The Loving Wives Trolls!

[DukeofPaducah]

That depends on two factors for me; is she socially desired hotwife, or a hotwife I actually like, and if the fiancee will say have fun.

She can offer nothing that some chap-stick and a wide spectrum antibiotic won’t remedy.
Keep your arms and legs inside the carriage at all times and have fun!

 

[Inkent]

..........I'm here because it's fun to write. ..............

Those seven words sum it up for me. Period

 

[lovecraft68]

Ah, LW where every woman is evil and every man a virtuous hero.

Male fantasy for the most insecure reader base in existence.

Want to see some actual men? Go read or write in fetish where the guys there can admit and embrace their kinks and not whine like babies.

I can't wait until I drop my next one in the fall. I'll gladly accept a sub three score to get under that much skin.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

I find frailty a fascinating aspect of humanity. To antagonize vulnerability reveals a fascinating aspect of yours

 

[lovecraft68]

I find frailty a fascinating aspect of humanity. To antagonize vulnerability reveals a fascinating aspect of yours

Bullying, hate spewing and misogyny are not vulnerabilities, they are aggression emanating from people behind the keyboard who are so cowardly they can't even create a handle.

Pissing them off is giving them a taste of their own medicine. But aside from that, my stories are legit stories, they just fall flat in man baby nation. I write women who are in control of their sexuality and their marriage, the antithesis of what the LW desperate to please authors do.

They hate women, I hate that kind of man, difference is, I will say it under a name here, and put my stories and comments up for abuse. They ghost forums and attack under anon.

The difference says it all.

 

[NoTalentHack]

Ah, LW where every woman is evil and every man a virtuous hero.

Male fantasy for the most insecure reader base in existence.

Want to see some actual men? Go read or write in fetish where the guys there can admit and embrace their kinks and not whine like babies.

I can't wait until I drop my next one in the fall. I'll gladly accept a sub three score to get under that much skin.

Ah, I see we've reached the point in the discussion when you blatantly ignore everything said previously in a blind rage, then insult everyone involved.

Maybe one of these days you'll be willing to admit you're wrong about provably false things in a public forum, but I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

I misunderstood your intent, señor.. Crack on.
I consider the BTB devotee to be a wounded warrior in the matrimonial arena;
looking to salve long suffered wounds and vicariously seeking retribution for perceived injustice.
One of my all-time favorite authors there is AmyYum

 

[Lifestyle66]

Ah, I see we've reached the point in the discussion when you blatantly ignore everything said previously in a blind rage, then insult everyone involved.

Maybe one of these days you'll be willing to admit you're wrong about provably false things in a public forum, but I wouldn't bet on it.

No. LC68 only reads that which reinforces LC68's beliefs!

LC68 said they wouldn't read my latest story ("Aftermath", link below), because they passed judgement on it here in the forum as a story glorifying rape. That's the same thing Gamblinluck and other commenters do when they troll! They "skim" the story and come to their own conclusions, without the story details getting in the way of their beliefs.

 

[Andrew1968]

I'm glad that this Loving Wives category exists and what happens there can still continue to cause drama, controversy and fights. I hope it continues. To hell with the fucking scores. Fight it out. And yep, there's nothing tastier than a naughty lil hot wife. And Lovecraft, keep putting your views strongly. Your strongly stated views have at least one fan (and I'm sure others as well)

 

[Lifestyle66]

Here are comments as examples from the trolls:
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by Anonymous user on 06/28/2024

Read the prologue
That was enough!!
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by Anonymous user on 06/28/2024

...[lengthy post including my Author's Notes]
<><>
I really couldn't read much more, skipped to the end, glad he had someone new, disappointed that he was only as happy "as [he could] be.
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Gamblnluck posted here on Jul 5th:

Okay, did not read the story, but force and drugs are often used as an acceptable reason the husband might accept it. But not if she was 'forced' the first time and then turned rabid slut for everybody and the husband enjoys her new role.
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And there are many other comments in other stories or posts here in the forums where they'll say "I read the title and that was enough..."

