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I'm still not sure I fully understand the context here, but if someone's openly behaving in some monstrous way then... people will react accordingly?

I guess the point that I'm clearly not making is that for some people honesty/transparency is the top of their priority list. I think being honest doesn't prohibit you from being a shitty person, an honest shitty person.

Cheating is so high up the list for some people which I can understand. We've attached so much value to knowing someone intimately that it can feel all kinds of bad when that bubble bursts. For me, if someone spent my money in a way I didn't approve - that would upset me more.Or is someone I loved did something that put them in danger without me knowing.
 
I think the ultimate lesson is make sure people in your life share your views on transparency.

This is profoundly great advice! You should be in the therapy business! :kiss:

03.21.21

Transatlantic moments (suggested)

While talking to people from other places on this planet, what have been some lingual differences you've discovered that were unexpected?

I've been amazed and intensely turned on by all the different ways there are to say "I love you" and "I want to be with you" :heart:
 
03.21.21

Transatlantic moments (suggested)

While talking to people from other places on this planet, what have been some lingual differences you've discovered that were unexpected?

Recently the idea that the US and the UK hear "sure" differently.

When I say "sure" I want to make sure he hears "yes! Let's do it!" Instead of "ugh ok....fine..."
 
03.21.21

Transatlantic moments (suggested)

While talking to people from other places on this planet, what have been some lingual differences you've discovered that were unexpected?

I don’t know if this is the sort of thing you’re talking about, but the first thing that came to my mind was a French Canadian girl who I met at the beach and who couldn’t pronounce “squirrel” to save her life. I can’t remember how it came up in conversation (and it was a group conversation), but it was hilarious. Much laughter ensued. :D
 
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Transatlantic moments (suggested)

While talking to people from other places on this planet, what have been some lingual differences you've discovered that were unexpected?
Okay. Can someone explain what is meant by cocktails in the US? Does it just mean early evening drinks? I've never understood why I can be invited for cocktails and handed a beer. Even allowing for the fact that Brits tend to regard much American beer as being blended with water to avoid the risk of it tasting of something, this just seemed weird. Help?
 
That it's fine to behave like a complete monster as long as everyone knows about it.

There are 3 sides to every story...theirs...mine...and the truth. One rarely hears both sides...and the best one can do is infer the truth from the side they heard from...which rarely happens.

I also think people are here for very different reasons. Is any one reason more wrong than another?

This happened to me within the last year. I grew attached to one person. At first, there seemed to be a strong connection. No sex...I wasn't looking for that. She said all the right things. Gave me reason to believe there was more...and that there possibly could be more beyond that. Then it stopped. Like a switch. I am really busy was the excuse, but don't stop writing cause you are important to me. And your letters give my life purpose. But you can tell. Something was no longer there. So my sharing changed to more guarded conversations...things that don't really matter. Long story short...I ultimately got the "i deserve better" letter.

Wouldn't it have been better to say that from the get go? Or not send me sexy pics? Something i didn't ask for? Or not share the way she did initially? Of course, I looked back at all the 6 months of messages...to understand what went wrong. And the best I could come up with was she was here for a very different reason than I was. Did she lie? Possibly. Probably. I know she continued talking with others so it really wasn't about time was it? But does it matter? No. Not in the scheme of things. I wish her nothing but happiness.

Should I have not said I loved her? Was that wrong? That was the switch. That was my contribution. Nah...I choose not to live like that anymore. Two failed marriages...numerous failed relationships...all with one thing in common. I lied about how I felt. Except this time I didn't lie...and it still did not end the way I wanted. But you know what? What was different? I was able to walk away knowing it really wasn't about me.
 
I do find it interesting in a topic on honesty -- cheating is the only thing people are thinking about. There are many things I'd hate to be lied to about over cheating.

And it's almost like being completely honest about something makes it less shitty but I do think it being brought (especially on Lit) makes it a high ground issue.

But anyway, new question.

Hey, people just ignored the guy who LIED ABOUT THE DEAD GRANDMA! To get out of work.
 
Okay. Can someone explain what is meant by cocktails in the US? Does it just mean early evening drinks? I've never understood why I can be invited for cocktails and handed a beer. Even allowing for the fact that Brits tend to regard much American beer as being blended with water to avoid the risk of it tasting of something, this just seemed weird. Help?

I’ve always assumed cocktails are alcohol drinks besides beer and wine but beer and wine are available. This is my assumption based on a job that includes creating menus for various events, big and small, where we would sometimes only offer beer and wine, and others where we’d offer cocktails.
 
Okay. Can someone explain what is meant by cocktails in the US? Does it just mean early evening drinks? I've never understood why I can be invited for cocktails and handed a beer. Even allowing for the fact that Brits tend to regard much American beer as being blended with water to avoid the risk of it tasting of something, this just seemed weird. Help?

first - I agree that any mega brewery beer is basically piss water and should be avoided at all costs. However there are now lots of microbreweries who make beer that is more than acceptable even to the standards of the Brits (having lived in London for a year).

