Dingbat Liberal Professor

[Boxlicker101]

Oh, give me a break. They get their college paid for. "Patriotic" students. There's no requirement for that. You sound like some sort of flag-draped redneck. Claiming they aren't "military types" at the same time is talking out of both sides of your mouth.

Guys in the military and training for the military have gone berserk and shot people up just as any other types of people have. Give me a break. You think they take some sort of pill to make them immune from ever going berserk and shooting people up. What an idiot.

On my Post 85, I asked if you know of any ROTC members who have gone berserk. You have posted about ten times since then and have not answered my question. Some combat veterans have, but ROTC is not combat and nobody suffers from PTSD.

So I ask again: Do you know of any ROTC members who have gone berserk and shot people up?

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Sr71plt

All these brave men served their country, so another could lie about his service and pretend to know about guns.

http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/losses.php

 

[JawnKarTurr]

On my Post 85, I asked if you know of any ROTC members who have gone berserk. You have posted about ten times since then and have not answered my question. Some combat veterans have, but ROTC is not combat and nobody suffers from PTSD.

So I ask again: Do you know of any ROTC members who have gone berserk and shot people up?

Don't pester him with facts. He told you something so it has to be true. Sadly more veterans have taken their own lives then the lives of others. You'd think that someone who claims to have worked for the CIA would respect other people serving their country.

Fact ROTC cadets drill in many schools around the country without incident, and some academic with nothing better to do is trying to make herself feel better by doing something. Sure it's absolutely meaningless in the real world, but it's about feel good solutions.

 

[sr71plt]

On my Post 85, I asked if you know of any ROTC members who have gone berserk. You have posted about ten times since then and have not answered my question. Some combat veterans have, but ROTC is not combat and nobody suffers from PTSD.

So I ask again: Do you know of any ROTC members who have gone berserk and shot people up?

Box, stop being an idiot. Read my last posting. There's no divine rule that an ROTC cadet can't go berserk just like anyone else. Whether or not one has done so already is totally irrelevant to whether one would do so. There's absolutely no reason why someone should assume one wouldn't just because they don't know of any who have yet. There are days that I just cannot believe that you can be as stupid as you post. And then there are days like today.

 

[phrodeau]

On my Post 85, I asked if you know of any ROTC members who have gone berserk. You have posted about ten times since then and have not answered my question. Some combat veterans have, but ROTC is not combat and nobody suffers from PTSD.

So I ask again: Do you know of any ROTC members who have gone berserk and shot people up?

There was Flounder in "Animal House".

 

[BotanyBoy]

The point is that there is no divine rule that says a ROTC cadet won't go berserk and shoot people

No their isn't. They are no more at risk than any other student though.

--just like any other kind of nut who has done so and seemed normal up to that point and conveniently had an assault rifle at hand.

These cadets don't use 'assault' rifle's and the rifles they use are disarmed so at this point you're just making shit up to be hysterical about.

There's no divine rule that says they won't choose to do so during a preannounced drill on campus either. In fact, that would be a perfect opportunity to do so.

No there isn't. Once again this could be said about any and every school function and all the students. On this logic we should just stop higher education at large!! No more school students could get hurt!!

She's obviously a political activist who is trying to establish that guns have no business on college campuses. I agree with her. So your dipshit is my heroine. Live with it. She's not the one being crazy on this issue and those in nearly every other civilized nation on earth will agree with her.

Finally some honesty.

I disagree, I don't think we need to take this to the extent of kicking ROTC cadets and their dummy rifles off campus. The fact she's trying to do so makes her a fucking nut because this isn't even a legit gun control issue, it only serves to undermine legit gun control efforts by acting like hysterical fucking morons.

 

[sr71plt]

I must say that you're being about as stupid about this as Box is. If a ROTC cadet decides to go on a shooting binge--which is conceivable, because all sorts of types of people have, including military people--it doesn't mean shit what weapons are issued to ROTC cadets. He'll go out and buy an assault rifle or two at his local "look the other way" gun store--just like so many others have--and he'll pick a day on campus when it wouldn't be unusual to see ROTC guys around (because, you know, people have gotten dumb enough in the United States to allow guns on campus and crazy nuts have gotten into the habit of shooting up college campuses), and he'll go on a rampage and won't be stopped for a while because a bunch of yahoos like you and Box will be telling everyone that a ROTC cadet has never gone berserk before so, of course, one never would; that ROTC cadets don't get issued assault rifles, so, of course, that assault rifle in the hand of the cadet over there doesn't exist; and that ROTC guys in camouflage and carrying weapons were expected to be playing games on the campus today (because, you know, people have gotten dumb enough in the United States to allow guns on campus and crazy nuts have gotten into the habit of shooting up college campuses), so it would just be downright against the rules for one to choose today to shoot up the campus.

