When did liberals fall in love with Islam/Islamics?

[Sean Renaud]

It happened when Liberal/wackos realized Islam/Wackos hated America just as much as they do.

Except it never happened, we love America, we just hate stupid.

Once an hour or so on average in this huge country 300 million+,some caveman picks up a rock and kills another caveman. That's how you arrive at such a number (8,000+) Except they've advanced to the point wear the cavemen now use guns. You might also argue that many of the victims had some hand in their own demise, as this is often the case. Now you want to compare this state of affairs to the attack of innocents on 9/11 and compare the two. You are deranged. Cavemen have been killing each other for years. The weapon has changed but they are still doing it. Now if we want to protect ourselves from these Neanderhals, we put the bad ones in jail. We say don't do it again. If we know people are "evil-doers" we watch them and don't invite them into our country. Seems like common sense to me.

We don't know these people are evil doers.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We don't know these people are evil doers.

We do know there is an elevated risk of them being evil doers...


OH NOEZ! Bot is just a redneck hater!!!

 

[RUlookingup]

Except it never happened, we love America, we just hate stupid.



We don't know these people are evil doers.

Your right we don't. We need to know who is walking through the door. Like I've been saying. Comparing terrorism like 9/11 to the daily miscreants who shoot each other on a daily basis shows your disconnect with what is going on here.
Here's wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. If you believe in other religions or none at all, I wish you peace in your lives and blessings for your families.
We might disagree politically but it is both our right and duty to do so. It is a vigorous "schlonging about" of ideas that makes for a more prosperous and healthy union.

 

[BotanyBoy]

We need to know who is walking through the door.

NOPE~!!! Absofuckinglutely NOT...that's racist and would offend liburhulz. But most importantly those in Europe would look down on use and we just can't have any of that now!!

 

[Sean Renaud]

Your right we don't. We need to know who is walking through the door. Like I've been saying. Comparing terrorism like 9/11 to the daily miscreants who shoot each other on a daily basis shows your disconnect with what is going on here.
Here's wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. If you believe in other religions or none at all, I wish you peace in your lives and blessings for your families.
We might disagree politically but it is both our right and duty to do so. It is a vigorous "schlonging about" of ideas that makes for a more prosperous and healthy union.

It's only accurate if you're point is not wanting to be dead as opposed to wanting to be a prick. We know who is walking through the door as much as is possible.

Blah blah we've learned over the last eight years that vigorous schlonging about means we accomplish absolutely nothing. I'd damn near rather have lost.

 

[PoppingTom]

We need to know who is walking through the door.

Except if he's from Pakistan, right?

 

[PoppingTom]

We do know there is an elevated risk of them being evil doers...

Naa, you don't really care about that.

But you DO care if it's a Syrian or a Pakistani terrorist. That's different. Pakistani deserve to be in the US of A, no matter what they think, but Syrians ?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Naa, you don't really care about that.

But you DO care if it's a Syrian or a Pakistani terrorist. That's different. Pakistani deserve to be in the US of A, no matter what they think, but Syrians ?

Oh look the smug German is here to tell me what I care about.

Apparently he knows what's going on in my head better than I do...I tell ya, that German superiority sure does come with some really neat perks hua?

 

[PoppingTom]

Oh look the smug German is here to tell me what I care about.

Apparently he knows what's going on in my head better than I do...

Apparently, I measure things that are there, and I saw your arguments so far, and....naa, you don't give a fuck about terrorists, not as much as you give fucks about Syrians, terrorist or not.

If you'd really take care of who's coming to your country, you could answer the question why 3 times more Pakistanis and 300 times more potential ISIS terrorists from Iraq come to your country than Syrians.

Just continue playing the huff Californian sorehead, but I can't take you serious in this.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Apparently, I measure things that are there, and I saw your arguments so far, and....naa, you don't give a fuck about terrorists, not as much as you give fucks about Syrians, terrorist or not.

Generally speaking you're right. Still a stupid idea to let Syrian refugees in.

