literotica all about sex-positivity. So why such moralizing comments on Loving Wives?

[AchtungNight]

Had I read my own stories 10 years ago, I might have felt the same about them as the readers who post the ugly "cuck.. and whore.." comments (though I would never post the ugly comment). But now that the cement of our marriage has fully cured, I have a completely different feeling. Not only does the idea of her being with other men fail to upset me, it actually excites the hell out of me.

I can easily recall when the idea of my wife being with another man seemed abhorrent. That was probably the case for the first 15+ years of our marriage. Back then, I felt her being with another man posed a grave threat to our marriage; that she might sooo prefer sex with him that she'd leave me (and our kids) for the better lover. ..I suppose that is the nerve that my stories hit in other peoples' minds.

Over the years, that concern faded. Now, the idea that she'd leave me for another man simply b/c of a better orgasm seems utterly ridiculous. We've raised awesome kids, built a home, shared the love of our extended family, we still fuck like 20-somethings, and we look forward to sharing our retirement together and enjoying grandkids. Today, I know that nothing...nothing... would take one of us from he other - certainly not "better" sex. So, now the idea of her having sex - just sex, not sleeping with, vacationing with, romantic dinners, etc.. - with another man simply to scratch a natural, irrepressible urge, doesn't bother me at all. Have at it! ..And I hope the orgasms are awesome. I feel no more threatened by the idea than when she goes to get a massage. Call me weird.

Congratulations on achieving this. I hoped for it in my first marriage, didn’t work out. Maybe next time.

The lasting marriages in my stories are like you describe- with bisexuality and group engagements when applicable.

 

[SavannaT]

Insecure men I imagine, someone put it to me like this (“thats what she said” btw), you’re often seeing comments from insecure men in relationships who are either closeted cuckolds or see their wives in these women and now feel cheated on.

 

[lovecraft68]

I have a thread here about how the cuck/hotwife genre is big in the market, and also on sites like porn hub in visual form. The books don't generally see much in the way of negative reviews, and sales are solid. On the porn sites most comments are along the lines of being hot.

Even here on lit, if you go to the fetish forums, guys are always talking about wanting their wives to be with other men.

Only one place has the type of crap the OP mentions and that's the LW category. Why? Because it allows anonymous comments so all the incels and real men etc can spew venom with no consequence.

I'll add I'm done to death with the "Yeah, its the right wing magats" because I can tell you from experience there are plenty of 'men' from the other side of the fence who behave the same. Hatred of women doing as they please-even in fiction-is a bipartisan event.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Insecure men I imagine, someone put it to me like this (“thats what she said” btw), you’re often seeing comments from insecure men in relationships who are either closeted cuckolds or see their wives in these women and now feel cheated on.

Not just insecure men, but insecure women as well.

From a few of the comments I've received and from listening to both husbands and wives relating their woeful divorces, there are equal numbers of men and women who adamantly oppose extra-marital sex. They are monogamous, and fundamentally believe the marriage contract entitled them to control their spouse's body.

How many women file for divorce, based on their husband having a mistress or even paying a hooker.

Those types of men and women are equally insecure, often ignoring or rationalizing their own changes in the marriage. And they view their spouse's lover as a thief, taking something which belongs to them by contract.

EDIT: IMO, the reason we see such hateful comments from men in LW is due to the overwhelming number of men reading such stories. If the divorcees I know were reading about cheating husbands, they'd leave equally hateful comments.

 

[lovecraft68]

Not just insecure men, but insecure women as well.

From a few of the comments I've received and from listening to both husbands and wives relating their woeful divorces, there are equal numbers of men and women who adamantly oppose extra-marital sex. They are monogamous, and fundamental believe the marriage contract entitled them to control their spouse's body.

How many women file for divorce, based on their husband having a mistress or even paying a hooker.

Those types of men and women are equally insecure, often ignoring or rationalizing their own changes in the marriage. And they view their spouse's lover as a thief, taking something which belongs to them by contract.

