Submissive 'Thought for the Day' Calendar 2007

September 20th: Words of Pandora Vampire

From the Sadism and Submission? thread:

PandoraVampire said:
As a fellow over analyser, i think things through far too much really also. Sometimes to my detrement.

Im now a sub, at the beginning, i had to adapt from top to bottom, and that took time. Im seriously happy with being a sub, and get more enjoyment out of this, than i ever have, topping.

But his arse! It really does need to be spanked. It walks around in front of me, and its the one left over 'top' desire i have. I went away with a girlfriend a couple of weeks ago, and we popped into Horse World. (for any ppl in australia, this shop is a must, and you dont pay the bdsm $ for everything either). I saw a whip, beautifully made single tail, all black leather and chrome insertable knob handle. It was sooooo hot, i had to have it. I bought this, in top space. And now what do i do with it? If he were into pain, i know id be allowed to use it, but he's not.

So waste not want not, i get to have it used on me
My desire to whip him, or another, is not sufficiently strong to seek this elsewhere, its just a left over kink from top days.

Some forms of play, where i am the one dishing it out, could be viewed as switching, but its him who has the control, he is the one telling me to do it, and so its still subbing for me.
Because of this, the power exchange does not take place. I simply get no 'top' space going on at all. Were i to be allowed free reign, then id go to bloody town! But would i stop at the end, and submit again. That could be tricky i think.
Being in top space, is my normal day to day way of thinking when apart from him. If its been a tough day, then when i return home, im less than fluid at going into subspace for him. Were i to allow myself to enter this space, whilst doing 'toppy' things to him, i would be concerned it may alter our dynamic of D/s?

I do have a sadistic streak, and just love those little diamonds of criss crossed whip marks on a buttock that 'I' have put there. But would hate to risk what i have to introduce that. As he gets no pleasure from pain, it would seem unlikely that i will ever find out the answer to this. Which is fine. Like i say, its a want, not a need, thus, not that important to have in this relationship.
 
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September 21: words of YinandYang

From the Sadism and Submission? thread:

YinandYang said:
Catalina I read this thread with interest, because there is a sadistic streak in me. Mostly it comes out in the way I like to be hurt, kind of sadistic to myself lol. But there are also times when L will ask me to rake my nails down his back. I love to look up at him, and see the pain flash across his eyes. I suppose it may be the fact that my reaction to this, the feelings I get are totally unknown to him. Like a little part that he can't touch. Its like I can think 'ha I have a sadistic streak and you don't know about it'. But most likely he probably does lol.

It reminds me of something funny that happened a few weeks ago, and this would be my sadistic side coming out lol. L was sat astride my thighs, I was on my front and he was using the crop. We had been participating for a while, and I was really getting into it when by accident he whacked himself on his leg really hard. He yelped and immediately climbed off and said 'ok I think you have had enough now' I was trying so hard not to laugh, as I lay there thinking what a wus he was! As he sat there looking at the nice pink stripe on his leg, I was thinking that I would have to initiate the aftercare lol. I kind of enjoyed that feeling.
 
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September 22: words of Catalina

From the (BDSM Virgin question) Ever been gangbanged at a party? thread.

Catalina said:
Yes it's true, sex is only a small part of BDSM for many, for some it is not even on the radar screen....but if you are going to define gangbang scenes involving a couple involved in D/s and involving D/s as the integral part of the gangbang scene as non-BDSM based on it being a sexual act practiced by non-BDSMers, than I guess you can rule out everything sexual from anal to oral and all things in between as non BDSM also. It is not the act itself, but how it is incorporated and used, tweaked and utilised to its fullest potential, and the mindset and intention behind it which makes it BDSM...sort of like you can spank your child if so inclined, but BDSM that does not make it...do it in a D/s/SM relationship and it becomes very much part of BDSM. You can wear leather pants to the mall because you are into long distance motorcycling and just came off the highway after riding 4 hours straight in freezing conditions....doesn't make you someone into BDSM...wear it to a BDSM club or party with your sub/slave by your side and it can be seen as a part of the dress code in BDSM. Context and mindset are everything. Get my drift?

Catalina
 
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Oh noes! non-functional links!

