Biker's Run..........................

[NYWings]

Well Jaded it looks like GMC has done it again.

I have high mileage of 25,000 miles on the chevy pickup truck and already the front Anti lock disk brake pads need to be replaced, The brake peddal has a pulse to it when I lightly put on the brakes but there is no rotor marks on the front end wheels, something tells me that the Factory OEM pads were asbestos, I will put ceramic pads back in it this time.

With anti lock brakes do I push the caliper back in with the master cylinder caps off and push the fluid back into the master cylinder or do I open the brake bleeder screws while pushing the caliper back in?

*Ponders.*

Shagly,

Not sure whats going on with your brakes but you got a problem somewhere.
First of all you cannot by Asbestos and as of now I have 56,000 on my GMC without needing brakes yet. A pulse in the pedal would usually translate to a warped rotor. Poor service mileage also translates to a possible hung up caliper. With 25000 miles your well within the bumper to bumper warranty so get it over to the dealer. Best pads you can put back in will be the delco that came out of it.
Example. I had a 91 Chevrolet K1500 . Put about 65 to 70k on those front brakes bfore needing pads. Put the "top of the line" NAPA (Bendix) pads in the truck... Replaced those about 39,000 miles later.
Put the GM pads in and went another 70,000 miles before they wore down.
The GM brake set had ALL new O ring seals and boots for my Caliper bolts with the grease for them. The NAPA ones didn't give me anything.
The GM pads had the fiber "anti-chatter" liner on the back of the pad just like the originals did.
NAPA pads didn't ... But recomended using some goop to make the quiet.

I've always bought brake pads over the counter at my local auto jobber but after that experience I stopped. I will pay more at the dealer to buy the original pads BUT , I have a friend who gets a discount AND I get twice the life and a far superior pad that was designed for the truck.
I also break in those new brakes so I don't warp a new rotor.
I NEVER just replace pads without at least turning the rotors and if I buy them I do not buy the ones made in china
Again I will pay top dollar for the rotors and on my truck its 70.00 a rotor!

The labor is my own so I know the job is done correctly .

I also have brakes that I can trust to last and work properly.

Bleeding...
YES ... OPEN the bleeders to compress the piston with ABS brakes.
I make sure I use a clean hose on my bleeder to capture the fluid. I put a small amount in the bottle to be sure I do not let air back in. Do it slowly for best results.

Again let me just say that 25,000 miles is not normal! unless you drive with one foot on the brakes all the time.

Good luck and please keep us posted on what the problem turns out to be.

 

[Shagly]

Shagly,

Not sure whats going on with your brakes but you got a problem somewhere.
First of all you cannot by Asbestos and as of now I have 56,000 on my GMC without needing brakes yet. A pulse in the pedal would usually translate to a warped rotor. Poor service mileage also translates to a possible hung up caliper. With 25000 miles your well within the bumper to bumper warranty so get it over to the dealer. Best pads you can put back in will be the delco that came out of it.
Example. I had a 91 Chevrolet K1500 . Put about 65 to 70k on those front brakes bfore needing pads. Put the "top of the line" NAPA (Bendix) pads in the truck... Replaced those about 39,000 miles later.
Put the GM pads in and went another 70,000 miles before they wore down.
The GM brake set had ALL new O ring seals and boots for my Caliper bolts with the grease for them. The NAPA ones didn't give me anything.
The GM pads had the fiber "anti-chatter" liner on the back of the pad just like the originals did.
NAPA pads didn't ... But recomended using some goop to make the quiet.

I've always bought brake pads over the counter at my local auto jobber but after that experience I stopped. I will pay more at the dealer to buy the original pads BUT , I have a friend who gets a discount AND I get twice the life and a far superior pad that was designed for the truck.
I also break in those new brakes so I don't warp a new rotor.
I NEVER just replace pads without at least turning the rotors and if I buy them I do not buy the ones made in china
Again I will pay top dollar for the rotors and on my truck its 70.00 a rotor!

The labor is my own so I know the job is done correctly .

I also have brakes that I can trust to last and work properly.

Bleeding...
YES ... OPEN the bleeders to compress the piston with ABS brakes.
I make sure I use a clean hose on my bleeder to capture the fluid. I put a small amount in the bottle to be sure I do not let air back in. Do it slowly for best results.

Again let me just say that 25,000 miles is not normal! unless you drive with one foot on the brakes all the time.

Good luck and please keep us posted on what the problem turns out to be.

