❓ PLP Inquires II ❓

[Booboobear84]

Wrong.


Does every regulation make sense? Maybe not.
Have I worked in places that seriously needed more oversight? Absolutely. I won't pretend I wasn't a teeny bit thrilled when I found out a former boss couldn't sell his property because he'd spent years just dumping old ink and printing waste (it was a print shop) in the back lot instead of disposing of it properly. It kind of screwed up his retirement plans. But he was a dick who took every shortcut imaginable and nickel-and-dimed everyone (especially his staff). EPA oversight can be burdensome at times, sure. But in a lot of cases it's absolutely necessary. I think the Ghostbusters containment unit falls squarely into the absolutely necessary category.

EPA front line people are good folks who care about the environment. We had a guy who saw that our logs reported incidents. He was totally cool with that because we were clearly serious (empty log books were a red flag for him). The further up the food chain the more they are about power and less about the environment.

I will again say that it doesn't sound like you actually dealt with real EPA compliance (we were introducing a new substance that was of interest to EPA). The compliance paperwork is heinous.

And yes that guy sounds like an Ahole for whom enough bad stuff can't happen.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

EPA front line people are good folks who care about the environment. We had a guy who saw that our logs reported incidents. He was totally cool with that because we were clearly serious (empty log books were a red flag for him). The further up the food chain the more they are about power and less about the environment.

I will again say that it doesn't sound like you actually dealt with real EPA compliance (we were introducing a new substance that was of interest to EPA). The compliance paperwork is heinous.

And yes that guy sound like an Ahole for whom enough bad stuff can't happen.

I've dealt with EPA compliance in other areas. Like when our church opened a daycare and the soil tested a fraction of a percentage higher than the allowed level for arsenic. That was a huge hassle to deal with. I'm not disagreeing there. But if the Ghostbusters are operating a piece of equipment which, if the power goes out, would be "like dropping a bomb on the city," that's probably something that should be looked at. Especially as that particular piece of equipment is in a building that, as Egon puts it, "...should be condemned... the wiring is substandard... it's completely inadequate for our power needs..." etc. etc.

 

[Lmizzler]

11.19.24

I recently saw a very good movie (Heretic 8.7/10) and it had me thinking about villians.

Has there ever been a villian (let's stick with fictional ones please) who made you kiiiiinda see their point? Maybe you wouldn't go about it like they did (hides her axe under the bed) but hey you can see why they might want to rampage a small village?

Back to our regular programming…

Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. He is a proud man who has a love and care for his community. There is a Beast who is causing panic and chaos amongst the people. Some have even gone missing. Why wouldn’t he want to do his civil duty and lead a group of villagers to protect the quaint town that he loves. Besides, what if he had a chance to rescue a fair maiden at the same time?!?!

I’d have considered the same things he did!

 

[PrettyLilPussy19]

Back to our regular programming…

Gaston from Beauty and the Beast. He is a proud man who has a love and care for his community. There is a Beast who is causing panic and chaos amongst the people. Some have even gone missing. Why wouldn’t he want to do his civil duty and lead a group of villagers to protect the quaint town that he loves. Besides, what if he had a chance to rescue a fair maiden at the same time?!?!

I’d have considered the same things he did!

Oh dear. I could almost agree if it was for his actual personality. To be fair, the Beast wasn't all that great either. And they wonder why girls think we can "fix him". Lol

 

[UsuallyPresent]

Oh dear. I could almost agree if it was for his actual personality. To be fair, the Beast wasn't all that great either. And they wonder why girls think we can "fix him". Lol

Guys thinking they can fix a woman is "white knighting" - what's it for women thinking they can fix men? White Queening? Emma Frost would be so disappointed if so!

 

[Azuldrgon]

11.19.24

I recently saw a very good movie (Heretic 8.7/10) and it had me thinking about villians.

Has there ever been a villian (let's stick with fictional ones please) who made you kiiiiinda see their point? Maybe you wouldn't go about it like they did (hides her axe under the bed) but hey you can see why they might want to rampage a small village?

