When did liberals fall in love with Islam/Islamics?

[Sean Renaud]

Yes, it is the right thing because they are in need. And we aren't talking about a psycho killer. We're talking about the teens running away from the psycho killer. Even if we were it wouldn't be right to let them freeze to death if you could prevent it.

Hillary does care of course, that's one place where she is better. Carson is better than Trump. Trump falls under the "if Trump was invading Hell I'd start a petition to save the devil."

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yes, it is the right thing because they are in need. And we aren't talking about a psycho killer. We're talking about the teens running away from the psycho killer. Even if we were it wouldn't be right to let them freeze to death if you could prevent it.

I find that, inviting a threat and practically begging to get fucked, out of some unexplained bleeding heart sentiment to be totally fucking insane.

Teens = military aged males and women strapped up with C4.

Fine, throw them a blanket, point a weapon at them and tell them to get the fuck off the porch of the house they claimed to hate so fucking much before it got cold...final offer for the M'uricuh haters.

Hillary does care of course, that's one place where she is better.

BAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Sucker....I can't believe you ACTUALLY buy her bullshit.

Carson is better than Trump. Trump falls under the "if Trump was invading Hell I'd start a petition to save the devil."

Trump is Clinton....they both want to get their special interest, and themselves paid. Neither of them give a fuck about America or it's people.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I find that, inviting a threat and practically begging to get fucked, out of some unexplained bleeding heart sentiment to be totally fucking insane.

Teens = military aged males and women strapped up with C4.



BAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Sucker....I can't believe you ACTUALLY buy her bullshit.



Trump is Clinton....they both want to get their special interest, and themselves paid. Neither of them give a fuck about America or it's people.

We're not inviting a threat, we're inviting the threatened knowing that there is no way of knowing 100% that none of the threateners mixed themselves in. (Aside from it would be rather stupid.)

Nope, teens equal those stupid drinking, pot head, non virgins that get slashed up for not following Sharia Law. Have you never watched a horror film in your life? Jason is essentially the mascot for religion.

I completely buy it because it's the truth. She has backed higher pay and other measures that would help us all.

Trump=/=Clinton. Seriously nobody in the history of American politics can be compared to Trump. That said I have no doubt at all that Trump loves America and it's people if for no other reason than he keeps the majority of his stuff here and a large chunk of his customers are here. That doesn't make him less foul mind you but still.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We're not inviting a threat, we're inviting the threatened knowing that there is no way of knowing 100% that none of the threateners mixed themselves in. (Aside from it would be rather stupid.)

No that's what you hope is happening because bleeding heart....

Reality is we are spreading our legs blindfolded at a truck stop glory hole hoping to god nothing nasty comes through.

Nope, teens equal those stupid drinking, pot head, non virgins that get slashed up for not following Sharia Law. Have you never watched a horror film in your life? Jason is essentially the mascot for religion.

And that dick coming through the Flying J glory hole out at mile marker 478 is disease free and attached to a really good looking guy!

You make a fine case for Jason though.

I completely buy it because it's the truth. She has backed higher pay and other measures that would help us all.

Trump=/=Clinton. Seriously nobody in the history of American politics can be compared to Trump. That said I have no doubt at all that Trump loves America and it's people if for no other reason than he keeps the majority of his stuff here and a large chunk of his customers are here. That doesn't make him less foul mind you but still.

I don't think it is, I think that's the bare minim licking she has to give to keep the villagers from showing up with torches and pitch forks.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Even if it's self interest that keeps her caring that seems to be more than we can expect of people not named Sanders. And honestly I'm not convinced Sanders "Cares" more just that he agrees with me. Richer proles make for richer rich people. Richer rich people do not by definition make richer proles or even richer rich people.

 

[RUlookingup]

We're not inviting a threat, we're inviting the threatened knowing that there is no way of knowing 100% that none of the threateners mixed themselves in. (Aside from it would be rather stupid.)

Nope, teens equal those stupid drinking, pot head, non virgins that get slashed up for not following Sharia Law. Have you never watched a horror film in your life? Jason is essentially the mascot for religion.

I completely buy it because it's the truth. She has backed higher pay and other measures that would help us all.

Trump=/=Clinton. Seriously nobody in the history of American politics can be compared to Trump. That said I have no doubt at all that Trump loves America and it's people if for no other reason than he keeps the majority of his stuff here and a large chunk of his customers are here. That doesn't make him less foul mind you but still.

"Nobody in the history of American politics can be compared to Trump? "
Time for Sean to do his homework. Notice Trump says "Make America great again", there was a time when people spoke the truth in this great nation. Teddy Roosevelt was one such man. He was a progressive but he had chutzpah.
There was a time when men actually owned a set of balls in this nation. You can look it up.