I bought a set of front end Ceamic pads made by Raybestos today for $48.00, there were cheaper Semi-Metalic pads for $35.00 a set but the parts guy told me metalics make noise when stopping and eat into rotors. I guess I will have the rotors turned at $7.50 each to be on the safe side, the entire braking system is AC Delco OEM.

Hopefully when it stops raining up here I can get them done.

I have rear Anti lock disk brakes on the 4x4 so I will pull the wheels and look at them also.

Thanks, I thought I should have more life out of pads since I never drive with a foot on the brakes and start slowing down ahead of time for red lights.

Thanks, looks like now is the time to get this done outdoors before Winter returns.

 

[NYWings]

Look for signs of a hung up caliper. Look to see if one pad is worn more than the other in the same caliper. This will confirm the caliper is not "floating" correctly.
Take out the seals and clean the bores for the bolts of all corrosion and dirt. Then clean the bolts. If they show wear REPLACE THEM!
This is very important with a floating caliper design. Buy the silicone brake grease and the new seals and boots for the caliper bolts.
Clean the riding surface on the steering knuckle also and lube the contact points. Go easy on those brakes the first few miles. Let the pads get to know the rotors first. Then do a couple stops from 30 mph. Not hard braking but a controled stop. Ride for a distance to cool the rotors off before doing it again. This should "break In" the brakes so you should not have a bad rotor.
Turning the rotors is good BUT... if a warped rotor has built up stress turning it may not "cure" it. You could end up warping it again as soon as it gets hot. If this happens its time to replace it. Some will only replace the one bad one. If I was selling it I would do that to. I'm a firm believer in doing everything in pairs so I would replace both rotors if I had a warping problem.

Unless this is an older GMC truck you should have full ABS system. Preasure bleeding is the best with this type of system. I also like to change the brake fluid so it protects against moisture and prevents sludge.

Good luck

 

[Shagly]

Look for signs of a hung up caliper. Look to see if one pad is worn more than the other in the same caliper. This will confirm the caliper is not "floating" correctly.
Take out the seals and clean the bores for the bolts of all corrosion and dirt. Then clean the bolts. If they show wear REPLACE THEM!
This is very important with a floating caliper design. Buy the silicone brake grease and the new seals and boots for the caliper bolts.
Clean the riding surface on the steering knuckle also and lube the contact points. Go easy on those brakes the first few miles. Let the pads get to know the rotors first. Then do a couple stops from 30 mph. Not hard braking but a controled stop. Ride for a distance to cool the rotors off before doing it again. This should "break In" the brakes so you should not have a bad rotor.
Turning the rotors is good BUT... if a warped rotor has built up stress turning it may not "cure" it. You could end up warping it again as soon as it gets hot. If this happens its time to replace it. Some will only replace the one bad one. If I was selling it I would do that to. I'm a firm believer in doing everything in pairs so I would replace both rotors if I had a warping problem.

Unless this is an older GMC truck you should have full ABS system. Preasure bleeding is the best with this type of system. I also like to change the brake fluid so it protects against moisture and prevents sludge.

Good luck

The truck is a 2004 Chevy............

4 way power disk brakes.

This should be a project for a Saturday.

 

[RaisdBiWolvs]

Hi, all!

NYWings invited me to come over and get acquainted. I haven't had time to look around yet, but I will. I'm a closet exhibitionist, just beginning to come out and show myself off. I've only been on Lit for a couple of months and I'm enjoying it immensely. My ex and I rode a shovelhead for several years, but he got custody when we split. We were part of a clean and sober MC called The 5th Chapter. I miss riding, I've only been on a bike a few times in the last 7 years. I don't ride myself, but I'm a great passenger.

 

[Harleygrrl]

Hi Raisd!!

It is wonderful to see another lady here!! WELCOME!!

You'll feel right at home here with all of us!!
Stay awhile and enjoy Jaded's thread here.

Hope to see you around here!!

 

[NYWings]

Welcome

Glad you dropped by to say hello!

I believe we have several folks who are down by your way so you might get to do some riding again.
I'm sure you'll enjoy your stay...
Hope you have a great 4th !

 

[Harleygrrl]

Anybody got any riding done this weekend??

Hope you all had a great holiday!!!

Get them bikes out!!!

 

[dinny]

Sturgis didn't happen for dinny this year...