In LW?

I once started a thread asking if people felt that women trolled, because I have rarely seen a female posting in LW that goes on those type of rants. Usually they're the ones that will give a positive comment, or if negative a reasonable one with something to it.

Maybe if men weren't such cheating dogs in real life-and far more often than women-wives might not be suspicious, and if I read your post correctly you mention women getting divorces for their husband having a mistress or seeing a hooker as if its wrong?

Not the first time you've come across as the exact type that haunts the LW comment section.

Again, I don't see female posters screaming raw hatred and demanding characters in a make-believe story be raped and tortured and jailed etc.

You're right about insecurity, and suffer from some of it yourself with the need to "women do it too!"

Yeah, they act just like incels. Sure they do.

 

[Lifestyle66]

In LW?

I once started a thread asking if people felt that women trolled, because I have rarely seen a female posting in LW that goes on those type of rants. Usually they're the ones that will give a positive comment, or if negative a reasonable one with something to it.

Maybe if men weren't such cheating dogs in real life-and far more often than women-wives might not be suspicious, and if I read your post correctly you mention women getting divorces for their husband having a mistress or seeing a hooker as if its wrong?

Not the first time you've come across as the exact stuck in the 1950's 'man' that pollutes the LW comment section.

Again, I don't see female posters screaming raw hatred and demanding characters in a make believe story be raped and tortured and jailed etc.

You're right about insecurity, and suffer from some of it yourself with the need to "women do it too!"

Yeah, they act just like incels. Sure they do.

Wow. You really are an ignorant biased hateful troll.

If you ever BOTHERED to read my stories and follow my comments, you MIGHT (if you could set aside you bias) see that I fully support sharing, swinging, sex-is-fun-so-get-over-yourself.

The comments I leave on BTB stories in LW depend on the level of "burn". I tend to rate stories which end peacefully with JUST a divorce and even split of everything BETTER than anything with violence. Violent retribution deserves a 2-rate, while a divorce and peaceful resolution of a cheating wife with both living "happily ever after" rate a 4. (5s are reserved for stories where everyone is having fun.)


If you read just my story "What Were You Thinking - Therapy" you'd find the husband's attitude (when his wife cheated):
********************
[psychologist] asked. "Perhaps you doubt that Jan still loves you, and she might want him instead."

"That would be her choice," I replied as if it would be an irrefutable fact. "We've always had the pact to never lie to each other and give the other two weeks' notice if we want to leave. I wouldn't stop her."

"Then how can you say you love her, if you won't fight for her?" he asked.

"Love works both ways," I pointed out. "If she loves someone else more than me, and she wants to leave me, then what would I be fighting for? Sloppy seconds of her love? If she can fuck another guy without loving him, I know I still win. But if she decides to leave me for him, then I'd be better off getting over it and moving on."
*****************

So, there's MY 1950's attitude, know-it-all!


EDIT: If you really want to see how far off you are in your judgmental attitudes, try reading my Pink Orchid story "The Maneater" (in Loving Wives). It's my FAVORITE wife's first person POV with her attitudes spelled out in 22K words. And if you DARE to read it, LEAVE A COMMENT!

 

[Lifestyle66]

Here are a few more Loving Wives stories to enlighten the judgmental:

A Perfect Marriage - 750 Words
"Husband’s monogamous life with his prim and proper wife."

Pavlov's Dog -- 750 Words
"Her needs and routines might get a girl killed."
(Currently one of my BEST so far, with a rating remaining under 2.0 with 349 loyal, mostly troll votes!)

 

[LMWM321]

I think it bears reminding those who posted negative comments to my LW stories that both the husband and wife were totally ok with the arrangement - indeed, they each saw it as a way of satisfying themselves AND keeping their marriage intact AND exciting.

Now it may be that people find such a premise implausible, but that WAS the premise. There was no cheating or lying.

