When did liberals fall in love with Islam/Islamics?

[BotanyBoy]

Don't need to twist your words. This is what you said.

Now that clearly says that you don't care about them. so either you were lying then or you are lying now, which is it?

You're twisting them . I said I don't care who's son or daughter they are, not that I don't care about our military. I don't want any more of them endangered than possible but war is a dangerous business and they are the professionals.

OK here it is in the simplest of terms,

There you are simple isn't it.

I didn't ask for you math on tourism I asked for your math on the extrapolation of an entire nations direction and outcome of an imaginary war.

Better get crackin' with that math high speed.

Well there you are, you said it yourself the bombs destroy property. But the people are not in the property, they are in the shelters.

And they kill fuck tons of people.

People are in the property, none of these 3rd world shit holes have shelters for the common folks.

Didn't Hanoi teach you anything? So you've got bigger bombs now but it's the same ball game. Remember Einsteins definition of stupidity.

Yea it did, it taught us how to make so much money we had to do it again.

You think it's the same ball game? You had better wake up.

The USA is the rich kid in NATO. Everybody knows if you upset the rich kid they pick up their toys and go home.

LOL wouldn't you like to think so.

That was why it was withdrawn from the theatre of operations was it? Because the Serbs got lucky?

Yep had to make sure. It was back in use shortly after....still with people shooting blindly at it likely until this very day.

for such a cynical person you have tremendous faith in what your government and military tell you.

LOL no I don't, I was in the military and I saw some of the things we were capable of against even other 1st world nations with 'good' military gear like Israel and the UK and it was a joke.

Exactly No guarantees

Welcome to reality! And non of that what, butt or if really matters.

Oh really, You crushed the native Americans did you.

So the history books are all wrong.

Yep.

No the history books are all right you either didn't read them or considering your behavior you did read them and just made up a bunch of shit.

Proof is in the pudding.

No Guerilla war works when it has the support of the people.

That's why you must kill the supporters too, otherwise you're pissing up a flag pole. That's why precision strikes only as a policy is ultimate failure.

Doesn't say much for your generals does it? They are the ones who invite CNN and have them embedded into your forces.

I assure you that's not from the generals. That's from higher up than stars.

So you kill a huge chunk of the population but out in Syria you are killing the very people that ISIS doesn't give a shit about, in fact you are saving them a job. how does that work then?

If ISIS didn't give a shit about them they wouldn't be there trying to control them and they do have a large amount of support there.

In France Eisenhower implemented your idea.

He was bombing France, so he was not implementing my idea.

Still don't understand how guerilla war works do you.

LMFAO says the guy who can't even spell it to the guy who was living it on a professional level LMFAO!

Thank you for this little discussion. I've long wondered why it is that the Swiss can handle a free gun society without all the massacres and murders, but the Americans cannot. I think I am beginning to understand.

You have a wild imagination I'm sure you and all your hate for the USA will come up with something.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Can you ask questions with reason instead of Ali G questions?

You mean ask questions that allow you to ignore reality? No.

That's all. No fancy of your underdone history guesswork.

Oh so Germany was doing quite well in the final days of WWII then? They just gave up because Hitler? That's the steaming pile of bullshit you're sticking with?

LOL anything to protect your great leader.

Oh really?

Did you kill Goebbels, his wife and his kids? No, he did that himself.
Did you kill Hitlers very best friend, Albert Speer? You don't.

You even didn't kill Saddam Hussein. The Iraqis did.

And no, this is not ignorance from your side. You simply LYING !!!

You said name a war won, not a dictator/officials killed.

That's not me lying, that you either being dishonest or very bad at English.

It's not about winning, it's not about business

It is about business.

Man, these are not terrorist activities, these are WAR activities, because Syria is a WAR ZONE, that's why people flee out of it.

You are in total denial of reality.

Except you'd shoot the Syrian and hug the Saudi. Because America.

That's why I call you A FUCKING LIAR !!!!!!

You call me a liar because of your hyper socialist idealism and borderline Nazi loving patriorage.

 

[PoppingTom]

You mean ask questions that allow you to ignore reality?

No, I mean asking questions that are questions and not piles of insults and LIES.