And folks wonder why people in civilized countries in the world scratch their heads when they look across the Atlantic/Pacific at the United States.

 

[Hypoxia]

When my unit supported ROTC summer-camp field training I saw more than a few drunk and/or stressed cadets whomp each other with whatever was at hand. They were not permitted loaded weapons so nobody was shot -- but not for lack of will.

As pilot said, firearms are inappropriate in many settings: schools, churches, hospitals, stores, theaters, offices, arenas, clubs, fairs, playgrounds -- places where people gather to interact and conduct life. Tense gunslingers do not advance civil society. Pretending otherwise is madness.

 

[BotanyBoy]

If a ROTC cadet decides to go on a shooting binge--which is conceivable, because all sorts of types of people have, including military people--it doesn't mean shit what weapons are issued to ROTC cadets.

Right....no different than any other kid out there who might do the same thing.

How is that a reason to call the cops on ROTC drills every week?

It absolutely means shit, those rifles aren't any more dangerous than baseball bats which probably kill more people each year than rifles. But I don't see you flipping out over the baseball team. No sir that doesn't fit your partisan narrative and let you have your librage at assault rifles. LOL

He'll go out and buy an assault rifle or two at his local "look the other way" gun store--

Actually there is a 97% chance they won't buy any rifle and less than a 1% chance it will be an assault rifle.

Odds are about 90% on any given year +/- a point or two, they will go get a .22/.380/9mm/.40 cal handgun or two. They are cheap, readily available and easily concealable until the last second when you can do the most damage.

Anyone who's even so much as looked at the topic beyond what the mainstream talking heads have told them realizes America has a handgun problem, not an assault rifle problem. Assault rifle blaming is made up hysterical DNC dipshittery used to deflect from the real issues which would require effort to address because it gets votes from the low information voters such as yourself.

As pilot said, firearms are inappropriate in many settings: schools, churches, hospitals, stores, theaters, offices, arenas, clubs, fairs, playgrounds -- places where people gather to interact and conduct life.

I agree they shouldn't be brandished but one could easily argue a number of those places are where they are need the most. I'm far more likely to encounter a threat in any of those places than I am at home or in the woods.

Besides we are talking about drill dummies and an ROTC squad, what exactly is inappropriate about that? And who decided that suddenly ROTC is inappropriate and should have the cops called on them every time they drill?

Tense gunslingers do not advance civil society. Pretending otherwise is madness.

Not saying they are, but ROTC's purpose is not to advance civil society, it's to train officers of war.

They aren't issued live weapons much less accompanying ammo and have been doing these drills with their disarmed M1's for decades without any issues.

Calling 911 every week on ROTC drills is fucking nuts. The only way it gets MORE insane is calling 911 on every cop you see....because you just never know.

Actually that's less insane, there seem to be far more psycho killers out there impersonating cops than ROTC cadets or even military and they openly carry pistols!! SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO scary!!

 

[about_average]

You have no idea what you're talking about and you aren't even on the topic of the forum. The bottom line is that you had no idea what you were talking about and shot off your mouth anyway and just made shit up.

That sure sounds familiar.

Gotta love those gun enthusiasts. If you go a week without a shooting on a college campus, they are mentally right back there at square one.

 

[about_average]

This thread is hilarious.

Some of the highlights:
- An ROTC student will go berserk and shoot up the campus!
More cops have lost it and shot people than ROTC cadets yet no one thinks 911 should be called when an armed cop is seen on campus.

- Someone could dress up as a cadet and go on a shooting spree
People can dress up as cops too. If a middle aged overweight guy wanted to go on a shooting spree on campus which would be a better disguise? ROTC cadet? A cop?
Should 911 be called every time someone see a middle aged overweight cop?

- Guns don't belong on campus or in churches. I've never seen anyone claim they "belong" either place. In any case, I'm sure these people would argue they shouldn't be prohibited https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Church_(Colorado_Springs,_Colorado)#Shooting
If the UCC shooter had come in the room where John Parker Jr was I'm quite sure the faculty and students in the room would have been delighted that Parker was armed.

- ROTC cadets walk to their drills carrying their weapons port arms.

- Being critical of the overreaction and threats by a professor means you're "a gun-nut" with a small penis. (I really do wonder what's wrong in a guy's personal life that he needs to start out with small penis taunts)

- If a cadet wants to go on a shooting spree he'll just go the gun store and buy an assault rifle.
You can't buy "assault rifles" in a gun store without a class three FFL. Most cadets couldn't get such a license, even if they wanted one because you have to be 21.