 

[LMWM321]

Okay,

So my newest story was published last night - again in Loving Wives, a 1-page story called Midnight Yoga As Husband Sleeps. And again, an immediate flurry of negative comments. And not because the story sucked or because the writing was poor - which would be fine!! Instead, they're angry because my wife in the story was engaging in totally consensual non-monogamy. Why do guys go to that forum if the premise soooo upsets them? Ughh.....

Here's the story...

Midnight Yoga As Husband Sleeps

And here is a sample of the vitriolic responses.

by Anonymous user on 13 minutes ago
Better ending... Doug told Maria to fuck off and the next time she went there was a mysterious explosion destroying the entire place and killing every piece of shit guy and cheating skank slut present. Fortunately, nobody gave a fly fuck about this trash being taken out. Doug lived happily ever after thankful to be rid of his cunt whore wife.

by Anonymous user on 16 minutes ago
A femdom men-hater daylight-dreaming fantasy with ridiculous brainless husbands and "smart" whore wives.

And there's one criticizing the characters for not using condoms - which is actually explained in the story. Seriously?

 

[lovecraft68]

Okay,

So my newest story was published last night - again in Loving Wives, a 1-page story called Midnight Yoga As Husband Sleeps. And again, an immediate flurry of negative comments. And not because the story sucked or because the writing was poor - which would be fine!! Instead, they're angry because my wife in the story was engaging in totally consensual non-monogamy. Why do guys go to that forum if the premise soooo upsets them? Ughh.....

Here's the story...

Midnight Yoga As Husband Sleeps

And here is a sample of the vitriolic responses.

by Anonymous user on 13 minutes ago
Better ending... Doug told Maria to fuck off and the next time she went there was a mysterious explosion destroying the entire place and killing every piece of shit guy and cheating skank slut present. Fortunately, nobody gave a fly fuck about this trash being taken out. Doug lived happily ever after thankful to be rid of his cunt whore wife.

by Anonymous user on 16 minutes ago
A femdom men-hater daylight-dreaming fantasy with ridiculous brainless husbands and "smart" whore wives.

And there's one criticizing the characters for not using condoms - which is actually explained in the story. Seriously?

Top comment tells you to write in the 'fags" category. Fictional infidelity is a problem, but hate speech and homophobia isn't. Says it all about the crowd there.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Okay,

So my newest story was published last night - again in Loving Wives, a 1-page story called Midnight Yoga As Husband Sleeps. And again, an immediate flurry of negative comments. And not because the story sucked or because the writing was poor - which would be fine!! Instead, they're angry because my wife in the story was engaging in totally consensual non-monogamy. Why do guys go to that forum if the premise soooo upsets them? Ughh.....

Here's the story...

Midnight Yoga As Husband Sleeps

And here is a sample of the vitriolic responses.

by Anonymous user on 13 minutes ago
Better ending... Doug told Maria to fuck off and the next time she went there was a mysterious explosion destroying the entire place and killing every piece of shit guy and cheating skank slut present. Fortunately, nobody gave a fly fuck about this trash being taken out. Doug lived happily ever after thankful to be rid of his cunt whore wife.

by Anonymous user on 16 minutes ago
A femdom men-hater daylight-dreaming fantasy with ridiculous brainless husbands and "smart" whore wives.

And there's one criticizing the characters for not using condoms - which is actually explained in the story. Seriously?

Okay, you asked, and I'll tell you why you're getting such a negative response:

This doesn't read like a "Loving Wife" story, but as the one anon comment says, a femdom, humiliation, fetish story.

First: The writing does need some work. It reads like a caricature of a swinger lifestyle couple, as if you are deliberately trying to make it a joke. There was no prior knowledge or agreement by the husband that she was going out to a gangbang. And the writing style adds to that joke feeling.

Then, in MOST open marriages, there are (should be) some rules about discretion and safety. The other spouse can be affected by negative opinions when their spouse is discovered in public fucking others. So, the yoga scenario was stretching that loving wife assumption of how free an open marriage is. Not all of the men going there would necessarily have wives who knew about it and were equally shared. But those extra men might know and recognize the women lying there waiting to be fucked. And how many of those men know the husband? Her husband has no idea who might bring up the subject in the future or under what circumstances. So, a clueless lack of discretion.

