Sanders job is done, he should quit the race

[BotanyBoy]

Oh I've been to the Bible Belt. I simply trust Congress to keep that shit in check for the most part.

For me it's more like

Cruz=shitty
Trump= ?????

He very well might do some things good economically. I have a hard time buying it but he might.

A democrat congress yes, GOP congress? Not so much....

I can see that though.

Oh I do to...I think he would be a pretty craptastic POTUS....both of them.

Oh well *shrug* nothing I can do about it but sit and watch it all go down.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

After this week he will be a loser and everything coming out of his mouth will seem like sour grapes. He should start working on what things Hilary could do for him in the platform. drawing together should be the game plan now.

Hilary can & will not do anything for him unless she concedes. (Unlike the GOP, behind those 2, I couldn't name the next-best-scoring candidate in the polls.)

 

[Sean Renaud]

A democrat congress yes, GOP congress? Not so much....

I can see that though.

Oh I do to...I think he would be a pretty craptastic POTUS....both of them.

Oh well *shrug* nothing I can do about it but sit and watch it all go down.

I don't think the GOP is really THAT religious. I mean some of them are but I think enough of them aren't to keep the rest MOSTLY in line.

The other is just simple preference. I'll grab an electric fence if you dare me to. IT's gonna hurt but I can deal. You know what I won't do? Stick my hand in a mysterious hole. There might be a Scarlett Johanson's tits on the other side or there might be a starving honey badger. There might be nothing. But I don't know what it is and that is unnacceptable unless I have zero choices.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I don't think the GOP is really THAT religious. I mean some of them are but I think enough of them aren't to keep the rest MOSTLY in line.

The other is just simple preference. I'll grab an electric fence if you dare me to. IT's gonna hurt but I can deal. You know what I won't do? Stick my hand in a mysterious hole. There might be a Scarlett Johanson's tits on the other side or there might be a starving honey badger. There might be nothing. But I don't know what it is and that is unnacceptable unless I have zero choices.

Fear of the unknown is the oldest and deepest of man's fears.......fair enough.

Just for the record though, I think they may not be THAT religious but I do think they don't want to be seen as less than religious.

 

[Iceprincess12]

Pamonkey? (yes, it's really a Native American tribe)

The Pamunkey Indian Tribe is one of 11 Virginia Indian tribes recognized by the Commonwealth of Virginia, and the state's only federally recognized tribe.
In February 2016 the Pamunkey received a court victory over a challenge to their right to exist.

No wonder he is so grouchy, he only officially existed this year! I might feel a little testy too if I had to sit on my reservation and couldn't qualify for a casino grant to help my people *wink* (code for drinking, happy smoke and scalping...uh oh, I mean decorative headpiece ornamentation)

 

[Sean Renaud]

Fear of the unknown is the oldest and deepest of man's fears.......fair enough.

Just for the record though, I think they may not be THAT religious but I do think they don't want to be seen as less than religious.

And I'm well aware that it's not entirely rational.

I don't think they want to be seen as less than religious. Every so often they surprise me but I expect anybody named named Huckabee to take the same stance on rolling back various social aspects that I like about America with the same fervor that Obama took moving things forward. I.E. if the universe drops something in their lap sure they'll take it. God save us if a gay couple bombs an orphanage and abortion clinic. But otherwise much like Bush they'll talk some and move along.

 

[BotanyBoy]

And I'm well aware that it's not entirely rational.

Doesn't have to be rational to be real.

I don't think they want to be seen as less than religious. Every so often they surprise me but I expect anybody named named Huckabee to take the same stance on rolling back various social aspects that I like about America with the same fervor that Obama took moving things forward. I.E. if the universe drops something in their lap sure they'll take it. God save us if a gay couple bombs an orphanage and abortion clinic. But otherwise much like Bush they'll talk some and move along.

True....

And besides I'm not ever going back to a state that would even think about enforcing the kind of silly shit that those nuts want to do.

 

[Real_American17]

And besides I'm not ever going back to a state that would even think about enforcing the kind of silly shit that those nuts want to do.

Fuck off you oath breaker, you're nothing but a degenerate vermin SJW communist fascist piece of shit.

