The LIT Swingers Club

Have you ever been to a swinger's party/club and participated in swapping partners?


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Great thread, but I could not vote. When we did parties and enjoyed Trapeze we swapped on our terms. We usually mnet people interesting at clubs and found if they moved at our pace. We would enjoy dinner as a group and get to the agreed protocol and expectation. Then we would play. And we swapped for the ladies to enjoy each other, and sometimes the ladies would blow the patient men that watched. If there was full on sex it was in the same room with the lover we came with. No domination, bi guys or anal anything. Actual swinging without sex.

That's so interesting! Thank you for sharing.

I love hearing about all the different rules and ways to make this sort of thing work that people have.

As far as I can tell so far from my own personal experience, and from talking with others with far more experience, it's all about keeping those lines of communication open.

Q: Is there such a thing as cheating when you're in an "open relationship"?
A: Yes there is! And usually with the same terrible results! So don't cheat. Even if you're in an open/swinger relationship!
 
That's about how far I would go with THAT thing. 😲 :D

Then you're missing out sweetie. The big ones can be LOTS of fun! :giggle:

But yes, there is such a thing as too big. Although I've only come across it twice in my life. (and both times I still didn't say no!)
 
For me there is.
I've only been 'too big' once. Too long a few times. For us when that happens it is all about how you handle the situation. You don't have to fuck to get what you came there for....
Thankfully it was only once I was deemed too small. And then I think she was only being rude. Or maybe since it was a sympathy fuck she was actually disappointed? She saw a lot more dick than I saw pussy. She was my Mom and Dad's favorite waitress. I stayed after dinner and was getting high with the owners of the restaurant. She thought my dad was hot for an 'old man' and did me as it went from there. Getting herself off complaining about my prick and not finishing me was just wrong.
I was inspired to get even. At a later party I saw her heading back to a bedroom. I waited and walked in with the guy's date that evening. At the very least I ruined a cum for her. I felt bad for the chick I ruined her date. Years later I ran into her at a business conference. She did not think I had a little dick.
---- I did not get a complex from the experience, but I didn't like the negative opinion... or the negative actions that it inspired me to conspire.
 
Then you're missing out sweetie. The big ones can be LOTS of fun! :giggle:

But yes, there is such a thing as too big. Although I've only come across it twice in my life. (and both times I still didn't say no!)
Based on a rough idea of your height I'm almost afraid to guess how big, I'm guessing that's a pick your position carefully type encounter?
 
That's so interesting! Thank you for sharing.

I love hearing about all the different rules and ways to make this sort of thing work that people have.

As far as I can tell so far from my own personal experience, and from talking with others with far more experience, it's all about keeping those lines of communication open.

Q: Is there such a thing as cheating when you're in an "open relationship"?
A: Yes there is! And usually with the same terrible results! So don't cheat. Even if you're in an open/swinger relationship!
My 'her' and I were healthy. We knew who buttered our toast. We were young in our 30's. We talked about the rules ahead of time. Including how we react if challenged by another couple. Neither of us was allowed to pimp the other out to get what we wanted. That was very important, but also very easy. As we did not fuck outside of 'us'. My rule before I met her was I would not fuck anything I would not lick. When it came to the guy on the other side it was easy as her tastes were kind of like mine? It had to be appealing?
If I swung today it would be a little different. I think I would very much enjoy watching her fuck or get fucked by someone we agreed should be the fucker fuckee... I know watching her blow a guy as his woman blew me, blew my mind. One time seeing his cum slide out her mouth and down his shaft should have been revolting but I got so turned on. I stopped the blow job I was getting and mounted her from behind. She knew I was crazed by it and just turned back and watch me use her. Funny how you remember some orgasms more than others.

We did not feel like it was cheating if we were together. And we were not in an open relationship. Some of the women we found for her did play as a threesome with us. I didn't "owe" her anything. I never understood how she could see her lover with another. But I do remember one of those moments with glee. Once my cum was mixed in both I didn't care who was sitting on my dick or my face. I fantasized the three of us should marry. Wonderful person. She is married now and her husband does not know.

