Impeachment not going so well?

[gunthernehmen]

Note the Mafia, or organised crime family's are considered a "gang".

So the police are wrong when they call it "organised crime"?

I don't care where they set up shop, all I said was bull shit on the Democrats or whatever being your only organised crimes. M-13 is nothing to worry about, the drug wars are just fake news? Oh and are not wars "organised"

The Mafia mostly went legit. They found out they can make more money with less risk running businesses and casinos.

MS-13 is the absolute least of my worries. Neither I nor anyone I know will EVER encounter a gang member in any sort in a confrontation.

You're listening to fake news.

 

[magicalmoments]

Again... Anti fa!
I know this is an abbreviation used by MSM and the right wing rags to describe the loose and unconnected groups and individuals who turn up to protest at right wing rallies and on occasion whip their pussy arses. Here we have the wilfully ignorant using the abbreviation as though it was an organised group.
anti fa does not exist , other than as a convenient abbreviation.
Stop trying to present it as a violent left wing group.

 

[magicalmoments]

#302 above.
As it happens I did read it, not the nonsense about the middle classes, I read that last time the racist posted it. But the rest of it it did.
Irrespective, it doesn't stop it being right wing garbage. If you read it yourself you might see that for yourself.

 

[gunthernehmen]

Again... Anti fa!
I know this is an abbreviation used by MSM and the right wing rags

And everybody everywhere, except yourself.

It would appear you're fine with throwing around lies and propaganda of your own, but when someone defines YOUR side accurately, suddenly its all "stop being mean to the poor little revolutionaries".

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The Mafia mostly went legit. They found out they can make more money with less risk running businesses and casinos.

MS-13 is the absolute least of my worries. Neither I nor anyone I know will EVER encounter a gang member in any sort in a confrontation.

You're listening to fake news.

No what I am saying, ( and for the last time, since I know you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink) is you were 100% off the mark on your original post about democrats and organised violence in the US.

You should have just backed up and rephrased it, but no you doggedly moved it forward, so now you wish to purport the gang violence in the US as fake news.

 

[gunthernehmen]

No what I am saying, ( and for the last time, since I know you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make it drink) is you were 100% off the mark on your original post about democrats and organised violence in the US.

You should have just backed up and rephrased it, but no you doggedly moved it forward, so now you wish to purport the gang violence in the US as fake news.

It's certainly exaggerated beyond all recognition.

I certainly would not want to live in an inner city neighborhood, but you're implying the entire country is some kind of ghetto with bullets flying everywhere.

It simply isn't, although I can see how you might get that impression, watching the fake news channels and sites.

Gangs exist everywhere. Even in Canada. You have the same street gangs, drug cartels and mafia types as we do (fewer because you have a lower population density, but you have them).

If I believed SOME of the stuff I read about Canada, I'd be too fearful to ever go there! Too much gang violence!

 

[Dumpington]

Rightguid writes: "This impeachment will be seen by historians as the Democrat Party wetting the bed."

That's true. The House Democrats are actually AFRAID to send their impeachment over to the U.S. Senate out of FEAR of looking like inept pussies!

Draggonstone writes: "Btw, I'm certain that I heard your president Trump threaten violence if he was impeached."

Yeah, and Adam Schiff STILL insists that he has evidence that Trump's campaign colluded with the Russians. He's absolutely CERTAIN of it! (Only nobody cares!)

gunthernehmen writes: "Gangs exist everywhere. Even in Canada."

The two biggest POLITICAL gangs engaging in violence here in the United States were BOTH militant wings of our Democratic Party! In the American south there was the Ku Kux Klan, which even elected a U.S. Senator in Robert Byrd (who had reached the high rank of "Exalted Cyclops" in the KKK!) And nowadays, of course, there exists Antifa (especially powerful in liberal cities like Portland, Oregon) - which practices the very same fascist tactics first pioneered in fascist Italy by Mussolini, and later used by Hitler's Brownshirts in Germany!

 

[DawnONight]

Trump did threaten violence on the streets if he was impeached, he threatened it if he was defeated in 2020. As always just a bag of bullshit.

