Male sub thread

[ghosst_K&H]

This is why we male subs do not post often. All of a sudden a good thread is turned into a personal attack on male subs. We aren't hiding in any kind of woodwork. I personally do not hide, but when I do post and contribute my opinions and my ideas someone always without fail shoots them down. Ussually basing their reason on the fact that they are a Dom/me and no other reason.

rick,
i dont sweat what "other" Dominants say about my posts, frankly they may be Dom/mes in their world but not in mine.

i post my thoughts and feelings, accept positive, or negative feedback, and respect diffrent points of view, but ignore flames, because the flamer isn't worthy of my time.

you may be submissive, but you're still a person, and worthy of an opinion, just like the rest of us.

 

[Tom Bishop]

am I suppose to have so much fun being a sub

Being a bisexuale male who serves a younger lot younger Boss Is very exciting to me
I am not allowed to contact hiim I did once and even begged for him to use me Got nothing and had to wait even more .
We have talked a lot of are likes and dislikes When we talk it is in a public place just as two guys haveing coffee or a beer just like two friends talking sports.
I didn't hear from him in a while then I posted on lit he reads this stuff shortly after he contacted me (it Worked) The email he sent contained things we have talked about (he dose listen) I have told him I wanted to be his Whore . So he wants me to service a couple from out of state for a fee . Well I said I wanted to be his Whore . The Women wants me to dress in complete womens cloths and humileate her husband while she watches The cloths thing is something I told boss I didn't Think was nssacery Panttis and stockings Yes bra wigs dresses makeup there not really my thing But I told him I would do it . He set this up useing my scheduale which he had to work to find out It is over a week in advance That is something he knows excites me having to wait and think of what is going to happen for 8 days and nights .
The Women wants piss play but I am not sure which way . on her in her on me in me what MY mind just keeps wondering I have held Bosses cock while he pissed have licked drops off it but that has been it so now I have all this time to wonder
Boss has never used my ass He says I have to earn that What if they want to what do I do he wont tell me
He had me go to his house last night to practice being a pretend female slut bra wig garter stockings heels (lucky for me they were low )dress the whole nine yards He had his boyfriend check on me He made me put make up on too What a desaster She will have to put it on me when Its time Bosses Friend even had me talk as a sex Kitten as he called it .
before he left he told me To take off cloths fold and take with me for monday when I am to entertain the couple ( now I have to keep them hidden)he told me not to cum till I was with them and gave me the address and time A really run down by the hour Motel After I cleaned up and left Bosses house He called me and said His friend said I did good and that he would see me after My whoreing out as he called it He also told me to write this hear .
Well I feel like a little kid waiting for christmas nervous excited just really looking forward to it and dreading it at the same time
I just love my new role in life and want more
BJ Bishop

 

[wolf2002]

i dont sweat what "other" Dominants say about my posts, frankly they may be Dom/mes in their world but not in mine.

Interesting point of view, but I disagree. To me, a Domme is a Domme... which doesn;t mean I would submit to anyone but my own Domina...

 

[wantsmore]

I have never tried being a sub, would like too.

I would like to be introduced to being a sub. I don't know how to go about doing it. If anyone has any suggestions I would be greatly appreciative. I wouldn't also mind meeting someone from lit, but it has been my experience that not many tend to contact. I guess maybe I haven't been assertive enough, even though I love sex.

 

[ghosst_K&H]

Interesting point of view, but I disagree. To me, a Domme is a Domme... which doesn;t mean I would submit to anyone but my own Domina...

just because they claim the title Dom/me dosen't make them Dominant. i dont know about you but theres a huge difference between real lifestyle Dom/me's, pro Dom/me's and the wanna be's, and internet Dom/mes, if you feel they all deserve respect, thats great, but they have to earn my respect.

 

[Satin Kitty 69]

just because they claim the title Dom/me dosen't make them Dominant. i dont know about you but theres a huge difference between real lifestyle Dom/me's, pro Dom/me's and the wanna be's, and internet Dom/mes, if you feel they all deserve respect, thats great, but they have to earn my respect.

Might you elaborate for us still learning, about what "real lifestyle Dom/me's" and "pro Dom/me's" are in comparison to the other two types.