If you'd really take care of who's coming to your country, you could answer the question why 3 times more Pakistanis and 300 times more potential ISIS terrorists from Iraq come to your country than Syrians.

Caring has nothing to do with answering your stupid fuckin' question you seem obsessed with.

How are all those Syrians doing in Germany

Just continue playing the huff Californian sorehead, but I can't take you serious in this.

Says the guy who thinks I can only be serious if I obsess over some un-related bullshit like him. LOL

Man you're German arrogance knows no bounds does it?

You tell me what I think, give me my opinions and then tell me you can't take me serious over a bunch of shit YOU made up. LMFAO.

 

[urguyscott]

ISIS does not believe in a God any more than Hitler or even Obama or the left wing fools in this country. They use it like many corrupt organizations use the name of God to further their own evil desires. They have killed more people of the faith they claim is theirs, destroyed their own cities, bombed their own religious buildings, sold into slavery, murdered and robbed. They are bandits who want to return the world to the dark ages and are doing it with the help of Imperialist China and Russia and the most terrible of all with the help of Obama and Clinton and their gangs.

Last week a teacher in N. C. had her students write a quote from the Islamic religion. People got upset, but the liberals (the left wing communists and right wing progressives) didn't come out screaming and say their usual about mixing state and religion. They don't believe in the word of Ala any more than they do Buddha, Christ or Moses, but they take up the cult of the terrorist like lambs to slaughter. So they have a double sided view in everything.

They believe in slavery. They still think the Democrat party is the party of slavery and corruption and do all they can to uphold that believe. They hate freedom of the press, speech. They believe in the criminal and not the victims and in creating unrest instead of trying to bring the country together. They know that it is wrong for slaves to be able to read and write just as the pigs in the Middle East do because education makes people realizes they are just as good if not better than those holding them in slavery. You think I am piling it on? Look at our education system, the crooked teachers unions like in Wisc. and Ca. the ending of teaching students to write in long hand and the stupid "polite" math teaching of that jerk that now runs the colleges in CA. If you don't think our education system is being corrupted by so called left wingers or right wing progressives go to one of your students classes and sit in for the day.

No they are not in love with Islam as they do not believe in any God, but they use it as the terrorists use it to further their stupid drive to ruin. They have double standards for everything. They don't believe that they must follow the same rules, laws, customs, common sense, that normal people do. Some how in their fog they believe that if they had been in the buildings on 911 because they kissed the boots and ass of the dictators and said "Oh we believe in everything you do and America is evil for wanting to free" that somehow they would not have been killed. So in their little minds they say they are for the radical cult of the Terrorists and that will allow them to be Masters when the world reenters the dark ages. Of course there is the good side to people like that. Who else could you get to buy the Brooklyn Bridge or a Bridge to nowhere, or a bullet train to no where like in California? You need stupid fools to be the village idiots. And what better fools than Americans who believe in Communism or Nazism?

 

[PoppingTom]

Generally speaking you're right. Still a stupid idea to let Syrian refugees in.

Still a stupid idea to think you owe Pakistanis and Iraqis so much more.

Caring has nothing to do with answering your stupid fuckin' question you seem obsessed with.

How do you know? You don't care.

How are all those Syrians doing in Germany

Better than your Pakistanis. So far, no Syrian did a shooting.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Still a stupid idea to think you owe Pakistanis and Iraqis so much more.

Then why do you have it? You're the only one talking about and obsessed with Pakistanis. Like a cat furiously chasing it's own tail....LOL

How do you know? You don't care.

Because the topic is Syrian refugees, not Pakistani refugees.

Better than your Pakistanis. So far, no Syrian did a shooting.

How does that make the US taking Syrians a good idea?

 

[PoppingTom]

Because the topic is Syrian refugees, not Pakistani refugees.

You won the 2015 Award of Stupidity.

Learn to read before you answer.









(You make me feel real superior )

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[BotanyBoy]

You won the 2015 Award of Stupidity.

Learn to read before you answer.

Try speaking English and I might.


