Every story I post gets 1 star’d

[Writer61]

Fuck off

Oh, very mature. I have responded to all of your posts politely and without insult, and that is your response.

And you accuse me of being childish.

 

[YmaOHyd]

I think the difference is that an author can choose whether to allow comments and, if they do, delete those they don't like. They don't have those powers if their work is quoted here.

I mean, isn't that the tradeoff for putting your work in public? The public chooses how to interact with it. I can't stop someone printing my work out and using it to wrap fish, either.

 

[StillStunned]

I wouldn't mind people discussing my stories, or even individual sentences, but I'd like to be tagged into the conversation. If there's anything that my fellow writers think is good or bad about my writing, it would be helpful be told.

 

[Writer61]

I mean, isn't that the tradeoff for putting your work in public? The public chooses how to interact with it.

It is, but what bothers me is the possibility that an author/story could be named, without their knowledge/permission, and negatively criticised. Just feels a bit unfair.

I can't stop someone printing my work out and using it to wrap fish, either.

But they probably would not tell everybody that is what they did.

 

[Dodola]

Oh, very mature. I have responded to all of your posts politely and without insult, and that is your response.

And you accuse me of being childish.

Really?
Was the circus remark a literal reference, or just a smartassed triggered response to my comment?
Your words towards me are dripping with condescension.
Fuck off (adult voice)

 

[Writer61]

Really?
Was the circus remark a literal reference, or just a smartassed triggered response to my comment?
Your words towards me are dripping with condescension.
Fuck off (adult voice)

Yes, really.

Why is it OK for you to make a smartarse comment (about being able to see your arse) and me not to respond in kind (suggesting you join a circus)? Why is it one rule for you, but not for others?

Why does somebody having a different opinion trigger you so badly?

 

[lovecraft68]

it's not always nice and pleasant here.

Readers comment on the story and sometimes the writing.

Here the focus would be more on the writing, and its usually not flattering because this tiny group of writers who are part of this forum are vastly superior to those pauper rando authors scrabbling about the site, and they will not hesitate to flex their immense literary acumen.

That and someone other than them is getting attention whether they wanted it or not.

 

[lovecraft68]

is it one rule for you, but not for others?

Not sure where you've been, but this forum is run exactly like that, it's not about what's said, but who says it.

 

[Writer61]

Not sure where you've been, but this forum is run exactly like that, it's not about what's said, but who says it.

I am not questioning the running of the forum, just the hypocrisy of @Dodola.

 

[IWroteThis]

A simple question that's bothering me. What are the ethics behind sampling someones work here without permission? I get what you're all talking about but still.

Sorry, but that is one of the basic tenets of the Fair Use Doctrine. It's a small portion of the work, used for criticism and commentary, so there's no ethical concerns that I can see.

 

[Dodola]

Yes, really.

Why is it OK for you to make a smartarse comment (about being able to see your arse) and me not to respond in kind (suggesting you join a circus)? Why is it one rule for you, but not for others?

Why does somebody having a different opinion trigger you so badly?

There we have it.
You were not polite, as you claimed, which is what got you the "fuck off ".
I expressed an opinion with humor, and you replied in kind.
You don't get to cry foul or be the victim of my opinion.
I understand that writers have emotional investment in their stories, but to think that you publish stories and get to dictate what people say about them, is unrealistic.
This is why, in my opinion, it's fake outrage.

 

[Statius]

Sorry, but that is one of the basic tenets of the Fair Use Doctrine. It's a small portion of the work, used for criticism and commentary, so there's no ethical concerns that I can see.

That makes sense. Maybe I've seen too many not so nice things here, and this being amateur hour, and me not being so great of a writer, it would bother me if this were done to one of mine, though.

 

[lovecraft68]

That makes sense. Maybe I've seen too many not so nice things here, and this being amateur hour, and me not being so great of a writer, it would bother me if this were done to one of mine, though.

I'm not that great either, I'm a storyteller, I leave the real writing to the super group around here.

 

[Dodola]

I am not questioning the running of the forum, just the hypocrisy of @Dodola.

