Most Boring Rapture ever!

[evesdream]

Yep.

The scripture used to support the idea is taken from Thessalonians, yes, but it doesn't actually say anything about a pre-Tribulation "taking" of the believers while the rest of us peons have to wait here through all the opening of the seals and blowing of the trumpets and whatnot, only to be punished more at the Second Coming.

Next you'll be telling me there's not talking furniture either!

However here's what "Prophecy Truths" has to say about it...
http://ad2004.com/prophecytruths/Articles/Prophecy/DayofLord.html

The Day of the Lord is tied together with the changing of believers in the rapture in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 to 5:1-10. Notice that those alive when Christ comes (4:13-18) shall be changed instantly into their immortal bodies when they are caught up to the clouds to meet the Lord in the air (also 1 Corinthians 15:51-55). The text goes on in 1 Thessalonians 5:1-10, to say that believers are not to worry that the Day of the Lord has come like a thief and overtaken us, because believers are not in darkness, that the Day of the Lord should come upon us; and goes on to say that, "God has not destined us for wrath in the Day of the Lord, but for salvation."

where we find the implication that there will indeed be wrath for those of us left behind. I prefer the optimistic interpretation that no one at all is destined for wrath. Salvation for all!

 

[JMohegan]

Glad to hear it. Hope the other stuff is enjoyable and the travel is amazing. Maybe I can live vicariously through you -- anyplace exotic? Fabulous? Good food?

I guess the most "exotic" so far this year was Prague.

Ghastly local food. Totally fucking ghastly.

Gorgeous city, incredibly picturesque. Packed with history. For some real cognitive dissonance, I recommend the gothic synagogue.

Very nice people, warm and welcoming. But I do have to wonder what they have against vowels.

 

[JMohegan]

The second coming of Christ ≠ The Rapture.

In a nutshell, the concept of The Rapture was created in order to give Christians the false hope that they'd be swept away from the planet at the End Times so as to avoid all the hardship, torment and general craptastic events that are supposed to effect humankind.

In reality, we're going to be stuck suffering with everyone. It's a nice hope but unfortunately a "modern" concept that many don't believe in.

Your imaginings as to whether an omniscient Being exists, and the extent of the suffering that Being plans to inflict on humanity, are no more or less goofy than comparable imaginings by a Rapture believer or anyone else.

Mocking someone for pretending to know, when you yourself do the very same thing, is just silly.

 

[ImOnIt]

I guess the most "exotic" so far this year was Prague.

Ghastly local food. Totally fucking ghastly.

Gorgeous city, incredibly picturesque. Packed with history. For some real cognitive dissonance, I recommend the gothic synagogue.

Very nice people, warm and welcoming. But I do have to wonder what they have against vowels.

Prague was kickass, you must have been eating the wrong things. Pivo in Plzen, fresh fresh pivo

Dumpling and beef? Dumpling and pork? Bread dumpling far outclasses potato dumpling, plus dark flavoursome meat and gravy and cabbage. It was available everywhere, and I ate it everywhere. We stayed first in Old Prague, with boy racers hooning (more kiwi vocab: it here means : drive with excessive speed) in the shittiest of tin can cars. And roads build without any planning, hundreds of years ago. Stairs worn down in the centre! Russian holidaymakers in Russian hats! All black clothing! Pickpockets! Cold stone cathedrals! Now I want to go back for dumplings

I found the people of Praha to be very stoic outside, but put them inside and put a beer inside them and it's like night and day. Also, delicious redheads everywhere!

 

[JMohegan]

Prague was kickass, you must have been eating the wrong things. Pivo in Plzen, fresh fresh pivo

Dumpling and beef? Dumpling and pork? Bread dumpling far outclasses potato dumpling, plus dark flavoursome meat and gravy and cabbage. It was available everywhere, and I ate it everywhere. We stayed first in Old Prague, with boy racers hooning (more kiwi vocab: it here means : drive with excessive speed) in the shittiest of tin can cars. And roads build without any planning, hundreds of years ago. Stairs worn down in the centre! Russian holidaymakers in Russian hats! All black clothing! Pickpockets! Cold stone cathedrals! Now I want to go back for dumplings

I found the people of Praha to be very stoic outside, but put them inside and put a beer inside them and it's like night and day. Also, delicious redheads everywhere!