Can you tell me why Pakistan makes Syrian refugees a good idea or not?

(You make me feel real superior )

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That's not me that's your inner Nazi crying to be let loose.

 

[PoppingTom]

Try speaking English and I might.


Can you tell me why Pakistan makes Syrian refugees a good idea or not?

Man, you can't even get the topic right, and you make assumptions out of the blue, I strongly doubt your question is what it reads.

You're just hypocrite as expected when it comes to terrorists and refugees. You can only talk shit when it comes to that topic.

You're too much fun to quit.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Man, you can't even get the topic right, and you make assumptions out of the blue, I strongly doubt your question is what it reads.

You're just hypocrite as expected when it comes to terrorists and refugees. You can only talk shit when it comes to that topic.

You're too much fun to quit.

Can you tell me why Pakistan makes Syrian refugees a good idea or not?

 

[JackLuis]

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[PoppingTom]

Seriously, JackLuis, what did you expect? The tread's topic is an utmost lie, I doubt it's even a question, the only good thing I can say about that thread is that it made renard_ruse answer posts, which is a huge step forward to a mature discussion style.

But are we talking about liberals? Or about people who can still use their head for thinking?
Are we talking about "falling in love" or about "acting human to people because we don't want to be as barbaric as the terrorists, we overcome that"?
And are we talking about Islam? Or about "Syrians, no matter what confession, because we're too much of cowards to kick the asses of Saudi-Arabia, Egypt, Pakistan or Iraq"?

And am I able to answer as a human being, or am I always "the German who stick his nose into American shit that is none of his fucking business"?

As long as these things been taken as a usual thing, we can be happy discussions here don't escalate busydizzy-style. Is the PB just the political garbage can of the GB? Or something serious?

 

[DeYaKen]

Once an hour or so on average in this huge country 300 million+,some caveman picks up a rock and kills another caveman. That's how you arrive at such a number (8,000+) Except they've advanced to the point wear the cavemen now use guns. You might also argue that many of the victims had some hand in their own demise, as this is often the case. Now you want to compare this state of affairs to the attack of innocents on 9/11 and compare the two. You are deranged. Cavemen have been killing each other for years. The weapon has changed but they are still doing it. Now if we want to protect ourselves from these Neanderhals, we put the bad ones in jail. We say don't do it again. If we know people are "evil-doers" we watch them and don't invite them into our country. Seems like common sense to me.

I congratulate you on making a sound case for gun control. Well done.

It still doesn't explain why you are not more frightened of your own cavemen than you are of the foreign ones. The statistics speak for themselves. In one Year your homegrown cavemen kill more Americans, in America, than foreign cavemen have since 1812. Why is it the foreigners you are frightened of? Even Botany Boy accepts that is irrational.

 

[DeYaKen]

Glad to see you've already worked out how a war goes in your head.....man you're REALLY on a roll with making shit up.

Of corse I know how a war goes, I'm a Brit, we've been in enough of them.

I'd go back for fun, but I don't care about whose sons and daughters die...they volunteered as adults to go kill and be killed for the USA.

This is what we see from you all the time. Fuck you Jack as long as I'm OK.
You seem to think that anybody fool enough to volunteer to protect you and yours deserves everything they get. For the first time I'm tempted to agree with you.

And the USA needs to fucking clear out the middle east and own it, or GTFO and let the EU handle it with their epic smugness.

For the first time, you are starting to make sense, but you seem to be labouring under a misapprehension. The EU never wanted to be involved in the middle east, we just went in to support our NATO Partner.

For the record:
George Bush declared a war on terror and asked for our help when he charged into Afganistan.
George Bush went into Kuwait to kick out Sad Man Hussain. We went in willingly because we always had a relationship with the country, dating back to the days of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company, Now known as BP
Dubya went back into Iraq to deal with the man who disrespected his daddy. He and Blair sold the people a story about WMDs which, of course, didn't exist.
When Assad used chemical weapons against his people Obama followed the tradition of interfering and got involved in Syria. He asked for British support. The PM wanted to support you but Parliament would not back him, so he resorted to asking your "oldest ally," the French.