If the title says "Hotwife Does This...", they just open the story, click to the end, 1-bomb it and leave a "husband's a cuck and she's a whore" comment. Anyone who "skims" a story is not reading it. They are just like the trolls missing the details as written by the author, but still proclaiming their expertise to everyone else with their opinion of the story.

They make up their own details in their own narrow minds and try to convince others of their superiority.

 

[djrip]

Here are comments as examples from the trolls:
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by Anonymous user on 06/28/2024

Read the prologue
That was enough!!
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by Anonymous user on 06/28/2024

...[lengthy post including my Author's Notes]
<><>
I really couldn't read much more, skipped to the end, glad he had someone new, disappointed that he was only as happy "as [he could] be.
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Gamblnluck posted here on Jul 5th:

Okay, did not read the story, but force and drugs are often used as an acceptable reason the husband might accept it. But not if she was 'forced' the first time and then turned rabid slut for everybody and the husband enjoys her new role.
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And there are many other comments in other stories or posts here in the forums where they'll say "I read the title and that was enough..."

If the title says "Hotwife Does This...", they just open the story, click to the end, 1-bomb it and leave a "husband's a cuck and she's a whore" comment. Anyone who "skims" a story is not reading it. They are just like the trolls missing the details as written by the author, but still proclaiming their expertise to everyone else with their opinion of the story.

They make up their own details in their own narrow minds and try to convince others of their superiority.

Commenting on a story you didn't read is so bizarre.

 

[Gamblnluck]

How long did that take you? Or do you have it on hand?

I've never seen someone spend so much time and effort defending a free story category, let alone one that just about everyone except you, knows is full of the most rancid trolls on the internet.

No the rest of us get tired getting screamed at how we are the trolls who do not lke those loser stories. So we started rarely even commenting here. Not talent hack is right on the money.
You guys who write a story that gets poor ratings over and over again need to look at why. Was it Einstein or somebody else who said it was insanity to do the same thing over and over and expect different results? A few of us told you how to do it. You refuse to accept it and call us the trolls. The formula is relatively simple.
1. create a MC who you can relate to. You might not like him but you can relate because of how the author constructed him.
2. create a problem, a dilemma, for lack of a better word, some angst.
3. Let the MC get out of his problem. that can mean BTB or reconciliation. But it has to be Plausible and logical. It has to be a justifiable resolution.
The way you present it determines if you get a 4 or much higher.

 

[Gamblnluck]

Here are comments as examples from the trolls:
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by Anonymous user on 06/28/2024

Read the prologue
That was enough!!
********************************************
by Anonymous user on 06/28/2024

...[lengthy post including my Author's Notes]
<><>
I really couldn't read much more, skipped to the end, glad he had someone new, disappointed that he was only as happy "as [he could] be.
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If you have not hook to keep the reader interested, you lost them. If your prologue turns them off, don't write one. Nobody is going to read a story they think they. And don't give that line they can just move on. Many won't if they think you are wasting space.
I get those same comments on my stories that are high in the 4 ratings. Big deal. I truck on and write. When I think of a good story to tell , I write it and post it. Yeah, I do the best I can at the time. I don't piss in the face of my readers and tell them to drink up and like or move on.

 

[Lifestyle66]

If you have not hook to keep the reader interested, you lost them. If your prologue turns them off, don't write one. Nobody is going to read a story they think they. And don't give that line they can just move on. Many won't if they think you are wasting space.
I get those same comments on my stories that are high in the 4 ratings. Big deal. I truck on and write. When I think of a good story to tell , I write it and post it. Yeah, I do the best I can at the time. I don't piss in the face of my readers and tell them to drink up and like or move on.

But you DO piss in the face of your reader ... With every shitty comment you write after NOT really reading the story! If the prologue doesn't grab you, move along to the next story. But you insist on pretending to be the expert.