Okay, my first official issue with the new interface was malfunctioning links! I didn't realize that the software likes to add an extra "http://" when you're copying and pasting a link until Sir W and Shyguy pointed it out. I think I fixed all the links in my posts to this thread. If I missed one, please PM me with a link to the post with the broken link and I'll fix it!

Thanks!
 
September 23rd - words of Netzach

"We're probably similarly positioned. I did meet that person, but my life would be poorer were he not in it because he's him, not because I'd be missing this critical submissive experience."

Dom and sub Switches?
 
September 24th - words of A Desert Rose

"I can only speak for myself. I only know my own reality and no one else's. So here goes:

In the beginning, this was me... It seems to me that it can (please note the use of that word. I’m not intimating that it always does.) lead to the same syndrome that effects adrenaline junkies. That the end of the line for these subs is either real damage, or real boredom. A Pavlovian search for faster, deeper, entry into sub-space. Instant gratification as it were.

And I think this is true of Dom/mes, too. This is not just a submissive thing... I think both are looking for the more intense:

"Okay, that was fun. Now let's move it up a knotch or 2."

and so on...
and so on...

In fact, I think it's more of a human nature thing than just a "lifestyle" thing. We experience or master one thing and then want to move on to the next level. Kinda like roller skating. Once I mastered standing, skating in a line and being able to stop when I wanted to, I had to move on to more fun and dramatic moves. I had to be able to DANCE on those wheels!!!

So, in the beginning of whatever this is, I couldn't get enough. I prefer not to use the words sub frenzy. I think it's natural to Dom/mes, as well as subs. I think it's natural to most human beings, in fact. We want to push our own limits, master new things, experience new stuff. It's exciting. It's all new and uncharted territory. And I couldn't get enough!

And then the been-there-done-that sets in. I wouldn't call it boredom. And I'm still definately open to experience new things, but I found a comfort zone. I know my limitations, emotionally, mentally and physically and I accept them. I know how far I can push myself and how far I can be pushed. In short, I'm very comfortable in the skin I'm in.

But most importantly, I'm accepting of my partner's comfort zones, too.

I still believe that it's not my place to push a Dom or push his limits. My partners have been men I've known for a long time. I don't hop in and out of "play" beds. (In fact, for me it's not "play".) I know the men I've slept with and I know, within pretty good margins, what they're limits were/are. When he wants to try something entirely new, I'm game for it. I never say no to a Dom I'm in bed with. (And that means in or out of bed. If I'm in bed with him that means he's a big part of my life outside of the bedroom.)

I agree that new things should not be tried untested, as in your example about suspension. I've never been with a Dom who would try something he didn't know about and that could put us in danger or harm us. But I think and, I think you'd agree, that maturity plays a big role in that. Personally, I can't imagine being with a Dom who didn't know what he was doing and being with one I couldn't trust to know what he was doing. That's just not even part of my reality. (And someone needs to rewrite that paragraph because it's full of double negatives...)

I don't know if any of this makes sense. I have a tendency to run amouk and off topic, a lot. And I may have missed the point entirely. I do that a lot, too.

Again, I'm only speaking from my own base of reality. I'm not trying to say this is how it is for everyone else or how it should be for anyone else. In other words, I hope I'm not pissing anyone off again... I seem to do that a lot, too."

Doms Have It Easy 0r What's A Sub To Do?
 
September 25th - words of SheDevilShay

"I agree with the previous posters. I write BDSM erotica and teh non fiction stories I write are extremes... Its fantasies... while its erotic to punish a slave by putting a banana in their ass and making another slave clean them up... in real life thats not very healthy or sanitary... (I.e. make sure for gods sake you have your hep A shot...)

Here are 3 things to consider that I find important...

1. ) Health/body. -- You need to make sure your physically healthy and can handle "tension" or "stress". You need to learn your limits... part of the appeal of BDSM is stepping outside of your safety zone, giving or taking control, its a rush of satisfaction you can't get anywhere else... Its almost as good as the orgasm itself... for some. Learn your body's weakenesses and strengths and your limit physically.

2. ) Frame of Mind/spirituality --- If you have any spiritual issue's, such as being mormon, odds are you can't participate in many "aspects" of the BDSM life style when it comes to "sex" play. Your mind set needs to be prepared to handle "comfort zone issues"... Standing in the shower, pissing on command of your dom... washing her head to toe and waiting patiently soaking wet on the floor kneeling while she finishes, then towel drying her off before YOUR needs are met... if you will feel any resentment of this... this is not a roll you are prepared to play mentally... Learn your mental and emotional limits.