Oh so Germany was doing quite well in the final days of WWII then? They just gave up because Hitler? That's the steaming pile of bullshit you're sticking with?

Again, no fancy of your guesswork. You're just trolling.

You said name a war won, not a dictator/officials killed.

Again, you're LYING !!

It is about business.

Without math. You're funny.

You call me a liar because ....

You LIE. And you know that. That's all.

 

[BotanyBoy]

No, I mean asking questions that are questions and not piles of insults and LIES.




Again, no fancy of your guesswork. You're just trolling.



Again, you're LYING !!



Without math. You're funny.



You LIE. And you know that. That's all.

Full and complete denial of reality.....

 

[PoppingTom]

Full and complete denial of reality.....

You give up?

Better that.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

You give up?

Better that.

dude, you are the poster child for how mentally fucked socialist are. have you thought about modeling?

 

[BotanyBoy]

You give up?

Better that.

You're the one who's given up....look at you.

Pressed by reality you were reduced to screamin' 'liar' over and over again....

Can't even admit you got your ass beat in WWII because you admire your greatest leader so much.

 

[PoppingTom]

You're the one who's given up....

Am I? I can always backup my stuff, and I 'll still do if needed.

You? Still waiting for your business math of the Vietnam war.

...you were reduced to screamin' 'liar' over and over again....

No, I'm just too lazy to explain, as everybody knows and can see you're a liar.

I just feel the urge to tell you, as others are even too lazy to do that. You should know that, you shouldn't die ignorant of this. You're a liar, that's all.

Can't even admit you got your ass beat in WWII because you admire your greatest leader so much.

And again, you're lying. Why are you doing this? You don't get points by anybody about it.

I never denied Germany got its ass beaten, I never denied it was because of blind obedience to Hitler. I just deny the conclusion you're won because of this.

Shall we repeat everything from the thread, or do you bring something new for the sake of variety ?

 

[lovecraft68]

Has anybody come up with the simple truth that its trendy to support Islam?

Or the other simple truth that liberal want to protect anything that anyone has a legitimate issue with?

The liberal are the punk college draft dodgers who protested the soldiers coming home from Vietnam

The liberals are those that mock the families of soldiers in wars they don't believe in,

The liberals will watch a white man beaten by blacks because to stop them would be racist

They will watch a woman raped and stoned to death by muslims because it would be racist to stop them

In closing the liberals are the most cowardly and gutless of creatures. Spineless worms so afraid they may offend someone or look 'racist' that they will watch people die, then post all over the net who they think is racist and who should be ruined next for not being 'liberal'

 

[Sean Renaud]

Has anybody come up with the simple truth that its trendy to support Islam?

Or the other simple truth that liberal want to protect anything that anyone has a legitimate issue with?

The liberal are the punk college draft dodgers who protested the soldiers coming home from Vietnam

The liberals are those that mock the families of soldiers in wars they don't believe in,

The liberals will watch a white man beaten by blacks because to stop them would be racist

They will watch a woman raped and stoned to death by muslims because it would be racist to stop them

In closing the liberals are the most cowardly and gutless of creatures. Spineless worms so afraid they may offend someone or look 'racist' that they will watch people die, then post all over the net who they think is racist and who should be ruined next for not being 'liberal'

Liberals support Islam? Not thinking that we should be bigotted towards them and "supporting" them are different things. Except to the right wing where you either nuke something from orbit or you love it.

What do people have legit issues with that liberals defend. It's generally that religion or bigotry has given people a completely illigit beef that they need to get knocked out of their mouth.

The liberals on this board have served in the military as much as the RWCJ has. And the only scum who laugh at the families are Westboro and they sure as fuck ain't libs.

No lib would watch a white man be beaten to death because stopping it would be racist nor let a woman be raped because stopping it would be racist. That's just shit you're making up.

Generally libs are far too kind about calling out the racist shit stains our opponents have become and it really has allowed it to get to this point. I mean maybe if the Republican leadership including Ben "I don't think a Muslim should run the country" Carson and Donald "I'd go after their families" Trump weren't significant parts of the party instead of paraiahs you'd have a point. But the reality is that they are. As much of this is your fault fault for being bigots we on the left should apologize. We clearly failed to police our own and deserve this for not taking you to task day in and day out without stopping for anything.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Am I? I can always backup my stuff, and I 'll still do if needed.

