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Thanks, Tulip. Could you tell me why the Belgians are so abused? I have no idea. Is it a British thing only?
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perdita said:Flicka, I think Swedish women are just sluts to us. It comes from around the 60s when Americans would go to see Swedish "art" films just for the nudity and fucking. Imagine seeing an Ingmar Bergman film for the sex .
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perdita said:Thanks, Tulip. Could you tell me why the Belgians are so abused? I have no idea. Is it a British thing only?
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oggbashan said:No. The Monty Python joke was because usually no one could think of anything unpleasant to say about Belgians. The only Belgian most Brits could think of was Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot and he was fictional.
We declared war on Germany in WWI because Germany invaded Belgium and we had a mutual defence treaty with Belgium. The Germans accused us of joining the war over "a little scrap of paper". We took our treaties and alliances seriously - we still do.
An aside about WWI. The UK declared war in the names of the United Kingdom of Great Britain, England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland and the town of Berwick on Tweed because no one was sure whether Berwick was in England or Scotland. When the armistice and peace terms were signed at the end of WWI the signatories forgot to include Berwick on Tweed. Berwick stayed at war with the Kaiser's Imperial Germany until the 1960s when they twinned with a German Town and decided to end WWI.
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oggbashan said:Berwick was fixed in England by the start of WWII and included in the declaration of the UK. Why not fight two wars at once?
Another oddity: The town of Sandwich in Kent had its Mayor killed by the French during the 14th Century. His successor changed the mayoral robes from red to black until Sandwich had wreaked its revenge on the French. They still hadn't done so in the 1960s when they twinned with a French town. The French Mayor persuaded Sandwich to bury its revenge so Sandwich's Mayor now wears red again.
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kellycummings said:I've skimmed over this thread so maybe it's been brought up and I missed it but there are a few things that bother me.
Now, I try hard not to be racist, I really do believe that people are people, but of course none of us are perfect and we all sometimes judge people by their appearance. However, I am offended by The Miss Black America Pageant. I can understand the point of it in years past but there have been more than one black Miss Americas. Do we still need the other? It seems racist to me because it only allows african americans while the other Miss America allows anyone to be in it. If I were to hold a Miss White America I would probably be stoned to death.
I know people will defend it and that's OK, we all have our opinions and maybe I'm wrong. I'm still offended by it though.
The same can be said for awards shows and such that only acknowledge people of a certain race.
If we are all to get along then it has to be ALL of us, not just whites and not just blacks or hispanics or whatever. IMHO if there is ever to be any signifigant breakthrough in regards to race relations it has to be done by all races, not just one.
I do not mean to offend anyone and if I have done so then I sincerely apologize. I just wanted to give my opinion.
perdita said:Kelly, I don't care about beauty pageants, they're all sexist to me. Perhaps by definition or law the Ms. Black contest is discriminatory, but not by any means truly racist. I hope you are not too upset about it, there's a lot more discrimination and racist issues really worth fretting about.
SF has a Miss Chinatown contest, can't imagine anyone protesting that a white, Mexican, black or Japanese can't be "Miss Chinatown".
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perdita said:Kelly, I don't care about beauty pageants, they're all sexist to me. Perhaps by definition or law the Ms. Black contest is discriminatory, but not by any means truly racist. I hope you are not too upset about it, there's a lot more discrimination and racist issues really worth fretting about.
SF has a Miss Chinatown contest, can't imagine anyone protesting that a white, Mexican, black or Japanese can't be "Miss Chinatown".
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destinie21 said:Guess we posted at the same time
anyway your comment made me smile because the sponsers of such pageants call them scholarship contests and what not now.
I think it's laughable because when you apply for a nomal scholarship there's no need to prance about with a swimsuit glued to your ass (literally to avoid riding) and vaseline smeared on your teeth (for that slow easy smile.)
Can you imagine the backlash of such things
luckily this is hidden beneath the guise of beauty so it's not quite so hard to accept even when it's staring you right in the face
Liar said:(Intentionally annoying for the sake of the argument-mode ON)
Then can someone start a Miss White America pageant contest without getting called a racist?
(Intentionally annoying for the sake of the argument-mode OFF)
No opinion, just trowing in a ball to see if someone throws it back.
By the way, I remember there was a male contestant in a Women beauty pageant (I think it was a regional Miss Australia event, but I can't Google up any articles about it...) a few years back. The rules did in fact not exclude men.
He didn't win though.
RenzaJones said:White isn't an ethnicity so to speak so yes because Miss White America would entail the exclusion of people whose ethnicity comes with brown skin. (not just brown but I can't stand the word "colored") Having a Miss White America would not be in celebration of any one ethnicity but would exclude many.
The point is that they don't have to call it Miss White America. (See the numbers above on how many Black Miss Am's there have been.)Liar said:(Intentionally annoying for the sake of the argument-mode ON)
Then can someone start a Miss White America pageant contest without getting called a racist?
kellycummings said:You have a very valid point and have actually made me look at it a little differently. I still believe that things won't get better until everyone, not just whites, stops putting people into groups. However, you're right, celebrating a persons ethnicity is perfectly fine and should not be discouraged.
However, if a white South African were to join the Ms. Black America pageant, wouldn't that create an uproar? All are african but with different skin color. Maybe that isn't the best example but it was the best I could come up with. Just a point I'm trying to make and nothing more, playing devils advocate.
perdita said:Colly, I disagree with you. I am not going to revert to a dictionary or the law though, and hope you get my point. The contests by skin color or country of origin are not racist. They are discriminatory. In a typical racist situation one group excludes another because they are thought to be evil, stupid, non-human, whatever. That's history. The Miss Chinatown pageant does not exclude non-Chinese for those reasons, it's purpose is to celebrate Chinese New Year's. I presume 'black miss america' celebrates Black women, vs. hating white women. You simply cannot have a white Black woman.
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RenzaJones said:That's why it's called the Miss Black Usa Pageant and not the Miss African Usa Pageant. It's a celebration of the black women in america.