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[BrightShinyGirl]

I'm more sanguine than some about that because I think there's less difference between Democrats and Republicans than some do. Trump is unique in the degree to which he threatens the basic rule of law and constitutional government. He's demonstrated that he has no regard for either. I don't think we've ever had such a lawless president.

Trump was able to capture the Republican Party because it already was full of racists and fascists. They were willing to overlook his obvious criminality because he was willing to promote their odious agenda.

“Both sides are equally bad” is false. All it does is normalize bad behavior on the right.

 

[urguyscott]

So all the leftist on here agree if someone lies to get elected or breaks their oath when elected and takes bribes or spy for an enemy nation or is not qualified for their office mentally they should be fired and if their act is a crime jailed. I agree with you which means 80% to 100% of the democrtats across the nation should be kicked out of office and taken to court for their crimes against the people. Right on Democrats. Start at the top and the bottom and work to the middle. The people are with you.

 

[ll74]

So all the leftist on here agree if someone lies to get elected or breaks their oath when elected and takes bribes or spy for an enemy nation or is not qualified for their office mentally they should be fired and if their act is a crime jailed. I agree with you which means 80% to 100% of the democrtats across the nation should be kicked out of office and taken to court for their crimes against the people. Right on Democrats. Start at the top and the bottom and work to the middle. The people are with you.

Sending carriage return vibes your way.

 

[HisArpy]

I'm an independent, and my politics don't fit neatly into the available Republican/Democrat boxes. I do not understand the appeal of Trump. To me it seems obvious he's a conman, grifter, and phony. He's a proven liar and cheat. His own cabinet members back up this view: he's not trying to help America; he's just in it for himself. The idea that Trump, the ultimate swamp creature, who has spent an entire life grifting and cheating the system, wants to drain the swamp is the most laughable notion in all of American politics. I truly do not get it. It feels like a cult to me.
I think DeSantis will run and get the nomination, and he'll probably beat Biden, whose mental abilities are visibly declining, but to me it's amazing that anybody could still support Trump, who is too old, who would be a lame duck one-termer, and who has multiple crime/fraud investigations dogging him, one or more of which may land him in prison. He pleaded the Fifth Amendment, for Pete's sake. Trump Organization was convicted of tax crimes. He wrote the checks. He's a criminal. He publicly urged Mike Pence to violate his constitutional duty on January 6. There is no legitimate or coherent defense under the Constitution of what he urged Pence to do. I don't understand how this cannot matter to people, policy arguments aside.

I think you miss the point of why Trump was elected and why he's followed by so many people.

Conman, liar, crook, whatever you call him, he exhibits personal characteristics in his words that most people understand as strength. All politicians tell the voters things the voters want to hear. All politicians try to show that they're the best candidate.

The difference between Trump and the rest of the pack is that Trump appears to be stronger than most of the mealy mouthed, limp wristed, social rejects who managed to grift their way onto the public gravytrain. Some people find him crude, but so is most of America when you strip away the veneer - just look at this board and Twitter to see the truth of this. Those same people who inhabit social media believe that Trump is unacceptable for doing what they themselves do and tell everyone they believe. And then they go create fake messages to bolster their beliefs while proving that they aren't any different than the false memes they create about Trump. They are what they portray Trump to be in their efforts to destroy him.

Basically, when you strip away all the crap, it comes down to familiarity. Trump has a brand of politics which appeals to half of America because it looks and feels like real America, without any of the sugar coating that the other half of America puts on the bitter pill they want you to swallow.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

I think you miss the point of why Trump was elected and why he's followed by so many people.

Conman, liar, crook, whatever you call him, he exhibits personal characteristics in his words that most people understand as strength. All politicians tell the voters things the voters want to hear. All politicians try to show that they're the best candidate.

The difference between Trump and the rest of the pack is that Trump appears to be stronger than most of the mealy mouthed, limp wristed, social rejects who managed to grift their way onto the public gravytrain. Some people find him crude, but so is most of America when you strip away the veneer - just look at this board and Twitter to see the truth of this. Those same people who inhabit social media believe that Trump is unacceptable for doing what they themselves do and tell everyone they believe. And then they go create fake messages to bolster their beliefs while proving that they aren't any different than the false memes they create about Trump. They are what they portray Trump to be in their efforts to destroy him.