 

[Lifestyle66]

No the rest of us get tired getting screamed at how we are the trolls who do not lke those loser stories. So we started rarely even commenting here. Not talent hack is right on the money.
You guys who write a story that gets poor ratings over and over again need to look at why. Was it Einstein or somebody else who said it was insanity to do the same thing over and over and expect different results? A few of us told you how to do it. You refuse to accept it and call us the trolls. The formula is relatively simple.
1. create a MC who you can relate to. You might not like him but you can relate because of how the author constructed him.
2. create a problem, a dilemma, for lack of a better word, some angst.
3. Let the MC get out of his problem. that can mean BTB or reconciliation. But it has to be Plausible and logical. It has to be a justifiable resolution.
The way you present it determines if you get a 4 or much higher.

Some readers can only read stories where they find a character to relate to themselves. They can only appreciate a story about themselves and trash all others.

But how many intolerant, judgmental bigots can really appreciate a story about an intolerant, judgmental bigot? So I never expect a 4 or 5 rating from such readers. They identify themselves by their comments, which is even better.

 

[lovecraft68]

No the rest of us get tired getting screamed at how we are the trolls who do not lke those loser stories. So we started rarely even commenting here. Not talent hack is right on the money.
You guys who write a story that gets poor ratings over and over again need to look at why. Was it Einstein or somebody else who said it was insanity to do the same thing over and over and expect different results? A few of us told you how to do it. You refuse to accept it and call us the trolls. The formula is relatively simple.
1. create a MC who you can relate to. You might not like him but you can relate because of how the author constructed him.
2. create a problem, a dilemma, for lack of a better word, some angst.
3. Let the MC get out of his problem. that can mean BTB or reconciliation. But it has to be Plausible and logical. It has to be a justifiable resolution.
The way you present it determines if you get a 4 or much higher.

You agree with NTH? Wow that's....not surprising.

I'll keep this simple, some of us write the story we want to write and we put it WHERE IT BELONGS ACCORDING TO THE SITES CATEGORY DESCRIPTION-and what happens there happens.

Unlike you who kowtow to every faction of weak-minded male in that category, others are true to their vision and aren't so concerned with score that we sell out to trolls.

Actual writers will not be bullied out of a category by people like you who are so full of yourselves you believe you have the right to rewrite someone else's story because you didn't like their ending because "It wasn't right."

There is nothing I can think of that is shows such an obsession with making sure women are portrayed as nasty and men all innocent heroic victims then that.

Keep those scores you beg and grovel for. I'll take the trolling with a smirk because I have the spine to walk into those waters and say "here it is, have fun."

Because to an actual writer and not a pandering poser, those few comments that will say "Hey, good story even if I didn't care for it" are what the actual craft is about, and they're worth a lot more than "Yeah, you showed that bitch."

You're a sad lot is all I can say.

Like I said before, I have my differences with @Lifestyle66 but at least he writes whatever he chooses to and deals with it.

 

[NoTalentHack]

You agree with NTH? Wow that's....not surprising.

I'll keep this simple, some of us write the story we want to write and we put it WHERE IT BELONGS ACCORDING TO THE SITES CATEGORY DESCRIPTION-and what happens there happens.

Unlike you who kowtow to every faction of weak-minded male in that category, others are true to their vision and aren't so concerned with score that we sell out to trolls.

Actual writers will not be bullied out of a category by people like you who are so full of yourselves you believe you have the right to rewrite someone else's story because you didn't like their ending because "It wasn't right."

There is nothing I can think of that is shows such an obsession with making sure women are portrayed as nasty and men all innocent heroic victims then that.

Keep those scores you beg and grovel for. I'll take the trolling with a smirk because I have the spine to walk into those waters and say "here it is, have fun."

Because to an actual writer and not a pandering poser, those few comments that will say "Hey, good story even if I didn't care for it" are what the actual craft is about, and they're worth a lot more than "Yeah, you showed that bitch."

You're a sad lot is all I can say.

Like I said before, I have my differences with @Lifestyle66 but at least he writes whatever he chooses to and deals with it.

...

What?

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought we were just posting strawmen now.

 

[lovecraft68]

About the response I'd expect.

The telling thing about all conversations regarding LW is in the market? The same stories that get destroyed here sell very well, and the reviews are positive.

Just like on porn sites cuck vids-even humiliating ones-get positive votes and comments on them.