First, I was hospitalized with chest pains, which turned out to be as the result of a near miss accident and hitting the steering wheel with my chest... the van's over thirty years old, no shoulder harnesses... then I got a call from my rah-rah harley ridin' biker bud... he forgot to pay his HOA dues, so no bucks to go... then my father finally passed away, so it was another trip to the west coast... with my brother, who's a laugh a minute... I'm being facetious... he shows up at my door to pick me up for the trip saying 'I hope you have some money for this trip, because I don't...' and it was downhill from there. So now I'm home, the hospital bills are rolling in for my overnight stay, I drove back from CA in a U-Haul watching all the boys and grlls on their iron horses headed where I should have been. Oh, well... there's always next year.

 

[Harleygrrl]

Dinny!!

Oh man, what a horrible time you have had. I am so sorry for the loss of your Father.

And also for your accident. Are you o.k. now?? What happened??

Let us know, when you are able.

Best wishes, and my condolences.

HG.

 

[PaintedSeamstryss]

Helloooo...

Fairly new to Lit and just saw this thread..wanted to say hello to all my fellow "Wind Worshippers"...Hubby and I regularly (actually daily) worship the wind from a '78 "naked" Goldwing...Waves to everybody....

 

[Harleygrrl]

Well Hello There Painted!!

WELCOME TO THE CLUB!!!

Anybody that luvs bikes is welcome here, irregardless of make and model!!

Hope you stay around this thread and the site!!

Jaded will especially like the fact that you have a nice vintage Wing!!!!

 

[PaintedSeamstryss]

Ty..ty...

Thanks for the welcome...of course I will be around a while...I kinda like it here..lol...oh am a sucker for a vintage bike of any kind, but am quite fond of the new Triumph Rocket III Tourer...very sexy machine....

 

[sirgary]

Fairly new to Lit and just saw this thread..wanted to say hello to all my fellow "Wind Worshippers"...Hubby and I regularly (actually daily) worship the wind from a '78 "naked" Goldwing...Waves to everybody....

*bows to the masters*...ya got me beat...my '79 Wing hasn't been naked since it was stripped down last winter to due some needed restorations...

Welcome....

 

[PaintedSeamstryss]

TY....(for the bow and the welcome...lol)

 

[webbo1]

g'day all

sorry i haven't been around for a while...been busy with work an the bike

well it's starting to get warmer here so i should be able to get more ride time in....once my wrist heals...busted it getting out of the shower...slipped an belted it on the bath tub

Dinny ...glad you're ok after you accident mate, and condolences about your Dad.

To our new friends...welcome


my bike

 

[Jaded1]

Good evening, Everyone...

Well, I haven't been around myself much. I have been busy looking for a new job and not having much luck either. I just love the age discrimination in this fucked up country . With job hunting and how hectic life seems to be now days I have gotten up on two wheel much this year...

Very sorry to hear about the accident dinny. But, look at it from the positive side, ya walked away from it. I am very sorry to hear about your Dad my friend. But, perhaps that was for the best too. Sturgis has always been a dream of mine. One day I will get out there. Perhaps we will meet out there. Just look for the big ugly dude on a wine red gold wing interstate.

RaisdBiWolvs and PaintedSeamstryss welcome to are little section of the world. Here it isn't as important what you ride it's more of a matter that you get the opportunity to ride. It has amazed me the number of new riders on the roads now days. Get'n to see a lot more ladys up on two wheel which I think is great...

HarleyGrrl, always good to see you around sweetheart...

Webbo, thought you feel off the face of the earth. Good to see you again my man...

Well gonna run for now. I am starting to organize for the next chili cook off in September sponsered by State of Connecticut at Shore Park. Last event in Somers, CT I came in 11th. This time at Shore Park I want to be in the single digits. I was thinking more like 1st... Once again I am gonna be facing some hard competition...

OK, I'm off. Ride safe and ride butt naked...

 

[Harleygrrl]

Thanks for the welcome...of course I will be around a while...I kinda like it here..lol...oh am a sucker for a vintage bike of any kind, but am quite fond of the new Triumph Rocket III Tourer...very sexy machine....

Well I am glad you'll stick around!! Nice to have another woman here on this thread!!

And hey, I luv vintage bikes too. Old Panheads, Knuckleheads etc.....

See you around here!!

 

[Harleygrrl]

*bows to the masters*...ya got me beat...my '79 Wing hasn't been naked since it was stripped down last winter to due some needed restorations...

Welcome....

Hi Sirgary!!

What a charmer you are, I see.....wow you have a nice vintage '79!! Good for you!!

Nice to see you here. Hope you'll also be back!!

 

[Harleygrrl]

Hi Webbo!

Real nice bike you have!! Sorry to hear of your wrist injury. Hope you be riding soon.

Nice to also see you here!!! Like your saucy av.

 

[Harleygrrl]

Jaded!