3.) communication. Have a Safe word... this word means.. STOP.. Some people use "red light" meaning STOP!!! Yellow Light means hitting the zone of no return... and Green light means... "more". WE just use watermelon as our safe word... we've been married for 1 1/2 years and know each other well enough sexually/emotionally to know our "pressure" points emotionally and physically to not need a whole secret language of communication... You also need to work out non verbal communication. Specific # of taps, hand signals, grunts or whatever to invoke the same "safe" word option when you are unable to speak.. I.e. have a ball gag in your mouth or are tied up."

Interested
 
September 26th - words of BiaTcHiNFiRe

"Anything about slapping gets me damn turned on. Doesnt really matter where, pussy, inner thights, ass, face - i get so damn hot on it lol. It deffo makes the juices flow for me, really fukin fast. I get few hits and i whimper for some kind of release."

Pussy Slapping
 
September 27th - words of HornyBabe1965

"What do I fear most?

Giving away my secrets and my submission to someone I thought that I could trust and being rejected and/or humiliated.

Failing someone I love

Those are probably my biggest ones. I have others, but these really worry me."

What Are Your Darkest Fears?
 
September 28th - words of ecstaticsub

"Having read my reply again, I do have to add something. Since I have never been spat on, I really can't say what my actual reaction would be. I know the reaction the thought of it causes, but who knows until it actually happens? It is not a hard, or even soft limit. It has never been brought up. (and since my Dom does not read this board I don't think it would occur to him to do it, and I'm not bringing up the subject, lol.... Sometimes I do know when to keep my mouth closed)"

Face Spitting
 
September 29th - words of Quint

"As much as I roll my eyes about "harassment in the workplace" training, they have some valid points. One of these is that for a behavior to be judged as harassment it must be repeated, specifically after the victim has indicated to the other person that the behavior is undesired. Too bad life doesn't have safewords.

b, you led me to an interesting thought: abuse isn't necessarily the final line. I think T has abused me in the past. He's crossed into "dude, that's not cool." The thing is, does he continue to abuse me on the same things after we discuss what happened and how I reacted and why? It's not fatal. It's a learning experience. So yeah, there is some flexibility in play, for the most part. Obviously there are buttons that would probably push some to cutting ties with their abuser were they pushed. One part luck, two parts communication."

More Than a 4-Letter Word
 
September 30th - words of graceanne

"I hear that. Ask a 'native american' what they are and they'll say 'indian'. (Well, unless they're a four year old girl who can't say indian yet, and tell people she's an alien - but that's a different story.) I use native american not to be PC, but to differentiate from people who are from India.

Sometimes PC terms are not what's prefered by the group it's refering to.

Another example. I don't know about elsewhere, but the 'hispanic' community in my area hates being called hispanic. They prefer latino/latina.

And sometimes using PC terms can get you into more trouble. Call a Jamaican American and African American and they can get cranky.

I have no problem with not using derogatory names. Quite frankly, I put effort into it. I'm not going to jump through hoops pleasing the unpleasable. There are people, I think, who go out of their way to be offended. They want to feel that they are being persecuted, whether they are or not. You know, the martyr syndrom and all that.

Besides, if we're going to be really picky, I wanna be called 'vertically challenged' instead of short and 'horizontally challenged' instead of fat."

Starting BDSm Lifestyle w/Bi-polar Wife
 
October 1st - words of OrgasmicalBunny

"You are correct, i am working on a lot of issues, how to deal with my relationship is one of them. We are both new to a BDSM relationship. We both lack experience, but we both know what we like. I enjoy being submissive, I like pleasing the person I'm with and being told what to do, and doing special things for my daddy and getting special things from him. In this sense our relationship is defined as 24/7, at first I didn't realize this, because the submission started in the bedroom....


You're right, I suppose some of the acting out is purely for attention. I do require a lot of attention, and this was one of things I was trying to work on. I feel like I am exhausting him. I need to back away, so he has a chance to WANT me. I'm not all up in his business 24/7, but when we're home together pretty much we're together, that's why I need a hobby. Right now we only have 1 tv, but when we had 2 tv's that worked well, cuz sometimes we watch different stuff. then when he was missing me he'd come into the bedroom to say hello. I miss stuff like that.