 

[RUlookingup]

“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”

Teddy Roosevelt

 

[PoppingTom]

That doesn't really even make sense.

What am I trying to incite out of who?

What are you playing now? The hugs and hot coco guy?

If it was -20 out and a convicted psyco murderer who's threatened me and my family for years from his cell gets released and comes knocking on my door in a T-shirt wanting to crash the couch cuz himz will ....

...get hugs and hot coco from you, if he mentions he's from Pakistan.

But if he's from Syria and the nicest boy in the world, you'd shoot him even without opening the door.

Yeah, we got it.

 

[PoppingTom]

The math isn't what backs up my claims ....

Not only the math. So far, you got nothing but diehard American exceptionalism: business without math. Your customers must love you.

You said Germany lost WWII because Hitler, and that's about as far as you ever go.

You are in total denial that losing your resources, having your country reduced to a pile of rubble and your military shredded to shit to the point that his people and military commanders lost faith in him had anything to do with your loss.

No, I never denied that. I said you won with tactics, and fucking up the military machinery is definitely part of war tactics. Offc ourse, you won by that. The fact that military commanders lost faith did less of it - except the group around Stauffenberg and Albert Speer, they were still fighting till Hitler was dead.

What I deny is that the damage of our cities, of the civil people, did anything to it. It had a huge impact after the war, but didn't help much for the victory.

You make the same mistake that Hitler made: to think you only need war tactics, no political tactics (that hugs and coco stuff). Even the most war-driven forces on earth would disagree with you.

 

[PoppingTom]

"Nobody in the history of American politics can be compared to Trump? "
..... Notice Trump says "Make America great again"....

Notice that this is his only halfway sane sentence.

 

[Sean Renaud]

"Nobody in the history of American politics can be compared to Trump? "
Time for Sean to do his homework. Notice Trump says "Make America great again", there was a time when people spoke the truth in this great nation. Teddy Roosevelt was one such man. He was a progressive but he had chutzpah.
There was a time when men actually owned a set of balls in this nation. You can look it up.

America IS great. We have our flaws to be certain but to claim we aren't great now, especially without making specific points is just to rally the troops to the idiot flag.

When was the last time we beat Japan at anything? Well I need a definition of anything 2014 we came in 2nd in the Olympics overall. and somehow I don't feel but so bad about losing to Russia in Winter Sports. What do you know? We won in 2012. Third in 2010, second in 2008.

We're still the number one economy in the fucking world and by a fairly healthy margin one might add. China is gaining on us but they are still no where near us. The EU is technically bigger than us but not only is the EU not really a country (they are what Republicans claim the United States is supposed to be but we long ago gave up on.) but that's it. Additionally while I personally doubt it at the moment a lot of people think the EU may dissolve back into separate countries. Apparently the pay off of a united economy isn't worth the disadvantages of a united economy. Still time will tell on that particular experiment.

Our military basically the best by any rational estimate. We have the most nukes but lets face it, nukes are really like fine China. It's nice to have around the house for if Jesus, Moses and Mohammed ever show up but you never actually use it. We spend more than the next 10 combined and many of those are allies. Aircraft carriers being a huge component of sea and air power in the modern world is another gap, we have 19. 19 of the 31 in the entire world. So pretty fucking great.

We still run Hollywood. I guess we suck in anime/mature cartoons.

We have seven of the top ten universities in the fucking world.

I'm not going to pretend we don't have problems because we do. We have the highest prison population on the planet, our drug laws are insane. Thanks to stupid Christians we have the highest abortion and unwanted pregnancy rates in the world. We still debate evolution and global warming instead of doing something about it. We don't have Universal Health Care. Our debt is high (though honestly it's exaggerated in it's importance.) We are underpaid and overworked (but that's a feature not a flaw. 1%!) But ultimately we are great.

 

[PoppingTom]

America IS great.

Well, yes, it is, but if a full testosteronized American like Trump says "Make America great again", he means "make America megalomaniac and oversized to ill in anything again, even if this fucks more things up then solving anything"

So many people in the world still admire the great American cars of the 60-70 - though they were inconvenient in everyday use.

 

[phrodeau]

What kind of pinko commie socialist heathen infidel says that America isn't great right now?

 

[Sean Renaud]

Meh, the car wasn't designed until the 90's. Until them idiots put boxes on wheels and thought it was cool. Though Impalas and a few other classics are right sexy. Can't lie. Specially with the right paint job.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Even if it's self interest that keeps her caring that seems to be more than we can expect of people not named Sanders.

If one is in the HC, education, tech, green energy industries or just a pointless bureaucrat there to regulate for the sake of giving you something to do for 20/hr there is an extremely high degree of probability that they will agree with you.