Finally, you are back here....I know you've been busy. Did you see you have 2 other Wing enthusiasts here?!? Wait till you all talk "shop."

The chili competition is not far away. Got your competitive attitude ready???? You'll do even GREATER this time!!

 

[NYWings]

Hello,
"Just dropped in to see what condition my condition was in..."

Dinny,
You've had a rough stretch of highway there and I hope for the best.
Sorry about your Dad. I lost mine in 2000 but it seems like yesterday sometimes.

The indians have a belief that a Monark Bufferfly is a sign of the spirit of a loved one passed.
My Dad fought cancer for 7 years. In December of 1999 when he learned his battle was about to end he had one wish. He wanted to be with us till my daughters wedding in April 2000. Unfortunately he passed in January.

On the day of the Wedding when my Daughter and her bridesmaids were at the house getting dressed and photos taken a bright orange monark bufferfly landed on my daughters shoulder as they took her picture. At the church when she exited the Limo there was an Orange monark again. It stayed with her till she went inside the church. I have to believe in that old indian legend and know my father got his final wish.

Since that day I have had times when the world seemed to be falling in on me and I could hear my fathers words echo in my mind ... In one situation I struggled with a hard decision for several days. I happen to be down by the old garage and workshop at my dads place. A place he loved to putter around building things. Sitting there looking at all his old tools still in the place he left them the solution to my problem came to me. Funny... It seemed so simple when I looked at it a little differently. I was happy I made the right decision but when I stood up and turned to leave I was greeted by an Orange Monark Bufferfly. I was convinced at this point I had some help making that decision. I cannot describe how I felt or how I know ,but there is no doubt in my mind my fathers spirit was with me that day.
I fired up the John Deere and mowed the grass at the old homestead... That butterfly stayed with me the entire time fluttering back and forth.

I have often sought help from my father and believe he has shown me signs along the way.
So my father is no longer in my physical world but I know he is still with me in a different way. I wish the same for you Dinny, I hope and trust you can experience the peace of knowing your loved ones are never that far away in spirit or your heart.

 

[Harleygrrl]

NYWings!!

I had read your post and was taken by it and the butterfly analogy. It was so well written and heartfelt. I saw your admiration, and love for your Father by what you wrote.

I am sure Dinny will feel comforted by your words.

I had no idea the Monarch was seen as such by the Indians. Now, whenever I will see one I will think of what you said.

Thanks for sharing your words of condolences to Dinny with all of us here.

 

[sallybaby]

Hi! EVERYONE...

Hey there...NYWINGS...I'm looking for YOU but...couldn't find YOU as yet...LOL...I won't stop till I find it though.I just wanted to introduce myself to you all...Now I know where to cum visit when I'm here...You know what I saw today? I saw leaves falling from the trees alreadyI'm NOT ready for the cold.I'm like you with the nudity.ALL natural...but still can be naked inside with the woodstoves going...Ohhh what a feeling...time for that second cup of herbal tea to sleep...

 

[Jaded1]

Good morning, everyone...

Hey, Dinny wanted to stop by and say hello. I hope your life is straightening itself out my friend. These are tough times for all of us. Hang in there bro.

NYWings the Monarch butterfly is a very interesting oenology. Prior to going to Nam I was raise Roman catholic. I don't no perhaps it was having been exposed to so much there I lost my faith in structured religion. Years later after Nam I looked into the ways of are brothers the American Indian. There beliefs just seemed to make way more sense. To this day I don't believe in structured religion but I am spiritual. I will agree with Harelygrrl very touching story bro.

Sallybaby, welcome to biker's run. When your here your always among true friends. We like to consider are selves as family. Yes, a dysfunctional one but still family. While here enjoy yourself and have fun. Stay as long as you like. Take off what ever you want and make yourself comfortable...

Today I have a project download some pictures from my digital camera. Frito Lay/Tostitos in conjunction with the Food Network are running a contest. It consist of submitting a recipe using Tostitos product (the recipe can be found on the IRON COOKS AMERICA thread as my Santa Fe Salsa Dip for those interested). The winners will be on the Food Network channel and will be asked to prepare their recipe on a show. With my great love of cooking I can do that...

I am also focused on the State of Connecticut's chili cook off in September which is coming up soon. This event I will have my best friend Harleygrrl in my corner. This is an invite to those of you that can attend to make it. It's always great fun meeting others from Lit. If interested PM me. Would love to meet ya.
These cook off are lots of fun and there is great eats. Proceeds go to charity. Cum on down...

OK, need to get my day started. Have a great day...

Ride safe...