No morals, no values, disgusting filth pretending to be human, take off your mask and let the light of day expose you and burn you back into your cave!

 

[BotanyBoy]

Fuck off you oath breaker, you're nothing but a degenerate vermin SJW communist fascist piece of shit.

No morals, no values, disgusting filth pretending to be human, take off your mask and let the light of day expose you and burn you back into your cave!

I'm an oath breaker and communist because I don't want America to be a theocracy?

LOL that's one of the more ridiculous things you've come up with.

I have morals and values, you're just making shit up again!

Big shocker

 

[Aglaopheme]

I have a very selfish reason for wanting Bernie to drop out now as opposed to waiting until after California.

 

[JackLuis]

I have a very selfish reason for wanting Bernie to drop out now as opposed to waiting until after California.

And what would that selfish reason be?

Did you place a big bet in Vegas?

 

[Sean Renaud]

I don't want Trump to be President and lots of Bernie supporters are increasingly going "Bernie or Bust." The longer we have to wrangle them the better off it is.

 

[mikey2much]

today should tell the tale

After we find out the results of today's elections we will see if Bernie is going to become a destructive force to the progressive cause. If he doesn't perform well enough to see a victory, then he should start to support Hilary and work for his policies through her. He can still do what he does so well and his views will continue to be picked up by the press.

I like and admire Bernie, but he is only the pied piper, his followers are the power and they go where he sends them. If they go with Hilary they automatically bring her further to the left as they become part of her base.

Bernie is a class act, he will do the right thing, I just hope he does it at the right time.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Listening around various blogs and Facebook pages I'm note sure he's the pied pieper so much as the Bermuda Triangle.

 

[mikey2much]

this election is closer to something out of the twilight zone

Bernie has surprised everyone with the size of the following he has built. He is most definitely not just a fringe candidate. That is why I hope he joins forces and starts supporting Hilary.

 

[Sean Renaud]

While I still think he's a "Fringe" candidate that isn't my point. My point is listen to Bot? I think the only thing Bernie could hope to accomplish by backing Hillary at any point would be to lose support oh and get one of these.

http://straightbetsystem.com/images/soldout.gif​

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

Bernie has surprised everyone with the size of the following he has built. He is most definitely not just a fringe candidate. That is why I hope he joins forces and starts supporting Hilary.

I read 2 straight posts by you that both claim he should support Hilary.

I would have no problem with her being President (support him over her, but her over any GOP), & I never have a problem when any candidate ends campaign/drops-out, but IMO, if you publicly announce you're supporting someone you were running against (in same party or in nat'l election), you might as well have never run.

 

[sr71plt]

I think he should continue at least until/if she accumulates enough primary delegates (not including super delegates) to be nominated and then suspend his campaign. (Note that this didn't happen in the Obama-Clinton race. Obama needed the super delegates to secure the nomination). At the convention I think he and his supporters should weigh in on the platform. But then, if he doesn't publicly support her if she's the nominee--and encourage his supporters to do as well--and doesn't go out and support Democrats running for Congress, that's pretty much proof that he was only a Democrat to steal a party apparatus to continue being an independent.

Once the party had accepted him as a Democratic candidate, I don't mind him continuing to run--on this forum I've just been irritated by those who purposely misread reality and claimed he was winning--at any point in the campaign--or that he should expect support from the supper delegates, or that there was no right for those working their tails off in the party to deserve more of a say in the nominee than those who just strolled in to cast a vote, or who claimed that Hillary was stealing the nomination from someone who wasn't even a Democrat or was contributing anything to the Democratic cause when Hillary as worked her ass off for the party for decades.

 

[Aglaopheme]

And what would that selfish reason be?

Did you place a big bet in Vegas?

I will up my odds of going to the National Convention by taking all of the Bernie or Bust folks out of the running.

 

[L1tTleD1fferent]

I think he should continue at least until/if she accumulates enough primary delegates (not including super delegates) to be nominated and then suspend his campaign. (Note that this didn't happen in the Obama-Clinton race. Obama needed the super delegates to secure the nomination). At the convention I think he and his supporters should weigh in on the platform. But then, if he doesn't publicly support her if she's the nominee--and encourage his supporters to do as well--and doesn't go out and support Democrats running for Congress, that's pretty much proof that he was only a Democrat to steal a party apparatus to continue being an independent.