Hey now, I didn't say the beer was bad!

I didn't see any kiwis. Or Russians! But I met tourists from every country in Western Europe. So many that the Japanese were actually a small minority of folks around the castle and Charles Bridge and old Jewish graveyard. Very unusual for top tourist spots. Lots of Germans, especially.

Oh, and the boy racers were on motorcycles when I was there.

 

[satindesire]

Your imaginings as to whether an omniscient Being exists, and the extent of the suffering that Being plans to inflict on humanity, are no more or less goofy than comparable imaginings by a Rapture believer or anyone else.

Mocking someone for pretending to know, when you yourself do the very same thing, is just silly.

I believe. I don't KNOW. That's the difference.

I didn't come here to defend my position, so if you're going to try and preach at me that my faith is "wrong", you're barking up the wrong tree and I suggest you waste your words elsewhere.

 

[ImOnIt]

Karlof Bridge, 4 years ago.

edit: pic missing werwarwarqewqqweqwe

 

[graceanne]

I don't feel sorry for them. A quick glance in the bible at the phrase "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." should have alerted them that this FALSE PROPHET was full of shit and after their money. If they were trying to be great Christians and do what was right, they should have followed the Word, not the words of a con artist who has a history of getting the Rapture date wrong.

When I heard the rapture was gonna happen on Saturday, the first thing I did was kid my sister in law (it was also her 40th birthday). Then I pointed out that while I don't know which day the and hour the endtimes will be, I can damn guarantee which days it WON'T happen, and that's the days that everyone is screaming that they're ending.

Hold thy tongue, sir! Lest She smite you, with a caffeinated thunderbolt of Breakfast Blend.

Okay, I told this story over on the GB, but... I went biking last night, maybe an hour after the "rapture." It was at a busy park. I came around a path, and...

Someone had LAID OUT CLOTHES AND SHOES. Two sets, in the middle of the path. Seriously. In human shapes. It was meant to mimic two people who had been out walking, and had been "taken." I laughed out loud. I didn't know if it was a joke (probably), or perpetrated by true believers, eager to build rapture cred.

ROFL

I believe. I don't KNOW. That's the difference.

I didn't come here to defend my position, so if you're going to try and preach at me that my faith is "wrong", you're barking up the wrong tree and I suggest you waste your words elsewhere.

What she said.

 

[DVS]

I believe. I don't KNOW. That's the difference.

I didn't come here to defend my position, so if you're going to try and preach at me that my faith is "wrong", you're barking up the wrong tree and I suggest you waste your words elsewhere.

When I heard the rapture was gonna happen on Saturday, the first thing I did was kid my sister in law (it was also her 40th birthday). Then I pointed out that while I don't know which day the and hour the endtimes will be, I can damn guarantee which days it WON'T happen, and that's the days that everyone is screaming that they're ending.



ROFL



What she said.

What they said.

 

[ImOnIt]

When I heard the rapture was gonna happen on Saturday, the first thing I did was kid my sister in law (it was also her 40th birthday). Then I pointed out that while I don't know which day the and hour the endtimes will be, I can damn guarantee which days it WON'T happen, and that's the days that everyone is screaming that they're ending.

Brb preventing the end times by screaming about them. [/NotMakingAnySenseAtAll]

NOT ON MY WATCH

 

[evesdream]

What they said.

Awesome, there are people right here on Lit who know this stuff for sure for sure? Hurry, who do I write the first cheque to?
....better not be fake for sure like the others.

I can think of three other types of people who get to end dialogue along the lines of "because I know so and said so".

 

[satindesire]

Awesome, there are people right here on Lit who know this stuff for sure for sure? Hurry, who do I write the first cheque to?
....better not be fake for sure like the others.

I can think of three other types of people who get to end dialogue along the lines of "because I know so and said so".

Hypocrisy isn't just a religious creation. Nor is it a concept that only religious people have.

Food for thought.

 

[DeepGreenEyes]

Annnnnnnnnd.....Let our yearly religious battle commence!!!

Please silence your cell phones and Gregorian monks!!

Popcorn, Raisenets and communion wafers available in the lobby!!