Can you cite an instance of Trump threatening "violence on the streets"?

#285 above.

Another collection of right wing, fake news, non fact checking, right wing sources and commentators. I wouldn't trust one word of the analysis presented here.

Just to be clear, in not arguing the facts and direct quotes which are sourced from recognised credible agencies, e.g Gallup. Just the analysis by the right wing biased commentators and agencies which is pretty much everyone else in this post.

I still question the logic of an argument that claims a successful economy by pointing to a significant reduction in size of the middle class without noting that this is not offset by an equivalent reduction in working class people who should also be moving up to fill this massive reduction in the numbers of middle class.
To my mind a successful economy would see an upward movement in all levels of income on a roughly proportionate basis. This would mean all classes would remain in proportion to each other, except maybe the lower levels.
To claim a successful economy because the middle class is shrinking just doesn't ring true.
In any event such analysis that doesn't add in the impact of rocketing national debt on which this growth is based, is fundamentally flawed.

It's funny, I meticulously cite every substantive post I make. All you can do is try to dismiss those facts as supposedly biased fake news, but cannot ever manage to cite any evidence contradicting my posts. Worse, you have been repeated shown to just make stuff up. Why should anyone take you seriously?

In fact, I have schooled you before on your suggestion that the fact the middle class is shrinking means the lower classes are not rising.

In 2018, the share of households earning less than $50,000 (i.e., the lower class) dropped below 40 percent for the first time since the U.S. Census data on this metric started to be collected in 1967. Back then, 54 percent of households earned less than $50,000.​

C. Follett, Middle Class Shrinking… As Households Become Richer, Cato Institute (Sep. 18, 2019).

Do the math. While the lower classes are rising into the middle class, the middle class are rising into true wealth even faster, thus the overall middle class is shrinking while most everyone becomes more prosperous.

Why do those on the Left consider prosperity so threatening? Is it because prosperous people can care for themselves and act independently without subjecting themselves to the yoke of "benign" government?

 

[Dumpington]

Speaker Pelosi called Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell a “rogue leader” last week after learning that Mitch intends to try the president in the U.S. Senate, as per the dictates of the U.S. Constititution, which the House speaker says doesn't take into account global warming or the institution of slavery and its effects on black Americans!

In her actions and words, Pelosi is sounding more & more like an unhinged Third World wannabee dictator than the final hope of her party. It wasn't enough for her to preside over a sham impeachment vote - she NOW has to insult the Senate leader and assert House authority over the constitutionally mandated Senate role in following up any federal impeachment. To top it off, she ALSO insists that the judicial branch has no role to play as broker between the legislative and executive branches of government.

Dressed appropriately in black, speaker Pelosi oversaw the third impeachment of a U.S. president on a purely party-line vote with little evidence and NO “clear and present danger” to our government. Remember, for many months Pelosi has been insisting that it was urgent to unseat President Trump before he did permanent damage to the nation. Her designated impeachment czar, fellow Californian Adam Schiff, invented two non-criminal charges to be brought against the president — abuse of power and obstruction of Congress — and then rammed them through three committees and the full House. We were told that the nation could NOT wait for a court to decide on the legality of the president’s assertion of executive privilege. NO TIME! Trump might collude with some new foreign power to interfere in our elections!

But then something remarkable happened. As soon as Pelosi had Trump where she wanted him, impeached by the House, she suddenly reversed course. Within minutes of her one-party victory, she announced that the House would NOT transmit the historic articles of impeachment to the Senate anytime soon. The problem? Well, it seems Pelosi discovered something more urgent than impeachment — Christmas break.

“We are not sending it ... because it is difficult to determine who the managers would be until we see the arena in which we will be participating,” Pelosi said, before doing everything in her power to shame, cajole and extort McConnell into running the trial according to the House’s rules — namely, that Trump gets no due process and the coddled whistleblower not be named.

Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says he wants the Senate Democrats to be able to come up with entirely NEW witnesses opening an entirely NEW investigation, signally that the House case is weak and indefensible. Schumer has no desire to see his party's U.S. senators humiliated like they were back when they overwhelmingly sided with Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford in their unsuccessful effort to block the Supreme Court confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh! THAT fiasco cost his party four senate seats in the 2018 mid-terms, and he has no desire to see it repeated with an unsuccessful (for Democrats) U.S. Senate impeachment trial!

Final Verdict: TRUMP WINS!

 

[Rightguide]

Speaker Pelosi called Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell a “rogue leader” last week after learning that Mitch intends to try the president in the U.S. Senate, as per the dictates of the U.S. Constititution, which the House speaker says doesn't take into account global warming or the institution of slavery and its effects on black Americans!

In her actions and words, Pelosi is sounding more & more like an unhinged Third World wannabee dictator than the final hope of her party. It wasn't enough for her to preside over a sham impeachment vote - she NOW has to insult the Senate leader and assert House authority over the constitutionally mandated Senate role in following up any federal impeachment. To top it off, she ALSO insists that the judicial branch has no role to play as broker between the legislative and executive branches of government.

Dressed appropriately in black, speaker Pelosi oversaw the third impeachment of a U.S. president on a purely party-line vote with little evidence and NO “clear and present danger” to our government. Remember, for many months Pelosi has been insisting that it was urgent to unseat President Trump before he did permanent damage to the nation. Her designated impeachment czar, fellow Californian Adam Schiff, invented two non-criminal charges to be brought against the president — abuse of power and obstruction of Congress — and then rammed them through three committees and the full House. We were told that the nation could NOT wait for a court to decide on the legality of the president’s assertion of executive privilege. NO TIME! Trump might collude with some new foreign power to interfere in our elections!

But then something remarkable happened. As soon as Pelosi had Trump where she wanted him, impeached by the House, she suddenly reversed course. Within minutes of her one-party victory, she announced that the House would NOT transmit the historic articles of impeachment to the Senate anytime soon. The problem? Well, it seems Pelosi discovered something more urgent than impeachment — Christmas break.

“We are not sending it ... because it is difficult to determine who the managers would be until we see the arena in which we will be participating,” Pelosi said, before doing everything in her power to shame, cajole and extort McConnell into running the trial according to the House’s rules — namely, that Trump gets no due process and the coddled whistleblower not be named.

Meanwhile, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says he wants the Senate Democrats to be able to come up with entirely NEW witnesses opening an entirely NEW investigation, signally that the House case is weak and indefensible. Schumer has no desire to see his party's U.S. senators humiliated like they were back when they overwhelmingly sided with Dr. Christine Blasey-Ford in their unsuccessful effort to block the Supreme Court confirmation of Brett Kavanaugh! THAT fiasco cost his party four senate seats in the 2018 mid-terms, and he has no desire to see it repeated with an unsuccessful (for Democrats) U.S. Senate impeachment trial!

Final Verdict: TRUMP WINS!

Colloquially speaking and in the vernacular universally understood by the left:

The Democrats achieved an momentary erection which quickly descended into a flimsy soft-on that denied them a happy ending leaving them angry, frustrated, and unfulfilled.

 

[magicalmoments]

#313 above
Google is our friend. God knows it's plain to see you're skilled at its use.
There are plenty of examples of trump and his cronies suggesting civil war or violence if he is defeated at the polls. In fact his dire threats before last years election have proved unfounded.

I point out when I disagree with the opinions of those commentators that you cut and paste on here. I don't think I've seen an original thought from you on here but your bias shows from those you choose to cut and paste on here. You point out when you disagree with me. That's the way it works. You should learn a little tolerance and cope with it.

 

[magicalmoments]

#309 above
Not at all
If anti-fa is an organisation, as you infer, then produce some evidence. If you can't then stop whining when you are called out on your lies.

 

[icanhelp1]

#313 above
Google is our friend. God knows it's plain to see you're skilled at its use.
There are plenty of examples of trump and his cronies suggesting civil war or violence if he is defeated at the polls. In fact his dire threats before last years election have proved unfounded.