Next is her DEMAND that her husband PROVE himself by insisting that he eat her out when she's still filled with the cum of those who fucked her. That probably cost you about a 0.5 to 0.75 negative hit by even those LW readers who approve of swingers. And throwing in all of those 'my love's doesn't make it a Loving Wife story. Those types of words in an LW story suggest the author is deliberately trolling the readers.

I had similar criticism for another author who posted a fetish story in LW because she added the word "Darling" to the title. Actions speak louder than words. So, in what way is she a "Loving Wife" with such unreasonable DEMANDS that he PROVE himself? Why doesn't she just insist he suck five of her lover's cocks to prove himself? The end effect is the same, and it should be posted to the Gay category.

I wrote in one of my LW stories where the husband asks his wife for a blowjob, saying "You COULD do it, so if you really love me then you would." Her response is something like "That's blackmail! How much do you love ME, insisting I do something degusting that I don't want to do?" (Do you see the point where emotional blackmail is a turnoff?)

And finally, regardless of what others might cluelessly think, about 50-60% of the LW readers HATE any extra-marital sex, and some of their 1's are scraped within a day or two. Those types are looking for cheating wives being punished (BTB stories). The remaining 40 to 50% appreciate a well written swinger/sharing story and will keep the rating at about a 3.0 or above.

Your story is not a "loving" wife, but a femdom, humiliation, fetish story. And upsetting BOTH the sharing-haters and the sharing-lovers with a fetish is why it's trending low in that LW category.

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

Okay,

So my newest story was published last night - again in Loving Wives, a 1-page story called Midnight Yoga As Husband Sleeps. And again, an immediate flurry of negative comments. And not because the story sucked or because the writing was poor - which would be fine!! Instead, they're angry because my wife in the story was engaging in totally consensual non-monogamy. Why do guys go to that forum if the premise soooo upsets them? Ughh.....

Why do authors keep posting their shit to the wrong category after utterly failing to understand their audience, and then come to the forum to complain about their customers not liking their misplaced product? Ughh...

Seriously, though, if you're truly old enough to be on here, then, in most countries, you should be old enough to vote. Meaning, you should have learned by now that, just because something's labeled one way, doesn't mean that that's what you'll actually get.

It's not rocket science. And yet, not only did you utterly fail to read your audience, you now argue by proving that you also don't understand the contents of your own writing in relation to the category you posted it in. Loving Wives is about "extramarital fun". But, going by what you wrote, the wife may have had fun... but that wasn't part of your story! It happened prior to your story! Your story is exclusively about the perceived degradation and endangerment of the husband by making him eat all of those creampies.

Here's how the negative reviewers probably took in your story:

They read about a husband being surprised, confused, and almost shocked at finding other men's sexual fluids between his wife's legs, giving readers the impression that this was, in no way, a mutually agreed-upon thing. They then scroll to the end of the story, to check if he'll react how they hope. They instead find the wife demanding her husband eat the sperm of about a dozen other men he doesn't know, doesn't know whether they're clean, and hear the clear threat in the wife's words. They then rate your story accordingly.

So, please, post your humiliation and degradation fetish to the fetish category, and you will find it is being received A LOT better.

 

[lustychimera]

Why do authors keep posting their shit to the wrong category after utterly failing to understand their audience, and then come to the forum to complain about their customers not liking their misplaced product? Ughh...

Seriously, though, if you're truly old enough to be on here, then, in most countries, you should be old enough to vote. Meaning, you should have learned by now that, just because something's labeled one way, doesn't mean that that's what you'll actually get.