 

[Netzach]

I'm totally down with the idea that a Top/Domme/Person/or anyone for that matter is entitled to as much respect as they earn, that's it. If anyone gets in M's or G's face about how they "should be behaving" they are immediately and without invite treading on MY turf and in MY face. And M and G have every right, and are loudly encouraged, to look out for their own autonomy in fetish society at large.

I don't care much for "instant respect in a can" because I'm dominant. If someone thinks I'm a schmuck because this is the net and my emphases might not come across in writing, or because I come across kind of point blank (I'm just like that) I can try to explain what I did mean and they can either buy that or not, and I can either be judged a schmuck or cool or ok or on something, it's all fine. If they think good things about me, let it be because there are good things to be thought, NOT because I look good in latex.

As people I think we have the right to evaluate one another, and I certainly think that submissive people retain that right as much as anyone else.

 

[Megafurvert]

ROCK ON NET!!!!!! i'm a writer/poet by hobby and i don't think i could have sid that anymore consciecely then you just did!!! oh yeah..... Good morning M'lady!!! >^,^<

 

[ghosst_K&H]

Might you elaborate for us still learning, about what "real lifestyle Dom/me's" and "pro Dom/me's" are in comparison to the other two types.

Lifestyle Dom/me, one who either
1) is in a 24/7 D/s or BSDM relationship with a real person and has hands on experience
2) or Top's play partners in real life, may not be in a 24/7 relationship, but likes to "scene"

Pro Dom/me, one who is paid to cater to clients fetishes, but does not always live the 24/7 lifestyle

Wanna be Dom/me, someone likes the idea of being Dominant, and want a D/s or BSDM relationship, but when the "cards are on the table" folds their hand

Internet Dom/me, usually a horny net geek (hng) looking for cyber thrills, and who really knows nothing about a real life D/s or BSDM relationship, one who hangs around chat rooms, and collars submissives on a whim, one who fantasizes about Dominating a person, and does so in cyberspace, but not in real life


i need to say that i don't have a problem with Pro Dom/me's, they really are Dominant, and provide happiness to people who otherwize would never have their fantasys realized

i also need to say that i know some of you here are in online D/s relationships, theres nothing wrong with this either, and the difference between Y/you and the hng is, Y/you take the time to get to know your s/o, maybe have plans of making it a r/l relatonship, and most important, consider Y/yourself in a real relationship, and dont turn the persona off as soon as you log off your computer


these are my humble opinions, and not those of my Dommes's

 

[yessmiss]

Hi!

This is an attempt to reply to many of the later posts at once, especially those who asked for input from male subs.

Yes, i'm male, if this wasn't the net i wouldn't have to tell you that. What i mean is that i am a male who happens to have a submissive streak towards women. i am a pretty strongwilled and independent man, but in a relationship i have found that my natural role is yeilding, pleasing and serving. i didn't indulge in fantasies of having a Domme control me as an extension of my sexual cravings; rather in normal (vanilla) relations i found out that it suited my personality to accept this "role". Well, not role, since it is not a play, more like position in the hierararchy of decisionmaking. it was not easy comming to terms with this side of myself, as i felt intimidated and undervalued if i couldn't have an equal saying in common decisions, and i had to defend and protect myself against being the subject of someone else's will. i had a few affairs with women of a submissive nature, but i couldn't stand being looked to for taking complete control, and they never lasted very long. (but, i do find submissive girls very sweet and sexy, and i even enjoy sexual role-play with them )

i have never had a relationship with a woman who claimed to be a Domme or dominant, but the truth is that the women i am attracted to all are strong, powerful, selfassured, sensuous and in control. For me it doesn't have to be an expressed D/s affair, but the makeup of our personalities are such, that this is the way our interaction is. It goes beyond sexplay... and scenes... all these terms make it sound like it is just makebeleive = role, play, scene, like a theater, for me it is very real and i have been trying to steer clear of it all my life, as i didn't want to accept the image of myself as "under" anyone, but it is real, it is the real me, and it has been such a relief to accept it.

