Was Hitler A Socialist? Of Course, He Was

[ll74]

Come back when you've actually educated yourself on the subject.

You're wrong. Your bias is not an educated perspective.

 

[ll74]

This is exactly the point I was going to make. Fascism is not what happens when you take right-wing policies and push them to the extreme. Fascism contains within it several specific assertions about the world and policy prescriptions that don’t align neatly into the political spectrum. And fascism is dead, dead, dead, though that doesn’t stop some people from invoking it as an existential threat.

Fascism isn't dead. Fascism exists in multiple places in the world and it does because people fail to block the consolidation of power to any one entity. Having a weak governmental branch or allowing other branches of government to circumvent checks and balances.....etc..etc.

 

[stxjimmy]

Come back when you've actually educated yourself on the subject.

Like you have? What is your source for hitler considering himself a socialist?

He must have hid it very well as he killed so many socialists.

 

[TomTeacher19]

Hitler was a plumber.

What? You clearly have no idea of the difference between "socialism" and "dictatorship" so why would anyone assume you know what a plumber is either. Clearly you just throw around words with zero idea what any of them means.

 

[Rightguide]

Like you have? What is your source for hitler considering himself a socialist?

He must have hid it very well as he killed so many socialists.

The quotes I assembled and posted as well as others. Read them in post #1.

 

[stxjimmy]

Come back when you've actually educated yourself on the subject.

This is a quote from your own post:

“ Hitler on Marxism and Socialism
(Editor’s Note: StoppingSocialism.com does not agree with Hitler’s description of socialism, communism, and Marxism below. He deliberately misled people about the meaning of these terms for political reasons.)

“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national.” – 1923, Interview with George Sylvester Viereck.”

Did you forget to read before posting?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

The quotes I assembled and posted as well as others. Read them in post #1.

lol, again your own quotes shoot own what you claim. Fucking wrongway, an idiot's idiot!!

 

[Bray123]

Hitler misused 'Socialism' for the benefit of his cult followers in the same way as the present-day cultists are fooled by their leaders into misusing 'CRT', 'Woke', 'Insurrection' and 'Guns make you safe'.

 

[YDB95]

This is a quote from your own post:

“ Hitler on Marxism and Socialism
(Editor’s Note: StoppingSocialism.com does not agree with Hitler’s description of socialism, communism, and Marxism below. He deliberately misled people about the meaning of these terms for political reasons.)

“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national.” – 1923, Interview with George Sylvester Viereck.”

Did you forget to read before posting?

He didn't forget to read. He never reads his cites in their entirety.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Socialist control of private enterprise seemed sensible then to the German majority, so that's what he rode into power. Current power hungry tinpots might say something about protect the earth, respect all genders, etc. Whatever people want to hear.

Indeed. All you need is a temporary 51% in a "Democracy" which is why it is a such a pernicious evil (and part of all Socialist movements, i.e., get the people to vote themselves into state bondage) and why we were founded as a Republic and why the Socialists insist on calling us a Democracy. But Democracy is mob rule, two wolves and a sheep debating the next meal and the bane of individualism and personal liberty. Once you have pure majority rule you will always terminate your governance with a strong man because weak men hold their finger to the wind and try to stay ensconced in the 51% even if it means adopting anti-American Quisling philosophies.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

Hitler misused 'Socialism' for the benefit of his cult followers in the same way as the present-day cultists are fooled by their leaders into misusing 'CRT', 'Woke', 'Insurrection' and 'Guns make you safe'.

Ties into my freshly posted comments on the misuse of the word "Democracy" by the Socialists.

 

[Bray123]

Ties into my freshly posted comments on the misuse of the word "Democracy" by the Socialists.

Ties in with you not knowing what Socialism is. Neither Democracy for that matter.

 

[VinnyVeritas]

This from a poster who just demonstrated that he cannot discern between an obvious and blatant comedy/parody thread and a serious thread; triggered by the acronym, MAGA...

 

[DeluxAuto]

This from a poster who just demonstrated that he cannot discern between an obvious and blatant comedy/parody thread and a serious thread; triggered by the acronym, MAGA...

You claimed your debit card was flagged before you even got to the pump. Nothing you say holds weight, AJ. Nothing.
Ever.

 

[Rightguide]

This is a quote from your own post:

“ Hitler on Marxism and Socialism
(Editor’s Note: StoppingSocialism.com does not agree with Hitler’s description of socialism, communism, and Marxism below. He deliberately misled people about the meaning of these terms for political reasons.)

“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national.” – 1923, Interview with George Sylvester Viereck.”

Did you forget to read before posting?

I can't help it if the issue is too hard for you to interpret or understand. As I said in another post the difference is right in front of your face in the last part of the quote above. Hitler believed Socialism should be national, not global.

