Pmann’s Reasons Why Women Won’t Talk To Me (You) Thread

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

Watching that happen in real time is the worst, I did the other day. And they wonder why there are so few posts from women in there.

I am not sure slow PMing shame is why so few women post there. I could be wrong, but most of that section ends up giving me the heebie jeebies and I have a high threshold for creepy. Hell, I am creepy. It did not take me long to nope out of there after reading a bit though. I suspect a significant portion of the "women" who are willing to post ads in there are dudes. Generally, the only actual women I see, that I really believe are women, are there flaming dudes. Of course, there are exceptions, likely many, but that is the area I trust least on lit. I check there from time to time for this purpose.

The second most common reason I don't talk to someone is because I recognize them from creeping all over the personals. Rude, maybe, but true.

 

[Mrtenant]

I am not sure slow PMing shame is why so few women post there. I could be wrong, but most of that section ends up giving me the heebie jeebies and I have a high threshold for creepy. Hell, I am creepy. It did not take me long to nope out of there after reading a bit though. I suspect a significant portion of the "women" who are willing to post ads in there are dudes. Generally, the only actual women I see, that I really believe are women, are there flaming dudes. Of course, there are exceptions, likely many, but that is the area I trust least on lit. I check there for time to time for this purpose.

The second most common reason I don't talk to someone is because I recognize them from creeping all over the personals. Rude, maybe, but true.

Not that creepy, J. Not that I can tell anyway. As far as personals go, the old internet personals sterotype of big unwashed yucky guy living in mom's basement posing as a woman comes to mind. I have read some of those over the years, and it's hard for me to take seriously on any of them- like, you must be joking!

 

[PlayfulLilDarlin]

I'll talk to pretty much anyone as long as it's a respectful conversation. And I've had tons, about tv and movies, about games, about hobbies and travel, a whole bunch about cooking and recipes. I enjoy good conversation and I'm pretty upfront on if there will be flirting or not, and if the conversation skews a direction, I don't want I'll remind once. After that, I'll just put them on iggy.
Respectful conversation includes respecting boundaries.

 

[may_I_please]

1) having a regular conversation, swapping a couple of pleasant messages then bam “what are your tits like and size”

Swift conversational end

2) form PMs: paragraphs and paragraphs that have clearly been copied and pasted with a change in the first line to make it seem more personal

but why?

 

[AmberLGreen]

It might with someone else! Lol

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

Not that creepy, J. Not that I can tell anyway. As far as personals go, the old internet personals sterotype of big unwashed yucky guy living in mom's basement posing as a woman comes to mind. I have read some of those over the years, and it's hard for me to take seriously on any of them- like, you must be joking!

Well, I do prefer to identify as twisted, deliciously twisted. I guess it seems kind of crazy, considering I barely bat an eyelash at a stranger being all "I just jerked off to your titties, u made me cum so hard, I’d love to cum on you." Obviously, Not exactly my cup of tea, but that rings more true than Mr. HorseCockBillionaire and Ms. MeWantGangBang2000DudesTonight over there. Somehow, I think Mr. HorseCockBillionaire is going to leave me disappointed in more ways than I can fathom.

 

[Massive Grooves]

This…


Is an interesting thread.

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

This…


Is an interesting thread.

Would you expect any less from a Pmann thread?

 

[Lord Pmann]

The shotgun approach. Send it out to a 100 women and if you get even one response, count it as a win?

That must be a really depressing way to get e-laid.

This is the same method the Prince of Nigeria uses to find someone to help him get his riches out of his corrupt country.

I say, if it’s good enough for Prince Doctor Reverend Chikezie, Esquire, it’s good enough for me.

 

[Dribble]

This reminds me of a lot of the guys in the personals. Woman leaves a personal and suddenly her inbox blows up but if she doesn't respond to him quickly enough he starts putting her on blast in that same thread. She must be a bitch for not replying to him above all the others.