Basically, when you strip away all the crap, it comes down to familiarity. Trump has a brand of politics which appeals to half of America because it looks and feels like real America, without any of the sugar coating that the other half of America puts on the bitter pill they want you to swallow.

You’re overstating Trump’s popularity. Only about a third of America is MAGA. The one time he won he was running against an opponent who had been vilified in the press for years, and even then he barely managed to squeak by. Biden trounced him.

The majority of Americans LOATHE Trump. They want him to go away so they never have to hear about him ever again.

 

[HisArpy]

You’re overstating Trump’s popularity. Only about a third of America is MAGA. The one time he won he was running against an opponent who had been vilified in the press for years, and even then he barely managed to squeak by. Biden trounced him.

The majority of Americans LOATHE Trump. They want him to go away so they never have to hear about him ever again.

The 2020 election was so riddled with issues that "trounce" isn't the word I'd use. Especially since 51% of voters believe that cheating was involved in Brandon's "win" over Trump.

Further, taking your "1/3 of Americans" claim at face value, and the fact that it's approximately 1/3 of the entire population, there's approximately the same percentage of American's who feel the same way about Brandon since they voted against him. That's not including the additional percentage factor of those D's who also feel that way but can't say so because of party affiliation and support. Nor does it include those who did not vote but which comprise the additional 1/3 of Americans who did not show support for Brandon. Thus, no matter which one you're talking about 2/3rd's of the population don't support them.

This is not a debate topic you can win with skewed and partisan bumper sticker talking points. The majority of people believe otherwise.

 

[BrightShinyGirl]

The 2020 election was so riddled with issues that "trounce" isn't the word I'd use. Especially since 51% of voters believe that cheating was involved in Brandon's "win" over Trump.

Further, taking your "1/3 of Americans" claim at face value, and the fact that it's approximately 1/3 of the entire population, there's approximately the same percentage of American's who feel the same way about Brandon since they voted against him. That's not including the additional percentage factor of those D's who also feel that way but can't say so because of party affiliation and support. Nor does it include those who did not vote but which comprise the additional 1/3 of Americans who did not show support for Brandon. Thus, no matter which one you're talking about 2/3rd's of the population don't support them.

This is not a debate topic you can win with skewed and partisan bumper sticker talking points. The majority of people believe otherwise.

Who's "Brandon"?

 

[ll74]

The 2020 election was so riddled with issues that "trounce" isn't the word I'd use. Especially since 51% of voters believe that cheating was involved in Brandon's "win" over Trump.

Further, taking your "1/3 of Americans" claim at face value, and the fact that it's approximately 1/3 of the entire population, there's approximately the same percentage of American's who feel the same way about Brandon since they voted against him. That's not including the additional percentage factor of those D's who also feel that way but can't say so because of party affiliation and support. Nor does it include those who did not vote but which comprise the additional 1/3 of Americans who did not show support for Brandon. Thus, no matter which one you're talking about 2/3rd's of the population don't support them.

This is not a debate topic you can win with skewed and partisan bumper sticker talking points. The majority of people believe otherwise.

"People "feel" that things happen, so they did." - a lawyer

 

[HisArpy]

Who's "Brandon"?

I'm sure someone will come along and enlighten you about your lack of political acumen while you try to convince us of the accuracy of your political commentary and flawless googly-fu skilz.

 

[jaF0]

Check the thread title BB.

 

[KeithD]

You’re overstating Trump’s popularity. Only about a third of America is MAGA. The one time he won he was running against an opponent who had been vilified in the press for years, and even then he barely managed to squeak by. Biden trounced him.

The majority of Americans LOATHE Trump. They want him to go away so they never have to hear about him ever again.

Happy to be able to say that Trump's balloon is deflating--pretty quickly now. Of course the board Trumpettes, who were too dumb to see him coming, won't be quick to acknowledge him deflating.