 

[evesdream]

Hypocrisy isn't just a religious creation. Nor is it a concept that only religious people have.

Food for thought.

Your parents, your dom, and Mussolini

 

[JMohegan]

I believe. I don't KNOW. That's the difference.

I didn't come here to defend my position, so if you're going to try and preach at me that my faith is "wrong", you're barking up the wrong tree and I suggest you waste your words elsewhere.

No need to be defensive about this.

I'm not telling you your faith is wrong. I'm saying that your guess as to what will happen is no more or less goofy than the Rapture folks' guess, and you look silly for mocking them for precisely that reason.

You did say you "know." See bolded bit below.

The second coming of Christ ≠ The Rapture.

In a nutshell, the concept of The Rapture was created in order to give Christians the false hope that they'd be swept away from the planet at the End Times so as to avoid all the hardship, torment and general craptastic events that are supposed to effect humankind.

In reality, we're going to be stuck suffering with everyone. It's a nice hope but unfortunately a "modern" concept that many don't believe in.

 

[satindesire]

Your parents, your dom, and Mussolini

And what exactly do you mean by that statement?

 

[satindesire]

No need to be defensive about this.

I'm not telling you your faith is wrong. I'm saying that your guess as to what will happen is no more or less goofy than the Rapture folks' guess, and you look silly for mocking them for precisely that reason.

You did say you "know." See bolded bit below.

Oh, okay. It's an issue of a turn of phrase being taken too literally in your case, then?

I didn't mean "I know exactly how the world is going to end and this is how it'll be and I'm exactly right."

Sorry.

 

[JMohegan]

I don't feel sorry for them. A quick glance in the bible at the phrase "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." should have alerted them that this FALSE PROPHET was full of shit and after their money. If they were trying to be great Christians and do what was right, they should have followed the Word, not the words of a con artist who has a history of getting the Rapture date wrong.

The "Word" of the Bible is no more or less goofy than anything Harold Camping says.

That's my point.

One set of guesses, notions, commands, foundations for faith, etc., written thousands of years ago. Another set propounded this year.

No difference in terms of validity. NONE. Both guesses, imaginings, articles of faith.

That's all I'm trying to say.

 

[satindesire]

The "Word" of the Bible is no more or less goofy than anything Harold Camping says.

That's my point.

One set of guesses, notions, commands, foundations for faith, etc., written thousands of years ago. Another set propounded this year.

No difference in terms of validity. NONE. Both guesses, imaginings, articles of faith.

That's all I'm trying to say.

Okay, I understand that. Maybe I need to ask this question:

Why come into a thread full of religious people and "Just say" that?

 

[JMohegan]

Okay, I understand that. Maybe I need to ask this question:

Why come into a thread full of religious people and "Just say" that?

Why mock people who are just as religious as you are? Why start this thread?

 

[satindesire]

Why mock people who are just as religious as you are? Why start this thread?

I did it for a laugh. To be funny, to share a lulz with the rest of the folks who thought it was funny that a manipulative person who hurt people for their own personal gain was publicly given his just karma.

Now your turn.

Edit:

I've love to see some proof that I actually MOCKED people who thought the con artist was right. I said I "felt sorry" for them, and expressed angrily that they were robbed by someone who took advantage of their faith...where in your universe does that mean mocking?

 

[JMohegan]

I am totally disappointed by the lack of zombies.

^^ Looks like mocking to me.

 

[JMohegan]

I did it for a laugh. To be funny, to share a lulz with the rest of the folks who thought it was funny that a manipulative person who hurt people for their own personal gain was publicly given his just karma.

How do you know that Harold Camping is more interested in deliberately manipulating people for personal gain than the individuals who wrote the bible?

 

[evesdream]

And what exactly do you mean by that statement?

Are there really people who can tell the future? How does one distinguish a false prophet from a real one? What is the difference between smart faith, and gullible faith? Does faith stop when doubts appear? When it costs a lot of money? When people make mistakes? Does it depend on how many other people believe the same thing? Don't worry, you don't have to answer.

 

[satindesire]

^^ Looks like mocking to me.

Preconceived notions projected onto a person who is actually having nothing of the sort.

Sorry to disappoint.