Difference? People have to set up accounts and have some accountability for whatever they say.

Only here where anonymous is allowed do these stories get hate.

Guess its all about the class of the reader, isn't it?

I'll take the cash over appealing to dregs.

 

[NoTalentHack]

About the response I'd expect.

The telling thing about all conversations regarding LW is in the market? The same stories that get destroyed here sell very well, and the reviews are positive.

Just like on porn sites cuck vids-even humiliating ones-get positive votes and comments on them.

Difference? People have to set up accounts and have some accountability for whatever they say.

Only here where anonymous is allowed do these stories get hate.

Guess its all about the class of the reader, isn't it?

I'll take the cash over appealing to dregs.

I love how you went on a tirade about only obeying your muse and telling the stories you want to write, then turned around and said how happy you are to sell out.

Pro-tip: Try to pick ONE hill to die on.

 

[OverconfidentSarcasm]

Difference? People have to set up accounts and have some accountability for whatever they say.

Only here where anonymous is allowed do these stories get hate.

Guess its all about the class of the reader, isn't it?

I'll take the cash over appealing to dregs.

Eh... no?

The difference between stores and Literotica is that people need to PAY for cuckold stories in stores, and, as I think we established some months ago in a similar discussion, it would be a whole new level of commitment if people were to buy cuckolding stories just to then one-bomb them. So, of course those stories have positive ratings, since barely any store allows you to rate something you didn't buy beforehand, meaning the only ones who were able to rate the cuckold stories are the ones who bought the cuckold stories.

And, just like those months ago, I quickly visited Pornhub and searched for a few free cuckolding vids. The comments underneath those videos, if there were any at all, were from people who enjoyed imagining themselves as the bull. Which, honestly, is hard to do when the cuckold-stories in LW are mostly written from the perspective of the cuckold or hotwife. So, I'm not entirely sure a comparison here is even possible.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I am saving it for a special occasion. I’ll open a new box of Grappo this weekend and read it. You’ll be hearing from me.

I just read your comment:
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26thNC about 3 hours ago
The ass to mouth fetish? I can’t go for that in any context. There is a good story hiding in here, if you have the patience to find it. What I got out of it was the sad fact that a damaged woman destroyed a decent man. The ending was a indication that he was, in the end, as damaged as his ex wife.
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Thanks.
The whole story is a caricature. I used extremes in both characters. She the perfect loving wife, monogamous, one-&-only, married woman, never having or desiring any other sex with anyone else, always orgasming in their missionary position. He's the monogamous and loving husband, worried about his wife and doting on her after she was raped.

The ass-to-mouth fetish is also a caricature, showing the most extreme change which was forced on her.

But I must disagree with your take on the ending. SHE didn't destroy a decent man.

She did nothing more than finally recognize that he couldn't handle what they made of her, and that she could never again be her old self that he wanted. All she did was leave, and AGAIN the caricature extreme, she took NOTHING from him in the divorce, merely enough for six months to start in a new apartment (after all, she was a stay-at-home-mom) until she could find her own job. She even shouted at him when he wondered if she'd try finding a lover, "I CAN'T cheat on you!"

I tried to appease every criticism I expected which might come from the nay-sayers.

Still, you all read into the stories that which you want. (Or in some cases, SKIM over the details and make up your own story to criticize.)

EDIT: I do agree that in the end, he was as damaged. But I feel that he had always been that way, and she was the one who supported him, ... until she couldn't.


I do have a revised version of this same story, with far more details and a better character sketch of the wife (now over 17K words), which should publish next week.

 

[DukeofPaducah]

I just read your comment:
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26thNC about 3 hours ago
The ass to mouth fetish? I can’t go for that in any context. There is a good story hiding in here, if you have the patience to find it. What I got out of it was the sad fact that a damaged woman destroyed a decent man. The ending was a indication that he was, in the end, as damaged as his ex wife.
********************************

Thanks.
The whole story is a caricature. I used extremes in both characters. She the perfect loving wife, monogamous, one-&-only, married woman, never having or desiring any other sex with anyone else, always orgasming in their missionary position. He's the monogamous and loving husband, worried about his wife and doting on her after she was raped.