Second - cocktails are what we call mixed drinks. However - if you are invited "for cocktails" I would expect it to be a late afternoon or early evening social gathering where a person could expect to be able to drink any beverage of their choice and some light food as well. In an event setting (say a conference) I would expect the drinks to be watered down and no place to sit. If it is an invitation of a more personal nature - a small group of friends going out for cocktails I would be expecting a more intimate more upscale bar/restaurant setting with relatively where you can sit together and drink and have appy's
 
Even allowing for the fact that Brits tend to regard much American beer as being blended with water to avoid the risk of it tasting of something, this just seemed weird. Help?

It’s funny because so many American beers are coveted by UKers/Europeans that have visited me - a couple have come with lists of what they wanted to try. How much American beer besides the big ones have you tried?

I remember trying so hard to tolerate Tuborg and Carlsberg. Blech.

I think if you prefer stout, you may be right that American isn’t as good. I live around the corner from one of the best breweries in the US, so if you’re ever this way you’ll have to give them a try.
 
03.21.21

Transatlantic moments (suggested)

While talking to people from other places on this planet, what have been some lingual differences you've discovered that were unexpected?

Transatlantic, not many. But I can’t understand deeply southern accents. Like rural, deep drawls. Nope. I need subtitles. And when your spouse is in the military, you encounter them often.

In terms of unexpected things, I will never understand the lack of basic words for ‘please’ in Scandinavian languages. ‘Would you be so kind’ = please. And they rarely use it. I also appreciate Iceland not giving into modern language and translating computer into ‘prophetess of numbers’. Lastly, I very much appreciate German for having a word for ‘face that cries out for a fist’. For example, ‘Ted Cruz has a major backpfeifengesicht’. It’s perfect.
 
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Which beers?

Other than I’m not sharing what brewery is around the corner from me on here, (and I’ve told you that one anyway), I’ve had people visit who love beer and looked for....
The alchemist heady topper
Trillium brewing
Ommegang
Bells (a few kinds)
Russian river brewing
Dogfish

I used to live in New England and there is a lot of really good beer there as well.
 
03.21.21

Transatlantic moments (suggested)

While talking to people from other places on this planet, what have been some lingual differences you've discovered that were unexpected?

For me, it's not so much the differences in grammar and meaning, but the differences in style. Some cultures are very abrupt which can seem rude until you get used to it. Some cultures a lot is conveyed in volume, which can be jarring. Other cultures are very passive in their expressions. Any one of which can lead to misunderstandings until you get the hang of it. It's all just fascinating to me. (I'm assuming the question was primarily about speaking English with people from the other parts of the world. I'm also just impressed immensely that so much of the work is multi-lingual.)
 
Other than I’m not sharing what brewery is around the corner from me on here, (and I’ve told you that one anyway), I’ve had people visit who love beer and looked for....
The alchemist heady topper
Trillium brewing
Ommegang
Bells (a few kinds)
Russian river brewing
Dogfish

I used to live in New England and there is a lot of really good beer there as well.

I lived in London in 1980 and the beers there were far superior to what we got here in the States back then. I re-visited Britain a few years ago and found that while the US has come a long way in terms of quality and the availability of varied styles. Britain hadn't changed much. I've read they have some micros, but the pubs I visited didn't have them.

And, there are many great American stouts. Stout is my favorite style. I have a refrigerator full of them. Cheers.
 
Access to quality [item] is always interesting to me in how people judge it. I mean, you probably can find great [item] in most developed places, but I feel like the bigger issue is how easy is it to acquire that thing in your country, in general.

eg, in the UK - good cheese and beer (by my definitions, anyway) are easy to get, because good cheese and beer are at Tesco and Tescos are absolutely everywhere in the country, rural or urban. Of course you'll find better stuff at specific shops and bigger cities have better choice, but I tend to look to the more common level.
 
Russian River Brewing and Ommegang are probably the most famous craft beers around the world.

There was a recent Reddit thread I saw where people lamented traveling all the way to Ireland and going on a pub crawl only to be served American beers.

The US is kind of like herpes, that way.

While always trying to eat and drink local wherever I am, it is good to see American beers being liked and drank all over the world.

Ommegang is has fantastic stuff.

Though I don't believe I've ever had non-French wine in France, or non-Spanish wine in Spain. They are proud of their products
 
first - I agree that any mega brewery beer is basically piss water and should be avoided at all costs. However there are now lots of microbreweries who make beer that is more than acceptable even to the standards of the Brits (having lived in London for a year).