 

[HisArpy]

Happy to be able to say that Trump's balloon is deflating--pretty quickly now. Of course the board Trumpettes, who were too dumb to see him coming, won't be quick to acknowledge him deflating.

Can I borrow your crystal ball?

 

[schism666]

raise your hand if you're surprised that derpy and vette support santos and gaetz.

icanhelp:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f0/d4/17/f0d417e8348c90235762dff15a14b4ee.gif

smart folk:

https://media.tenor.com/mpGWWgJ7r6MAAAAC/sitting-on-couch-al-bundy.gif

 

[colddiesel]

"I am a terrible Liar," said George Santos in a BBC interview on Monday; but plenty good enough to convince the candidate vetting people of the GOP.

 

[KeithD]

"I am a terrible Liar," said George Santos in a BBC interview on Monday; but plenty good enough to convince the candidate vetting people of the GOP.

Who probably asked him only one question: "Do you want to own librals?"

 

[SimonDoom]

Happy to be able to say that Trump's balloon is deflating--pretty quickly now. Of course the board Trumpettes, who were too dumb to see him coming, won't be quick to acknowledge him deflating.

It seems that way, but you never know. In a crowded primary he could get the nomination. And if he gets the nomination, nobody knows. If the economy tanks in 2024 a Republican probably will win. Maybe George Santos will run with the hope he can pardon himself for all his wrongdoing.

 

[jomar]

So what do trump and santos have in common? They’re both fucking liars!

I think you miss the point of why Trump was elected and why he's followed by so many people.

Conman, liar, crook, whatever you call him, he exhibits personal characteristics in his words that most people understand as strength. All politicians tell the voters things the voters want to hear. All politicians try to show that they're the best candidate.

The difference between Trump and the rest of the pack is that Trump appears to be stronger than most of the mealy mouthed, limp wristed, social rejects who managed to grift their way onto the public gravytrain. Some people find him crude, but so is most of America when you strip away the veneer - just look at this board and Twitter to see the truth of this. Those same people who inhabit social media believe that Trump is unacceptable for doing what they themselves do and tell everyone they believe. And then they go create fake messages to bolster their beliefs while proving that they aren't any different than the false memes they create about Trump. They are what they portray Trump to be in their efforts to destroy him.

Basically, when you strip away all the crap, it comes down to familiarity. Trump has a brand of politics which appeals to half of America because it looks and feels like real America, without any of the sugar coating that the other half of America puts on the bitter pill they want you to swallow.

trump’s strength, Harpy, is fooling those outside of New York City into thinking he’s not a conman wannabe but instead a self made billionaire and uber businessman negotiator while appealing to racists base instincts and tapping into their smoldering anger.

The 2020 election was so riddled with issues that "trounce" isn't the word I'd use.

What issues would those be?

Especially since 51% of voters believe that cheating was involved in Brandon's "win" over Trump.

You mean people who believe, or want to believe, his lies.

Further, taking your "1/3 of Americans" claim at face value, and the fact that it's approximately 1/3 of the entire population, there's approximately the same percentage of American's who feel the same way about Brandon since they voted against him. That's not including the additional percentage factor of those D's who also feel that way but can't say so because of party affiliation and support. Nor does it include those who did not vote but which comprise the additional 1/3 of Americans who did not show support for Brandon. Thus, no matter which one you're talking about 2/3rd's of the population don't support them.

Your math has issues.

This is not a debate topic you can win with skewed and partisan bumper sticker talking points. The majority of people believe otherwise.

Except they clearly and objectively don’t since Biden won a free and fair election.

 

[HisArpy]

So what do trump and santos have in common? They’re both fucking liars!

And?

trump’s strength, Harpy, is fooling those outside of New York City into thinking he’s not a conman wannabe but instead a self made billionaire and uber businessman negotiator while appealing to racists base instincts and tapping into their smoldering anger.

Well, he actually IS a billionaire. So your argument kind of defeats itself.

Face it, he's popular. The analysis of why he's popular is subject to the personal biases of those who criticize his followers and seems to take more precedence over facts.

