are you doing reading in the Gay Male section then?" (responding comment first)


No live humans were hurt here
09/30/06 By: [deleted] in Australia
The bottom line is that this is FICTION.

Chet does push more than a good neighbour should but that's the story, the conflict/resistance, and final submission/acceptance of the husband's suppressed desire.
The final threesome is more coercive, and no real acceptance occurs, but that forced possession can be very hot to read. In the end this is well structured and written FICTION with a believeable conflicted protagonist, where I got off half way through. And no real humans were hurt or abused in the process.


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No still means no
09/29/06 By: Anonymous
I'd like to slap Chet. And it bothers me intensely that erotica abuses the fact that physiological responses are NOT the same as consent without addressing that.

(She left me with two thoughts: (1) I'd like to slap her too, and (2) I'm certainly glad she hasn't seen my vampire novel.)

 

[SweetWitch]

To leave with the thread on topic, I'll include the comments on my "The Thunderstorm," which make point/counterpoint on an old bugaboo of mine. First someone so intense they can't recognize we write fiction here and also someone who thinks straights and gays think the same about sex--and are on a crusade to push their views off on others about that--and leaves me with the thought, as usual, "What in the hell are you doing reading in the Gay Male section then?" (responding comment first)


No live humans were hurt here
09/30/06 By: [deleted] in Australia
The bottom line is that this is FICTION.

Chet does push more than a good neighbour should but that's the story, the conflict/resistance, and final submission/acceptance of the husband's suppressed desire.
The final threesome is more coercive, and no real acceptance occurs, but that forced possession can be very hot to read. In the end this is well structured and written FICTION with a believeable conflicted protagonist, where I got off half way through. And no real humans were hurt or abused in the process.


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No still means no
09/29/06 By: Anonymous
I'd like to slap Chet. And it bothers me intensely that erotica abuses the fact that physiological responses are NOT the same as consent without addressing that.

(She left me with two thoughts: (1) I'd like to slap her too, and (2) I'm certainly glad she hasn't seen my vampire novel.)

Apparently, we're here to teach moral lessons in our work. Why didn't anyone tell me? Crap.

 

[Guest]

Oh, let's do writing. I finished my Halloween story but it promises to be a real bomb. I should be able to get a lot of fodder for this thread from it.

I'm in the middle of a show now, can't write for awhile. (Too busy editing the script.)

What about your Halloween story? Can we help? Suggestions? Or just flirt and tease awhile to give you more fodder?

 

[SweetWitch]

I'm in the middle of a show now, can't write for awhile. (Too busy editing the script.)

What about your Halloween story? Can we help? Suggestions? Or just flirt and tease awhile to give you more fodder?

Thanks, Sarahh, but the story is just as I intend it to be. I might change back to my original ending, but the rest of it stands just as it is. It's maudlin and downright morbid, but that's where the recent tragedy left me. The trolls will hate it because it will make them depressed. Too bad. That's what it's supposed to do.

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Sarahh, but the story is just as I intend it to be. I might change back to my original ending, but the rest of it stands just as it is. It's maudlin and downright morbid, but that's where the recent tragedy left me. The trolls will hate it because it will make them depressed. Too bad. That's what it's supposed to do.

Good for you. Fuck the trolls. I look forward to reading it.

 

[SweetWitch]

Good for you. Fuck the trolls. I look forward to reading it.

Thank you, Ma'am. It's on another site right now, and the feedback is not all that favorable. I put a cute, trite ending on it, giving in to those who need a fairytale, but I don't like it. So I think I'll put the less happy ending back on it before I post it here.

 

[sr71plt]

Ah, I finally found that zinger on a story of mine on this "consent" business:

Did i hear "no"?
10/28/06 By: Anonymous
why have stories in the gay male category seem to have taken on the condonation of ignoring the word, "NO"? no means no, no matter what the gender of the participants...if "no" is violated then this belongs in the nonconsent/reluctance category, it is no longer consensual


Well, anonymous, there are stories like that in the Gay Male section for two reasons: (1) "no" doesn't mean "no" in the gay world the same that "no" means in the straight world. In the gay world, more of the time it means "I'm aroused and love being taken and you are assigned the role of taker." When two are involved in an encounter in the gay world and one wants to convey a real "no," he socks the other guy in the kisser and walks off. (2) There is only one category for gay stories at Lit. Gay male-interested readers look for gay stories in Gay Male only. If other readers run across gay stories in other sections, they make very rude comments indeed.