Any PM I get. Has to at least give me something to reply to. Saying "hey there" doesn't work. I also hate "what's up?" While I can reply to that. I rarely do.
Make PMs engaging.

How bout those Kraken? First place baby

 

[lifeis2short2b]

Let's face it. Lots of guys are assholes...... On a site which is probably dominated by guys, as posted on this thread women get inundated with pm's Many. "Good" guys are ignored. I also think many women like to talk the talk but......
Don't get all worked up. It's an opinion and I know how people get upset when you share your own.

 

[Cat]

Oh... Well..I do kinda, sometimes.. maybe.. want to talk

 

[Dribble]

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Oh... Well..I do kinda, sometimes.. maybe.. want to talk

At first I thought...who wears pink socks? Then it hit me. But I still laughed...pink socks...

 

[lifeis2short2b]

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Oh... Well..I do kinda, sometimes.. maybe.. want to talk

Yeah I get it. What a shame you have to feel like this.

 

[Mrtenant]

This is it. Too needy. I’m just too damned needy. Clingy AF. I respond to messages IMMEDIATELY. Constantly crushing.

I know....kinda of a facetious response.. And yet there are and were so many threads about crushing. It's baked into the PG. So we all navigate as best as we can.

 

[Mrtenant]

From my pov, I don't get hung up on it at all. I have PM exchanges sometimes that are one simple exchange, like...nice post, or fun banter, thanks for the smile, and an appropriate response (sometimes even includes a pic of Pmann's junk- because you know, everyone has one to share).

Leave the fucking agenda out of it. It's not so hard to do.

I feel bad for the women here that are constantly inundated with this stuff. I am curious though, is there a part of you that feels a tiny bit of an ego boost about it? Even though you know that choad is getting no response. I mean, why not? Or do you have an ironclad method of compartmentalizing.

I get PMs on occasion from thirsty litsters, some are men some are women. (At least I think they are ). I don't dignify those with a response and just delete. I think I just answered my own question from the previous paragraph. It's all part of the Lit experience. Could be better. Could be worse.

I imagine thirsty Litsters have a very different perspective given their thirst.

Is it strange that the majority of my conversations are with women rather than men? Do other people find that to be the case where the opposite gender is who they converse with in their PM box?

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

Let's face it. Lots of guys are assholes...... On a site which is probably dominated by guys, as posted on this thread women get inundated with pm's Many. "Good" guys are ignored. I also think many women like to talk the talk but......
Don't get all worked up. It's an opinion and I know how people get upset when you share your own.

ok, I just have to ask, not in any way remotely upset. I am seriously just really nosey and trying to understand, and struggling at "talk the talk". I am stuck there, given real life meetups are rather rare. so isn't everything just talk. Thus what do you mean, many women like to talk the talk, but what? Don't talk the talk? Where does the talk line change to talk? Is this like the e-boning line (wherever the hell that line is)? or is there something between talk and talk? Is the line somewhere around like the virtual blow job, boxed lunch, finger fuck, hand job, fuck me in the ass because I love Jesus exceptions?

 

[SouthernBeau61]

ok, I just have to ask, not in any way remotely upset. I am seriously just really nosey and trying to understand, and struggling at "talk the talk". I am stuck there, given real life meetups are rather rare. so isn't everything just talk. Thus what do you mean, many women like to talk the talk, but what? Don't talk the talk? Where does the talk line change to talk? Is this like the e-boning line (wherever the hell that line is)? or is there something between talk and talk? Is the line somewhere around like the virtual blow job, boxed lunch, finger fuck, hand job, fuck me in the ass because I love Jesus exceptions?

I’m in Florida, too. What makes real hookups hard for you?