Which is another thing I remember, when you swing or soft swing as we termed it, you can never re-enact anything. It is forever new or it did not happen. And without any doubt there were some players I wanted all to myself. In the end, I liked the way my toast was buttered and could not butter hers enough.
 
Based on a rough idea of your height I'm almost afraid to guess how big, I'm guessing that's a pick your position carefully type encounter?

Exactly. There's some things big dicks are good for and there's somethings little dicks are good for.

That's why 9 times out of 10 something in the middle is the best when you're in a LTR - more variety and options!
 
My 'her' and I were healthy. We knew who buttered our toast. We were young in our 30's. We talked about the rules ahead of time. Including how we react if challenged by another couple. Neither of us was allowed to pimp the other out to get what we wanted. That was very important, but also very easy. As we did not fuck outside of 'us'. My rule before I met her was I would not fuck anything I would not lick. When it came to the guy on the other side it was easy as her tastes were kind of like mine? It had to be appealing?
If I swung today it would be a little different. I think I would very much enjoy watching her fuck or get fucked by someone we agreed should be the fucker fuckee... I know watching her blow a guy as his woman blew me, blew my mind. One time seeing his cum slide out her mouth and down his shaft should have been revolting but I got so turned on. I stopped the blow job I was getting and mounted her from behind. She knew I was crazed by it and just turned back and watch me use her. Funny how you remember some orgasms more than others.

We did not feel like it was cheating if we were together. And we were not in an open relationship. Some of the women we found for her did play as a threesome with us. I didn't "owe" her anything. I never understood how she could see her lover with another. But I do remember one of those moments with glee. Once my cum was mixed in both I didn't care who was sitting on my dick or my face. I fantasized the three of us should marry. Wonderful person. She is married now and her husband does not know.

Which is another thing I remember, when you swing or soft swing as we termed it, you can never re-enact anything. It is forever new or it did not happen. And without any doubt there were some players I wanted all to myself. In the end, I liked the way my toast was buttered and could not butter hers enough.

What I meant by cheating was that whatever rules you have with your partner follow them. Don't stray from them. That's not directed at you. It's just general advice.

So do you still sometimes see her? That would be hot. I love bumping into people in public that I've had sex with or he's had sex with when I'm with my husband.
 
What I meant by cheating was that whatever rules you have with your partner follow them. Don't stray from them. That's not directed at you. It's just general advice.

So do you still sometimes see her? That would be hot. I love bumping into people in public that I've had sex with or he's had sex with when I'm with my husband.
No it hasn't happened. The extra lives on the west coast now and when I ran into her at CES in Vegas. My lover I should have married married someone else after I moved away because I followed my career. We talked a few times. My love today would not understand and likely self destruct. Which is probably why I reacted to 'cheat'. No matter how I try to define it it is what it is. Not too frequent these days so I am a good boy and continuously dedicated. I just still have needs, however innocent they may be...
 
No it hasn't happened. The extra lives on the west coast now and when I ran into her at CES in Vegas. My lover I should have married married someone else after I moved away because I followed my career. We talked a few times. My love today would not understand and likely self destruct. Which is probably why I reacted to 'cheat'. No matter how I try to define it it is what it is. Not too frequent these days so I am a good boy and continuously dedicated. I just still have needs, however innocent they may be...

So you're in a look, appreciate, but don't touch arrangement now? Isn't that a little frustrating after the kind of relationship you had before? Or are you okay with it because you're "older and wiser" now?
 