I point out when I disagree with the opinions of those commentators that you cut and paste on here. I don't think I've seen an original thought from you on here but your bias shows from those you choose to cut and paste on here. You point out when you disagree with me. That's the way it works. You should learn a little tolerance and cope with it.

PUT UP or SHUT UP

 

[magicalmoments]

# 318 above.
No!
You might get away with that sort of attitude with your wife and kids but it doesn't wash on here.

 

[1Diver2]

fear mongering at it's worst

Can't get an impeachment right, much less removal ?
Try to convince people he's starting a civil war

which is funny actually, This weak attempt at a thinly veiled coup is much more likely to start that civil war than some out of context words made into a FB meme

 

[gunthernehmen]

#309 above
Not at all
If anti-fa is an organisation, as you infer, then produce some evidence. If you can't then stop whining when you are called out on your lies.

There's never direct evidence that terrorist organizations are sponsored or coordinated among themselves.

And speaking of evidence, SHOW US President Trump calling for or encouraging a civil war or even violence in the streets. He never has. He never will.

 

[phrodeau]

There's never direct evidence that terrorist organizations are sponsored or coordinated among themselves.

And speaking of evidence, SHOW US President Trump calling for or encouraging a civil war or even violence in the streets. He never has. He never will.

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178477539653771264

https://www.lawfareblog.com/armed-militias-are-taking-trumps-civil-war-tweets-seriously

 

[icanhelp1]

# 318 above.
No!
You might get away with that sort of attitude with your wife and kids but it doesn't wash on here.

CHUCKLES

 

[icanhelp1]

There's never direct evidence that terrorist organizations are sponsored or coordinated among themselves.

And speaking of evidence, SHOW US President Trump calling for or encouraging a civil war or even violence in the streets. He never has. He never will.

Antifa is a decentralised anti-fascist network, although with no leadership hierarchy it does flourish in the underground. Gets its roots from a post WWII model. Propagates violence against the non-violent hiding behind the veil of anti-white supremacist movement. See Charlottesville incident. They beat a journalist to a pulp in Portland Oregon, friendly group

 

[1Diver2]

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178477539653771264

https://www.lawfareblog.com/armed-militias-are-taking-trumps-civil-war-tweets-seriously

Are you gullible or just that desperate to believe in that Trump is a bad man mantra you're being fed?

the only thing he's guilty of is threatening your puppeteers way of life
and I hope he continues to succeed. Just as he promised he would.

 

[gunthernehmen]

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1178477539653771264

https://www.lawfareblog.com/armed-militias-are-taking-trumps-civil-war-tweets-seriously

I see. So you must be the whistle blower?

What you posted is a link showing Trump quoting an opinion voiced by another person.

I guess to a Democrat that's plenty enough to impeach him ROFL

You are genuinely an idiot.

 

[phrodeau]

I see. So you must be the whistle blower?

What you posted is a link showing Trump quoting an opinion voiced by another person.

I guess to a Democrat that's plenty enough to impeach him ROFL

You are genuinely an idiot.

That’s what happens when you don’t look things up before you post. You get the truth up your nose.

 

[gunthernehmen]

That’s what happens when you don’t look things up before you post. You get the truth up your nose.

You still haven't read what you linked to, have you.

 

[phrodeau]

You still haven't read what you linked to, have you.

We’ve been through this before. What one pastes or retweets becomes one’s own words. The article should make clear to you that some groups do think Trump means what he retweets, and are prepared to use their weapons against their fellow citizens.

But you won’t bother to care, because those guys aren’t active in your particular gated community.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The two biggest POLITICAL gangs engaging in violence here in the United States were BOTH militant wings of our Democratic Party! In the American south there was the Ku Kux Klan, which even elected a U.S. Senator in Robert Byrd (who had reached the high rank of "Exalted Cyclops" in the KKK!)

So pause for a second because I am confused?

The KKK isdescribed as a Right Wing organization:

" All three movements have called for the "purification" of American society and all are considered right-wing extremist organizations."

"They were described as acting as the military arm of the Democratic Party"

But you keep calling the Democrats "leftist" ???