The 'ethics' of casual 'bdsm'

[BLoved]

Just working out the stats on my stories.

Optimizing 1 and 5 votes (hate/love), here are the latest stats:

Love, Part I: Endings

3747 visits, 27 votes, 3.37 rating

Eleven 1s, sixteen 5s

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Love, Part II: Introductions

3946 visits, 27 votes, 3.70 rating

Eight 1s, one 2, eighteen 5s

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Love, Part III: Winter Interlude

1674 visits, 12 votes, 3.58 rating

Four 1s, one 4, seven 5s.

Adjusting the 2 and 4, that would mean overall there are twenty-four 1s, forty-two 5s.

To those who enjoyed my stories, my thanks.

 

[Cattypuss]

Hard to imagine you manning a phone with a temper like that.

As I said before, suicidal people sound NOTHING like you. But in any case, whether you find it easy or hard to imagine me doing something really couldn't matter less.

You're saying it is impossible for someone to wait too long before they change their mind? That they can't seek attention unaware of the fact that help is too far away to make a difference?

Nope. I'm not. I won't try to explain again. Not to you.

 

[BLoved]

As I said before, suicidal people sound NOTHING like you.

So it's okay for a suicide hotline operator to add to 80 pages of verbal abuse against one man because he rejects the 'ethics' of casual 'bdsm'.

Thank you for sharing your views.

 

[BLoved]

Just working out the stats on my stories.

~smile~

And someone just voted a 1 for Love, Part III: Winter Interlude

 

[Homburg]

And as you prove me right, you learn to hate me a little more.

Why do you want people to hate you?

 

[WriterDom]

Just working out the stats on my stories.

Optimizing 1 and 5 votes (hate/love), here are the latest stats:

Love, Part I: Endings

3747 visits, 27 votes, 3.37 rating

Eleven 1s, sixteen 5s

--

Love, Part II: Introductions

3946 visits, 27 votes, 3.70 rating

Eight 1s, one 2, eighteen 5s

--

Love, Part III: Winter Interlude

1674 visits, 12 votes, 3.58 rating

Four 1s, one 4, seven 5s.

Adjusting the 2 and 4, that would mean overall there are twenty-four 1s, forty-two 5s.

To those who enjoyed my stories, my thanks.

Number one. Who cares?

And two, Why do you insist on making these numbers up. When all the site provides is a score and number of votes. I'm pretty sure, too, that the data base isn't updated after every vote but comes in bunches.

As some of you may be wondering, I don't do casual bdsm. I'm not involved in any community, nor do I wish to be.

...

You aren't involved in this community? Aside from sleeping you seem to live here.

 

[BLoved]

Why do you want people to hate you?

I don't want anyone to hate me.

I accept it as a part of reality some people will, and some people won't.

My principles are not based on popularity, and whether I am popular or not I will retain my principles.

That doesn't mean I can't see how my principles and the way I act on them affects others.

There will be those who hate me for my principles, and those who don't.

There may even be one who would love me for my principles, stranger things have happened.

 

[BLoved]

You aren't involved in this community? Aside from sleeping you seem to live here.

Let's check the BLoved! poll, shall we:

Should be banned 7 17.50%
Should be ignored 22 55.00%
Should be celebrated as a testimony to our tolerance 12 30.00%
Should be a monitor 2 5.00%
Other 6 15.00%

Nope, doesn't look like I belong.

By the way, thanks for starting that poll. I'm sure we all appreciate a public popularity poll to show someone how unpopular he is.

Shall we assume Daddy2mylilgirl has been pulling more of his tricks?

 

[chy_girl]

And how do you think a novice with low self-esteem would stand up to all this abuse?

Would she just cave in and do as she is told?

And if what she was being told to do was something that destroyed whatever pride she had in herself? What then?

After confronting her with all this abuse from all these people, trying to force her to do something that would destroy what little self-esteem she has left ... might she not consider suicide?

And if not suicide, perhaps simply hide herself away, living alone, never loved ...

Is that not a possibility?

Do you think the mob would care?

Am I the only one who is getting sick of subs being portrayed as weak willed females who are incapable of caring for themselves and are nothing more than shrinking violets in danger of wilting away into nothingness unless some well meaning Dom swoops in to save her from herself?

 

[WriterDom]

You never seem to address your lies about the voting. Suppose you wake up and you have two new votes. How do you know they are a two and a four when they could be two threes? Does mathematics cease to exist in the township of Bobcaygeon? Are you just full of nicotine stained shit?

