Projection v/s Reality

[DeservingBitch]

JM said what I was going to say much more diplomatically.

If you can't see the difference between speaking up for yourself when you think someone is attacking you and a sustained ganged up personal attack from a bunch of people who are feeling emboldened by one another, I'm sorry there's not much more I can really do to explain.

Yes that.

To put it eloquently.

 

[RJMasters]

Know what? I have. I do. I'm beginning to like the unmoderated free for all of the General Board over the collective bunched panties and why can't we all looove one another. We can't and don't. So? Guess what, if I feel that way, I can act on it, or suck up and post where I want to post, here, among people I do find interesting in spite of some annoyance. It's a beautiful thing, this choice, thing.

While I'm not enamored of a lot of the things Sinn and IYM had to say to people if they showed up again tomorrow, I wouldn't feel any less whatever about posting here. I don't understand the notion that you just can't feel OK about sharing space with an idea typed out in words.

As example, the vile little hairball coughed up on this thread by Primalex, as if arriving on cue to illustrate my point.

I'm not gonna whine about him being here.

I'm going to call him an asshole, get it out of my system and on with my life. He doesn't make me think "ohmygod how can I beeee here?" I don't have to PM cat or Marquis to figure out how I'm supposed to put up with this.

At least this is the kind of community I thought that this was. That's ok, there are lots. I'm on a board where you're either polite or you are out, and that's OK too. I just think it's really crap to say we're really about loose moderation and free speech until enough people decide they don't like you and then we're going to have some repulsive online intervention for your personality.

This isn't advanced levels of mental armor and thick skin, it's really not.

I have never seen anyone banned or scensored in this forum, I highly doubt its gonna start now.

For someone who tends to speak out againt those who are preachy, your kinda of preachy yourself.

as far as your mental armor and thick skin comment, for the sake of brevity, its an oversimplifacation of a complex problem which you have managed to calliously disregard the feelings of others while at the same time insult them. Congratz on that and well done...well done.

Your reaction over this whole thing is going to puzzle me for a long time to come. I fail to see how those who have been roadkill by bitches is somehow at fault. Sounds a lot like your saying, "serves them right for being so weak".

If having advance levels of mental toughness and being thick skinned means adopting your hypocritical stance, then I'll pass.

If you or JM want to continue to come back at me regarding this issue, please by all means carry on. Don't think me rude if I don't respond, I think you two made your positions clear on the matter, and I think I have made mine clear.






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[Primalex]

Your reaction over this whole thing is going to puzzle me for a long time to come. I fail to see how those who have been roadkill by bitches is somehow at fault. Sounds a lot like your saying, "serves them right for being so weak".

"serves them right for visiting this website" is more what they are saying - as far as I understood it.

 

[JMohegan]

I fail to see how those who have been roadkill by bitches is somehow at fault.

This message is for anyone who feels as if they "have been roadkill by bitches."

Issues of tasteless hyperbole aside, RJ's turn of phrase actually helps to put things in perspective. This is just a message board, after all. If participation here is not a plus for you in terms of humor, education, camaraderie, whatever - then a different venue for exchanging ideas might work better. People come & go here all the time; there is no shame in the latter.

However, if you'd like to find a way to stick around but make your time here more pleasant, I have a few suggestions.

I suspect that you may have an easier time relating to someone who ID's on your side of the coin. Therefore, I recommend reading Serijules' posts, above. She seems to have a very sensible approach to dealing with nasties. I also recommend reading Furry Fury's posts on this thread. In my opinion, she did a great job standing up for one flavor of kink she enjoys, offering useful tips to help other people, and avoiding the temptation to launch into personal attacks in the process. Another idea might be to PM Rebecca, if you know her, and ask how she gets by posting all over the General Board. I don't know, because I haven't spent much time there, but the GB does have a reputation of being far more combative than this particular corner of Lit.

I agree with RJ that the process of learning to function productively in an online environment may be a complex process for some. The specific suggestions offered in this post are part of a broader point, which is: Looking to your peers for tips on how to improve your message board experience might be a helpful way to get started.

 

[Netzach]

This message is for anyone who feels as if they "have been roadkill by bitches."