Second - cocktails are what we call mixed drinks. However - if you are invited "for cocktails" I would expect it to be a late afternoon or early evening social gathering where a person could expect to be able to drink any beverage of their choice and some light food as well. In an event setting (say a conference) I would expect the drinks to be watered down and no place to sit. If it is an invitation of a more personal nature - a small group of friends going out for cocktails I would be expecting a more intimate more upscale bar/restaurant setting with relatively where you can sit together and drink and have appy's
This is exactly the kind of thing I wish I'd known when I first moved to the US. Cocktails, meaning the drink, are mixed drinks here too, which is why I was puzzled to be offered a beer. Because even if beer is mixed with water, according to the long-standing if not tired prejudice of Brits which has been so earnestly corrected here, beer with water still doesn't qualify as a mixed drink. And I'm guessing an appy is an appetiser?

I didn't pick up an American accent while I lived there, except for a single word - tomayto. And that was simply because nobody ever understood me when I said tomahto, and that did once cause an unfortunate pizza topping related incident.
 
Ok, this is one that has caused long, detailed and animated discussions with a conclusion that you Americans are just crazy and love to make things difficult 😁😜

What constitutes a sandwich and a burger, i know life changing stuff right.

Down here in our sleepy, backwards, simple little country(Australia, just to be clear) a sandwich is anything on sliced bread. Very simple.
A burger is any hot meat, ground or not, on a burger bun. Again very simple.
For example, i could go to Mickey Ds and get a cheeseburger or kfc and get a chicken fillet burger. Same same.

Anything cold on a burger bun or anything hot or cold on a long bun is called a roll. Eg, a salad roll, a hot chicken and gravy roll etc. Thanks to Subway, the little hip wanna be wanky cafes will call them subs too.

Why do y'all have to make things so hard people, yes bfg im talking to you 🤣🤣
 
Ok, this is one that has caused long, detailed and animated discussions with a conclusion that you Americans are just crazy and love to make things difficult 😁😜

What constitutes a sandwich and a burger, i know life changing stuff right.

Down here in our sleepy, backwards, simple little country(Australia, just to be clear) a sandwich is anything on sliced bread. Very simple.
A burger is any hot meat, ground or not, on a burger bun. Again very simple.
For example, i could go to Mickey Ds and get a cheeseburger or kfc and get a chicken fillet burger. Same same.

Anything cold on a burger bun or anything hot or cold on a long bun is called a roll. Eg, a salad roll, a hot chicken and gravy roll etc. Thanks to Subway, the little hip wanna be wanky cafes will call them subs too.

Why do y'all have to make things so hard people, yes bfg im talking to you 🤣🤣

Well in my hereabouts whenever you order a burger and fries it's a hamburger and french fries. The meat of course is either a hand-pressed ground beef patty or a store-bought uncooked one. This hamburger pattie can either be grilled or fried. It's generally sandwiched between some variety of hamburger or sandwich buns. Also, what we call french fries are known as something else in other countries.
 
To me, it has to be a filling sandwiched between two pieces of bread, and it must be reasonably edible as finger food, or it’s not a sarnie. Open sandwich? Not a sarnie. Sloppy joe, or one of those constructions that needs a skewer to hold it together? Not a sarnie.
 
Ok, this is one that has caused long, detailed and animated discussions with a conclusion that you Americans are just crazy and love to make things difficult 😁😜

What constitutes a sandwich and a burger, i know life changing stuff right.

Down here in our sleepy, backwards, simple little country(Australia, just to be clear) a sandwich is anything on sliced bread. Very simple.
A burger is any hot meat, ground or not, on a burger bun. Again very simple.
For example, i could go to Mickey Ds and get a cheeseburger or kfc and get a chicken fillet burger. Same same.

Anything cold on a burger bun or anything hot or cold on a long bun is called a roll. Eg, a salad roll, a hot chicken and gravy roll etc. Thanks to Subway, the little hip wanna be wanky cafes will call them subs too.

Why do y'all have to make things so hard people, yes bfg im talking to you 🤣🤣

*sigh*

:rolleyes:

You know I love you even when you're wrong, right? We had this discussion not three hours ago...and you're still wrong.

A burhger (my Aussie imitation) is ground meat, whether beef, turkey, chicken, lamb...that is cooked and on a burger bun.

A sandwich can be hot or cold on sliced bread or a roll. A chicken sandwich can be on what is typically thought of as a burger bun, but it's NOT a burger because it's NOT ground meat shaped into a patty.
 
To me, it has to be a filling sandwiched between two pieces of bread, and it must be reasonably edible as finger food, or it’s not a sarnie. Open sandwich? Not a sarnie. Sloppy joe, or one of those constructions that needs a skewer to hold it together? Not a sarnie.

Well, a hot open-faced hot roast beef sandwich with mashed potatoes and gravy along with a vegetable side is still a popular diner or restaurant menu item here. While technically it is still a sandwich it really is a plated meal that requires a fork and a table knife.

But sloppy joes can be eaten as a very messy sandwich or you can use a plate with a knife and fork.
 
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