What issues would those be?

If you don't know by now, you're a hopeless incompetent. Seriously.

You mean people who believe, or want to believe, his lies.

Those people have a right to believe what they choose to believe and YOU don't get to tell them they're wrong just because you choose to believe something else.

Saying otherwise is just another example of the overt fascism you claim that you abhor.

Your math has issues.

1/3 for you
1/3 for me
1/3 not counted.

Citing to 1/3 as a "majority" implies that the OTHER 2/3rds unaccounted for in your equation don't exist even though it does. Failing to account for that additional 2/3 indicates that your math is fucked up.

Which basically tells the world that you musta gradiented from a school in Baltimore.

Except they clearly and objectively don’t since Biden won a free and fair election.

Debatable when you consider all those "irregularities" that 51% of the people believe happened during the election.

Not that there's anything anyone can (or will) do about it.

It does, however, show that your opinions on the issue are made with partisan blinders on rather than after an open and honest examination of all the facts. Why? Because an open and honest exam of the facts can only lead to 1 conclusion; we don't really know what happened. We only know what we BELIEVE happened.

 

[ChloeTzang]

It does, however, show that your opinions on the issue are made with partisan blinders on rather ......

rotflmao. Almost everyone on this board wears partisan blinkers. Look at all the accusations of Trump and Santos lying whilst completely ignoring the current liar-in-chief, who only opens its mouth to spout gibberish or new lies on top of the old. And that's just one little bit of obviousness.

As for everything else, well, this entire board is pure entertainment and I'd like to congratulate everyone for keeping a straight face (me excepted, I snort my coffee every time I'm here, infallibly). I mean, the whole denial that Trump will be the 2024 GOP candidate. Come on, face it. He's going to win. And then he's going to win the election, because besides the senile, dementia-ridden old fart, who else do the Democrats have? Everything that Biden has touched has turned into a fuckup, and we still haven't seen him in Ohio. Reality is, almost everything Trump touched was a success. And will be again after 2024, followed, naturally, by 8 years of President DeSantis.

 

[HisArpy]

rotflmao. Almost everyone on this board wears partisan blinkers. Look at all the accusations of Trump and Santos lying whilst completely ignoring the current liar-in-chief, who only opens its mouth to spout gibberish or new lies on top of the old. And that's just one little bit of obviousness.

As for everything else, well, this entire board is pure entertainment and I'd like to congratulate everyone for keeping a straight face (me excepted, I snort my coffee every time I'm here, infallibly). I mean, the whole denial that Trump will be the 2024 GOP candidate. Come on, face it. He's going to win. And then he's going to win the election, because besides the senile, dementia-ridden old fart, who else do the Democrats have? Everything that Biden has touched has turned into a fuckup, and we still haven't seen him in Ohio. Reality is, almost everything Trump touched was a success. And will be again after 2024, followed, naturally, by 8 years of President DeSantis.

Politics exists so that the participants can spout their version of "truth" to their sycophants.

Trump may not make it through the primaries. Whether he will or not depends on what the D's are willing to do and how far they're willing to go. I do not rule out their penchant for violence as being their preferred method of political speech regarding Trump's candidacy. How violent they get will determine the future.

I expect that they will be very violent and all the while they will be blaming those who are merely defending themselves and their property from that violence as being the "violent/militant Right." How bloody it gets really depends on how far the Left is willing to go and how hard the rest of us push back against it.



DeSantis isn't a good candidate for President. His handlers and advisors make it appear that he is, but he isn't. Just like Tulsi Gabbard isn't. And for the same reasons.

 

[jomar]

And?

And they’re fucking liars. trump bamboozled a lot of people into believing his BIG LIE that the election was stolen.

Well, he actually IS a billionaire. So your argument kind of defeats itself.

It actually doesn’t but your reading comprehension fails you once again. Daddy seeded him and bailed him out time and again.

Face it, he's popular. The analysis of why he's popular is subject to the personal biases of those who criticize his followers and seems to take more precedence over facts.