Issues of tasteless hyperbole aside, RJ's turn of phrase actually helps to put things in perspective. This is just a message board, after all. If participation here is not a plus for you in terms of humor, education, camaraderie, whatever - then a different venue for exchanging ideas might work better. People come & go here all the time; there is no shame in the latter.

However, if you'd like to find a way to stick around but make your time here more pleasant, I have a few suggestions.

I suspect that you may have an easier time relating to someone who ID's on your side of the coin. Therefore, I recommend reading Serijules' posts, above. She seems to have a very sensible approach to dealing with nasties. I also recommend reading Furry Fury's posts on this thread. In my opinion, she did a great job standing up for one flavor of kink she enjoys, offering useful tips to help other people, and avoiding the temptation to launch into personal attacks in the process. Another idea might be to PM Rebecca, if you know her, and ask how she gets by posting all over the General Board. I don't know, because I haven't spent much time there, but the GB does have a reputation of being far more combative than this particular corner of Lit.

I agree with RJ that the process of learning to function productively in an online environment may be a complex process for some. The specific suggestions offered in this post are part of a broader point, which is: Looking to your peers for tips on how to improve your message board experience might be a helpful way to get started.

This is also not like a lot of online forae I've used. A lot of these would have shut down this thread early on, the moment it veered into flame war, supposedly the ability to say what you want here trumps everyone feeling good about themselves all the time, and if you want a lot of supportive vibes, it's a good idea to go to threads where that's the MO, sub haven, nightcap drinkers, Hillary haters, whatever supportive means for you.

If you are new to SM, I would not rely on this community to give me most or all of my online education or research into it. I'd also crack a couple of books and get out and meet some people if you can at all.

The best way to deal with the GB, in my experience is find a thread that actually interests you, hold close the mantra that you are NOT going to change anyone's mind via anything you say on an internet board and leave when your blood pressure spikes. Unless you really are some kind of mental masochist.

I'm pleased to be preachy and hypocritical in throwing out the advice of taking responsibility for your OWN self, not bothering with things that upset you unless you really feel invested for some reason, and finding things that don't raise your blood pressure but amuse you at least once or twice a day posting here.

There's my arrogant hypocritical preachy advice. It's an unfortunate catch 22 that there is no way to call anyone out without sounding like you think you're better than them, but I never sat on my hands when I was 15 and someone was getting picked on either. I've never seen any of the described "bitches" pull a stunt like this ever.

It always won me some enemies then, I thought people well into adulthood would be different, but they seldom are.

 

[Netzach]

"serves them right for visiting this website" is more what they are saying - as far as I understood it.

It's astounding this WWW thing, there's so much on it.

 

[JMohegan]

This is also not like a lot of online forae I've used. A lot of these would have shut down this thread early on, the moment it veered into flame war, supposedly the ability to say what you want here trumps everyone feeling good about themselves all the time, and if you want a lot of supportive vibes, it's a good idea to go to threads where that's the MO, sub haven, nightcap drinkers, Hillary haters, whatever supportive means for you.

If you are new to SM, I would not rely on this community to give me most or all of my online education or research into it. I'd also crack a couple of books and get out and meet some people if you can at all.

The best way to deal with the GB, in my experience is find a thread that actually interests you, hold close the mantra that you are NOT going to change anyone's mind via anything you say on an internet board and leave when your blood pressure spikes. Unless you really are some kind of mental masochist.

I'm pleased to be preachy and hypocritical in throwing out the advice of taking responsibility for your OWN self, not bothering with things that upset you unless you really feel invested for some reason, and finding things that don't raise your blood pressure but amuse you at least once or twice a day posting here.

There's my arrogant hypocritical preachy advice. It's an unfortunate catch 22 that there is no way to call anyone out without sounding like you think you're better than them, but I never sat on my hands when I was 15 and someone was getting picked on either. I've never seen any of the described "bitches" pull a stunt like this ever.

It always won me some enemies then, I thought people well into adulthood would be different, but they seldom are.

This is a great post.

It also reminds me of something I meant to write after all of this other shit calmed down.