So you see if America got out of the middle east we would have no need to be there.

You seem to think others should take responsibility for their actions, but not the USA.

Why apparently YOU are a psychaiatrist Mr.KnowItAll.....lol the arrogance of EuroTrash such as yourself is fucking astounding.

It's not misogyny it's a fact and it's not a need to assert my manhood you white knighting stain upon humanity.

So placing women below beasts of burden was not misogyny? Certainly looked like it.

Well then show your work, mathematically prove your extrapolations or you're just making shit up.

I gave you the start points, you should already know what they have done to your tourist industry. Not my fault if you couldn't work it out.

It's a fact that you can deal with terrorist more than one way.....you claim bending over and taking it up the ass from them is the only possible way to deal with it YOU offer up the evidence.

1: I didn't claim it was a fact that it was the only way. It was my opinion. However, it is an opinion backed up by the fact that no one has ever won a guerilla war (that's what terrorism is a part of) by any other means.
2: I did give you evidence of the war that we were engaged in with the IRA.

My evidence is the entire history of war.....you can't hurt them if you don't hit them and killing people gets shit done.

Different kind of war my friend. Terrorism is part of a guerilla war, where you strike then run away and hide. You wait your chance and strike again. There is no battlefield. You should know this. The US tried to fight such a war using military strength and bombing. You lost.

Albert Einstein defined stupidity as "repeatedly doing the same thing, expecting a different result."

You're proof along with most of the other kumbyah douche nozzles in the EU who think you can just ignore the problem away....LOL I think the US should let ISS at you mother fuckers so we can find out just how well kumbyah and hot coco for ISIS works.

Yet again you seem to think that the USA is protecting us from the terrorists. This is not the case. If anything, by constantly interfering in other countries business, you are making the situation worse. There would be no ISIS if Dubya had left Sad Man alone.

Here is hoping your gene pool get ISIS'ed this year!

The statistics show that I have a lot better chance of winning the lottery, even though I don't buy a ticket. Not really worth worrying about is it?

I find it very sad that you had nothing better to do on Christmas Day than to vent your spleen on this board. I hope the new year brings you more happiness and new interests. There are some nice free online history courses you could try. https://www.futurelearn.com/

They might even have one on world history.

 

[JackLuis]

Seriously, JackLuis, what did you expect? The tread's topic is an utmost lie, I doubt it's even a question, the only good thing I can say about that thread is that it made renard_ruse answer posts, which is a huge step forward to a mature discussion style.
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I am amused by this thread, in a perverted way. On one hand the RWNJ's blame everything on "Liberals" and the Lib's try to shout them down. The correct response to the OP should have been "Fuck Off and Die", end of thread, but no, people have to try to reason with the RWNJ's.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Of corse I know how a war goes, I'm a Brit

LMFAO

This is what we see from you all the time. Fuck you Jack as long as I'm OK.
You seem to think that anybody fool enough to volunteer to protect you and yours deserves everything they get. For the first time I'm tempted to agree with you.

There is no fuck you jack no matter how badly you keep trying to make it true.

The warrior class is meant to kill and die at the whims of their national/religious leaders, that has ALWAYS been their purpose, that's the job description. Has been for a long time.

So you see if America got out of the middle east we would have no need to be there.

Exactly! The religion of peace would never do anything to Europe, they are amazing people with open minds that embrace diversity!! It's the USA that's fuckin' EVIL! and causing all woes in the world!

Which is why I fully support us dumping that shit storm. 100% not fucking with any of it.

You seem to think others should take responsibility for their actions, but not the USA.

No I think the USA should quit taking responsibility because NOTHING the USA does will do anything other than invite ridicule and scorn, so we have no reason under the sun to put up with your shit.

So placing women below beasts of burden was not misogyny? Certainly looked like it.