He is. Those uneducated blue collar folk love him as the poor man’s idea of a rich guy. All they know of his image was from his reality show, which also bailed him out a bit. He’s a great conman.

If you don't know by now, you're a hopeless incompetent. Seriously.

Yeah, figured you had nothing. The clown show didn’t either.

Those people have a right to believe what they choose to believe and YOU don't get to tell them they're wrong just because you choose to believe something else.

Never claimed otherwise. You and his base are free to believe his lies.

Debatable when you consider all those "irregularities" that 51% of the people believe happened during the election.

trump and his clown show claimed irregularities and fraud they couldn’t back up because they had zero evidence, counselor.

Not that there's anything anyone can (or will) do about it.

It does, however, show that your opinions on the issue are made with partisan blinders on rather than after an open and honest examination of all the facts. Why? Because an open and honest exam of the facts can only lead to 1 conclusion; we don't really know what happened. We only know what we BELIEVE happened.

Really? The courts with actual judges, some trump appointees, disagree with your partisan opinion based on trump and company lies.

rotflmao. Almost everyone on this board wears partisan blinkers. Look at all the accusations of Trump and Santos lying whilst completely ignoring the current liar-in-chief, who only opens its mouth to spout gibberish or new lies on top of the old. And that's just one little bit of obviousness.

As for everything else, well, this entire board is pure entertainment and I'd like to congratulate everyone for keeping a straight face (me excepted, I snort my coffee every time I'm here, infallibly). I mean, the whole denial that Trump will be the 2024 GOP candidate. Come on, face it. He's going to win. And then he's going to win the election, because besides the senile, dementia-ridden old fart, who else do the Democrats have? Everything that Biden has touched has turned into a fuckup, and we still haven't seen him in Ohio. Reality is, almost everything Trump touched was a success. And will be again after 2024, followed, naturally, by 8 years of President DeSantis.

Woof! Talk about partisan blinders!

Trump may not make it through the primaries. Whether he will or not depends on what the D's are willing to do and how far they're willing to go. I do not rule out their penchant for violence as being their preferred method of political speech regarding Trump's candidacy. How violent they get will determine the future.

I expect that they will be very violent and all the while they will be blaming those who are merely defending themselves and their property from that violence as being the "violent/militant Right." How bloody it gets really depends on how far the Left is willing to go and how hard the rest of us push back against it.

LOL, I guess J6 was just a regular old tourist day after all.

 

[Lazaran]

And they’re fucking liars. trump bamboozled a lot of people into believing his BIG LIE that the election was stolen.


It actually doesn’t but your reading comprehension fails you once again. Daddy seeded him and bailed him out time and again.


He is. Those uneducated blue collar folk love him as the poor man’s idea of a rich guy. All they know of his image was from his reality show, which also bailed him out a bit. He’s a great conman.


Yeah, figured you had nothing. The clown show didn’t either.


Never claimed otherwise. You and his base are free to believe his lies.


trump and his clown show claimed irregularities and fraud they couldn’t back up because they had zero evidence, counselor.


Really? The courts with actual judges, some trump appointees, disagree with your partisan opinion based on trump and company lies.


Woof! Talk about partisan blinders!


LOL, I guess J6 was just a regular old tourist day after all.

Damn.

You just internally decapitated Harpy.

Harpy

 

[HisArpy]

And they’re fucking liars. trump bamboozled a lot of people into believing his BIG LIE that the election was stolen.

And?

See, it's not illegal or improper to believe stuff in this country. It might be different in your personal little teensy tiny defective world, but not in this country.

It actually doesn’t but your reading comprehension fails you once again. Daddy seeded him and bailed him out time and again.

So? It's not like he really isn't a billionaire like you claimed he wasn't. Which basically means you lied. Imagine that. You, one of those who continually claim everyone else lies, are the actual liar instead.

He is. Those uneducated blue collar folk love him as the poor man’s idea of a rich guy. All they know of his image was from his reality show, which also bailed him out a bit. He’s a great conman.

And?

Yeah, figured you had nothing. The clown show didn’t either.

dudly, discussion of current events requires that you do your part to actually know current events. If you don't know "what issues" then STFU already.