All you've done is hysterically call me a liar and twist my words.

You? Still waiting for your business math of the Vietnam war.

Why? The math isn't what backs up my claims despite your random fixation with it. That's why you absolutely IGNORE where that money was spent because then you would see that I'm right.

No, I'm just too lazy to explain, as everybody knows and can see you're a liar.

I just feel the urge to tell you, as others are even too lazy to do that. You should know that, you shouldn't die ignorant of this. You're a liar, that's all.

No you don't want to face reality.

I never denied Germany got its ass beaten, I never denied it was because of blind obedience to Hitler. I just deny the conclusion you're won because of this.

You said Germany lost WWII because Hitler, and that's about as far as you ever go.

You are in total denial that losing your resources, having your country reduced to a pile of rubble and your military shredded to shit to the point that his people and military commanders lost faith in him had anything to do with your loss. Because you're in denial of reality or it would make me right and you just can't stand that because you really want war to mean hot coco and campfire songs.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Liberals support Islam? Not thinking that we should be bigotted towards them and "supporting" them are different things.

Rolling out the redcarpet for thousands of people who up until their precious leaders fucked them up hated us and wanted America destroyed....then rabidly attacking and shit talking ANYONE who might so much as question that policy.

What do you call that?

Sounds supportive to me....dumb redneck neighbors= bad and evil!! Syrians good and = friends!!

Bashing Christians non stop all day everyday = cool !!! But god damn you better NOT say anything that isn't pure dick sucking when it comes to Muslims. Not in a liburhul town.....no siree!

But they don't support Islam....nope. LOL

 

[Sean Renaud]

Rolling out the redcarpet for thousands of people who up until their precious leaders fucked them up hated us and wanted America destroyed....then rabidly attacking and shit talking ANYONE who might so much as question that policy.

What do you call that?

Sounds supportive to me....dumb redneck neighbors= bad and evil!! Syrians good and = friends!!

Bashing Christians non stop all day everyday = cool !!! But god damn you better NOT say anything that isn't pure dick sucking when it comes to Muslims. Not in a liburhul town.....no siree!

But they don't support Islam....nope. LOL

Taking care of refugees like a civilized nation. Their religion doesn't even factor into it.

Dumb redneck neighbors too whom we come a runnin when they get flooded by hurricanes or burned down by fires. Even when they are Texas and cut their emergency response funding prior to fire service.

Bad Syrians in trouble. We help all the same.

So yep.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Taking care of refugees like a civilized nation. Their religion doesn't even factor into it.

Dumb redneck neighbors too whom we come a runnin when they get flooded by hurricanes or burned down by fires. Even when they are Texas and cut their emergency response funding prior to fire service.

Bad Syrians in trouble. We help all the same.

So yep.

So basically fuck security because civilized nation....lol

Still doesn't change the fact that liburulz will go to bat for people that fuckin' hate them over their own community if that's what the Pee Cee narrative calls for.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So basically fuck security because civilized nation....lol

Still doesn't change the fact that liburulz will go to bat for people that fuckin' hate them over their own community if that's what the Pee Cee narrative calls for.

I don't believe them to be a significant enough security risk to ignore the obligations of a civilized nation no. And regardless it's not about their religion one bit. I'm not saying don't take the Christians or assorted other non Muslims.

That's because bigots are never considered part of the community. At best they are people you tolerate because you don't have a choice.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't believe them to be a significant enough security risk to ignore the obligations of a civilized nation no. And regardless it's not about their religion one bit. I'm not saying don't take the Christians or assorted other non Muslims.

That's because bigots are never considered part of the community. At best they are people you tolerate because you don't have a choice.

See....to question the sanity of letting a bunch of people who were just calling for your destruction to come crash = bigot

Want better trade agreements? Bigot

Don't want to let fuck tons of high risk haters in the front door? Bigot

Don't want to get fucked up the ass even harder for shit HC? Bigot

Because that's the fallback to anyone who questions teh narrative. Liburhul Pee Cee at it's finest lol what a bunch of assholes.