 

[RandyRebecca]

Hitler used the term "national socialism" to build a mass base, where nationalism and racism (ultimately taken to the most extreme levels) would be mixed in with "socialist" rhetoric. Many Nazis were ex-socialists and ex-communists, known as Beefsteaks (meaning brown on the outside, red on the inside). After the Nazis gained power, the Beefsteak Nazis, who had done the dirty work of crushing the labor movement, believed in a "second revolution" to establish "national socialism". Hitler and Himmler had the Beefsteaks killed during the Night of the Long Knives. This should end all talk about the Nazis being "socialist". Hitler had the Beefsteaks crushed, and used the state to forcibly aid big business to profits at the expense of the workers who now had no unions. There is nothing more right-wing than that.

Ties in with you not knowing what Socialism is. Neither Democracy for that matter.

What is democracy? It's basically the will of the majority of the ruling class being put into law and action. In capitalist society, that means the will of the majority of big business owners and bankers being put into law and action, since it is they who control the commanding heights of the economy and the workplaces, and that's where real power is, not in voting.

 

[Bray123]

I can't help it if the issue is too hard for you to interpret or understand. As I said in another post the difference is right in front of your face in the last part of the quote above. Hitler believed Socialism should be national, not global.

You carry on believing what FaceBook has told you; you've clearly done your research.

 

[Bray123]

Hitler used the term "national socialism" to build a mass base, where nationalism and racism (ultimately taken to the most extreme levels) would be mixed in with "socialist" rhetoric. Many Nazis were ex-socialists and ex-communists, known as Beefsteaks (meaning brown on the outside, red on the inside). After the Nazis gained power, the Beefsteak Nazis, who had done the dirty work of crushing the labor movement, believed in a "second revolution" to establish "national socialism". Hitler and Himmler had the Beefsteaks killed during the Night of the Long Knives. This should end all talk about the Nazis being "socialist". Hitler had the Beefsteaks crushed, and used the state to forcibly aid big business to profits at the expense of the workers who now had no unions. There is nothing more right-wing than that.


What is democracy? It's basically the will of the majority of the ruling class being put into law and action. In capitalist society, that means the will of the majority of big business owners and bankers being put into law and action, since it is they who control the commanding heights of the economy and the workplaces, and that's where real power is, not in voting.

Ah, the old Napoleonic version of democracy, as used by Trump.
'I care not who casts the votes of a nation, provided I can count them"

 

[RandyRebecca]

Ah, the old Napoleonic version of democracy, as used by Trump.
'I care not who casts the votes of a nation, provided I can count them"

I said what democracy is. In capitalist society, it is merely a screen to hide the fact that big business billionaires and bankers run society, and do so unconditionally. Their profitmaking trumps (pardon the expression) everything else in their eyes. You really think that voting in an election has more power than controlling the commanding heights of the economy and the workplaces?

 

[Bray123]

I said what democracy is. In capitalist society, it is merely a screen to hide the fact that big business billionaires and bankers run society, and do so unconditionally. Their profitmaking trumps (pardon the expression) everything else in their eyes. You really think that voting in an election has more power than controlling the commanding heights of the economy and the workplaces?

Yes, Trump (the capitalist billionaire) wants to count the votes and decide that he won. That enables his profitmaking which is more important than any benefit to the nation.

 

[stxjimmy]

I can't help it if the issue is too hard for you to interpret or understand. As I said in another post the difference is right in front of your face in the last part of the quote above. Hitler believed Socialism should be national, not global.

You’re contradicted by your own post.
In no way was hitler a socialist.

Carry on as you will, the entertainment is so amusing.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1706015262393135124

 

[DeluxAuto]

I can't help it if the issue is too hard for you to interpret or understand. As I said in another post the difference is right in front of your face in the last part of the quote above. Hitler believed Socialism should be national, not global.

Your entire premise of this thread is that Hitler was a Socialist and you think everyone right of Trump, your dear leader, is a Socialist. You think this because you're an ignorant dumbfuck and the thread itself is built on a false narrative.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Your entire premise of this thread is that Hitler was a Socialist and you think everyone right of Trump, your dear leader, is a Socialist. You think this because you're an ignorant dumbfuck and the thread itself is built on a false narrative.

In the dictionary there is a picture of wrongway, and the word "Dumbfuck"

 

[RandyRebecca]

Yes, Trump (the capitalist billionaire) wants to count the votes and decide that he won. That enables his profitmaking which is more important than any benefit to the nation.

Most of the ruling class see Trump as dangerous, exposing the way that they rule over society and ruining the reputation of their institutions, hence why most of them backed Biden. The idea that SCOTUS is only concerned about the law and stands above American society is now in ruins, Trump's reaction to the 2020 election result has caused millions of people to lose all belief in elections being legitimate etc.