 

[JMohegan]

Thank you to Netz, JMohegan, and others for pointing out the double standard that I was referring to. It means a heck of a lot more coming from y'all, who are unbiased observers, than it would coming from me or anyone else whose name's been dragged into this thread. And, JM, you're right about where the sig line came from. It reminded me of a time back when I was an undergrad doing sorority rush from the sorority side. Most of my sisters wanted to sit around and complain, but another girl whom I love to death and I got everyone up off their butts and working. They weren't particularly thrilled about it, and between she and I, we would whisper, "Bitches get things done!

No problem.

With regard to the "Bitch is the new black" thing, I want to show you something. Click me. Amazing how fast they crank this stuff out, isn't it?

Both the bitch/black line and the slogan "Bitches get stuff done" are now firmly associated with her campaign. So if I had seen your sig line, I would have assumed you are an HRC fan. Nothing wrong with that (in theory, at least.) Just thought this was something you might find interesting to know.

 

[BiBunny]

No problem.

With regard to the "Bitch is the new black" thing, I want to show you something. Click me. Amazing how fast they crank this stuff out, isn't it?

Both the bitch/black line and the slogan "Bitches get stuff done" are now firmly associated with her campaign. So if I had seen your sig line, I would have assumed you are an HRC fan. Nothing wrong with that (in theory, at least.) Just thought this was something you might find interesting to know.

Ooooh, that's cool! Thanks.

I'm actually pretty politically apathetic, honestly. Or maybe I'm an "anything but another Republican." I'm not sure. But the whole "Bitches get stuff done" resonates with me because I've learned that a lot of times there's no way to be the polite lady that people think you ought to be and get something accomplished at the same time. Hence the sig line (which I know you can't see).

 

[JMohegan]

Ooooh, that's cool! Thanks.

I'm actually pretty politically apathetic, honestly. Or maybe I'm an "anything but another Republican." I'm not sure. But the whole "Bitches get stuff done" resonates with me because I've learned that a lot of times there's no way to be the polite lady that people think you ought to be and get something accomplished at the same time. Hence the sig line (which I know you can't see).

I'm not gonna worry about it, 'cause Alabama's already had their shot.

On the other hand, if you were in Mississippi, I might be asking you to slide on over to WD's thread, so we could have a talk.

 

[callinectes]

Ooooh, that's cool! Thanks.

I'm actually pretty politically apathetic, honestly. Or maybe I'm an "anything but another Republican." I'm not sure. But the whole "Bitches get stuff done" resonates with me because I've learned that a lot of times there's no way to be the polite lady that people think you ought to be and get something accomplished at the same time. Hence the sig line (which I know you can't see).

With out stepping into the manure in the rest of this thread AND not saying anyone is/is not a bitch..I gotta say I can't agree with what I bolded above. I have learned one can be assertive and firm and get things done while remaining friendly. In fact, I am far more productive when I take that stance. You are a Southern Sista, I know you know what I mean.

 

[BiBunny]

With out stepping into the manure in the rest of this thread AND not saying anyone is/is not a bitch..I gotta say I can't agree with what I bolded above. I have learned one can be assertive and firm and get things done while remaining friendly. In fact, I am far more productive when I take that stance. You are a Southern Sista, I know you know what I mean.

Correction: You can't get things done without being labeled a bitch, usually. You, as a Southern Sista, know what I'm talking about with those rural white boys. There comes a time where you finally have to say, "All right, get with the program or get out, son." It usually doesn't go over too well.

 

[intothewoods]

This is also not like a lot of online forae I've used. A lot of these would have shut down this thread early on, the moment it veered into flame war, supposedly the ability to say what you want here trumps everyone feeling good about themselves all the time, and if you want a lot of supportive vibes, it's a good idea to go to threads where that's the MO, sub haven, nightcap drinkers, Hillary haters, whatever supportive means for you.

If you are new to SM, I would not rely on this community to give me most or all of my online education or research into it. I'd also crack a couple of books and get out and meet some people if you can at all.

The best way to deal with the GB, in my experience is find a thread that actually interests you, hold close the mantra that you are NOT going to change anyone's mind via anything you say on an internet board and leave when your blood pressure spikes. Unless you really are some kind of mental masochist.

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This is crazy different from other, ahem, forae (bad memories of Latin...shudder).

Kind of a hijack on the books...but I have a hard time finding authors I like. I read Partners in Kink and could barely get through it.