Never claimed otherwise. You and his base are free to believe his lies.

And?

trump and his clown show claimed irregularities and fraud they couldn’t back up because they had zero evidence, counselor.

Not exactly true. So not exactly true that it borders closely on a lie.

Trump's attorneys couldn't support their claims because the courts refused to hear the cases they brought, not because they lacked the evidence to prove them. Of the cases where they were requesting access to the evidence and the court denied them, those cases too were dismissed before any evidence could be presented. In Az, Lake managed to get access and PROVED that there were irregularities in the ballot counting. The court didn't believe that this was good enough and granted a dismissal.

None of that means they "had zero evidence." It actually means they were denied opportunities to present their evidence as well as having their evidence rejected.

So, again, what you say borders on a lie.

Really? The courts with actual judges, some trump appointees, disagree with your partisan opinion based on trump and company lies.

So which courts have stated that we know exactly what happened? Citations to the cases and opinions please.

Woof! Talk about partisan blinders!

I will let Chloe respond if she wishes since you quote her.

LOL, I guess J6 was just a regular old tourist day after all.

We'll find out after Carlson's review of all the tapes. Until then I'm willing to entertain the idea that the J6 committee lied to us by omission and outright fabrication of evidence.

I mean it's not like they haven't already done that in regards to Trump...

 

[jomar]

And?

See, it's not illegal or improper to believe stuff in this country. It might be different in your personal little teensy tiny defective world, but not in this country.

True, people can believe what they want, even trumps bullshit. But I think it's irresponsible and even dangerous for the POTUS to stir up his base and point them at the capital building. Democracy held, but it was strained.

So? It's not like he really isn't a billionaire like you claimed he wasn't. Which basically means you lied. Imagine that. You, one of those who continually claim everyone else lies, are the actual liar instead.

Really, your reading comprehension skills kind of suck. I never claimed he wasn't a billionaire, I said he wasn't a self-made one. Big difference.

dudly, discussion of current events requires that you do your part to actually know current events. If you don't know "what issues" then STFU already.

There you go again.

Not exactly true. So not exactly true that it borders closely on a lie.

Trump's attorneys couldn't support their claims because the courts refused to hear the cases they brought, not because they lacked the evidence to prove them. Of the cases where they were requesting access to the evidence and the court denied them, those cases too were dismissed before any evidence could be presented. In Az, Lake managed to get access and PROVED that there were irregularities in the ballot counting. The court didn't believe that this was good enough and granted a dismissal.

None of that means they "had zero evidence." It actually means they were denied opportunities to present their evidence as well as having their evidence rejected.

I do believe a couple of claims or so were denied on technicalities, like trumps team D lawyers missing deadlines or writing things up wrong. But once they did get before a judge they couldn't claim fraud (like they did on front of the porn shop) because they, get this!, had no evidence!

Seems like I recall they found some evidence of irregularities such as voting more than once on the republican side of things, so maybe that was the AZ irregularity. Even if not, they decided whatever the irregularity was it wouldn't make a difference.

So which courts have stated that we know exactly what happened? Citations to the cases and opinions please.

If there was any there there it would be before the courts, right?

We'll find out after Carlson's review of all the tapes.

FFS, you think that lying asshole will come up with the righteous truth that will set us all free?

Until then I'm willing to entertain the idea that the J6 committee lied to us by omission and outright fabrication of evidence.

I'll bite. Since you don't believe your own eyes and ears, what lies by omission and fabrication did the J6 committee commit?

 

[ll74]

We'll find out after Carlson's review of all the tapes. Until then I'm willing to entertain the idea that the J6 committee lied to us by omission and outright fabrication of evidence.

I mean it's not like they haven't already done that in regards to Trump...

You dipshits don't seem to get it - you whine and bitch and moan about the "biased" review by the J6 Committee and how we only saw what they wanted us to see....and now you're telling us that somehow Fucker Carlton isn't doing or won't do exactly the same thing you just bitched about.

Either you want full transparency or you just want to get revenge on what you believe to be a wrong to your side......guess which one Fucker will give you?