Ironically, most of the villains who have been disfigured or in a state where the only way to heal or fix their condition was to lash out or commit other crimes to get the necessary materials.
I have always had body issues growing up.
Most of which was because of some scars that made me believe I needed to become a monster to take care of issues.
The thing that was the most damaging was when I developed Bell's Palsy back in the mid 2000's.
For those who don't want to google, This freezes part of your face.
At that point, I kind of felt like Two Face from Batman although the split personality was not part of it for me.
I still deal with the inability to smile symmetrically to this day and usually hide my crooked smile under a goatee.
My eyes also went back to having one wander a bit (think Mad Eye Moody from Harry Potter except the eye is still in it's original socket)
Still, I kinda get a kick out of surprising people with my intelligence and kindness even if I do feel less than stellar in the looks department.

 

[TomTeacher19]

I don't know if I fully was on board with him but the Hugh Laurie character in Tomorrow land has this line about having epidemics both in hunger and obesity and that always stuck with me as 'damn you're right'

 

[PrettyLilPussy19]

11.23.24

Let's talk about a theory I recently read about toxic traits!

The theory posed that your toxic trait is the opposite of your love language. (I know everyone doesn't ascribe to the 5 Love Languages thing, and I agree, but we are going to work slightly within that framework for this discussion.) As an example -

LL=Acts of Service -then- TT=Not asking for help
LL=Quality Time -then- TT=Isolation
LL=Physical Touch -then- TT=Avoidance
LL=Words of Affirmation -then- TT=Going silent
LL=Being Understood or Seen -then- TT=Withholding information
LL=Gifts -then- TT=Overspending

My question - Does this ring true to you? If not, why not? If so, why? Would you care to share you love language and if it correlates to a toxic trait? Do you put up road blocks to make people prove their love for you? Or are you arms wide open?

https://media.tenor.com/CJkKpQFcMZ0AAAAM/talk-amongst-yourselves-mike-myers.gif

 

[AlpineFresco]

11.23.24

Let's talk about a theory I recently read about toxic traits!

The theory posed that your toxic trait is the opposite of your love language. (I know everyone doesn't ascribe to the 5 Love Languages thing, and I agree, but we are going to work slightly within that framework for this discussion.) As an example -

LL=Acts of Service -then- TT=Not asking for help
LL=Quality Time -then- TT=Isolation
LL=Physical Touch -then- TT=Avoidance
LL=Words of Affirmation -then- TT=Going silent
LL=Being Understood or Seen -then- TT=Withholding information
LL=Gifts -then- TT=Overspending

My question - Does this ring true to you? If not, why not? If so, why? Would you care to share you love language and if it correlates to a toxic trait? Do you put up road blocks to make people prove their love for you? Or are you arms wide open?

https://media.tenor.com/CJkKpQFcMZ0AAAAM/talk-amongst-yourselves-mike-myers.gif

I avoid/go silent when I'm angry with my partner. It's not a great trait but there we go.

In general I don't think I do any of those toxic trait things on the regular, though.

I don't know what you intend by where these come out, though. Is it how you negatively treat a partner regularly? Is it how you treat them when you're angry?

Edit: to answer your other questions, I very much like quality time and words of affirmation. And I don't think I make it hard to be affectionate towards me. At least, nobody's ever accused me of this.

 

[PrettyLilPussy19]

I avoid/go silent when I'm angry with my partner. It's not a great trait but there we go.

In general I don't think I do any of those toxic trait things on the regular, though.

I don't know what you intend by where these come out, though. Is it how you negatively treat a partner regularly? Is it how you treat them when you're angry?

I think toxic traits can show themselves in many ways. Sure when you're angry but also when you're overwhelmed or just when you're not sheparding yourself towards the best choices. And while "love languages" are often associated with romantic love, I think these can apply to all kinds of relationships.