 

[nh23]

I'm not meaning to be rude here but I really think that the whole point is that no one here is interested in engaging in anything and are tired of being confronted by people who want confrontation.
I think this was made obvious to me when nh23 decided she would be rude and snarky and confrontational with me because I asked questions and stated my opinion. It is not the first time I posted an opinion or question and had the same response.
People don't come here to fight...at least I don't. There may be a forum out there that thrives on it but I think the people who post here are not real interested in anyones need to be rude.

KC I wasn't trying to be rude to you. That's why I clarified what I was trying to say in my last post to you. If I appeared that way I"m sorry.

Bunny, I will see if I can address what you wrote here so you can see my persepctive, and I will say up front I think I have been partly misunderstood, but here it goes.

The sequence of events from my point of view are:

- You went balistic on that other thread. I step up and we tangled a bit and then we discussed things in PM out like civilized adults. No problem at all so far.
- From that experience, we also discussed a few other things, namely the thread. From my point of view, yes you were making an effort and I certainly wanted to help, still do. The thread I thought was a great one, and still do. I think when you focus on sharing about youself rather than let others provoke you to defensiveness or offensiveness, you have some damn amazing things to say. As I siad to you in PM I will say now, I was impressed by the thread you started and the composure you had in it. That said...

The comments I made to nh23 were NOT a blast at you or even a reversal of the things we discussed privately, though I can see why you might take it that way. Please allow me to explain. When I made the comments I did to nh23, I was stating factually that you and her combined "I am a bitch and don't care" attitudes and actions have been the cause around here lately for a lot of people leaving or just not wanting to particpate at all. Just because the meteor has stopped doesn't mean the trail of damage it left behind magically disappears. Further, though you may have been making concious efforts, nh23 hasn't showed much signs at all, and unfortunately because it has been the two of you together playing tag team, I don't think its realistic to think you are not going to get some mud splash due to consequences or escape some kind of backlash adjustment period. Just because you raise your hand and say, I am going to try to do better now, doesn't mean others won't still be gunshy or have knee-jerk reactions or even defensiveness. my feelings on this is, if you are serious about growing, then you are going to realisticly allow others a chance to see a change over time and allow them to adjust as well. Does that mean I think others get to take a free shots? Nope and I honestly hope that others will see you putting forth the effort and encourage it rather than try to get diggs in.

I am sorry if what I said to nh23 made you think I was being supportive in private and then being anothe way in public. Whether you believe me or not I will let you decide. I realize that you and nh23 being close friends also makes it hard as any confrontation I might have with her, will resonate with you on a cpl of levels.

In the same way you have questioned my sincerity, I could do the same with you in that you acknowledged a personal desire to grow and change, yet even after the thread you made, you still were making posts which clearly stated that you liked being a bitch. This made me wonder if you were being sincere or not. You also sent me that other pm which shook my confidence even further(no need to go into any detail as to that but I know you know which one I am referring to).

I don't know if you can see it from my pov or not, but when you are still joking around with nh23 as to how cool or funny it is in being an admitted bitch, and when you sport "bitch is the new black" still in your sigline as if it is still something to be considered as cool, I think to myself that I am missing something somewhere. I believe that your intentions are straight forward enough. In the end it really comes down to tust doesn't it Bunny? whether you can trust that I am jerking your chain around, or whether your jerking mine around. Personally I do believe your are trying because I believe the words you shared about wanting to grow...and all in all I would agree that your actions have shown you are trying.

I am sorry that nh23 doesn't get the same pass, because she is a self admitted bitch, and is happy about being so and has no desire to change that, because she see's what many are referring to as being polite or civil as sitting around and blowing sunshine up everyone asses.

You made a decision to try, you have the choice to continue down that path or you can turn back. If you continue on, you can be sure that it will be hard, because others will need time to accept and trust. It will always be tempting to go back and get that quick fix of smug satisfaction, but I think you are tired of the hallow feeling it leaves inside at the end of the day.

~Rich

I honestly have nothing to say to you besides I prefer to back people I consider friends or just even those I consider to be right in public as well as in private. Bitch I may be hypocrite I'm not. Otherwise I don't really give a fuck about anything you've said. We obviously don't see things the same way. I can live with that.

Can someone explain to me what consitutes being a bitch?

