To win, we need to demonize conservatism

[Politruk]

Many of these are identified by profession and/or location, such as The Boeing Workers’ Rank-and-File Committee, or The Western Sydney University Rank-and-File Committee.

Organized in a various countries and including many industries in various sectors, these “Rank-and-File” committees are linked through the IWA-RFC, the International Workers Alliance of Rank and File Committees.

How exactly do these differ from unions?

 

[Politruk]

The Democrats will never win unless they deal with the fact that their voter base is conservative on economic issues and partially so on social issues.

What base in America is any less so?!

 

[HumpDayHoratio]

This premise is just plain stupid. There are conservatives and progressives in every political movement. Trump is not a conservative at all, if anything he is a radical right wing opportunist. And tell us how much good did labeling and demonizing do for your favoured candidate? If Harris had multiple brain cells she would have gone into the election promising big tax cuts for working people and increases for the wealthy. But terrified of losing the corporate dollar, the Democrats leadership chose to lose their voter base instead.

The Democrats will never win unless they deal with the fact that their voter base is conservative on economic issues and partially so on social issues. They were, and are judging by you and their leadership, out of touch with the voting public.

Spot on. Not only are they out of touch, they are so far off the reservation they may never find their way back. They’ve lost the working class. They’ve lost minorities, and even women were peeled off.

I watched as the Legacy Liberal Media smirked and scoffed as they repeated these demographic shifts, especially the non college educated man or woman. They can’t see their own arrogance…much less that they’ve become the party of rich coastal elites. They used to get away with saying they spoke for the “little guy”…the paradigm has shifted. Now they only speak for the chronically tone deaf.

 

[JaySecrets]

Guess you decided all America is tone deaf... except you

 

[Politruk]

N.B.: I'm talking about demonizing conservatism, not conservatives. It is a matter of ideas, not personalities.

 

[JaySecrets]

N.B.: I'm talking about demonizing conservatism, not conservatives. It is a matter of ideas, not personalities.

But you lefties don't HAVE ideas. You have a list of grievances. Thank God the rest of the country is waking up to that fact.

 

[AceDesSpades]

Yes. The Party of half-full. Dispute the label despite the spite.
The past as injustice, the present intolerable, a future possible only if we take control. Now.


The time for talk and compromise has been over for some time now. We must assume control of culture.

 

[UltraChad]

We do need to bear always in mind that the word "conservative" is as demonizable as "liberal." To poison the conservative brand, we need to out-demonize them. Start by pretending there is no difference that matters between "conservative" and "fascist" -- a pretense which in fact grows nearer to the truth every year. Unlike the difference between "liberal" and "communist."

Yes please do more of that, it worked so well for you,.

 

[UltraChad]

N.B.: I'm talking about demonizing conservatism, not conservatives. It is a matter of ideas, not personalities.

What conservatism do you want demonized?? Be specific.

 

[Politruk]

But you lefties don't HAVE ideas. You have a list of grievances. Thank God the rest of the country is waking up to that fact.

Democrats don't have ideas. Lefties do.

 

[Politruk]

What conservatism do you want demonized?? Be specific.

Everything listed in post #3.

 

[UltraChad]

Everything listed in post #3.

A bunch of lies and stupid.

Figured.

 

[UltraChad]

Democrats don't have ideas. Lefties do.

Democrats are lefties. Why do you compulsively lie about this??

 

[Politruk]

A bunch of lies and stupid.

Figured.

None of those things lists are defensible, least of all by you.

 

[UltraChad]

None of those things lists are defensible, least of all by you.

Already took most of it out.

Sticking your head up your ass and pretending otherwise won't make it true the way communism and social democracy are the same is true.

 

[Politruk]

Democrats are lefties. Why do you compulsively lie about this??

Because there is a real American left, and its existence matters, and it is to the left of the Democrats, and its influence in that party is negligible. Not even an innocuous, vanilla, more-or-leftist social democrat like Bernie Sanders can get the Dem nomination.

If he had it, he could've beaten Trump. Many voters in 2016 were wavering between Trump and Sanders, seeing both as anti-establishment. But even harmless old Sanders was too anti-establishment for the Democrats.

 

[Politruk]

Already took most of it out.

Not in this thread, you haven't.

 

[Politruk]

Ever since 1980, the right and the GOP have been demonizing everyone and everything to the left of Reagan. I'm just talking about fighting back for a change,

 

[UltraChad]

Not in this thread, you haven't.

No across several others.

No need to re-hash what we established was bullshit yesterday.

 

[UltraChad]

Ever since 1980, the right and the GOP have been demonizing everyone and everything to the left of Reagan. I'm just talking about fighting back for a change,

You guys honestly do it to yourselves.

You're authoritarians trying to dress up your institutionalized extortion/robbery scams as "for the working class" as you literally take all their shit and entitle yourself to their labor.

NONE of you have it in you to do most of anything you propose for the nation in your own states because you know it would collapse that fucker. You lie to yourselves and each other so much almost none of you even believe your own bullshit.

You should be demonized.

 

[Politruk]

No across several others.

No need to re-hash what we established was bullshit yesterday.

You've never in any thread made any good, or even coherent or intelligible, case for supply-side economics, or American exceptionalism, or states' rights, or producerism, or anything listed in post #3.

 

[UltraChad]

You've never in any thread made any good, or even coherent or intelligible, case for supply-side economics, or American exceptionalism, or states' rights, or producerism, or anything listed in post #3

They work, because states are things and producerism is obviously true. People that contribute to society are worth more to society than drains on society. Objective facts.

And most of the stuff that isn't totally unhinged from reality like neocon warhawkery I did. BTW.... it's not 2004 bud. The warhawks are on the other side.

 

[Politruk]

They work, because states are things and producerism is obviously true.

See? Nothing even coherent or intelligible.

 

[UltraChad]

See? Nothing even coherent or intelligible.

See, keep your head planted where it's warm and smelly.

 

[JaySecrets]

Democrats don't have ideas. Lefties do.

yeah... "Eat the rich." America didn't agree. Byeee.