Tonight, was an interesting night, and I totally missed the clues and then was feeling hurt because of it.

We were watching tv together and he wanted to watch a movie and I said, nooo, i dont want to see that movie, how about something else, (trying to negotiate here) he says, Ok, let's watch 15 minutes of it, if you still dont like it we'll turn it off. and I said, nooo, im just no in the mood, i dont want to watch it. at that point, I had the remote in my hand and I handed it to him, so he could do what he wanted with it. his attitude did seem to change, but I asked him if he ws mad cuz i woudlnt' watch and he said, im not mad, im just bleh, and i said, Im sorry Im just no in the mood to watch that tonight, but I will another night. and I though that was the end of it.....not long after that we were getting ready for bed and he was in the kitchen and I tried to be playful giving him a hug/kiss, etc, he basically brushed me off and walked away into the bathroom, I said, Ok, fine and went to bed, didnt' think much of that either......then he gets into bed and I smile and try to kiss him and he doesn't respond, and then starts talking to me how by my not giving in and watching just 15 min of the movie was not submissive it was bratty and whiney and he doesn't like bratty, he wants me to be submissive. I said i didn't realize at the time that's what I should have done. his mantra is "beg, ask, Plead" if it's something I dont want to do and I didn't do that. So I got upset because I felt like he was being very cold and unafffectionate and at the time I dind't even know what I did wrong. I got defensive adn emotional.

then he said, Myabe you're just not cut out to be in a BDSM relationship....


I'm still learning, Im still trying to figure this out in my head, but he gets to say hurtful things, and be cold and emotionaless and im supposed to just turn ovr and go to sleep. I should have been asleep 3 hours ago.

Now I feel like I suck, I can't do anything right."

Struggling With Submission
 
October 2nd - words of Blushing Bottom

"In a word...dedication.

Dedication to the self...to the submissive and most of all to the craft.

Almost anyone can get down and twirl a flogger...I have proven that myself but when one is truly dedicated to who one is and what one does the flogger becomes more than a flogger it becomes an expression of art.

IMHO"

What Makes A Good Dom/me?
 
October 3: words of Slutacus

From the thread: the Real World: I'm Confused

Slutacus said:
About your first set of questions. There aren't any hard and fast rules that everybody or even lots of people follow. Each couple does what works best in their specific relationships and circumstances. Those circumstances include practical things such the health of the two people involved and what their family obligations are (kids, etc.), and other stuff such as what level of control they desire in the relationship, and how their personalties interact. Lots of control does not always equal lots of slave work for a submissive, although it could. Hundreds of factors, different for each couple, go into answering each of those questions. In a relationship where the dom has all the control he or she decides who does what and also decides how much he wants to decide for both of them.

The family/lawyer stepping in is a non-issue, IMO. It's very easy for a couple who wants no nosy or hostile outside interference to hide their relationship from the world. Some families are trustworthy and open-minded, and they tend to get told. Lawyers won't question their clients private spousal decisions, if they want to keep their clients.

If some doms make a truely horrible mistake, you're right, they often never get fully over it, in that they never forgive themselves for not seeing the right choice to make. But that doesn't stop them from continuing to live a fulfilling and loving life with their submissive partner.

Doms do what they want. They control at the level most comfortable to them, and if they are compassionate and love their submissives, at a level that the submissive can tolerate. If they want the sub to choose the dinner venue, they'll order her to do so (or, if they're feeling more generous, offer her a choice). Sometimes the sub will take him up on it, sometimes not. My dom liked to offer me choices. He liked giving me things and seeing me happy. But he wasn't the type that offered unlimited choices. Instead of "pick any place in the city to eat at," he'd say, "OK, you can decide between Resturant 1, Resturant 2, or Takeout 3." He controlled the field, in other words. A choice was given me but it was limited to the things he wanted me to choose from. That was just his style, he liked control a lot. Other doms have other styles. When given a choice, I seldom, if ever, said "whatever you want, master." That wasn't my style. While overall I didn't miss decision-making or self-control one bit, I still appreciated occasional opportunities to choose and took full advantage of them.