 

[Sean Renaud]

See....to question the sanity of letting a bunch of people who were just calling for your destruction to come crash = bigot

Want better trade agreements? Bigot

Don't want to let fuck tons of high risk haters in the front door? Bigot

Don't want to get fucked up the ass even harder for shit HC? Bigot

Because that's the fallback to anyone who questions teh narrative. Liburhul Pee Cee at it's finest lol what a bunch of assholes.

Your questioning it because of their religion not anything else. So yes it does equal bigot.

Everybody wants "better" trade agreements. Though virtually nobody actually has a goddamn clue what our trade agreements actually entail. Has nothing to do with bigotry whatsoever.

Nobody wants to get fucked up the ass harder for HC. Our disagreement is over wether we should have waited until 2030 to do anything because in 2010 it wasn't possible to do everything. Again that's not bigotry. Bigotry is a lot of the people who hate on it with positively no reason other than Obama did it. You know people who think Romneycare wasn't bad but Obamacare is the work of the sheer devil.

Very rarely to people actually question the narrative. They simply lob rocks because the narrative isn't actually want they want to attack and everybody knows it just the PC crowd is generally too polite to call them out. Or rather it wouldn't be PC.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Your questioning it because of their religion not anything else. So yes it does equal bigot.

Funny I dont' have a problem with Indonesians or or Kuwaiti Muslims, so no it doesn't equal bigot but I'll let you pretend it does. Keep ignoring the fact that they came from area with the highest concentration of some of the most violent terrorist out there today.

Or the fact that right up until recently they were huge supporters of other violent terrorist organizations and had been on a near 30 year "Fuck the USA kill them all!! Death to the west!" hate propaganda campaign.

If you acknowledge those facts questioning letting them or wanting tighter security on who we do let in might make sense but would go against the narrative and make you a bigot so just keep ignoring it....so bigot for non lemmings it is!

Everybody wants "better" trade agreements. Though virtually nobody actually has a goddamn clue what our trade agreements actually entail. Has nothing to do with bigotry whatsoever.

Until you disagree with a liburhul about what a better trade agreement means...then you just hate brown people.

Nobody wants to get fucked up the ass harder for HC.

I'm pretty sure democrats nationwide cheered the fucking shit out of it like it was the greatest fucking thing since sliced bread.

Very rarely to people actually question the narrative. They simply lob rocks because the narrative isn't actually want they want to attack and everybody knows it just the PC crowd is generally too polite to call them out. Or rather it wouldn't be PC.

The PC crowd screams 'racist' every time anyone goes against the narrative.

It's seriously as bad as the Teahaddist blaming Mexicans for terkin' derr jerbz.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Funny, you said Muslims every time. You never seem to specify so how am I supposed to know. And since your argument is about how a certain percentage of them are by default extremists because of their religion you not having a problem with Indonesian or Kuwaiti Muslims is terribly convenient and probably 100% about the fact that they aren't in the middle of a civil war/insurgency whatever and don't need to come here. If they were you'd have the same concerns.

PS: They don't come from Washington DC. So clearly they aren't from the highest concentration and we both know it.

The same hate propaganda we are spewing right goddamn now but a large chunk of us actively fight against? CHECK.

Tighter security isn't possible. We either do the right thing and accept refugees or we send them back to be slaughtered. There really is no other option here. But hey lots of us are bigots and it's important we recognize it.

Chinese people are generally considered yellow. While we DO clearly dislike brown people the reality is that those countries aren't fucking us and to the extent they "are" it's not like we could really do much differently with a new trade deal to begin with. I mean if we had diamond we wouldn't get "screwed" by various African nations. And nobody seems to care if we fuck China in fact I can't name anybody (save myself specifically on energy technology) who thinks we should be giving China better deals than they have now.

That's cus you have selective hearing. Except the Teahaddists are being racists and we engage them like they are human beings instead of treating them like scum. Which is like I said the PC crowd really underplays its hand.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If they were you'd have the same concerns.

No I wouldn't...there are only like 3 other nations currently out there that have ever been anywhere nearly as hostile to the US and western culture in general for the past 30 years than Syria. If a fuck ton of Iranians or N. Koreans suddenly wanted to come in I'd be just as concerned. Syria, Iran and N. Korea have been a pretty domineering triad of fuck the USA for some time now.

