Dear progressives

[YDB95]

I didn't say anything even remotely close to that.

Then exactly what did you mean by:

Yes.....just so long as you don't do it by robbing others via government authority. That's the actual problem "conservatives" (everyone not "progressive") have with "progressives". Not getting rich, HOW you guys like to get rich.

So you are arguing that someone, somewhere, got rich via what you call "robbing others via government authority". If you're not referring to welfare, then what? Public education? Subsidized student loans? I'm all ears.

 

[Politruk]

Actually, yes I am.

Not the food stamps welfare...the BILLIONS in contracts and "emergency" funding for self inflicted stupid like "too big to fail" absolutely.

Crony capitalism is much more a Pub than a Dem thing.

 

[YDB95]

We all remember W's "compassionate conservatism," and we all remember that nothing worthwhile ever came of it.

Not to mention we knew before he was "elected" just what "compassionate conservatism" really meant: extremism with a smile.

 

[jomar]

Empathy doesn't actually accomplish anything except to make the empathizer feel good about themselves.

Or maybe it helps folk care about others and feel compassion

 

[lovecraft68]

Empathy should be a base trait required.

Because liberals have so much empathy for people they don't agree with?

 

[YDB95]

Or maybe it helps folk care about others and feel compassion

You don't expect Saint Ann to understand that, do you?

 

[Politruk]

Empathy doesn't actually accomplish anything except to make the empathizer feel good about themselves.

Now we're deep into "evil cannot understand good" territory.

 

[YDB95]

Because liberals have so much empathy for people they don't agree with?

Yes. You wouldn't understand, but we do.

 

[lovecraft68]

Embrace conservatism and...your daughters, sisters, wives, and mothers will not have to worry about men pretending to be women violating their spaces, and the word women can once more be uttered without fear of reprisal.

 

[Politruk]

Embrace conservatism and...your daughters, sisters, wives, and mothers will not have to worry about men pretending to be women violating their spaces, and the word women can once more be uttered without fear of reprisal.

 

[ll74]

Because liberals have so much empathy for people they don't agree with?

Where did I mention parties or ideologies?

 

[Saint_Ann]

Now we're deep into "evil cannot understand good" territory.

Maybe empathy will come up with a cure for cancer.

 

[UltraChad]

We all remember W's "compassionate conservatism," and we all remember that nothing worthwhile ever came of it.

Because it largely never happened.

 

[Saint_Ann]

You don't expect Saint Ann to understand that, do you?

Compassion don't do shite either.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Yes. You wouldn't understand, but we do.

And that helps them how?

 

[jomar]

You don't expect Saint Ann to understand that, do you?

No. He’s sadly devolved into a troll. He had a pretty good run as Bert Notorious on the GB

 

[YDB95]

Embrace conservatism and...your daughters, sisters, wives, and mothers will not have to worry about men pretending to be women violating their spaces, and the word women can once more be uttered without fear of reprisal.

I'll probably regret playing along, but...when has anyone ever said "women" and suffered reprisal for it?
[Insert stock "YDB asks for a cite and the other guys posts a link to someone saying something else entirely" here.]

 

[UltraChad]

Then exactly what did you mean by:


So you are arguing that someone, somewhere, got rich via what you call "robbing others via government authority". If you're not referring to welfare, then what? Public education? Subsidized student loans? I'm all ears.

I actually went back and edited.

I am arguing that people get rich on welfare.

Not the food stamps welfare...the BILLIONS in contracts and "emergency" funding for self inflicted stupid like "too big to fail" and a "undocumented persons" or "persons in need of housing" crisis.... absolutely. That shit is BIG money. Most get peanuts but there are the elites that gorge like absolute ticks on the taxpayers ass. And as with "too big to fail" most of it is done right in the voters face, totally out in the open.

Public ed, subsidized student loans get people rich too....universities are some of the richest institutions int he country. They got that way thorough subsidized student loans, that the students can't pay for.

 

[Politruk]

Maybe empathy will come up with a cure for cancer.

Why not? It came up with a polio vaccine. Salk didn't do that for money.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Where did I mention parties or ideologies?

Are you even really here?

 

[YDB95]

I actually went back and edited.

I am arguing that people get rich on welfare.

Not the food stamps welfare...the BILLIONS in contracts and "emergency" funding for self inflicted stupid like "too big to fail" and a "undocumented persons" or "persons in need of housing" crisis.... absolutely. That shit is BIG money. Most get peanuts but there are the elites that gorge like absolute ticks on the taxpayers ass. And as with "too big to fail" most of it is done right in the voters face, totally out in the open.

If you want to put an end to "too big to fail," you'll find plenty of allies on the left, including me. I believe "too big to fail" is too big, period, and that we need to bring back trustbusting.

 

[Politruk]

I actually went back and edited.

I am arguing that people get rich on welfare.

Not the food stamps welfare...the BILLIONS in contracts and "emergency" funding for self inflicted stupid like "too big to fail" and a "undocumented persons" or "persons in need of housing" crisis.... absolutely. That shit is BIG money. Most get peanuts but there are the elites that gorge like absolute ticks on the taxpayers ass. And as with "too big to fail" most of it is done right in the voters face, totally out in the open.

Public ed, subsidized student loans get people rich too....universities are some of the richest institutions int he country. They got that way thorough subsidized student loans, that the students can't pay for.

Crony capitalism is much more a Pub than a Dem thing.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Why not? It came up with a polio vaccine. Salk didn't do that for money.

That wasn't empathy.

 

[Yarglenurp]

All this chatter… my core message stands.

Progressives… just switch sides. It is the age of grift. Show The cons how you accept their victory, and show them how much better you are at making money and profiting off grift than they could ever be.

 

[Politruk]

That wasn't empathy.

Empathy was the only motive.