Dear progressives

[YDB95]

That wasn't empathy.

Tell us you know nothing about Jonas Salk without saying so. (Served with a nice side dish of implied anti-Semitism, too.)

 

[YDB95]

All this chatter… my core message stands.

Progressives… just switch sides. It is the age of grift. Show The cons how you accept their victory, and show them how much better you are at making money and profiting off grift than they could ever be.

I take a different view. Bottom line, the crazy right won the election. Now they own whatever comes next. Let Trump be Trump, and then let the country -and the world - see what their kind of naked greed and hate gets us. Don't worry, the Dems are always there to clean up the mess afterward; they've been doing it since 1933.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Empathy was the only motive.

I don't think that translates into Russian.

 

[Saint_Ann]

Tell us you know nothing about Jonas Salk without saying so. (Served with a nice side dish of implied anti-Semitism, too.)

You credit empathy for the polio vaccine? Lol.

 

[YDB95]

I don't think that translates into Russian.

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[YDB95]

You credit empathy for the polio vaccine? Lol.

In part, yes. I'm not at all surprised you don't get it.

 

[Saint_Ann]

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Great Another bot.

 

[Yarglenurp]

I take a different view. Bottom line, the crazy right won the election. Now they own whatever comes next. Let Trump be Trump, and then let the country -and the world - see what their kind of naked greed and hate gets us. Don't worry, the Dems are always there to clean up the mess afterward; they've been doing it since 1933.

Trump isn’t really the issue here. If it wasn’t trump, it’d just be another grifter. Gaetz, MTG, etc… they all existed independently of trump.

The crazies didn’t win, they just showed us the temperature of the room.

 

[Saint_Ann]

In part, yes. I'm not at all surprised you don't get it.

^^^^^
Also believes in the Easter bunny.

 

[YDB95]

Trump isn’t really the issue here. If it wasn’t trump, it’d just be another grifter. Gaetz, MTG, etc… they all existed independently of trump.

The crazies didn’t win, they just showed us the temperature of the room.

I disagree. Trump is uniquely appealing to the deplorables, probably because at heart they know he won't make things any better, they'll just make everyone else as miserable as they are. That's why he always overperforms the polls. No one else, not even the other nutjobs you mentioned, offer the same blend of naked bigotry and absolute shamelessness (although not for lack of effort on their part).

 

[YDB95]

^^^^^
Also believes in the Easter bunny.

Not since I discovered the eggs were hard boiled.

 

[jomar]

Public ed, subsidized student loans get people rich too....universities are some of the richest institutions int he country. They got that way thorough subsidized student loans, that the students can't pay for.

You’ll have to link that argument up. Unis have high costs and tuition, but that’s not how they have deep pockets. They have rainmakers who woo the rich and businesses for donations and endowments. Predatory lending companies provide student loans they can’t pay for, not universities.

 

[UltraChad]

If you want to put an end to "too big to fail," you'll find plenty of allies on the left, including me. I believe "too big to fail" is too big, period, and that we need to bring back trustbusting.

I don't think it's too big...I just don't think it should be the governments (taxpayers) responsibility when a corporation fucks up....if they crash their company they need to eat their fail not get a golden parachute from the taxpayer because they crashed their company.

I don't think we need trust busting, but we do need some basic regulations that are pointed at something other than letting elites use the government to take money from the people by force.

 

[UltraChad]

You’ll have to link that argument up.

Why? Do you seriously think Harvard and Yale are BROKE?? LMFAO

Unis have high costs and tuition, but that’s not how they have deep pockets.

Nah the mega billions from the government is NOTHING!!! The student debt slavery crisis isn't a real thing!! Dems were all JK'ing about student debt forgiveness, again ALWAYS at the working class's expense.

They have rainmakers who woo the rich and businesses for donations and endowments.

Sure....but the literal TRILLIONS in government guaranteed student loans is AT LEAST as much.

Predatory lending companies provide student loans they can’t pay for, not universities.

But who is the end benefactor of that??? The universities...... and they all (the schools and the finance companies) only get this because government made it so.

If it weren't for the government welfare programs, they wouldn't have shit compared to what they have now.

 

[UltraChad]

All this chatter… my core message stands.

Progressives… just switch sides. It is the age of grift. Show The cons how you accept their victory, and show them how much better you are at making money and profiting off grift than they could ever be.

Not at all because the right isn't grifting.

We're putting an end to yours.

 

[Politruk]

Not since I discovered the eggs were hard boiled.

Yeah, real-life rabbits lay their eggs raw.

 

[Politruk]

Not at all because the right isn't grifting.

We're putting an end to yours.

Crony capitalism is much more a Pub than a Dem thing.

 

[jomar]

Why? Do you seriously think Harvard and Yale are BROKE?? LMFAO

Subsidized student loans. That was your argument.

Nah the mega billions from the government is NOTHING!!! The student debt slavery crisis isn't a real thing!! Dems were all JK'ing about student debt forgiveness, again ALWAYS at the working class's expense.

Ah, I forgot how hyperbolic you are.

Sure....but the literal TRILLIONS in government guaranteed student loans is AT LEAST as much.

Trillions? Nah.