PS: They don't come from Washington DC. So clearly they aren't from the highest concentration and we both know it.

LOL

Tighter security isn't possible. We either do the right thing and accept refugees...

Right thing for who? Not the USA....

Fuck them, they made their bed and they need to go get fucked by their precious Islam in it.

That's cus you have selective hearing. Except the Teahaddists are being racists and we engage them like they are human beings instead of treating them like scum. Which is like I said the PC crowd really underplays its hand.

Maybe you do, I don't think you do, I think you sling shit at them every bit as well if not better than they do you.

And it's not selective hearing....racist/bigot/hater is the classic libby fall back when their bleeding heart says yes cuz warm fuzzy feelz but all logic is telling them point blank they are fucking morons and or total assholes.

In case that was referring to ACA you must be joking...as far as (D) goes it was the most heavily sucked off piece of legislation since the fuckin' Brady bill.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Being against North Koreans would be just as bigotted. Maybe it's the nation not the religion though. Doesn't change the facts.

The right thing period. They made their bed, and when they stepped up, did as we asked and tried to fix things we fuck them harder. We really will deserve it when something happens to us if this is who we are.

And I think again teh current realm of Republican Candidates is utter evidence that we have failed catastrophically to check the madness.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Being against North Koreans would be just as bigotted. Maybe it's the nation not the religion though. Doesn't change the facts.

It's the nation/people.

What facts? That's it's colossally stupid to open up the doors to let throngs of known hostile people in? True...doesn't change taht.

The right thing period.

According to WHO?? a bunch of nut job libs who think bringing Syrians here is a brilliant idea for some insane reason?

That doesn't cut it.

They made their bed, and when they stepped up, did as we asked and tried to fix things we fuck them harder.

They didn't do what we asked, so we fucked them harder, and everyone called us ogers and demanded we leave so they could have their precious Islam in charge. And they got it.

We really will deserve it when something happens to us if this is who we are.

This is the obvious sentiment of the left who is doing all they can to invite it....

And I think again teh current realm of Republican Candidates is utter evidence that we have failed catastrophically to check the madness.

Hillary is not any fucking better.....Sanders is the ONLY person running for office who has a shred of anything resembling a soul.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Hillary is worse than MOST of them if we're being honest but at least she apparently has the common sense to be quiet about not wanting to do the right thing and help people in need. But honestly she's at the least worse than anybody not named Carson, Trump or Cruz.

 

[PoppingTom]

Rolling out the redcarpet for thousands of people who up until their precious leaders fucked them up hated us and wanted America destroyed....then rabidly attacking and shit talking ANYONE who might so much as question that policy.

What do you call that?

What I call that viewpoint?

The nice and decent expression is :lie.

The more real one is: incitement. And That's what most of your Statements are.

 

[BotanyBoy]

What I call that viewpoint?

The nice and decent expression is :lie.

Oh just like your delusions of winning wars via hot coco? Yea...that works both ways!

The more real one is: incitement. And That's what most of your Statements are.

That doesn't really even make sense.

What am I trying to incite out of who?

I'm thinking this is another English fail.

Hillary is worse than MOST of them if we're being honest but at least she apparently has the common sense to be quiet about not wanting to do the right thing and help people in need. But honestly she's at the least worse than anybody not named Carson, Trump or Cruz.

Just because someone is in need doesn't mean helping them is the right thing.

If it was -20 out and a convicted psyco murderer who's threatened me and my family for years from his cell gets released and comes knocking on my door in a T-shirt wanting to crash the couch cuz himz will freeze to death in 5 min? Fuck em....that's the right thing to do.

Hillary is worse because she has lots of people buying her bullshit. She doesn't give 1 pump of rat shit about any of us and will pimp us out to megacorp just as fast as you can say POTUS.

Carson and Cruz yea because at least she's not a fuckin' theocratic whack job....she's not any better or even that much different than Trump except for the fact she's a better blowing sunshine up liburhul ass, both of them want to scam the fuckin' piss out of the country for their buddies.