I have someone I love. I am not alone. The sex could be different. Even better if I was totally honest. I think love and all the dedication that goes with it is more important to me. But yes. Physically we have each other and room to improve.
I've experimented a little when I thought I needed more from the sensual side of the relationship. On every other weekend her child is away. Those mornings when aunt flo is not visiting is when we get time. She's 46 I'm 58. One experiment was after our some what predictable session I let her shower first. Only to let her catch me watching something arousing on TV and slowly stroking myself. As expected she reacted with the 'I am not enough for you' kind of thing. After a while she calms down and we talk about it. Sometimes I get to give her what I want from foreplay. She just hasn't figured out how to do it for me. I've always been a better teacher. I need more sensual foreplay. Someone else to be solely responsible for my climax. What lovers do right? I think my frustration comes out here on lit. I do love sharing my experiences and encouraging others to find ways to communicate. As that is the best of my experience. Being able to openly say what you think is important as being able to hear what she thinks.
I am lacking that experience right now as I do not always know how to react to what I hear. New limits. Luckily she is pretty much wet or wet on desire and I'm still able. If not erect on inconvenient timing she knows how to put a hand on it and create the tool she is looking for.
I hope that is not a let down for you. I hope it doesn't make me a horny old man. Both happy is what I like. She likes the way I cook too. And the same wine. Outside of sex easily entertained even though she still needs to work some more. And lets me be retired years before it is necessary....
I try not to ask for more but there are things I want.... One is, I wish I experimented in bed more than I do in the kitchen.
Any advice? Even to get her excited when she makes me cum? To her that is a waste, it wasn't in her. I wish I could have her understand there is different intensities of climax. If you pull my trigger just so, it happens like I was 20. I tried asking her to shoot me in the face, but she only showed me it didn't do that. If I mention another its like no way, what if she shoots you in the face. The way I see it if someone did shoot me in the face she would figure out how to do that. It is like a barrier I can't pass. I love massage and the erotics it can lead to. I have done for her things with my hands I swear she was levitated off the table. And she still does not get it. While I want, I feel lucky she likes me in her. Without that and only love I wonder if we would be.
 
I have someone I love. I am not alone. The sex could be different. Even better if I was totally honest. I think love and all the dedication that goes with it is more important to me. But yes. Physically we have each other and room to improve.
I've experimented a little when I thought I needed more from the sensual side of the relationship. On every other weekend her child is away. Those mornings when aunt flo is not visiting is when we get time. She's 46 I'm 58. One experiment was after our some what predictable session I let her shower first. Only to let her catch me watching something arousing on TV and slowly stroking myself. As expected she reacted with the 'I am not enough for you' kind of thing. After a while she calms down and we talk about it. Sometimes I get to give her what I want from foreplay. She just hasn't figured out how to do it for me. I've always been a better teacher. I need more sensual foreplay. Someone else to be solely responsible for my climax. What lovers do right? I think my frustration comes out here on lit. I do love sharing my experiences and encouraging others to find ways to communicate. As that is the best of my experience. Being able to openly say what you think is important as being able to hear what she thinks.
I am lacking that experience right now as I do not always know how to react to what I hear. New limits. Luckily she is pretty much wet or wet on desire and I'm still able. If not erect on inconvenient timing she knows how to put a hand on it and create the tool she is looking for.
I hope that is not a let down for you. I hope it doesn't make me a horny old man. Both happy is what I like. She likes the way I cook too. And the same wine. Outside of sex easily entertained even though she still needs to work some more. And lets me be retired years before it is necessary....
I try not to ask for more but there are things I want.... One is, I wish I experimented in bed more than I do in the kitchen.
Any advice? Even to get her excited when she makes me cum? To her that is a waste, it wasn't in her. I wish I could have her understand there is different intensities of climax. If you pull my trigger just so, it happens like I was 20. I tried asking her to shoot me in the face, but she only showed me it didn't do that. If I mention another its like no way, what if she shoots you in the face. The way I see it if someone did shoot me in the face she would figure out how to do that. It is like a barrier I can't pass. I love massage and the erotics it can lead to. I have done for her things with my hands I swear she was levitated off the table. And she still does not get it. While I want, I feel lucky she likes me in her. Without that and only love I wonder if we would be.

It sounds to me like you have a wonderful relationship. Being able to talk with her about what you want, what you need has got to lead to some good things doesn't it?

I love the comparison of experimenting in the kitchen versus experimenting in the bedroom. It's so true. Some people have more barriers about certain things than others. That's just basic human nature and it's not likely to change with her. The only way you might possibly make her more comfortable with it is to talk with her about it. Even going so far as saying something like "that wasn't quite what I was talking about" afterwards.