But who is the end benefactor of that??? The universities...... and they all (the schools and the finance companies) only get this because government made it so.

Schools got paid. Predatory lending companies gouged students. How is that democrats fault?

If it weren't for the government welfare programs, they wouldn't have shit compared to what they have now.

Lol, you’re on a welfare jag. Welcome to the past.

 

[butters]

All this chatter… my core message stands.

Progressives… just switch sides. It is the age of grift. Show The cons how you accept their victory, and show them how much better you are at making money and profiting off grift than they could ever be.

I will not go against my true nature and become the very thing I despise

 

[Saint_Ann]

I will not go against my true nature and become the very thing I despise

I don't despise you butters, just because of your fucked up ideology. I guess that makes you and me just a little bit different.

 

[YDB95]

I don't think it's too big...I just don't think it should be the governments (taxpayers) responsibility when a corporation fucks up....if they crash their company they need to eat their fail not get a golden parachute from the taxpayer because they crashed their company.

I don't think we need trust busting, but we do need some basic regulations that are pointed at something other than letting elites use the government to take money from the people by force.

I'd be fine with that too. But if you voted Republican, you voted for the exact opposite of what you're advocating for here.

 

[UltraChad]

Subsidized student loans. That was your argument.

Yea....and??

Ah, I forgot how hyperbolic you are.

Nothing hyperbolic about it. One of the biggest things for the left in the last few years was making the working class pay off the elites student debt because they don't wanna!! HUGE Dem position. Snobby upper middle class to rich people unloading their debt onto the working class....TYPICAL DEMOCRATS.

Trillions? Nah.

1.74T in current debt. That doesn't include all the people who have paid off their loans.

But please keep your head planted firmly up your ass about it. Democrats are depending on it. There are thousands of PhD's in Trans Awareness Studies who need you to vote for Democrats to rob someone else to pay for their STUPID bullshit.

Schools got paid. Predatory lending companies gouged students. How is that democrats fault?

Who set that entire legal scam for "education" to guarantee their buddies in academia got fuckin' PAAAAAID??

Hint: it wasn't republicans.

Lol, you’re on a welfare jag. Welcome to the past.

WTF is a 'welfare jag"??

 

[jomar]

Yea....and??

Lol

Nothing hyperbolic about it. One of the biggest things for the left in the last few years was making the working class pay off the elites student debt because they don't wanna!! HUGE Dem position. Snobby upper middle class to rich people unloading their debt onto the working class....TYPICAL DEMOCRATS.

I have mixed feelings about student debt relief, which includes trade schools btw, not just Ivy League elites. Low % government loans are not the same as the predatory lending programs. Seems to me the debt relief programs should target the excessive rates, not the principal.

1.74T in current debt. That doesn't include all the people who have paid off their loans.

Thank you for agreeing with me.

But please keep your head planted firmly up your ass about it. Democrats are depending on it. There are thousands of PhD's in Trans Awareness Studies who need you to vote for Democrats to rob someone else to pay for their STUPID bullshit.

That is a slippery slope. What’s more valued; an engineering degree, fine arts, political science, finance, English, HVAC, welding, female studies… Who might should benefit from predatory lending debt relief?

Who set that entire legal scam for "education" to guarantee their buddies in academia got fuckin' PAAAAAID??

Hint: it wasn't republicans.

More histrionics. Good job.

WTF is a 'welfare jag"??

What you’re screaming about

 

[UltraChad]

Lol

I have mixed feelings about student debt relief, which includes trade schools btw, not just Ivy League elites. Low % government loans are not the same as the predatory lending programs. Seems to me the debt relief programs should target the excessive rates, not the principal.

Never said they were the same but I do agree with targeting the excessive rates, a very TRUMPIAN and MAGA position to hold.

Thank you for agreeing with me.

Didn't you say Nah?? How did I agree with you?

That is a slippery slope. What’s more valued; an engineering degree, fine arts, political science, finance, English, HVAC, welding, female studies… Who might should benefit from predatory lending debt relief?

It's really not. Check their incomes...clearly some degrees are more valued than others.

Might? Anyone who was dumb enough to sign up for them. Should? Nobody....stupid is supposed to hurt.

More histrionics. Good job.

Facts aren't histrionics just because you don't like them.

What you’re screaming about

Oh so you were just full of shit and talking out your ass....got it.

 

[jomar]

Never said they were the same but I do agree with targeting the excessive rates, a very TRUMPIAN and MAGA position to hold.

More like pragmatic.

It's really not. Check their incomes...clearly some degrees are more valued than others.

Agreed on value as measured by income, but you miss the point. The point being that all degrees have the same value when measured by predatory lending rates.

Might? Anyone who was dumb enough to sign up for them. Should? Nobody....stupid is supposed to hurt.

Desperate teens and early 20somethings as well as some older folk wanting a better life are not the most sophisticated of borrowers. And the fine print is likely confusing if not misconstrued. Hence, predatory.

Facts aren't histrionics just because you don't like them.

lol, you don’t understand the definition of histrionic

Oh so you were just full of shit and talking out your ass....got it.

No, you’re lacking self awareness. But no worries, it’s amusing for now