 

[Selena_Kitt]

You simply don't understand, but I think you do. I think you just enjoy stirring the pot. You seem to thrive on chaos, it's what you want.

I will state this once more. I did not want my name, or my work associated with Scouries and his list. By using other writers' success, he is attempting to legitimize his own. That is why I pulled my work.

I understand, and I support your decision... but it's sad.

On the other hand... this means you can polish and publish it, doesn't it?

 

[Guest]

Thank you, Ma'am. It's on another site right now, and the feedback is not all that favorable. I put a cute, trite ending on it, giving in to those who need a fairytale, but I don't like it. So I think I'll put the less happy ending back on it before I post it here.

Wise move, I think.

 

[sr71plt]

On the other hand... this means you can polish and publish it, doesn't it?

I'm interested in this question, SK. I believe you've published novel-length erotica. Do publishers in this area not care that the novels have already been published on reading sites like this? In the mainline publishing world, a work that had the reading numbers that MS had on a free site would not be considered publishable in either complete for-fee electronic form or in print--in fact, for most, once it's been been offered free on an Internet site at all, it's dead to the publisher. I've sruprisingly found I have no trouble selling individual stories from this site--to more than one other site concurrently, when they don't ask for an exclusive. But I've wondered if novels serialized here are marketable too.

 

[SweetWitch]

I'm interested in this question, SK. I believe you've published novel-length erotica. Do publishers in this area not care that the novels have already been published on reading sites like this? In the mainline publishing world, a work that had the reading numbers that MS had on a free site would not be considered publishable in either complete for-fee electronic form or in print--in fact, for most, once it's been been offered free on an Internet site at all, it's dead to the publisher. I've sruprisingly found I have no trouble selling individual stories from this site--to more than one other site concurrently, when they don't ask for an exclusive. But I've wondered if novels serialized here are marketable too.

According to my agent, the very numbers of those that have read it make it a viably salable item. It's like test-sampling.

 

[BlackShanglan]

Apparently, we're here to teach moral lessons in our work. Why didn't anyone tell me? Crap.

You know, as odd as it will sound, I did actually pull a story from Lit because I had moral qualms about it. It wasn't that anything especially shocking happened in it; in fact, it was a very happy story in which everyone enjoyed what was going on, and it read like a (rather sticky-sweet, in my opinion) kink romance. It was one of the first stories I posted here, and it was tough pulling down five chapters of it and deleting them from the hard drive. However, I couldn't get around the central problem: the male lead was presented as a charming and loving person, but he deceived his very naive bride in fundamental and far-reaching ways. It wasn't just that he did such things that seemed to me to be problematic; it was that the story itself glossed over the moral weighting of his actions and presented him as an attractive hero. I've had no problem depicting cruel actions and even rape in stories in which it's clearly wrong to commit such acts, but this was a character who was presented as a good person.

Not everyone would care, I realize. Readers seemed to like the story. But ultimately, I wasn't comfortable with it. Call me a pedantic prude if you like.

Shanglan

 

[SweetWitch]

You know, as odd as it will sound, I did actually pull a story from Lit because I had moral qualms about it. It wasn't that anything especially shocking happened in it; in fact, it was a very happy story in which everyone enjoyed what was going on, and it read like a (rather sticky-sweet, in my opinion) kink romance. It was one of the first stories I posted here, and it was tough pulling down five chapters of it and deleting them from the hard drive. However, I couldn't get around the central problem: the male lead was presented as a charming and loving person, but he deceived his very naive bride in fundamental and far-reaching ways. It wasn't just that he did such things that seemed to me to be problematic; it was that the story itself glossed over the moral weighting of his actions and presented him as an attractive hero. I've had no problem depicting cruel actions and even rape in stories in which it's clearly wrong to commit such acts, but this was a character who was presented as a good person.

Not everyone would care, I realize. Readers seemed to like the story. But ultimately, I wasn't comfortable with it. Call me a pedantic prude if you like.

Shanglan

We all have our own limits and you found yours. Since it was your story, you had the right to feel as you did about it. But to go trolling, looking for something that will offend your sensibilities, reading it and then bashing it is as morally wrong as any social ill the trolls find in the stories they seek so readily.

Um, I think I'm babbling.

