Sowing Seeds

[mark_j]

We now have unhinged extremists on two continents and the Indian and Arabian peninsulas and will probably (unfortunately) have one in North America soon with their fingers on 'The Button'.

I'm not sure the seeds sown (kids born) in the last ten years will see Adulthood. At least not in a manner unlike Mad Max.

Oh for fucks sake, this tired old shit again? Seems to me the (D)'s were pushing this shit 36 years ago when Reagan got elected. How he was such a cowboy and he was gonna cause a nuke war and blah blah blah the (R)'s are going to cause a major war and the world is going to blow up and on and on and on.

For Pete's sake you can't even come up with an original line. Just the same old fear mongering over and over..

 

[Hard_Rom]

That's the wrong tree you're barking up. He wants to get rid of the federal department of education, and allow states to run their schools their way. That's how it used to be, and nobody remembers how poor, haphazard and inequitable public education was.

Up here education is a provincial matter and they determine curriculum. But provinces will receive funds from the Feds as well as local governments chipping in. There is some degree of difference in the have and have-not provinces but they are minimal. Locally within a city may show different marked levels.

We have almost a three tiered educational system. What we call colleges slot in between high school and university. 51% of Canadians have a college education. By far the highest percentage in the world. And our universities are as much as half the price with comparable quality.

Our provinces have jurisdiction over quite a few things and are sovereign. But they rely so heavily on Federal payments that they are held subordinate to the Feds. Healthcare, education and natural resources are the big three provincial jurisdictions.

State rights are not so much an issue as the discriminatory uses they get put to typically by state and local governments. States could run effective educations systems except for IMO the endemic racism that occurs in the US. Poor inner cities would happily be denied education funds to give suburbanites an advantage.

 

[yukonnights]

I wonder if we are sowing the seeds that will yield a better world. It seems to me we are just sowing the seeds that yield disaster.
By not addressing the problems of the society from a systemic intellectual way, but knee jerking our way along the "Greatest Profit This Quarter" path. We are not investing in our future....

I think you posted a good question/point. Seems it has gone unnoticed for some reason. But this question, and the back and forth battle it has spawned, has been with us at least 100 years here in the US and longer in other places. It goes back to the days of the Industrial Tycoons who had the law on their side as they crushed attempts at organized labor. The topic of the conversation was the same when discussing the Great Depression era. Our latest "conversation" was just a few years ago when the unbridled kings of Wall St. and International Bankers wreaked havoc on much of the world. And now, here we are..still asking the same old questions and fighting the same old battle.

Now here's the real bad news; The "Rich" have won. This past election was just the latest skirmish...of no consequence at all in the bigger picture of world wide domination by a few elitist. All this talk about secure borders means nothing to the new Royalty. And don't be thinking that Royalty is just hyperbole. The human species has lived the majority of it's existence under the rule of Royalty. Democracy is just a very brief experiment, in the big picture. And with the majority of wealth being amassed by the few, it is only a matter time when democracy will be laid to rest. (It's actually already happening all around us; union busting in many states, billion dollar election costs that only the elite can afford, outright dictatorships (royalty) in many countries, organized deception (propaganda) growing every year, currency/wealth defined as "free speech" under law....and on and on we go.

So, I would answer; No to your question...we are not sowing seeds that will yield a better world...IF that world is defined as being similar to what we have known in the western democracies for the last century or so. We are sowing the seeds for more wealth to trickle up to the New Royalty.

As a related side issue is the expanding population of the world. I try to imaging a world where everyone has a decent job, a home and enough to eat. I try, I really do...but I can never see the way this is going to happen. Instead, I see an ever widening gap between the haves and have nots...I see more and more machines working and fewer and fewer people working...I see more and more people in all countries sliding from the haves into the have-nots...I see increased displacement of large numbers of people in many regions of the world...I see the lust for more money becoming so great that nothing else matters...screw the water, screw the air, dig that coal until the land is forsaken, fracture the earth until it collapses under our feet...money...money...more, more, more...

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