It's not rocket science. And yet, not only did you utterly fail to read your audience, you now argue by proving that you also don't understand the contents of your own writing in relation to the category you posted it in. Loving Wives is about "extramarital fun". But, going by what you wrote, the wife may have had fun... but that wasn't part of your story! It happened prior to your story! Your story is exclusively about the perceived degradation and endangerment of the husband by making him eat all of those creampies.

Here's how the negative reviewers probably took in your story:

They read about a husband being surprised and almost shocked at finding other men's sexual fluids between his wife's legs. They then scroll to the end of the story, to check if he'll react how they hope. They instead find the wife demanding her husband eat the sperm of about a dozen other men he doesn't know, doesn't know whether they're clean, and hear the clear thread in the wife's words. They then rate your story accordingly.

So, please, post your humiliation and degradation fetish to the fetish category, and you will find it is being received A LOT better.

I don't think they genuinely wanted to discuss the category. I always take these kinds of posts as not-so-subtle adverts first and foremost, which is weird, because they're just advertising to the advertisers, like the main contributors are just waiting for an opening to talk over each other with an advert of their own.

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

I don't think they genuinely wanted to discuss the category. I always take these kinds of posts as not-so-subtle adverts first and foremost, which is weird, because they're just advertising to the advertisers, like the main contributors are just waiting for an opening to talk over each other with an advert of their own.

Huh... I haven't looked at it from that angle before. But it makes a lot of sense.

 

[lovecraft68]

Why do authors keep posting their shit to the wrong category after utterly failing to understand their audience, and then come to the forum to complain about their customers not liking their misplaced product? Ughh...

Seriously, though, if you're truly old enough to be on here, then, in most countries, you should be old enough to vote. Meaning, you should have learned by now that, just because something's labeled one way, doesn't mean that that's what you'll actually get.

It's not rocket science. And yet, not only did you utterly fail to read your audience, you now argue by proving that you also don't understand the contents of your own writing in relation to the category you posted it in. Loving Wives is about "extramarital fun". But, going by what you wrote, the wife may have had fun... but that wasn't part of your story! It happened prior to your story! Your story is exclusively about the perceived degradation and endangerment of the husband by making him eat all of those creampies.

Here's how the negative reviewers probably took in your story:

They read about a husband being surprised, confused, and almost shocked at finding other men's sexual fluids between his wife's legs, giving readers the impression that this was, in no way, a mutually agreed-upon thing. They then scroll to the end of the story, to check if he'll react how they hope. They instead find the wife demanding her husband eat the sperm of about a dozen other men he doesn't know, doesn't know whether they're clean, and hear the clear threat in the wife's words. They then rate your story accordingly.

So, please, post your humiliation and degradation fetish to the fetish category, and you will find it is being received A LOT better.

First off, any argument on what belongs there pretty much ends with this is where Laurel puts them. If you try to post incest in romance, she will stick it in taboo, NC will get tossed in NC even with other elements, etc...

So the railing away of people that 'cheating wives' aren't 'loving wives' isn't how the site-who decides what goes where-sees it. I've always seen the term loving as being a bit tongue in cheek maybe as in they're loving everybody. That's just my take.

Cheating in the realm of erotica is a fetish, and like all fetishes it has sub-categories. Cheating, sex with other men with husband's knowledge and approval, sex with the husband present, stag, cuck, etc...these are all viable parts of the kink along with old fashioned swapping and swinging. It all fits there according to the site, and a good portion of the readers minus one loony toons faction. That faction BTW doesn't stick to just bashing cheating stories, as this last example proves they attack stories where the husband is consenting to it.

Like in many cases, the knife cuts both ways. Why do people put stories there that they know these trolls will attack? But why do people who know these stories are there, especially the ones tagged properly keep reading them?

Laurel's definition of what goes there is trump, so for me, and I'm sure others, we will continue to go by what the site allows and not be bullied off by a bunch of frothing loons who's insecurity or weird morality(they are on a porn site complaining about...porn.) has them spewing apoplectic hate. Like I said, and mentioned in a thread from last year, I don't know anywhere else that this happens, and the reason is lit allows anon and this is what you get when you do.