i think this is a crucial point, as Satin Kitty pointed out, it is all about trust. i didn't dare trust anyone with being in control of parts of my life and the relationship as a whole, that is why i so feared of submitting. i have, since i came to accept this fact of myself, had to sometimes force myself to try trust. Some times i have been very hurt (emotionally), but many times my trust have grown. And i don't just mean trust for that specific person, but MY ability to trust, a quality within ME, as opposed to a quantity as the result of interaction.

i hope you've had patience to bear with me through this post as it came to be more lenghty than i meant, and forgive my if i have repeated myself.

i also would like to agree (again) with Satin Kitty about words having the power to stir up disruptive emotions, and i am sad to see that there are some unsensitive people around this, otherwise friendly and pleasant place.

i'm glad you liked the OD.com site, Kitty, a home away from home for me, permeated with respect and compassion.

Thanks for listening,

~yesspleasemiss

 

[Netzach]

furvert....thanks!

ghost....

not all prodommes are dominant. Some of the best are actually subs and a lot switch or have switched. Flexibility in that gig is golden. I just know.

yesmiss, I like your post. It reminds me of the difference between a D/s relationship in my preferred flavor and a play relationship, in my experience.

The D/s ongoing relationship isn't based only on the D/s. The D/s is more often than not subconscious, and unspoken, and just is an outward expression of me being me and my fiance being himself. Where the chips fall is that I more often than not determine the direction of things and he more often than not does what I suggest or goes out of his way to make me happy, more so than many other partners might. We try to keep this happy rather than exploitative, and there it is, Domme and sub, no rules lists, punishments, or rituals, just people being what they are.

 

[ghosst_K&H]

ghost....

not all prodommes are dominant. Some of the best are actually subs and a lot switch or have switched. Flexibility in that gig is golden. I just know.

i stand corrected, i didn't know this, but my meaning was in a professional atmosphere, or at work if you will

 

[Satin Kitty 69]

Words, and images.

If they think good things about me, let it be because there are good things to be thought, NOT because I look good in latex.

Although this wasn't the focus of your post, I wanted to note my agreement with this statement.

Personally, I have decided not to post any pictures of myself on Lit, mainly because when someone says that they find me interesting I want to know that it is because of something I wrote. Lit is a great place in the sense that you can share your mind and your ideas without being first judged on appearance.

Although having an identity built solely on words is vulnerable to misinterpretation & can seem shallow no matter the depth of the words.

 

[Satin Kitty 69]

The D/s ongoing relationship isn't based only on the D/s. The D/s is more often than not subconscious, and unspoken, and just is an outward expression of me being me and my fiance being himself. Where the chips fall is that I more often than not determine the direction of things and he more often than not does what I suggest or goes out of his way to make me happy, more so than many other partners might. We try to keep this happy rather than exploitative, and there it is, Domme and sub, no rules lists, punishments, or rituals, just people being what they are.

My fiance and I are similar in a sense, in our daily lives we tend to trust each other completely, and both may follow the other's lead. But on almost all occasions when we play I lead, tease and explore his interests and boudaries. The more I lead the more he enjoys, and often times will call me Mistress. I love to pleasure him beyond the point where he would normally stop for release, bringing him to new heights.

I have also chatted, and talked to a few guys, where I have taken the lead. In all cases I slowly lead them to explore what every desires and fantasies that they may have never shared with anyone else.

My pleasure comes from theirs, and for me there is no greater excitement then when I have guided them to pleasure beyond what they had imagined.

I'm not sure what I am, but part of me knows...to my love I am his partner, his Mistress, his lover, and soon to be his wife...to the other guys I am a friend who wishes them confidence in the belief that their desires are good, and much pleasure.

 

[Dick Cheyney]

Thanks...

Great idea for a thread. We sub males can be conspicously quiet. I am naturally sub, but will switch when the mood prevails.

Of course, to be a pnyboy or transformed waitress for the right domme overshadows all other lusts and kinks.

 

[scooterbum]

male sub thread

for me, I entered into a "normal relationship" with a wonderful woman and at some point in our relationship we "accent WE" discovered that the real thrill was my submission.

I am a early 40's guy, professional and like to play with big toys... cranes and the like and if someone called me a sissy in the street i probably would put a boot up his ass.