Is it sarcasm? Dismissal? Not being warm and huggy and engaging enough? Not smiling? Any and all of the above have gotten the finger pointed at me - shit that would never fly if I had an outie.

I think there's a much bigger problem in the world with the eagerness of everyone to brand people (women) bitches to the point where anyone feels the need to self-brand pre-emptively. THAT is a fucking sad state of affairs.

I do care if I'm actually being a bitch. Thing is *I know* when I am. I do not care for a second when people with no balls to cope with anyone on their own level stoop to *calling* me one when I know I'm not. It doesn't take much for anyone who's threatened by the least bit of conflict with someone they insist is their inferior in their own minds to come up with a name for them. Don't own that shit.

The only word of advice I have to BB is don't brand youself pre-emptively because some people have no balls. And don't actually be a bitch - you know when you are one, just own it and hand out the apology that's actually earned or needed.

*nods* Great post Netz

Can't say that I've ever seen BiBunny or Nh23 post comments as viciously and personally insulting as some of the ones being thrown at them here. So no, I don't see the behavior as comparable, but yes, I do think this is fucked up.

If someone asked me to name the Lit member most prone to obnoxious swipes over a sustained period of time, targeting anyone with whom he had the slightest disagreement, I'd say Mr. Giant Green Text. And if someone asked me to name the most frequently disruptive poster, prone to hair-trigger, long-winded, and truly vicious personal attacks, I'd say his wife.

Yet if Catalina or RJ ever took either of those two to task for anything at all, that was definitely a thread that I missed.

Is this a new interest in policing forum behavior? If so, I'd like to cast my vote in favor of a simple "Knock off the rudeness," and urging those who are upset by the nasties to simply put them on ignore.

Because "Knock off the rudeness" + a public and personal excoriation is disruptive and rude all by itself, to say the very least.

Thank You for this

In large part, yes. Thank you very much for taking the time to write all that out.

Just to clarify one point about my comments - You are correct about the couple to whom I was referring, but I was addressing their consistent behavior over the course of more than a year (i.e., not just the incident when you were in Australia). To me, she in particular was the absolute queen of personal attacks cloaked in: "I tell it like it is, and if you don't like it too bad!"

The key point here is not that you should have been chastising her on a regular basis, but rather that I don't understand the double standard - when I watched the behavior of her (and others) go repeatedly unchecked, and then see what looks to me like a virtual witch hunt here.

I realize that we all read people differently. I am not asking you, or anyone else, to adopt my view on other forum members as your own. I am simply offering my perspective as food for thought.

As for the comments about your role as moderator, I don't envy you the task. It's not my place to tell you how to do your job, though I would like to respectfully repeat what I said earlier. Public and personal excoriation seems counterproductive, at best.

This is what I was kinda trying to point out when I brought up what I did about the thread being about Bunny. Had Bunny or I started a thread like that I think we would have been called bitches for it. But since Bunny is perceived as a bitch..then does it make it alright to start a thread like this using her name. You just put it much better than I did.

I wouldn't worry too much. Considering your weight, you only have a life expectancy of another 19 years and then this problem will be solved.

You're a fucking dickhead.

And considering your tendency to be a dick, you only have a life expectancy of a few months before someone gets fed up with your bullshit and solves the problem...

Oh, Fi. I love you..lmao

 

[EmpressFi]

Oh, Fi. I love you..lmao

*bows*

Every now and then I get a zinger

 

[Life_Noir]

Know what? I have. I do. I'm beginning to like the unmoderated free for all of the General Board over the collective bunched panties and why can't we all looove one another. We can't and don't. So? Guess what, if I feel that way, I can act on it, or suck up and post where I want to post, here, among people I do find interesting in spite of some annoyance. It's a beautiful thing, this choice, thing.

While I'm not enamored of a lot of the things Sinn and IYM had to say to people if they showed up again tomorrow, I wouldn't feel any less whatever about posting here. I don't understand the notion that you just can't feel OK about sharing space with an idea typed out in words.

As example, the vile little hairball coughed up on this thread by Primalex, as if arriving on cue to illustrate my point.

I'm not gonna whine about him being here.

I'm going to call him an asshole, get it out of my system and on with my life. He doesn't make me think "ohmygod how can I beeee here?" I don't have to PM cat or Marquis to figure out how I'm supposed to put up with this.