I also see people coming here and complaining about it no different from the other endless threads where people bitch about rude comments, or down votes or how could anyone not give their masterpiece the 5 it deserves. People like to vent.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

I don't think they genuinely wanted to discuss the category. I always take these kinds of posts as not-so-subtle adverts first and foremost, which is weird, because they're just advertising to the advertisers, like the main contributors are just waiting for an opening to talk over each other with an advert of their own.

Funnily, that is true for literally any topic in AH. I am truly amazed at the nearly pathological need for some people to link or at least mention their stories in response to any query. For example, this would be a typical AH thread:

OP: "Hello, fellow authors! I am interested in the mating behavior of Netherland Dwarf rabbits. Does anyone know anything about that? I need it for my story."
Typical AH-er: "Yeah, I have no idea about that, but my story *insert link* mentions a carrot on page four."

 

[RetroFan]

The pay-off for many readers is different to the other categories.

Erotic scenes are the pay-off in most categories and while this is true for many LW readers, others want to see the wife punished for her infidelity, such as being humiliated by being revealed as a cheater for everyone to see or divorced and losing custody of her kids in the process. This is their pay-off. I have had comments wishing that cheating wives, or those who enable the cheating such as a cuckold husband who know of their wife's infidelity but do nothing about it or somebody who knowingly cheats with a married woman will die of cancer, AIDS or some other disease, will be killed in some sort of accident, commit suicide or even be murdered, but this is a bit extreme.

However to give the LW readers some credit, they do actually read the stories in some detail and in some of my stores have picked up and commented on some of the more minor details.

 

[Lifestyle66]

Funnily, that is true for literally any topic in AH. I am truly amazed at the nearly pathological need for some people to link or at least mention their stories in response to any query. For example, this would be a typical AH thread:

OP: "Hello, fellow authors! I am interested in the mating behavior of Netherland Dwarf rabbits. Does anyone know anything about that? I need it for my story."
Typical AH-er: "Yeah, I have no idea about that, but my story *insert link* mentions a carrot on page four."

You're describing ME! Thank you.

I find there are some people who post "Read my latest story." But without a link, they expect me to look it up.

On the other hand, I read many "expert opinions" in the AH about the reactions of the LW readers, but with zero evidence, merely calling them "misogynistic, women-hating trolls". So, I offer my own evidence of the stories with ratings and reactions to try showing otherwise. Without evidence, then I would just be posting my own shitty "expert opinion".

 

[Seadog777]

I felt compelled to delete 2 that were incredibly vile, including one that threatened violence upon both my wife and me.

I've gotten a few death threats

Just delete them and move on.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I've gotten a few death threats

Just delete them and move on.

How would they even find you? I guess the CIA or FBI could do it, but it seems beyond the capabilities of the average LW reader.

That reminds of the film version of Being There (far better than the novel) where the government tries to figure out something about Chance the Gardener. They are amazed that they can't do it because he left no traceable info about himself.

 

[Seadog777]

How would they even find you?

I never sweated it.
Found it quite humorous actually.
I simply reported them and moved on.

 

[Helgamite]

I’ve posted just three stories. The two posted in Loving Wife’s elicited some moralizing comments, particularly the last about my mature kinky wife who enjoys periodically selling herself - all with my knowledge and support. Though I don’t like the idea of deleting comments, I felt compelled to delete 2 that were incredibly vile, including one that threatened violence upon both my wife and me.

I’m curious why this particular comment wasn’t refused by the editors. And why would people go to a sex-positive kink forum then blast people who are sex-positive and embrace their consensual kinks?

If you’re curious, here's the story. And if you happen to read it please leave feedback.

https://www.literotica.com/s/mature-hot-wife-turns-a-trick

problem 1 is, you posted it in LW. one of THE most conflicted categories on Lit!

dont take the comments section too seriously. most of those in LW belong to the insane asylum with their vitriol and demands.

this is only my personal opinion, but LW is one of the most controversial categories and can be very difficult to get a good story without anger on it. don't take it to hard.