 

[SassySheDevil]

I followed that thread... it was amazing how many men wanted to argue with advice offered.
There is actually quite a lot of pretty decent advice around here on how to interact with others with respect and thoughtfulness. Also... it's a good idea to read profiles and or check out recent posting history before dropping a random message.
I'm generally pretty friendly and willing to engage in conversation with most people who PM me, but as my profile says "I'm not here to talk sexy with you"

I feel like not as many check profiles with the new update. But I agree. Mine does add similar info. I loved that thread. I thought it was pretty fantastic.

Darn, if I knew I had a magic “hi,” I could have saved myself keystrokes over the years

maybe we liked your keystrokes.

 

[Greyarea2234]

It’s hard to figure out, but if you’re wondering whyyyyyy won’t women talk to you, this thread might be for you.

Here are some theories about why women won’t talk to you (not me).

- Creates too many threads
- Uses own name too often
- Arrogant AF
- Has the appeal of a baboon’s ass

Feel free to add your own reasons. And ladies, why won’t you talk to certain men here?

I especially like the babboon ass theory… it’s a valid point lol

 

[Dribble]

ok, I just have to ask, not in any way remotely upset. I am seriously just really nosey and trying to understand, and struggling at "talk the talk". I am stuck there, given real life meetups are rather rare. so isn't everything just talk. Thus what do you mean, many women like to talk the talk, but what? Don't talk the talk? Where does the talk line change to talk? Is this like the e-boning line (wherever the hell that line is)? or is there something between talk and talk? Is the line somewhere around like the virtual blow job, boxed lunch, finger fuck, hand job, fuck me in the ass because I love Jesus exceptions?

I will give my view here

Do you know how many women say " I am not looking for that...I just am looking for friends?" Then two weeks later there they are heartbroken complaining about a guy? Obviously...they were looking for that and really weren't interested in friendship. Let me tell you...it happens A LOT. We just don't talk about it because what she was really saying "I am not interested in you that way and I am too busy to build a friendship with you".

Look, I am not complaining about it at all cause my days of playing that way are over. Everyone is here for their own reason and that reason is totally acceptable. But in threads like this, there is a false perception that women don't play games here. They do. Just like many men do. That is what I read in his statement...but I could be wrong

 

[SassySheDevil]

I am not sure slow PMing shame is why so few women post there. I could be wrong, but most of that section ends up giving me the heebie jeebies and I have a high threshold for creepy. Hell, I am creepy. It did not take me long to nope out of there after reading a bit though. I suspect a significant portion of the "women" who are willing to post ads in there are dudes. Generally, the only actual women I see, that I really believe are women, are there flaming dudes. Of course, there are exceptions, likely many, but that is the area I trust least on lit. I check there from time to time for this purpose.

The second most common reason I don't talk to someone is because I recognize them from creeping all over the personals. Rude, maybe, but true.

I think the idea is that once women get slammed with PM's and then guys start losing their mind over her not responding quick enough. She gets irritated and stops posting in the personals. I've made that mistake a couple times. posted in there and then just got slammed. Guys get irritated because you aren't responding fast enough and start pouting. I had a method to whom I answered first. Conversation. Humor. Something to reply to. Something original. If it was those cut and paste messages. Nope. If it was sexual. Nope. Then I'd forget who I replied to and who I didn't. Get overwhelmed and say "Fuck it." Then bam. Guys angry posting again. So, yes. It made me not want to post again. I used to love looking for conversation. But like @may_I_please said. Many conversations would start okay then quickly switch to sexual.
Do you know how often guys have said "I can behave. No worries, we'll just talk" then a little while later something stupid came along. "So, what kind of panties are you wearing?"

From my pov, I don't get hung up on it at all. I have PM exchanges sometimes that are one simple exchange, like...nice post, or fun banter, thanks for the smile, and an appropriate response (sometimes even includes a pic of Pmann's junk- because you know, everyone has one to share).

Leave the fucking agenda out of it. It's not so hard to do.

I feel bad for the women here that are constantly inundated with this stuff. I am curious though, is there a part of you that feels a tiny bit of an ego boost about it? Even though you know that choad is getting no response. I mean, why not? Or do you have an ironclad method of compartmentalizing.