At least this is the kind of community I thought that this was. That's ok, there are lots. I'm on a board where you're either polite or you are out, and that's OK too. I just think it's really crap to say we're really about loose moderation and free speech until enough people decide they don't like you and then we're going to have some repulsive online intervention for your personality.

This isn't advanced levels of mental armor and thick skin, it's really not.

My GODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

An actual vote for a state of non co-cyber-dependant adulthood!!!!! How fucking bizarre is that???

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!

Netz For president anyone?????

Ahhh bugger it...I'm tired.. Been fighting a heating system all day.. INcluding getting called back twice. In a damned snowstorm. And I need to call and check on it again now..

SHort and sweet..

If it gets to the point where this board..Or anything on it ..Matters enough to cause this type of vituperative outpouring {Yup, been there, done that.}..
Then it's time to download that always handy-dandy PDF instruction manual, and figure out where the damned OFF button is on your processor.
Spin that swivel chair {the one you got to go specially at the computer desk} around.
And take a damned break.
Time to bugger off and have a stab at a "real life"...



P.S. Oh, and it doesn't hurt to realize that this IS still the internet.. And a lot of people are on here so that they can say things that they can't say in what passes for their "real life".

P.P.S. Which is a nice rule to follw BTW..... If you can't let it fall out of your mouth in the "real world". Or you wouldn't act that way there... Then perhaps it's worth a few seconds consideration on whether to let it utter from your fingertips on here. Or any other board.

 

[DeservingBitch]

P.P.S. Which is a nice rule to follw BTW..... If you can't let it fall out of your mouth in the "real world". Or you wouldn't act that way there... Then perhaps it's worth a few seconds consideration on whether to let it utter from your fingertips on here. Or any other board.

Dude, that would be the death of all those guys writting me PMs such as:

"I FUCK UR ASS GOOD BITCH!"

And what about all those poor horny guys who are promising me to do EVERYTHING I want because they're are my new self-appointed 'real slave'?

You can't serioulsy ask people to only type what they would be cunty enough to say in person. That's not fair.

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

I have somehow missed this thread, wich is prolly good I must say, after I have read all that has been said here ... hmmz *thinking*

Alright, heres my two cents.

I must admit I've been the bitch on this boards as well, had a fight with few people here *waves at nh23 and BiBunny* I like to think its sorted and I wont go for anything like that anymore. Simply because its just not my thing. I hate to argue, be it IRL or online. Both efect me the same shitty way, honestly, I dont need that. Some people will never love me and thats okay, hope they will never really hate me either as I am really trying not to give anyone a reason for it.

Me, nh23 and Bunny will ALWAYS disagree on many things, I will NEVER call anyone of them a bitch tho. Theres no need to do so really. I prefer being nice to people if possible. With some its erm impossible and I am really sorry some people have left this board cuz of me, but even my patience have its limits and they were far past what I am willing to take and allow someone to say about my person and my kids.

I can be bitch yes, guess we all can if we wanna. I usualy DON'T want. The fact I have hurt someones feeling that bad to make them leave this boards is nuthing I am prode of really ... *sigh*

I could say lots of things to nh23 as theres ALOT I didnt like in her posts in this thread. I wont tho. Simply cuz I am not up for another "Drama" with me involved in it. RJMasters and Cat stated their opinions on this matter and I will just simply say I can relate to all they have said.

I am not saying X and X are the bitches here! BUT I do hate the bitching, thats it. I am not going to this webby to argue with people or call them names. I am going here for fun, for a talk with cool kinky people, for an advice and a lot of good reading. I got no time nor energy to call someone here bitch and argue with them for hours whos the Mr.Right here. I am not doing that offline and got no need to do it online either. I usualy wanna have just HOLY PEACE, really.

If you like to be a bitch, well okay, your choice. Guess we wont talk much. I got the BiatchInFire in my Lit name, but I am not one nor I wanna be viewed as one. I spoke with my Sir and asked him if I should change my Lit name as I often feel the "bitch" in my name just makes me look shit. He told me its not the bitch in my name. Guess he meant its more just when I am being a bitch for real heh. I will keep this name, but talk less and think more and hopefuly, with time, I wont feel like an outsider here anymore.