On the other hand there is few things I like better that curling up on the floor next to mistress with my collar on when she is sitting in the chair and tending to her needs, whether it be a cola, snack or just a tug on the collar or my hair to remind me who is in charge.

I love, respect and am in awe of my mistress and consider her by far the smarter member of the family.

 

[MissTaken]

Thank you, scooter, darling.



I am afraid your view is a bit biased, though!


Now, for all,


how far are you really willing to go with your Domme?
What are your hard limits?

Have you engaged in activities that you really didn't enjoy, but continued?

Why or why not?

 

[SweetDommes]

Thank you, scooter, darling.



I am afraid your view is a bit biased, though!

Ok, you too are just too freaking cute It's very nice to see

 

[MissTaken]

Ok, you too are just too freaking cute It's very nice to see

Ya, friends say the same thing and I always respond that we are "cute" cause we are old and in love.



And I am very proud of scooter as he has reached that pinnacle wherein he submits solely for my pleasure and has engaged in things he didn't particularly enjoy.

How cool is that?

 

[PinkOrchid]

 

[SweetDommes]

And I am very proud of scooter as he has reached that pinnacle wherein he submits solely for my pleasure and has engaged in things he didn't particularly enjoy.

How cool is that?

It's very cool ... We haven't been able to do much with our boy just yet, him being newly ours and being on the road so much, but he has a list of things that he isn't interested in doing but will do for us if we want him to ... so I don't see it being a problem of him refusing to do much that we would want him to do.

 

[lil'Ethan]

Shy guys...

When I give myself totally to someone, I feel a sense of freedom. The freedom from responsibility.... the freedom from having to make decisions. It's simplicity... all the background noise in my head disappears. I feel at peace. In a world of infinite possibilities, it's sometimes nice when there's clearly defined parameters: I do what she says. Maybe it's childlike and selfish, but it's a nice escape sometimes. Plus, I have a strong desire to please. When I can make someone happy, I feel happy. When I'm being submissive, I can just concentrate on being the best slave I can be. Putting anothers needs before my own makes me feel fulfilled.

It's funny though, in my personal life, I don't back down... I never submit. If someone does me wrong, I let them know. If a drunk frat dude picks a fight at a bar, I'm always game. Maybe I'm over-compensating for my true subbie-ness, or maybe I just love to scrap. Who knows...

Peace,
lil'Ethan

ps... pm me ya'll, I'd love to chat.

 

[Megafurvert]

Hello A/all,

i've been reading E/everyones post since the last time i gave my input and i have a feeling that this is going to be a LONG post!!! first off..... yesmiss, i think that you've a have stroke a VERY fimilair cord!!! i'm a natural sub but i had a bit a journey to find out just how submissive i was.... my first real love was also my first Mistress..... let's just say that from the time i was legal i was being trained(i just didn't know it at the time!!). it took me six months before i finally realized just what Miss Judy was doing and by that time i was having far too much fun and was too far in love to resist or redirect the direction she had taken me(and frankly, even if i could have..... well its easier to say "like hell i was going to stop the woman!!! ) i unfortunately lost her in a car accident nearly two years ago..... i never thought i would find someone i love even more but i am VERY happy to say that i am the proud porperty of NYCgirl(i love M'lady!! )

Netzach.... i, just like you, have a every intimate knowledge of the difference between being a pro dom and a regular dom i am a sub and i will always be a sub BUT i have a good amount of experience "fulfilling" fantasies! i am no longer in the business as i have an owner now(and i'm very happy that you claimed me M'lady[NYCgirl])

MissTaken...... me and M'lady live ,for right now, rather far away from each other.... but She has, through a patient process (and patience is not her strong suit) shown me the pleasures of anal play!!! she enjoys both recieving and giving pleasure through anal play and i have come to enjoy it just as much!! i very quickly finding that beyond OUR hard limits there is VERY little that i will not do for M'lady!!

 

[NYCgirl26]

He is right you know....patients is not my strong suit. And I love him very much

 

[SweetDommes]

And I love him very much

That's very good to know NYC ... we like knowing that former potentials have found Someone who makes them happy and cares for them as much as we would have. Congradulations to you as well, and both of you take good care of each other.