War on the "Trolls"

[Extreme Bohunk]

One other scenario I found amusing (not a troll exactly) was when I released Chapter 7 of My Fair Slut. One reader wrote back saying that it wasn't long enough and she had to wait too long to read it so "All your other stories geot 5s but this one gets a 1!"

I didn't realize I was writing to please her specifically. I'm so naive!

But she's your biggest fan!
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[Recidiva]

I didn't realize I was writing to please her specifically. I'm so naive!

Just for the record, you're ALL expected to write to please me specifically. Didn't you get the memo?

 

[Extreme Bohunk]

Just for the record, you're ALL expected to write to please me specifically. Didn't you get the memo?

Yes, and I gave it the same care and attention I give all memos

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[minsue]

*ssshhh*

Shattering illusions isn't nice.

Sincerely,
ElSol

. .

 

[Boratus]

But she's your biggest fan!

LMAO!

 

[Boratus]

Just for the record, you're ALL expected to write to please me specifically. Didn't you get the memo?

Oh so YOU were the one that sent that!

 

[Recidiva]

Yes, and I gave it the same care and attention I give all memos

http://www.sinclairanddrummond.co.uk/images/prods/papershredder.jpg

Just as much care as I put into writing it, we're perfect for each other. You must write me a story!

 

[Recidiva]

Oh so YOU were the one that sent that!

In triplicate!

 

[BlackShanglan]

I think that's the opinion already held by many...that all "non-trolls" give them 5's.

Well, that's certainly the case with mine ...

Seriously, I think that vamplawyer has the right of it. I have seen a least one author complaining about trolls on an H-rated work whose writing I've never really thought that good. What makes us so sure that it's the low scores that are wrong? If I'd voted the story in question, it would have been a quite honest three. And that would have set off a new round of complaints about vicious, evil trolls.

I, too, have been the recipient of positive votes that made me skeptical. I think my chaptered work my worst writing, and about once a month I seriously consider taking it off the site because it embarasses me. It's gooey, sugary, sticky, and badly written to boot, with serious problems managing the switching third person POV and inconsistent characterization of the male lead. Please don't read it; it's mostly there to remind me that I really can be an awful writer, and it doesn't do to get too pleased with the stories that went slightly less badly. And yet it keeps its little H's, and now and then I get positive feedback on it. I suppose that it does have its appeal here and there, but on the whole I think it so much worse than other stories I've written that I can't understand why the scores are so similar. Most of the chapters top the score of my Pope piece, which I think in every way superior and which I really quite love. It's a strange world. But it's so much easier to tolerate strange tastes in others when they lead to 5's for things we're not fond of than when they land 1's on our favorites.

I wonder how you bring that up in a conversation.

'Honey, can you wear a wig while we do it?'

And I thought

"Babe... I really want to fuck you in the ass." was awkward.

There's always "Sweetie, do you mind if I run down to the pool shed for a moment?"

I find myself wondering those things myself. How do you tell someone that you've got a bizarre fetish? Then I realize that I've somehow negotiated some rather amazing territory with the SO ("Dear one, I do happen to write equine pornography under the character of a gender-confused horse. That won't put you off flogging me, will it?"), and it's a little less of a mystery.

For what it's worth, this is how Krafft-Ebing records the thing being managed:

Case 98. Fetishism.

A lady relates that in the bridal night and in the night following her husband contented himself with kissing her, and running his fingers through the wealth of her tresses. (Note from Shanglan - what a lovely phrase. The good doctor is not without poetry.) He then fell asleep. In the third night Mr. X. produced an immense wig, with enormously long hair, and begged his wife to put it on. As soon as she had done so, he richly compensated her for his neglected marital duties. In the morning he showed again extreme tenderness, whilst he caressed the wig. When Mrs. X. removed the wig she lost at once all charm for her husband.

Mrs. X. recognized this as a hobby (!), and readily yielded to the wishes of her husband, whom she loved dearly, and whose libido depended on the wearing of the wig. It was remarkable, however, that a wig had the desired effect only for a fortnight or three weeks at a time. It had to be made of thick, long hair, no matter of what colour.

The result of this marriage was, after five years, two children and a collection of seventy-two wigs.

Personally, I think the answer is in that "richly compensated" line. Sounds to me like she learned to rather look forward to the wig coming out.

Shanglan

 

[Stella_Omega]

What a gem, Shanglan!
And a fetishist offers perfect mind control opportunities to their partner, too. She has a headache? no problem- no wig...

 

[BlackShanglan]

What a gem, Shanglan!
And a fetishist offers perfect mind control opportunities to their partner, too. She has a headache? no problem- no wig...