Those are some pretty strong words.

I certainly hope you've never commented about stories you didn't like or criticized any books you've read, unless the authors were present here in the AH?

 

[Writer61]

There we have it.

No, you don't. You are even more off-target than before.

You were not polite, as you claimed, which is what got you the "fuck off ".

I have been polite throughout this exchange. If you think I have not been, then please cite it.

I expressed an opinion with humor, and you replied in kind.

That's a change of tune. Previously, you described it as "just a smartassed triggered response".

You don't get to cry foul or be the victim of my opinion.

I am not either, I simply disagree with you.

I understand that writers have emotional investment in their stories, but to think that you publish stories and get to dictate what people say about them, is unrealistic.

I don't think that. I simply consider it polite to ask permission first.

This is why, in my opinion, it's fake outrage.

I do you the courtesy of believing what you say; why not extend that to me?

 

[old_prof]

Sorry, but that is one of the basic tenets of the Fair Use Doctrine. It's a small portion of the work, used for criticism and commentary, so there's no ethical concerns that I can see.

Even if you have a legal right to do something, it doesn't mean that being considerate is not also a good idea. Weird Al asks for permissions to use each song he parodies, even though he has no legal requirement. Being an asshole is not illegal (nor should it be). But it makes life a whole lot less pleasant for everyone.

I'm with @Statius on this one. Yes you have a right to do it and I can't stop you and the site shouldn't stop you. A few differences between allowing comments and having your writing dissected here have already been mentioned. I will add this is also a more public space. Few authors here read my work, nor Status's ror probably any one author's. We have a range of tastes and each of us writes a small fraction of a percent of all the stories here.

For me personally, there are days I have thicker skin than others. Some days I'm not up to get savaged. I doubt I'm alone in that. I can choose to not look at my comments when I'm not up to reading them. If I have no idea my writing is being savaged by a group of whom I consider to my peers, I may run into it when I'm not ready for that.

Is common decency that hard for people? Ask. If they say no or don't respond, you have a decision to make. Most people will say yes the vast majority of times, but many will appreciate knowing in advance. Can we try to be courteous to each other?

 

[Writer61]

Those are some pretty strong words.

Yes, but fully justified. However, telling me to 'fuck off' is not OK.

I certainly hope you've never commented about stories you didn't like or criticized any books you've read, unless the authors were present here in the AH?

Not in the forum. And I won't do so unless I have asked for their permission first, which was my point.

It is clear that you have a different view, which is fine. I do not expect you to behave as I do. Why is that such a problem for you?

 

[EmilyMiller]

Hey - the Literotica rules say that if there is going to be a big emotional argument, I have to be one of the participants. You two are out of line.

Chill everyone!

 

[onehitwanda]

 

[EmilyMiller]

Hey - the Literotica rules say that if there is going to be a big emotional argument, I have to be one of the participants. You two are out of line.

Chill everyone!

As I said in similar circumstances recently, finding myself between two swinging dicks is not as much fun as I remember it being back in the day.

 

[YmaOHyd]

Weird Al asks for permissions to use each song he parodies, even though he has no legal requirement

I can't think of any reviewers or critics who ask permission to review a book, film, song, art installation -- anything.

 

[Writer61]

Hey - the Literotica rules say that if there is going to be a big emotional argument, I have to be one of the participants. You two are out of line.

Chill everyone!

Nobody is stopping you from participating.

 

[EmilyMiller]

Nobody is stopping you from participating.

My group days are long gone, hun.

 

[crookedletter]

I can't think of any reviewers or critics who ask permission to review a book, film, song, art installation -- anything.

There's a big difference between reviewers and critics doing their work, and someone waving around someone's story saying "Gather round everyone, look how much this sucks!" ... when the writer of that story may well be in the room, and had no reason to believe their work was going to be publicly discussed.

As mentioned by others, there's no rule against it. But it's not great form.

 

[Writer61]

I can't think of any reviewers or critics who ask permission to review a book, film, song, art installation -- anything.

So? Nothing stopping them being polite.