No. It's proof he's intelligent, which many have already seen/read.

He's running right now as a Dem. If he gets the nomination at the convention, he will continue to do so. If she does, I don't see him even trying to run as/with another party. If she becomes the Dem nominee, giving his support to the one his party chooses is needless & pointless.

 

[Aglaopheme]

No. It's proof he's intelligent, which many have already seen/read.

He's running right now as a Dem. If he gets the nomination at the convention, he will continue to do so. If she does, I don't see him even trying to run as/with another party. If she becomes the Dem nominee, giving his support to the one his party chooses is needless & pointless.

Yeah, what? Are you paying any attention to this cycle?

 

[Sean Renaud]

I read 2 straight posts by you that both claim he should support Hilary.

I would have no problem with her being President (support him over her, but her over any GOP), & I never have a problem when any candidate ends campaign/drops-out, but IMO, if you publicly announce you're supporting someone you were running against (in same party or in nat'l election), you might as well have never run.

Bullshit. If you don't you should be driven from the party in most cases.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I think he should continue at least until/if she accumulates enough primary delegates (not including super delegates) to be nominated and then suspend his campaign. (Note that this didn't happen in the Obama-Clinton race. Obama needed the super delegates to secure the nomination). At the convention I think he and his supporters should weigh in on the platform. But then, if he doesn't publicly support her if she's the nominee--and encourage his supporters to do as well--and doesn't go out and support Democrats running for Congress, that's pretty much proof that he was only a Democrat to steal a party apparatus to continue being an independent.

Once the party had accepted him as a Democratic candidate, I don't mind him continuing to run--on this forum I've just been irritated by those who purposely misread reality and claimed he was winning--at any point in the campaign--or that he should expect support from the supper delegates, or that there was no right for those working their tails off in the party to deserve more of a say in the nominee than those who just strolled in to cast a vote, or who claimed that Hillary was stealing the nomination from someone who wasn't even a Democrat or was contributing anything to the Democratic cause when Hillary as worked her ass off for the party for decades.

^^^^^

 

[BotanyBoy]

If they go with Hilary they automatically bring her further to the left as they become part of her base.

No they won't...she doesn't give a fuck about them, she's got the meat of the low information voters who don't really give a fuck and vote whatever way FOX/CNN tells them the herd is voting.

"Hillary has already won!! She's INEVITABLE!!!"

They have been beating that drum incessantly for like a year now...and it will pay off for her.

While I still think he's a "Fringe" candidate that isn't my point. My point is listen to Bot? I think the only thing Bernie could hope to accomplish by backing Hillary at any point would be to lose support oh and get one of these.

http://straightbetsystem.com/images/soldout.gif​

Pretty much.

But then, if he doesn't publicly support her if she's the nominee--and encourage his supporters to do as well--and doesn't go out and support Democrats running for Congress, that's pretty much proof that he was only a Democrat to steal a party apparatus to continue being an independent.

Exactly....

There is no doubt that's exactly what he's trying to do. He and his supporters want the elitist scum NeoLibs the fuck out of the DNC because all they really are, is Republicans without the various minorityphobias and bible thumping.

I've just been irritated by those who purposely misread reality and claimed he was winning--at any point in the campaign--or that he should expect support from the supper delegates, or that there was no right for those working their tails off in the party to deserve more of a say in the nominee than those who just strolled in to cast a vote, or who claimed that Hillary was stealing the nomination from someone who wasn't even a Democrat or was contributing anything to the Democratic cause when Hillary as worked her ass off for the party for decades.

All positions you ascribed me out of partisan asshurt for calling Clinton the scummy sack of fuckin' shit that she is.

Give me a break....you get irritated over anyone who calls Clinton what she is because you're supporting her. She's so fucking bad you have to use 'She's been paying party dues!!' to justify support for her as if that somehow makes her not a DINO corporate whore bag

What do you call Romney in a pantsuit? (R)odham....

 

[sr71plt]

You're foaming at the mouth ineffectually again.