I assure you those in the transport, defense, weapons, petrol, coal and farming communities rightfully see her as a threat to their livelihoods and as such have no fucking reason in the universe to vote for her. Carson/Trump are far more caring than Hillary is if you fall into one of those categories.

...get hugs and hot coco from you, if he mentions he's from Pakistan.

There you go again with your made up lies....what is your obsession with Pakistan?

But if he's from Syria and the nicest boy in the world, you'd shoot him even without opening the door.

Yeah, we got it.

Nah...just leave him out in the cold, it's meaner and cheaper.

Not only the math. So far, you got nothing but diehard American exceptionalism: business without math. Your customers must love you.

Nope...that's all made up because you refuse to accept reality.

No, I never denied that. I said you won with tactics, and fucking up the military machinery is definitely part of war tactics.

What I deny is that the damage of our cities, of the civil people, did anything to it. It had a huge impact after the war, but didn't help much for the victory.

Your people and your cities are the heart of the military machinery. You can't wage war without them and their support. And in the end Hitler lost the support of his command structure and people because they got their shit pushed in, hard.

You make the same mistake that Hitler made:

I tried to take over the world almost won and got my ass kicked in the end because I got so fucking arrogant I bit off more than I could chew?

News to me.

to think you only need war tactics, no political tactics (that hugs and coco stuff). Even the most war-driven forces on earth would disagree with you.

Hitlers only fuck up was engaging Russia in the dead of winter before he had Europe on lock down and working for him. German arrogance got the best of him not his tactics or politics, he was fucking everyone up in that department because ruthless as all fuck.

Had he not done that the world could have very easily looked quite different today. Europe certainly would.

 

[Sean Renaud]

If those in defense see her as a threat it's simply because they are stupid. I've seen the charts. Obama didn't cut the military in any significant manner, certainly not for individuals. They still got their annual raises (unlike the rest of America) and the only big cut was the sequester which at worst is half his fault. Transportation fears her? WHY? I'll accept that might be possible since I don't know why they would think that. OBama hasn't hurt petrol and he's to the left of Hillary. So basically all the people who you claim are afraid of her simply don't pay attention.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If those in defense see her as a threat it's simply because they are stupid. I've seen the charts. Obama didn't cut the military in any significant manner, certainly not for individuals.

Their very good friends in the contractin' and weaponz buildin' world would disagree. Plus that means less cool guy toys for them on top of it so (D) isn't getting any brownie points with the military anytime soon.

Halliburton....Mercs...small arms manufacturers....big arms manufacturers and all their suppliers and their employees felt that sequester and they will remember that it wasn't a Republican POTUS that did it when they are in the booth.

There are no Democrats at Lockheed Martin, Halliburton or General Dynamics for a reason and they sure as fuck will not be voting for Clinton....because money.

They still got their annual raises (unlike the rest of America) and the only big cut was the sequester which at worst is half his fault.

That sequester cost a fuck ton of jobs/contracts...they won't be voting for more of that. They will be voting for more wa(R). Because they aren't stupid they know where the fuck their money comes from and it' ain't (D).

Transportation fears her? WHY? I'll accept that might be possible since I don't know why they would think that. OBama hasn't hurt petrol and he's to the left of Hillary. So basically all the people who you claim are afraid of her simply don't pay attention.

They continue to 'regulate' their jobs as close to as un-profitable as they possibly can, carbon tax the fucking shit out of them and then send EPA goons after them all the time to fuck their shit up any way they can. Rain on jobsite? Marshland! 3 million dollar fine + we are shutting down ALL of your operations and launching an investigation on you by about 17 alphabet agencies, have a nice day.

Then (D) turns around and gives, negative, CREATES their competition (green energy) via a couple hundred billion a large portion of which (D) took from THEM to fund the enemy.

Why in the fuck would they vote for more of that?

Damn near every trucker, roughneck and coal miner out there is (R) for a reason....money. R backs them, (D) sits around and comes up with more agencies to 'regulate' as much time and money out of them as possible. Why would they vote to make their life more difficult and their time less valuable?

They won't....
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[RUlookingup]

America IS great. We have our flaws to be certain but to claim we aren't great now, especially without making specific points is just to rally the troops to the idiot flag.

When was the last time we beat Japan at anything? Well I need a definition of anything 2014 we came in 2nd in the Olympics overall. and somehow I don't feel but so bad about losing to Russia in Winter Sports. What do you know? We won in 2012. Third in 2010, second in 2008.

We're still the number one economy in the fucking world and by a fairly healthy margin one might add. China is gaining on us but they are still no where near us. The EU is technically bigger than us but not only is the EU not really a country (they are what Republicans claim the United States is supposed to be but we long ago gave up on.) but that's it. Additionally while I personally doubt it at the moment a lot of people think the EU may dissolve back into separate countries. Apparently the pay off of a united economy isn't worth the disadvantages of a united economy. Still time will tell on that particular experiment.