Most women are ready and willing to talk about their relationship. So, talk with her (not to her) about some of your more tame fantasies and see how she responds. Or, introduce a toy. I would highly recommend an Hitachi (they're also sometimes called Magic Wands). You might be surprised by some of the things that come out of her mouth when you get her all revved up with it. Pro Tip: WATCH HER PLAY WITH IT FIRST so that you can see how and where SHE likes it on her body. Then as she's edging closer and closer to orgasm, get her to tell you one of her fantasies. Again, you might be pleasantly surprised by what she confesses under pending orgasm duress! You can then use that information to build on.

If you want her to make you cum all over your own face maybe buy her an expensive pair of sexy shoes and a sexy outfit where she is clothed and you are not. That might inspire her to be a little mean to you. (it would be helpful if you recently had a disagreement about something lol)

If I'm misunderstanding you and you want her to squirt in your face, well, that's a different level of kink for most women. Not only does she have to a) be a squirtter (not all of us are), she has to b) be comfortable losing so much control with you. That's a big leap for most women so don't push it.

But again, to me you have what sounds like a pretty healthy relationship and sex life. Be grateful for it. (which it sounds like you already are) :heart:
 
That is why you will always be my hero. :heart:

I actually ran into one of those "too big" guys at another party about a year after the first time and said okay, let's try this again. Same result. No bueno. Bruised cervex. It hurt during (but I liked it rough back in those daze lol because I was usually high AF on whatever), but it actually hurt more afterwards. I remember walking with a limp for a week after. My gf at the time was like "What's wrong with you?" and I was like, that guy at the party I told you about, I'm never doing a guy ever again.

That didn't last obvs, but you get the idea. There's "Wow, your really big" and then there's "Whoa, no fucking way!" :oops:
 
I actually ran into one of those "too big" guys at another party about a year after the first time and said okay, let's try this again. Same result. No bueno. Bruised cervex. It hurt during (but I liked it rough back in those daze lol because I was usually high AF on whatever), but it actually hurt more afterwards. I remember walking with a limp for a week after. My gf at the time was like "What's wrong with you?" and I was like, that guy at the party I told you about, I'm never doing a guy ever again.

That didn't last obvs, but you get the idea. There's "Wow, your really big" and then there's "Whoa, no fucking way!" :oops:
Well lucky for me.. I have never encountered a, "Whoa, no fucking way"... or even a, "Wow, your really big." :D
 
Well lucky for me.. I have never encountered a, "Whoa, no fucking way"... or even a, "Wow, your really big." :D

That brings up an interesting situation in the swinging/swapping world ....

DISCUSSION QUESTION:

Has anyone ever been to a party where one of the participants was too big for one of the other participants to even want to try to be with?

What happens if someone, a man or a woman, is shocked to the point of having to stop by what he or she sees when his or her partner-to-be is naked?

Has that ever happened to anyone or at a swingers/swap party they attended?

It must be really awkward, but the more I think about it I imagine it very easily could happen.

Besides a penis that's too big, I guess there's also the risk of too old? not attractive enough? too fat or too skinny for someone?

I guess a boiled down question would be, what happens when someone changes their mind (for whatever reason) AFTER they pair off with someone?

:oops:
 
That brings up an interesting situation in the swinging/swapping world ....

DISCUSSION QUESTION:

Has anyone ever been to a party where one of the participants was too big for one of the other participants to even want to try to be with?

What happens if someone, a man or a woman, is shocked to the point of having to stop by what he or she sees when his or her partner-to-be is naked?

Has that ever happened to anyone or at a swingers/swap party they attended?

It must be really awkward, but the more I think about it I imagine it very easily could happen.

Besides a penis that's too big, I guess there's also the risk of too old? not attractive enough? too fat or too skinny for someone?

I guess a boiled down question would be, what happens when someone changes their mind (for whatever reason) AFTER they pair off with someone?