Yes, Krafft-Ebing is full of evocative little stories and some rather touching lines, considering what it is (a casebook). I'm always moved by the man who, evidently in response to his fixation on a childhood playmate, fetishized limping to such an extent that he could only carry through with sex if the woman limped (preferably in the left foot). He was miserable - near the point of suicide at times with this problem - but still had scruples for which I rather admire him. He stated that he had considered simply marrying a woman who limped in the left foot, but could not do it. It would be ignoble and wrong, he said, to marry a woman whom he could not love for her soul, but only for the accident of her bodily deformation.

Somewhere under the outward humor of it, there's a decent person trying to do what is right. I liked him for that. In fact, now that I think of it, he could make rather a good character in a story ...

Shanglan

 

[Stella_Omega]

I was always moved by the comedic tragedy of Sasher-Masoch, that poor, poor, miserable man.

 

[elsol]

Just for the record, you're ALL expected to write to please me specifically. Didn't you get the memo?

You have to tell us what you like... I can't read minds you know.

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[elsol]

I find myself wondering those things myself. How do you tell someone that you've got a bizarre fetish? Then I realize that I've somehow negotiated some rather amazing territory with the SO ("Dear one, I do happen to write equine pornography under the character of a gender-confused horse. That won't put you off flogging me, will it?"), and it's a little less of a mystery.

Yeah... but it's even weirder when you tell her and she's ALL up in that shit.

It's like "Babe, I think I'm a sicko and you just blew past me like I was standing still. You sick, sick bitch! I knew I liked you for a reason!"

Sincerely,
ElSol

 

[Stella_Omega]

Yeah... but it's even weirder when you tell her and she's ALL up in that shit.

It's like "Babe, I think I'm a sicko and you just blew past me like I was standing still. You sick, sick bitch! I knew I liked you for a reason!"

Sincerely,
ElSol

that's when you know it could be real love...
*sigh* how romantic!

 

[simply_cyn]

Unfortunately, some people have nothing better to do than black-ball stories over things they create in their minds and they figure if they can't hurt you any other way then attack something they CAN. What I've learned is that the ratings don't really matter ... that comes and goes. What I DO look at is how many hits did my story get? AND ... feedback, to me, is the most important. If someone would take enough time to e-mail me, give me positive or negative feedback or beg for me to continue one of my stories, then that's really all I need.

Trolls or people that thrive on hurting others through manipulation and, honestly, lies ... they can rot in their own personal hell for all I care.

Just try to take the bad with the good ... overall, it's about the writing, not the idiots trying to make it ahead in this world through bullshit.

 

[Liar]

Liar....
My whole thought behind that is simply to make those.... less then happy with you people have to show that they are being dicks....

if you read one of my stories and it sucks then by all means give it the 1 or 2 it deserves..... but if I sit there and see that there are 25 votes on a story and the rating is a 4.86.... and then suddenly I see three or four 1s in a row.... then I am going to know that its just sour nasty grapes by those people

Then again, you're sane. Trust me, not all writers are.

I read a decent, far from great story a while ago, voted a 3 and sent a privarte feedback with my thoughts on it.

The reply was a long, sputtering profanity diatribe and a one-bomb raid.

This happened over and over, the complaints or retaliations not always as heads on. Most often just an angry email back. Never complaining about the feedback, always about the vote.

...until I gave up revealing who I was, and just voted instead.

 

[cantdog]

No one sane did that, Liar. Not that it leaves a lot of pornographers after subtracting them.

 

[cantdog]

It might be nice sometime to get all medieval on someone. D'you think?

Nah. Too much effort.

 

[elsol]

It might be nice sometime to get all medieval on someone. D'you think?

Nah. Too much effort.

And by too much effort, you mean the difficulty of picking the person most deserving of medieval treatment especially with some of the schlock that gets posted.

sincerely,
elsol

 

[cantdog]

Ya do hate to leave anyone out. Epecially anyone deserving. But then it's a full time job, man.

 

[Liar]

Ya do hate to leave anyone out. Epecially anyone deserving. But then it's a full time job, man.

But oh so satisfying

 

[elsol]

But oh so satisfying

The problem is...

Then it would make US trolls, and all of a sudden the AH would be flooded with writers who whine a lot about trolls and actually DESERVED the 1's.

Complaining about trolling is bad enough, but I couldn't stomach if the whiner deserved to be 1-bombed.

Sincerely,
Elsol

 

[Recidiva]

You have to tell us what you like... I can't read minds you know.

Sincerely,
ElSol

That's a shame. I like it when people read my mind. Damn. Is that too much to ask?

I mean, guys get all upset.

"I'm sorry, honey, I just can't be psychic for you."

I think they're just not trying.

This is my fetish.

Where is my author.

I'm going to cry now.

 

[Guest]

It might be nice sometime to get all medieval on someone. D'you think?

Nah. Too much effort.

Oh hellllllll yeah
Your wonderful