Our military basically the best by any rational estimate. We have the most nukes but lets face it, nukes are really like fine China. It's nice to have around the house for if Jesus, Moses and Mohammed ever show up but you never actually use it. We spend more than the next 10 combined and many of those are allies. Aircraft carriers being a huge component of sea and air power in the modern world is another gap, we have 19. 19 of the 31 in the entire world. So pretty fucking great.

We still run Hollywood. I guess we suck in anime/mature cartoons.

We have seven of the top ten universities in the fucking world.

I'm not going to pretend we don't have problems because we do. We have the highest prison population on the planet, our drug laws are insane. Thanks to stupid Christians we have the highest abortion and unwanted pregnancy rates in the world. We still debate evolution and global warming instead of doing something about it. We don't have Universal Health Care. Our debt is high (though honestly it's exaggerated in it's importance.) We are underpaid and overworked (but that's a feature not a flaw. 1%!) But ultimately we are great.

We won't be great with Hillary or Bernie. We'll be heading down the wrong road. Hillary is basically a busted valise and Bernie lives in fantasy land. Trump 2016. Get used to it.

 

[Sean Renaud]

We won't be great with Hillary or Bernie. We'll be heading down the wrong road. Hillary is basically a busted valise and Bernie lives in fantasy land. Trump 2016. Get used to it.

With Hilary we'll basically maintain our greatness. We might get a little bump up or down but nothing drastic. Bernie on the other hand, given a Congress that isn't paralyzed will be a major boost in our greatness.

Trump may win, I highly, highly doubt it but it's possible. I don't believe that is the proper road at all.

What exactly is wrong with the road we're on?

 

[Iceprincess12]

Yes, it is the right thing because they are in need. And we aren't talking about a psycho killer. We're talking about the teens running away from the psycho killer. Even if we were it wouldn't be right to let them freeze to death if you could prevent it.

Can we talk more about psycho killers? I'm in the mood for some horror!

 

[Sean Renaud]

There is one behind Je'taime.

 

[PoppingTom]

Can we talk more about psycho killers? I'm in the mood for some horror!

Good point that.

If in the 60 or 70, they would do a movie called "The American Dream", it would be a supercorny, oversized in everything, family values adressing, heavy lachrymal pressing celebration of materialism.

The same movie in the 90 would be a socially critical roadmovie with hippies driving through ghost towns.

The same movie today would be a creepy splattering psycho killer horror movie full with smartphone teens playing paintball on places without mobile reception.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Being without cell phone coverage is not something to joke about cat reading newspaper.

 

[PoppingTom]

There you go again with your made up lies....what is your obsession with Pakistan?

We've got a thread about that.

Why don't you tell what's your obsession with Pakistan? You become almost a decent, warm and fuzzy kind of caring human being when it comes to Pakistanis.

Nah...just leave him out in the cold, it's meaner and cheaper.

See, that's why I said you don't give a fuck about America's security, you're just looking for an excuse to show your subhuman behavior. And you think you can't do anything wrong with picking on Syrians.

Nope...that's all made up because you refuse to accept reality.

Too bad you've got nothing to backup how I made up that you've got nothing to backup your "business without math"

Your people and your cities are the heart of the military machinery. You can't wage war without them and their support. And in the end Hitler lost the support of his command structure and people because they got their shit pushed in, hard.

Even if you'd be right at this: the tactics to bomb them into surrender haven't worked. You've bombed them heavily over a year, but you failed to reach Berlin. And Hitler only lost support of a few commanders, not about the command structure. Tha's why the coup d'etat of Stauffenberg
failed.

I mean, seriously: if Hitler would have nuked American cities (and he was close to be able to do that, he even developed a B-2 like bomber) - would you have surrendered immediately?

I tried to take over the world almost won and got my ass kicked in the end because I got so fucking arrogant I bit off more than I could chew?

Sounds pretty like your style.

Hitlers only fuck up was engaging Russia in the dead of winter before he had Europe on lock down and working for him. German arrogance got the best of him not his tactics or politics, he was fucking everyone up in that department because ruthless as all fuck.

Now you're playing the role of the allies and especially America's role down.

What about Hitler's politics (or the lack of it) upset so many brilliant German scientists, they decided to work for the Americans instead of Hitler to develop the atom bomb?

What about Hitler's politics (or the lack of it) made diehard enemies like the Soviets and America/Great Britain become allies? What if the right politics would have made the Western allies support him instead of the Russians?

 

[PoppingTom]

Being without cell phone coverage is not something to joke about cat reading newspaper.

The joke was the movie. The missing cell phone coverage adds to the creepiness.