Doms make rules because they like them and find them erotic (having a sub humiliate herself by asking to piss every time she felt the urge might be an example of that sort of rule) and also because they're good for the sub or for the relationship (an example of the second might be to prohibit a dangerous or destructive act, for instance, a "no smoking" rule). What does not going to the bathroom without permission have to do with personal growth and development or lack thereof? You could very well say that your own rigid self-rule, say, to floss your teeth every day, is turning you into a mindless robot and doormat and inhibiting your growth and development. See what I'm saying, lol? Humans have brains and they don't magically lose those brains out their ears just because they perform numerous routine or mandatory acts such as asking to pee or flossing their teeth!

Center of the universe. While my dom was always in control, he put me and my care at the center of his universe. Again, that was his particular style. YMMV. Sometimes this embarassed me or made me feel uncomfortable or selfish, but I didn't have much choice in the matter, it was the way he chose to do things.

"How does a Dom develop the personality of anyone if that person's primary lesson is to be ever more dependent on the Dom to make all decisions for them? What are they growing into?"

I hate saying this because it sounds like such a cop-out when someone says it to me, but some things just have to be experienced to be understood. The best I can explain it is that when you grow up a submissive in this sort of culture you are fucked on both ends. Not only do people more aggressive and less emotionally sensitive and vulnerable than you take advantage of you and hurt you in all kinds of ways but you're virtually forced to adopt this paradigm of the strong, independent woman. You're supposed to want something that's anathma to who and what you truly are inside and hate and despise the traits that are genuinely you. Most submissives are not in very good shape by the time they reach adulthood. Growth, for them, frequently consists of learning--viserally, NOT intellectually--that who and what they are is OK and even very good in the context of their relationship, that they don't have to wear their fake pretend "I'm always in control" outside persona all the time, they can let the mask down, relax and be themselves. Once that relaxation occurs within a nurturing dom-sub relationship, then long-buried talents and abilities, interests, desires, passions start to come to the surface because there is finally emotional room for them. Every little sqare inch of one's emotions are now not spent trying to pretend to be someone you never were and never could be so you could "pass" and "function" in the outside world that excepts you to be anything but a submissive. A submissive cannot do this kind of growth on her own usually. She needs a dominant figure to give her permission to relax and be herself, and to reassure her that everything will be all right and the sky will not fall down if she does. That's often what is meant by growth, but again, it often has to be directly experienced before you realize its immense liberating power (by liberating I mean it frees the submissive to be genuinely happy, often for the first time in her life). Other times, "Taking the submissive where she would never go on her own," refers to limits-pushing and pain/humiliation play.

Very often a submissive does not want to go where a dominant wants to take her, particularly if the dominant is good at emotional healing, because the hard things he requires her to do to get better, require her to change in very scary ways. Submissives often dig their heels in and resist such growth. Their resisitance to change and its eventual overcoming is often quite painful for both parties. It's not a clean smooth road that is travelled.

What have I learned outside of pleasing my master? Oh my god, how do I begin? He taught me literally thousands of things that I never would have known and never would have learned on my own, through the close association of a servant-master relationship. While in a vanilla relationship, all that is required is that you love your partner, in a master-slave relationship (some dom-sub relationships are master-slave, some aren't), a submissive needs, in addition to deep, passionate love, to be with someone she respects, looks up to, admires, even worships. Someone the submissive thinks can teach her things. You can't easily submit to a man, even if you really like him, if you see him as a weak-willed child. You can easily love such a man in a vanilla relationship, however. I did once.

About the hospital: you'd be surprised at how good some dominants are at getting into places that they aren't supposed to be able to get into. When I had to visit him there, it was much later in the relationship and we were married and that made things much easier for me. But when I had to go to the hospital at various times and we were not married, he always found a way to be by my side and supervise my care. He just didn't let anything get in his way. You ever meet someone who won't take no for an answer? I'm not saying he was violent, he never needed to be. He had hundreds of ways of getting what he wanted in the ordinary world and the will to persist until he got what he wanted. He taught me a few of them, and they serve me well now that he is gone.

You don't lose your ability to function as an adult when you're somebody's slave. You do get used to somebody making all the decisions and the emotional peace that this blissful state offers, but if you have to do it again, you can. It's like riding a bicycle or driving a car--even if you hate to do it, when you have to, you get right back on, and ride it. All the old skills are still there.