Odds are about 90% on any given year +/- a point or two, they will go get a .22/.380/9mm/.40 cal handgun or two. They are cheap, readily available and easily concealable until the last second when you can do the most damage.

Not at a gun store because most cadets aren't 21.

 

[RUlookingup]

This post is redundant, even Archie Bunker knows that the words liberal and dingbat are one and the same.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Not at a gun store because most cadets aren't 21.

If they are going on a shooting spree it's unlikely they would go to a gun store even if they were.

 

[about_average]

If they are going on a shooting spree it's unlikely they would go to a gun store even if they were.

Yeah, but plt was saying he'd buy one at one of the many "look the other way" gun stores. They're a dime a dozen you know.

 

[clistenovena]

She's just dialing 911 to be a bitch it's not like she's a threat.

That. Exactly. She thinks she'll make a point by continuing with this farce. The only point she's making is that she likes wasting other people's time in idiotic ways.

 

[RUlookingup]

That. Exactly. She thinks she'll make a point by continuing with this farce. The only point she's making is that she likes wasting other people's time in idiotic ways.

Maybe she'll call for some muscle like the Melissa Click. What a bunch of.clowns.

 

[Boxlicker101]

That. Exactly. She thinks she'll make a point by continuing with this farce. The only point she's making is that she likes wasting other people's time in idiotic ways.

I don't know about ND, but making bogus 911 calls is a misdemeanor in some states.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Yeah, but plt was saying he'd buy one at one of the many "look the other way" gun stores. They're a dime a dozen you know.

I'm almost positive he's part of the "Wal Mart sells military grade machine guns like loaves of bread, no one ever even asks for ID!!" and "Unloaded guns kill people every day!" types. The nutty professor too LOL

 

[phrodeau]

That. Exactly. She thinks she'll make a point by continuing with this farce. The only point she's making is that she likes wasting other people's time in idiotic ways.

Do you think "see something, say something" is idiotic?

 

[Boxlicker101]

Do you think "see something, say something" is idiotic?

In this case it is. If a bunch of kids were running around, pointing sticks at each other and saying "bang," and she called 911, that would also be idiotic.

 

[sr71plt]

In this case it is. If a bunch of kids were running around, pointing sticks at each other and saying "bang," and she called 911, that would also be idiotic.

Probably not as idiotic as your post.

 

[sr71plt]

Yeah, but plt was saying he'd buy one at one of the many "look the other way" gun stores. They're a dime a dozen you know.

http://time.com/4269899/tennessee-mike-stewart-assault-rifle/

 

[mark_j]

http://time.com/4269899/tennessee-mike-stewart-assault-rifle/

Article is sort of vague. It doesn't really state HOW he got it.

From an internet ad?

Had to be a private seller since no reputable DEALER is going to risk his business and license to sell to Joe Anyone without doing proper checks.

If it was a private seller within the state of Tenn then depending on the laws of Tenn it was probably a legal (under Tenn statute) sale.

IF he bought it from an out of state seller then the seller MUST ship it to an FFL who would then perform the BG check before turning the firearm over to the buyer..

 

[Comshaw]

Article is sort of vague. It doesn't really state HOW he got it.

From an internet ad?

Had to be a private seller since no reputable DEALER is going to risk his business and license to sell to Joe Anyone without doing proper checks.

If it was a private seller within the state of Tenn then depending on the laws of Tenn it was probably a legal (under Tenn statute) sale.

IF he bought it from an out of state seller then the seller MUST ship it to an FFL who would then perform the BG check before turning the firearm over to the buyer..

Christ on a crutch! What the hell is wrong with you??? Don't confuse him with cold, hard facts FFS!!!


Comshaw

 

[JawnKarTurr]

Sr71 crashes and burns again

http://time.com/4269899/tennessee-mike-stewart-assault-rifle/

Yes and did he go into the details of this purchase? Private sales don't require a background check. Now if the seller knows the other person is a criminal or otherwise is prohibited. The thing is universal background checks won't catch people doing this type of thing, but once again it's about feel good laws. The vast majority of people do go through background checks and most never commit a crime either.

It's funny how this law maker brought up cartel members or terrorists. Our worst terrorist attacks in this country have been committed by people without guns. Why because they couldn't get them. Lone wolves and crazy people might be functioning members of society one day. Others are ignored for political correctness reasons like Major Hasan.


As to cartel members they don't want our weapons...because they can't buy military grade ones. They purchase in bulk weapons from state arsenals from countries all around central and south America. Partly why Fast and Furious failed...The weapons were new but weren't what they wanted.