I get PMs on occasion from thirsty litsters, some are men some are women. (At least I think they are ). I don't dignify those with a response and just delete. I think I just answered my own question from the previous paragraph. It's all part of the Lit experience. Could be better. Could be worse.

I imagine thirsty Litsters have a very different perspective given their thirst.

Is it strange that the majority of my conversations are with women rather than men? Do other people find that to be the case where the opposite gender is who they converse with in their PM box?

I think this is probably the same for most. Especially men. You rarely ever hear of guys talking to other guys via PM. Hell. It's hard enough seeing them interact in public. Too many seem to think that talking to another guy will make them gay.
You will see (or hear about) women talking to other women more often. But I still think it's probably more common to talk to opposite sex.

But you did remind me of another reason I don't talk to someone. (Sorry. No offence to you at all.)

Lit coupled up. I rarely ever reach out to a coupled-up Litster unless I know their woman is okay with it. I've had the female half of the couple reach out to me and tell me to stay away from her man. (This one has been years ago) or when commenting on a guys picture thread another woman reach out and tell me to stop "fawning" all over her man. So, I rarely even reach out to most any longer. - I am also careful of those coupled-up picture threads too.

How bout those Kraken? First place baby

FUCK YEAH!!! Going tonight!!!!!!! Can't wait!!!! Go Kraken!!

 

[SassySheDevil]

I will give my view here

Do you know how many women say " I am not looking for that...I just am looking for friends?" Then two weeks later there they are heartbroken complaining about a guy? Obviously...they were looking for that and really weren't interested in friendship. Let me tell you...it happens A LOT. We just don't talk about it because what she was really saying "I am not interested in you that way and I am too busy to build a friendship with you".

Look, I am not complaining about it at all cause my days of playing that way are over. Everyone is here for their own reason and that reason is totally acceptable. But in threads like this, there is a false perception that women don't play games here. They do. Just like many men do. That is what I read in his statement...but I could be wrong

Sometimes this needs to be said more often. While women are more vocal about the shit men do (or don't do) It does go both ways. Women can be shitty too. I know I have been plenty of times. Sometimes it takes me a little bit to recognize it. But I admit I am not as shitty to anyone when I keep to myself more. Sadly, I am easily influenced by female friends and when they go on a rampage. I jump in. *sad* Now that I've pushed almost everyone away. I'm less lippy and vocal.

 

[Justadesperatewifeandmom]

I’m in Florida, too. What makes real hookups hard for you?

ooph, I will take this at face value. Well first, I don't personally meet random men from the internet erotic sites because while I like watching Criminal Minds, the concept of being an episode does not please me. Also most users, including myself, are married with families which adds another layer of complexity. I also enjoy a certain type of people, which I mentioned earlier. Also, prefer men with a track record and longevity here. It isn't that I care if some chicks think they are giant asshats, but I do care if another woman is genuinely afraid of them. Then I want to get to know them on lit first. Then I have this weird thing that eliminates any real amount of travel. Like, if I am going to meet a litster, it isn't at a hotel. It is at a restaurant. The stress and effort of travel feels like an expectation, that would cause me stress. Meeting a litster is no longer off the table for me, but I don't see it happening in the very immediate future. Yes, the irony is strong and not lost on me.

 

[Mrtenant]

ok, I just have to ask, not in any way remotely upset. I am seriously just really nosey and trying to understand, and struggling at "talk the talk". I am stuck there, given real life meetups are rather rare. so isn't everything just talk. Thus what do you mean, many women like to talk the talk, but what? Don't talk the talk? Where does the talk line change to talk? Is this like the e-boning line (wherever the hell that line is)? or is there something between talk and talk? Is the line somewhere around like the virtual blow job, boxed lunch, finger fuck, hand job, fuck me in the ass because I love Jesus exceptions?

The last part...for sure