As an example, Words of Affirmation, Being Understood, and Quality Time are up there for me and when I'm at my worst, I absolutely have those same toxic traits towards partners, friends, hell... even my chatty co-worker.

 

[SalaciousMonkey22]

I think there’s probably something too the idea that you withhold the things you think are important when you’re hurt or trying to hurt. Certainly words and time and touch are the things I value most and in my youth I could be pretty brutal with the cold shoulder and cutting words. You use the tools and weapons you understand sometimes,

 

[UsuallyPresent]

While negative and positive traits - toxic or love-languages, in PLP-context here - are found throughout the world, IMO they aren't guaranteed to be opposites. One's positive trait of open sharing could have multiple negative traits associated with it - belittling/denigration or avoidance as an example.

Another might have negative traits not associated with their positive traits - someone whose "love language" is all about physical contact, but who exhibits negative traits like gaslighting, or making and enforcing unwanted assumptions.

I agree that people tend to have fairly consistent positive and negative traits - @SalaciousMonkey22 's "tools and weapons you understand" - but there doesn't have to be correlation between the sides. There CAN be, but it's not a guarantee, IMO.

 

[SalaciousMonkey22]

I’ll add that I think it’s far more destructive and hurtful when you grow toxic enough to recognize your partner’s love languages and without THAT. That’s like some end boss level shit.

Much better to just grow outta being toxic when you can.

 

[PrettyLilPussy19]

I’ll add that I think it’s far more destructive and hurtful when you grow toxic enough to recognize your partner’s love languages and without THAT. That’s like some end boss level shit.

Much better to just grow outta being toxic when you can.

I'm not sure I understand? Will you say a little more?

 

[SalaciousMonkey22]

I'm not sure I understand? Will you say a little more?

It’s a bad thing to withhold the things you think are valuable and important. It’s next level bad to withhold things you know your partner values and needs,

If, for example, I don’t particularly care about acts of service but I know my partner does and I don’t do something I normally would specifically because I know it’ll hit them where it hurts…that’s some extra toxic shit.

 

[PrettyLilPussy19]

It’s a bad thing to withhold the things you think are valuable and important. It’s next level bad to withhold things you know your partner values and needs,

If, for example, I don’t particularly care about acts of service but I know my partner does and I don’t do something I normally would specifically because I know it’ll hit them where it hurts…that’s some extra toxic shit.

Gotcha!! I agree when it's done as a punishment or a 'fuck you'. Thanks for explaining.

 

[Azuldrgon]

11.23.24

Let's talk about a theory I recently read about toxic traits!

The theory posed that your toxic trait is the opposite of your love language. (I know everyone doesn't ascribe to the 5 Love Languages thing, and I agree, but we are going to work slightly within that framework for this discussion.) As an example -

LL=Acts of Service -then- TT=Not asking for help
LL=Quality Time -then- TT=Isolation
LL=Physical Touch -then- TT=Avoidance
LL=Words of Affirmation -then- TT=Going silent
LL=Being Understood or Seen -then- TT=Withholding information
LL=Gifts -then- TT=Overspending

My question - Does this ring true to you? If not, why not? If so, why? Would you care to share you love language and if it correlates to a toxic trait? Do you put up road blocks to make people prove their love for you? Or are you arms wide open?

https://media.tenor.com/CJkKpQFcMZ0AAAAM/talk-amongst-yourselves-mike-myers.gif

Guilty.
I am an Acts of Service guy, but I an not good at asking for help at all.
I don't actively put up roadblocks, but I think because I try to be Uber-self-sufficient it can cause this to happen.

 

[Lmizzler]

11.23.24

Let's talk about a theory I recently read about toxic traits!