 

[TheRedChamber]

This doesn't read like a "Loving Wife" story, but as the one anon comment says, a femdom, humiliation, fetish story.

First: The writing does need some work..

Your story is not a "loving" wife, but a femdom, humiliation, fetish story. And upsetting BOTH the sharing-haters and the sharing-lovers with a fetish is why it's trending low in that LW category.

Cheating in the realm of erotica is a fetish, and like all fetishes it has sub-categories. Cheating, sex with other men with husband's knowledge and approval, sex with the husband present, stag, cuck, etc...these are all viable parts of the kink along with old fashioned swapping and swinging. It all fits there according to the site, and a good portion of the readers minus one loony toons faction. That faction BTW doesn't stick to just bashing cheating stories, as this last example proves they attack stories where the husband is consenting to it.

First of all, the story is 'fine'. You can critique the plot or the dialogue or whatever, but at a basic level it tickles the fetish it's going for and "if it's the sort of thing you like, you'll probably like it."

The thing with what I'm going to call 'willing cuckold' stories is that there isn't a fully natural place for them.

Loving Wives: Should be the right category but attracts hate. At the very least the stories rub up wrongly against the 'Heartbreak cheating' ones.

Interracial: A good fit if your wive's bull happens to be black, but if not, then not. Tends to be controversial enough in its own right.

Mature: Again, if you're writing an older wife it can work, but the highest rated mature stories tend to be more 'cuddly' than this.

Fetish: You could argue that this story comes under 'humiliation'. Some people have been putting cuck stories there in an attempt to find a friendly audience. I don't particularly like this because if everyone writing a cuck story started posting their it would soon drown out the stories about latex, or watersports or lactation. Coupled this with exiles from other categories (more extreme Trans and BDSM stories end up here as well) and it makes this category just a miscellany of random stuff.

BDSM: I don't really see the femdom aspects of this. There's a bit of powerplay going on, but not enough really make it fit.

Group: This is probably the best fit (although a fun category to post in as no one seems to ever comment) given the shenanigans described in the story. Group does seem to get reserved for basic threesomes and gentle swinging from what I've seen.

 

[RejectReality]

Fetish: You could argue that this story comes under 'humiliation'. Some people have been putting cuck stories there in an attempt to find a friendly audience. I don't particularly like this because if everyone writing a cuck story started posting their it would soon drown out the stories about latex, or watersports or lactation. Coupled this with exiles from other categories (more extreme Trans and BDSM stories end up here as well) and it makes this category just a miscellany of random stuff.

It would have less of a chance of drowning out everything else if the majority of authors there didn't deliberately obscure the fetish in the title and description. I still contend the reason the category is something of a backwater is that you have to either open the story or dig into the tags to find out what kink a story is servicing.

Maybe the "real" readers in the category do all their selection via tags, but the majority of the readership on the site doesn't. The cuck authors don't seem to have this self-defeating disease, and coupled with the LW readership that's migrating along with the authors, they will drown everything else out unless the pure fetish authors get over themselves and start calling out their kink.

Capturing even a percentage of that migrating cuck readership plus casuals who won't tag search could seriously pump up the category's numbers, which would in turn attract more authors, which would expand the pure fetish stories as well.

 

[TheRedChamber]

It would have less of a chance of drowning out everything else if the majority of authors there didn't deliberately obscure the fetish in the title and description. I still contend the reason the category is something of a backwater is that you have to either open the story or dig into the tags to find out what kink a story is servicing.

I don't agree that it's the majority of authors, although there are certainly the occasional stories that don't wear its kink out and proud. A quick scan of the last seven days of stories and most are pretty clear - and you've still got quite a few cuck stories, a few sissy stories and at least one story that looks at first glance like it belongs in incest. I don't think its helpful to inflate the category with stories that don't really fit within that category - perhaps there is a direct line from hotwife to smoking or panty wetting, but I don't really see it.