The ass-to-mouth fetish is also a caricature, showing the most extreme change which was forced on her.

But I must disagree with your take on the ending. SHE didn't destroy a decent man.

She did nothing more than finally recognize that he couldn't handle what they made of her, and that she could never again be her old self that he wanted. All she did was leave, and AGAIN the caricature extreme, she took NOTHING from him in the divorce, merely enough for six months to start in a new apartment (after all, she was a stay-at-home-mom) until she could find her own job. She even shouted at him when he wondered if she'd try finding a lover, "I CAN'T cheat on you!"

I tried to appease every criticism I expected which might come from the nay-sayers.

Still, you all read into the stories that which you want. (Or in some cases, SKIM over the details and make up your own story to criticize.)

EDIT: I do agree that in the end, he was as damaged. But I feel that he had always been that way, and she was the one who supported him, ... until she couldn't.


I do have a revised version of this same story, with far more details and a better character sketch of the wife (now over 17K words), which should publish next week.

I read this story. I liked it very much

 

[Lifestyle66]

I read this story. I liked it very much

Thanks.

I read your comment, too.

I didn't want to write a BTB story, where the other men (even rapists) were violently dealt with (you were very imaginative!) But I did want to show some retribution toward them, which is why I had them sentenced to 20-years in prison. Hopefully the other inmates would give them a taste of their own. And I felt for the wife, with her feelings that she didn't get her own justice, even with that sentence.

This version of the story was mainly focused on the husband and his inability to deal with the changes needed to save her, changes which he MIGHT have accommodated, if he were strong enough!

 

[DukeofPaducah]

Thanks.

I read your comment, too.

I didn't want to write a BTB story, where the other men (even rapists) were violently dealt with (you were very imaginative!) But I did want to show some retribution toward them, which is why I had them sentenced to 20-years in prison. Hopefully the other inmates would give them a taste of their own. And I felt for the wife, with her feelings that she didn't get her own justice, even with that sentence.

This version of the story was mainly focused on the husband and his inability to deal with the changes needed to save her, changes which he MIGHT have accommodated, if he were strong enough!

I would have tried giving her a Dirty Sanchez for old time sake at least

 

[26thNC]

I just read your comment:
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26thNC about 3 hours ago
The ass to mouth fetish? I can’t go for that in any context. There is a good story hiding in here, if you have the patience to find it. What I got out of it was the sad fact that a damaged woman destroyed a decent man. The ending was a indication that he was, in the end, as damaged as his ex wife.
********************************

Thanks.
The whole story is a caricature. I used extremes in both characters. She the perfect loving wife, monogamous, one-&-only, married woman, never having or desiring any other sex with anyone else, always orgasming in their missionary position. He's the monogamous and loving husband, worried about his wife and doting on her after she was raped.

The ass-to-mouth fetish is also a caricature, showing the most extreme change which was forced on her.

But I must disagree with your take on the ending. SHE didn't destroy a decent man.

She did nothing more than finally recognize that he couldn't handle what they made of her, and that she could never again be her old self that he wanted. All she did was leave, and AGAIN the caricature extreme, she took NOTHING from him in the divorce, merely enough for six months to start in a new apartment (after all, she was a stay-at-home-mom) until she could find her own job. She even shouted at him when he wondered if she'd try finding a lover, "I CAN'T cheat on you!"

I tried to appease every criticism I expected which might come from the nay-sayers.

Still, you all read into the stories that which you want. (Or in some cases, SKIM over the details and make up your own story to criticize.)

EDIT: I do agree that in the end, he was as damaged. But I feel that he had always been that way, and she was the one who supported him, ... until she couldn't.


I do have a revised version of this same story, with far more details and a better character sketch of the wife (now over 17K words), which should publish next week.

I appreciate your explanation of your intent with your story. When comparing it to LW’s usual daily glut of poorly written cuck stories, it wasn’t outrageous enough to be a caricature. I suppose you were surprised I actually liked it. Waiting for your next one, somehow I’m almost starting to like you.