The theory posed that your toxic trait is the opposite of your love language. (I know everyone doesn't ascribe to the 5 Love Languages thing, and I agree, but we are going to work slightly within that framework for this discussion.) As an example -

LL=Acts of Service -then- TT=Not asking for help
LL=Quality Time -then- TT=Isolation
LL=Physical Touch -then- TT=Avoidance
LL=Words of Affirmation -then- TT=Going silent
LL=Being Understood or Seen -then- TT=Withholding information
LL=Gifts -then- TT=Overspending

My question - Does this ring true to you? If not, why not? If so, why? Would you care to share you love language and if it correlates to a toxic trait? Do you put up road blocks to make people prove their love for you? Or are you arms wide open?

https://media.tenor.com/CJkKpQFcMZ0AAAAM/talk-amongst-yourselves-mike-myers.gif

What does it say about you if you are bad at all of them?
AFAF.

 

[Neanderthal247]

11.23.24

Let's talk about a theory I recently read about toxic traits!

The theory posed that your toxic trait is the opposite of your love language. (I know everyone doesn't ascribe to the 5 Love Languages thing, and I agree, but we are going to work slightly within that framework for this discussion.) As an example -

LL=Acts of Service -then- TT=Not asking for help
LL=Quality Time -then- TT=Isolation
LL=Physical Touch -then- TT=Avoidance
LL=Words of Affirmation -then- TT=Going silent
LL=Being Understood or Seen -then- TT=Withholding information
LL=Gifts -then- TT=Overspending

My question - Does this ring true to you? If not, why not? If so, why? Would you care to share you love language and if it correlates to a toxic trait? Do you put up road blocks to make people prove their love for you? Or are you arms wide open?

https://media.tenor.com/CJkKpQFcMZ0AAAAM/talk-amongst-yourselves-mike-myers.gif

I don't agree

I wouldn't say toxic, but I am a human being and not always in a good mood.

Sometimes I get grouchy when I first walk in the door and she is on top of me. Most times I am OK, but sometimes I need about 5 minutes to get settled after a rough day.


If I am on a mission ( meaning have a lot to do ), I am zoned in on completing these tasks, so If she's in the way or on top of me, I get mad and let her know it. I feel bad about it and right after, work it out and give lots of love.


I very rarely argue in my real life relationship, I had been verbally non sexual aggressive twice in over 10 years, I was mean.


I never deny or withhold any form of love.


My love language is, love by actions and taking care of her in every way I can.


Every day there's kisses and verbally saying Love you, adding a pet name at the end, multiple times a day

 

[PrettyLilPussy19]

What does it say about you if you are bad at all of them?
AFAF.

Bad at LLs? Or you have all the TTs?

 

[Lmizzler]

Bad at LLs? Or you have all the TTs?

More the toxic traits. Some worse than others.

 

[PrettyLilPussy19]

More the toxic traits. Some worse than others.

Hey we all have something. I think recognizing where we struggle is the first step. The first three to ten ateps? Lol

 

[PrettyLilPussy19]

11.26.24

In your opinion, what movie should never be remade?
What movie has been remade that absolutely shouldn't have been?

 

[Deleted member 6592667]

11.26.24

In your opinion, what movie should never be remade?
What movie has been remade that absolutely shouldn't have been?

Do not touch Back to the Future. That one is sacred.

Pointless remakes: where to begin? The string of John Carpenter remakes were mostly pretty pointless. A PG-13 version of The Fog? I mean why? Then there's stuff like the Point Break remake.

I'm weirdly okay with remakes but it can be risky. Best case we get a fresh and interesting spin on something. Worst case it's quickly forgotten and we still got the old one.

 

[hotwords229_A]

11.26.24

In your opinion, what movie should never be remade?
What movie has been remade that absolutely shouldn't have been?

As NRJ said, most of the remakes that have been made should never have been made.
But then, sometimes, you get The Thing, or The Blob, both great remakes.

I think the best idea is to find an obscure movie that had potential but sucked and remake it the right way, rather than the more cynical approach that Hollyjerks take which is to exploit a “name recognition” movie.

To answer your question, King Kong, Halloween and Jaws should never be remade.

Oh wait,!