I been thinking alot lately, about lots of things, mostly about myself. And uhm, theres lots of shits I gotta deal with IMO and theres a lot of things thats better to keep for myself as well and I will. If I been anoying anyone here with my posts LATELY, say "HALLELUJAH!!!" I am not planing to post that much atm, think I need some time for myself.

peace

 

[stickwork]

Query:

I sometimes affectionately refer to women I'm friendly with as:

BBeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttccccccccccccccccchhhhhhhhh!,

- is this considered wrong?

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I've been following this thread and I can see the points made by both sides of this debate. I'm aware that as a fence sitter I may get kicked from both sides but there you go.

I'm bewildered by how fast this thread has gathered momentum. Personally, I've never really cared whether people agree with me or not and I've never found a single poster obnoxious enough to complain about (with the possible exception of Primalex but he's been on ignore for a while now (the only poster I've flipped the switch on) so I don't have to trip over his little turds any more unless someone else is kind enough to quote them.)

I don't envy the mods here but I thought they were appointed to prevent people from eulogising about raping 6 year olds or how they beat the living shit out of their 'sub' last night for burning the dinner. I really didn't think that knocking heads together and refereeing arguments was part of their remit.

Ages ago when I was a newbie and posted a personals thread it got trashed by IYM and Sinn playing tag team and telling me I didn't know shit and I wasn't a true submissive. It was annoying but I lived. I've had clashes with people on the boards at times but mostly it's been worked out.

I just hope that this doesn't fester into permanent bad feeling because nobody wants to tiptoe around the threads trying to avoid everyone else's clique wars.

ETA: That sounded a little more combative than I intended. I think a lot of the issues raised here are relevant ones as we all want the boards to be a good place to be.

 

[VelvetDarkness]

Query:

I sometimes affectionately refer to women I'm friendly with as:

BBeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttccccccccccccccccchhhhhhhhh!,

- is this considered wrong?

Depends whether it gets you a slap in the face or not.

 

[FurryFury]

Dude, that would be the death of all those guys writting me PMs such as:

"I FUCK UR ASS GOOD BITCH!"

And what about all those poor horny guys who are promising me to do EVERYTHING I want because they're are my new self-appointed 'real slave'?

You can't serioulsy ask people to only type what they would be cunty enough to say in person. That's not fair.

LMFAO!

Great post. Thanks!

 

[FurryFury]

Query:

I sometimes affectionately refer to women I'm friendly with as:

BBeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttccccccccccccccccchhhhhhhhh!,

- is this considered wrong?

If they don't take you to task or slap you, it's probably okay.

 

[FurryFury]

Depends whether it gets you a slap in the face or not.

We think alike!

 

[FurryFury]

I've been following this thread and I can see the points made by both sides of this debate. I'm aware that as a fence sitter I may get kicked from both sides but there you go.

I'm bewildered by how fast this thread has gathered momentum. Personally, I've never really cared whether people agree with me or not and I've never found a single poster obnoxious enough to complain about (with the possible exception of Primalex but he's been on ignore for a while now (the only poster I've flipped the switch on) so I don't have to trip over his little turds any more unless someone else is kind enough to quote them.)

I don't envy the mods here but I thought they were appointed to prevent people from eulogising about raping 6 year olds or how they beat the living shit out of their 'sub' last night for burning the dinner. I really didn't think that knocking heads together and refereeing arguments was part of their remit.

Ages ago when I was a newbie and posted a personals thread it got trashed by IYM and Sinn playing tag team and telling me I didn't know shit and I wasn't a true submissive. It was annoying but I lived. I've had clashes with people on the boards at times but mostly it's been worked out.

I just hope that this doesn't fester into permanent bad feeling because nobody wants to tiptoe around the threads trying to avoid everyone else's clique wars.

ETA: That sounded a little more combative than I intended. I think a lot of the issues raised here are relevant ones as we all want the boards to be a good place to be.

Wow. I had no idea that you got the "not a true" bullshit rained on you.

*HUG*

I agree with you again. Live and let live. Post and let post. I won't go away. I won't every likely change my mind nor anyone else change theirs. I will have to say my piece. I'll defend their right to say theirs.