 

[Guest]

You know, as odd as it will sound, I did actually pull a story from Lit because I had moral qualms about it. It wasn't that anything especially shocking happened in it; in fact, it was a very happy story in which everyone enjoyed what was going on, and it read like a (rather sticky-sweet, in my opinion) kink romance. It was one of the first stories I posted here, and it was tough pulling down five chapters of it and deleting them from the hard drive. However, I couldn't get around the central problem: the male lead was presented as a charming and loving person, but he deceived his very naive bride in fundamental and far-reaching ways. It wasn't just that he did such things that seemed to me to be problematic; it was that the story itself glossed over the moral weighting of his actions and presented him as an attractive hero. I've had no problem depicting cruel actions and even rape in stories in which it's clearly wrong to commit such acts, but this was a character who was presented as a good person.

Not everyone would care, I realize. Readers seemed to like the story. But ultimately, I wasn't comfortable with it. Call me a pedantic prude if you like.

Shanglan

Ethics, morals, scruples - sounds as if you're loaded with 'em.

 

[SweetWitch]

I didn't get this on public feedback, but I don't think a thread like this would be complete without this particular Anon:

Comments:

oh you so sickeneng sweet. who make you queen for these days why you so selly maybe another funny phoorey contests. you mouth like butters slip sliding.

 

[sr71plt]

According to my agent, the very numbers of those that have read it make it a viably salable item. It's like test-sampling.

Thanks. That's very, very different from the mainline publishing world. I have four that I can start trying to peddle then. On the one already sold, I assumed it could not be posted anywhere first.

 

[sr71plt]

You know, as odd as it will sound, I did actually pull a story from Lit because I had moral qualms about it. It wasn't that anything especially shocking happened in it; in fact, it was a very happy story in which everyone enjoyed what was going on, and it read like a (rather sticky-sweet, in my opinion) kink romance. It was one of the first stories I posted here, and it was tough pulling down five chapters of it and deleting them from the hard drive. However, I couldn't get around the central problem: the male lead was presented as a charming and loving person, but he deceived his very naive bride in fundamental and far-reaching ways. It wasn't just that he did such things that seemed to me to be problematic; it was that the story itself glossed over the moral weighting of his actions and presented him as an attractive hero. I've had no problem depicting cruel actions and even rape in stories in which it's clearly wrong to commit such acts, but this was a character who was presented as a good person.

Not everyone would care, I realize. Readers seemed to like the story. But ultimately, I wasn't comfortable with it. Call me a pedantic prude if you like.

Shanglan

I have a good dozen stories (and that vampire novel--which has sold elsewhere) that I decided weren't for Lit. for that reason. They push the statement barrier rules of the site in my own mind, so I've put them all elsewhere.

 

[sr71plt]

I didn't get this on public feedback, but I don't think a thread like this would be complete without this particular Anon:

That sounds like a great opening sentence for a story all its own.

 

[BlackShanglan]

We all have our own limits and you found yours. Since it was your story, you had the right to feel as you did about it. But to go trolling, looking for something that will offend your sensibilities, reading it and then bashing it is as morally wrong as any social ill the trolls find in the stories they seek so readily.

Amen to that. Some of them seem positively addicted to moral outrage. It's nearly as bad as me reading Ishmael's posts.

I didn't get this on public feedback, but I don't think a thread like this would be complete without this particular Anon:

Comments:

oh you so sickeneng sweet. who make you queen for these days why you so selly maybe another funny phoorey contests. you mouth like butters slip sliding.

That's fabulous! I'll get hours of pleasure just from trying to figure out what "phoorey" might be intended to mean.

 

[MzDeviancy]

I didn't get this on public feedback, but I don't think a thread like this would be complete without this particular Anon:

Sounds like you issued Challenge #2 ('Bash my story using alliteration, circumlocation and hyperbaton!') to the trolls, except added 'misspelled', maybe?

 

[Guest]

I'm interested in this question, SK. I believe you've published novel-length erotica. Do publishers in this area not care that the novels have already been published on reading sites like this? In the mainline publishing world, a work that had the reading numbers that MS had on a free site would not be considered publishable in either complete for-fee electronic form or in print--in fact, for most, once it's been been offered free on an Internet site at all, it's dead to the publisher. I've sruprisingly found I have no trouble selling individual stories from this site--to more than one other site concurrently, when they don't ask for an exclusive. But I've wondered if novels serialized here are marketable too.

If you check out my signature, it shows two of my novels, both once published here, that are now for sale. I have two more novel length and one short story that will be published next year for e novel and the two on my signature are going to print next year. So to answer your question, yes, you can sell right from your storypage. As a matter of fact, I've had publishers send me emails asking for some of my work right from my storypage. I always pull my work though, as soon as I'm sent the contract.