:oops:
It is possible? If you get invited to a party it is not a nudist event. It is a party where people with similar ideas are together. A simple way to meet people with the same adventurous ideas. As well the parties are tasteful. Kind of a protocol the way people interact and respect each other. If endowment is a known issue I am sure it would be brought up. If it is a major concern for you, be sure to mention it. I sent you a post that included a site where you could not only find parties, but learn the protocol so you don't do something stupid. As well, being in Vegas you should be able to meet 'parties' of people coming to Vegas as a group. There are not only mingle parties for swingers. It is a lifestyle site. What are you looking for?
Visiting an on-premis club the first time I will admit I was really nervous. I figured I'd be the smallest in the room. She thought she would feel fat. It wasn't like that. The main part of the club is a party with dance and good food and byob you drop off at the bar to be served as requested. In a separate part of the club is an area where people are naked. Clothing is not an option to enter that area. You enter as a couple and it is not pushy. If you want to talk to someone acknowledge them. If you don't, don't. Same thing at resorts that are clothing optional.
Any swapping we did we called soft swing. To each their own. The point is don't be discouraged. Just because you mingle does not mean you have to do anything. Someone pressuring you will be promptly removed. Sometimes we went to parties just because it was fun. Only once did we bring someone to our room that we met at a party. Any couple we met and eventually played with we had dinner at one of our homes or out. There were times we met and never ended up enjoying each other physically. It wasn't like ordering a massage and finding out who the masseuse was later. It is laid back and fun. In our experiences we always came away thinking they were as fortunate as us. We all looked better without or clothes.
 
That brings up an interesting situation in the swinging/swapping world ....

DISCUSSION QUESTION:

Has anyone ever been to a party where one of the participants was too big for one of the other participants to even want to try to be with?

What happens if someone, a man or a woman, is shocked to the point of having to stop by what he or she sees when his or her partner-to-be is naked?

Has that ever happened to anyone or at a swingers/swap party they attended?

It must be really awkward, but the more I think about it I imagine it very easily could happen.

Besides a penis that's too big, I guess there's also the risk of too old? not attractive enough? too fat or too skinny for someone?

I guess a boiled down question would be, what happens when someone changes their mind (for whatever reason) AFTER they pair off with someone?

:oops:
Has anyone ever been to a party where one of the participants was too big for one of the other participants to even want to try to be with? - Yes. Twice. One of these times I managed to enjoy him but my best friend Georgie (and occasional lover) was unable to accommodate this guy. I was DEE-lightfully sore for a couple of days afterwards but sometimes the pain is worth the pleasure, if you get my drift. On the second occasion, the owner of said horse cock was mad keen on trying to push his weapon into women's asses all night and we just decided to smoke him and not let him ruin our insides.

What happens if someone, a man or a woman, is shocked to the point of having to stop by what he or she sees when his or her partner-to-be is naked? - Well, the golden rule of all good swinger's parties in 'No means, NO!' but I can see what you mean here. What happens if someone partners up with someone and when they de-kit they are just not a turn-on for that partner, right? Well, I still say, no means no, so provided you can politely and without any cruelty back out of the situation, it is better than going through a sexually weird situation with someone you're not attracted to.

There is also another scenario that I have made work in this situation, Liz! Let me know if you think I am either mean or just too damn kinky for my own good. If I have a 'swapee' or partner that is less than Chris Hemsworth-like in the looks department, I often get Steve to join us and I just focus on him physically, and let Mr or Mrs slightly less appealing play with me - eg; fuck me doggie style while I suck Steve, if you get my drift. It's amazing how accommodating we can be to those we don't initially find attractive once the real fun starts, and I always enjoy the sensation of additional hands, tongues or cocks.

Has that ever happened to anyone or at a swingers/swap party they attended? Yes - see answers above.

It must be really awkward, but the more I think about it I imagine it very easily could happen.

Besides a penis that's too big, I guess there's also the risk of too old? not attractive enough? too fat or too skinny for someone?

I guess a boiled down question would be, what happens when someone changes their mind (for whatever reason) AFTER they pair off with someone?
 
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