My master was benevolent and very patient. He gave me a lot of rope in some areas where I was sensitive because he sensed I personally needed that. He was extremely controlling in other areas, because we both liked his exercising that control: it's the essence of sexiness. Had I been a different sort of person, he would have shorted that rope, possibly, or loosened it. Hard to say, each person is different. Our relationship worked very simply: he owned me. He told me what to do. I did it. If I didn't like it, I was _required_ (hard rule never to be broken) to talk to him about it. This method worked extremely well for us for all the years that we lived together. But again, it worked because of who each of us was and what we brought to the relationship. Other dom-sub relationships, other people, require or desire other approaches.
 
October 4: words of *curious*

From the thread: the Real World: I'm confused

*curious* said:
Not all BDSM relationships lack that ebb and flow; some people have BDSM-based relationships which are not limited by the defintions of "this person is the Dominant" and "this person is the submissive".

Those who ignore the definitions simply Love and Please each other...

Definitions can sometimes be just as limiting as bondage; in my opinion, care should be taken to create a BDSM-based relationship which works *for the persons involved* rather than attempt to fit the definition of Dom + sub = "BDSM".
 
September 24th - words of A Desert Rose

"I can only speak for myself. I only know my own reality and no one else's. So here goes:
...

I'm not trying to say this is how it is for everyone else or how it should be for anyone else. In other words, I hope I'm not pissing anyone off again... I seem to do that a lot, too."

Doms Have It Easy 0r What's A Sub To Do?

Christ...and I wrote that shit?
 
October 5: the words of dixiecritter

From the thread: Submission: but to whom?

dixiecritter said:
Willow, I can't tell you how well you just expressed my own thoughts and feelings on this matter. I know I'm submissive, however, only to my Master. To the rest of the world, I'm an independent, strong willed woman. I know what I want, and how to get it. My submission is my gift of myself to my Husband.

From everything I have read, and as most here know I'm a knowledge sponge, I am allowed to give my submission to One and not to all. Therefore, here, in this place of knowledge, not fantasy BDSM, I submit to no one (unless Master ever decided to post that is...lol...that is a joke btw). I have a brain; I can and will think for myself.

I was under the impression that here on this forum, what we are didn't matter. Here we were all equals. Maybe I misunderstood again, it happens. I value everyone's opinions on this board. I respect everyone here no matter their experience level in BDSM or forums. To me it takes all of us to make this place work.

Just MHO.

dixi
 
Okay, my first official issue with the new interface was malfunctioning links! I didn't realize that the software likes to add an extra "http://" when you're copying and pasting a link until Sir W and Shyguy pointed it out. I think I fixed all the links in my posts to this thread. If I missed one, please PM me with a link to the post with the broken link and I'll fix it!

Thanks!

Sorry for the vanity quote but the above only applies if I posted the non-functioning link! I'm not a mod, and I can't edit other people's postage.
 
October 5: words of Desdemona

From the thread: Submissive: but to whom.
Desdemona said:
I really don't understand why some of us seem to get our knickers in a knot over whether anyone else on this board sees us as submissive or not. If you believe you're a sub, then you are a sub. If the power exchange is working between you and your partner and you both get your D/s needs met, that is all that matters. The rest of us are mostly anonymous strangers who share common interests and similar experiences. We come here to learn from each other and to have a sense of community, and for lots of other reasons. You don't need a stamp of approval from anybody here to consider yourself a sub or a Dom/me or a switch.
 
October 7th - words of EmpressFi

"I did marry the love of my life. And while he is into BDSM, he's a submissive like me and neither of us were into it that much when we got married.

I am lucky in that I also have my Master. The other love of my life. I am loved beyond what I deserve..."

Would You MArry The Love Of Your Life...
 
October 8th - words of shy slave

"Electrical play has never interested me but I have tried a TENS machine once.

He put it on my hand to let me get a sense of how it felt.

When he put it on my clit I was bored.

The sensation was that of a buzzing fly, it was not erotic or a turn on, just annoying.

Not sure I would want to explore further, maybe I am being obtuse, but it did nothing for me."

TENS - What's Your Experience?
 
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