I never placed women below beasts of burden. I placed the looks and smells of sun/desert/husband hammered women who live in the desert and rarely bathe above the beasts of burden...because it's true. People don't age well in shithole desert nations with shitty nutrition/HC/sanitation, and they smell even worse. That's not misogyny that's reality.

I can't because I'm just making shit up.

That's what I thought.

1: I didn't claim it was a fact that it was the only way. It was my opinion. However, it is an opinion backed up by the fact that no one has ever won a guerilla war (that's what terrorism is a part of) by any other means.
2: I did give you evidence of the war that we were engaged in with the IRA.

Different kind of war my friend. Terrorism is part of a guerilla war, where you strike then run away and hide. You wait your chance and strike again. There is no battlefield. You should know this. The US tried to fight such a war using military strength and bombing. You lost.

It's guerrilla....

Because we haven't tried. We've been trying to fight guerrilla wars with PC bullshit on TV talking about hearts and minds while giving our troops orders not to shoot at anyone in front of CNN until 1/2 their unit is been put through the grinder because we wouldn't want to offend soccer moms in the midwest or uppity Eurotrash.

You're inability to handle the IRA isn't evidence taking it up the ass is the only option. It's evidence that you and the US both have been total fucking pussies since TV showed up and started offending the masses with the reality of war. Before that we just killed mother fuckers until they were ALL dead or they gave up either from lack or people or resources.

Albert Einstein defined stupidity as "repeatedly doing the same thing, expecting a different result."

Yet we are still trying to win wars in a politically correct manner via hearts and minds kumbyah fuck fuck games. War just doesn't work that way....if you aren't killing bad juju AND everyone around him, you're doing it wrong.

Yet again you seem to think that the USA is protecting us from the terrorists. This is not the case. If anything, by constantly interfering in other countries business, you are making the situation worse. There would be no ISIS if Dubya had left Sad Man alone.

ISIS wouldn't be around and it would have been done a lot faster if we had done the whole war bit correctly.

The statistics show that I have a lot better chance of winning the lottery, even though I don't buy a ticket. Not really worth worrying about is it?

I find it very sad that you had nothing better to do on Christmas Day than to vent your spleen on this board. I hope the new year brings you more happiness and new interests. There are some nice free online history courses you could try. https://www.futurelearn.com/

They might even have one on world history.

I never said it was something to worry about. I'd just like to see the evil US GTFO of the middle east so we can watch ISIS diversify the fuckin' shit out of Europe with love and peace.

Why? It was just another Friday. I has fuck tons to do, I was working hours before the sun was up and I hit lit up at beer 30 just like most Fridays. I'm a godless heathen who takes the opportunity of Christmas to get some extra shit done and Chinese dinner with the local Jewish community.

Thanks for the well wishes!

 

[RUlookingup]

I congratulate you on making a sound case for gun control. Well done.

It still doesn't explain why you are not more frightened of your own cavemen than you are of the foreign ones. The statistics speak for themselves. In one Year your homegrown cavemen kill more Americans, in America, than foreign cavemen have since 1812. Why is it the foreigners you are frightened of? Even Botany Boy accepts that is irrational.

Thank you for placing words in my mouth as usual. It is the liberal thing to do. The left twists words better than a Coney Island Freak twists their body. Cavemen have always been around, if you take away their guns they find a bat or a rock, my point is we can't account for an angry man bent on killing his next of kin or ex-lover 24/7. We can attempt to make sure guns are in the hands of the people who've earned the right to carry. Sane people, non-criminals. As to extremists of any ilk, we need to be able to watch them. When they plan to take out hundreds or thousands in one shot, of absolute innocents, we need to be aware of this threat and take action. Not go hang out with Bear Gryllls and talk climate change. WTF is that?

 

[DeYaKen]

We can attempt to make sure guns are in the hands of the people who've earned the right to carry. Sane people, non-criminals. As to extremists of any ilk, we need to be able to watch them.

That sounds awfully like the control of guns to me, and I do agree with you. If you look back at my posts you will see that I think it is right to keep an eye on people you suspect. However, that is a long way short of excluding everyone of a particular religion.