 

[Homburg]

Am I the only one who is getting sick of subs being portrayed as weak willed females who are incapable of caring for themselves and are nothing more than shrinking violets in danger of wilting away into nothingness unless some well meaning Dom swoops in to save her from herself?

Nope. More than a few other people are.

 

[WriterDom]

Let's check the BLoved! poll, shall we:

Should be banned 7 17.50%
Should be ignored 22 55.00%
Should be celebrated as a testimony to our tolerance 12 30.00%
Should be a monitor 2 5.00%
Other 6 15.00%

Nope, doesn't look like I belong.

By the way, thanks for starting that poll. I'm sure we all appreciate a public popularity poll to show someone how unpopular he is.

Shall we assume Daddy2mylilgirl has been pulling more of his tricks?

How do you think I would be received if I posted a thread in the GBLT forum about the "ethics of Homosexuality" and in the first post accused them of being rapists and pedophiles . And then followed it up by 614 additional judgmental posts based on my two visits to gay bars in the last 25 years?

You don't get banned for your message. You get banned because you are a liar and a jerk.

 

[LaRocha]

Am I the only one who is getting sick of subs being portrayed as weak willed females who are incapable of caring for themselves and are nothing more than shrinking violets in danger of wilting away into nothingness unless some well meaning Dom swoops in to save her from herself?

You just described the universal archetype.

 

[LaRocha]

Let's check the BLoved! poll, shall we:

Should be banned 7 17.50%
Should be ignored 22 55.00%
Should be celebrated as a testimony to our tolerance 12 30.00%
Should be a monitor 2 5.00%
Other 6 15.00%

Nope, doesn't look like I belong.

By the way, thanks for starting that poll. I'm sure we all appreciate a public popularity poll to show someone how unpopular he is.

Shall we assume Daddy2mylilgirl has been pulling more of his tricks?

Translation: "They're still talking about me!!!!!!!!!"

 

[BLoved]

Am I the only one who is getting sick of subs being portrayed as weak willed females who are incapable of caring for themselves and are nothing more than shrinking violets in danger of wilting away into nothingness unless some well meaning Dom swoops in to save her from herself?

Are you trying to say there is no such thing as a female submissive with low self-esteem?

Those are the ones I've talked about, as they are most at risk when faced with the tactics that have filled 80 pages of this discussion.

There are also a lot of female submissives with healthy self-esteem. The only way they're going to get involved in casual 'bdsm' is if they are misinformed regarding the risks.

And that does raise a question ... why are you and your friends trying to silence the one man who is trying to make them aware of those risks?

If you actually had a solid argument in favour of casual 'bdsm', why haven't you presented it rather than wasting 80 pages to tell everyone you intensely dislike the fact I have the freedom to express my point of view on the subject?

And there is a very good answer ... there isn't one.

And it is because there isn't a solid argument in favour of casual 'bdsm' you've wasted 80 pages trying to distract everyone by attacking me, personally.

That is the 'ethics' of casual 'bdsm'.

 

[BLoved]

How do you think I would be received if I posted a thread in the GBLT forum about the "ethics of Homosexuality" and in the first post accused them of being rapists and pedophiles . And then followed it up by 614 additional judgmental posts based on my two visits to gay bars in the last 25 years?

So you want to argue that casual 'bdsm' is the One True Way and anyone who says otherwise is a heretic?

Hallelujah Brother for saving the world of (casual) 'bdsm' from those of us who believe otherwise.

You don't get banned for your message. You get banned because you are a liar and a jerk.

And the One True Way will judge which of us is pure enough and which isn't, is that it?

Kangaroo court.

 

[WriterDom]

So you want to argue that casual 'bdsm' is the One True Way and anyone who says otherwise is a heretic?

Hallelujah Brother for saving the world of (casual) 'bdsm' from those of us who believe otherwise.



And the One True Way will judge which of us is pure enough and which isn't, is that it?

Kangaroo court.

So are you lying about the voting? I'll have to take your non-answer as a yes, you were lying.

 

[BLoved]

So are you lying about the voting? I'll have to take your non-answer as a yes, you were lying.

I just got a 3 vote, a 3 vote and a 2 vote for the three stories.

Shall I assume you are testing me?

 

[CutieMouse]

Am I the only one who sees these things?

No, you aren't the only person who sees unhealthy relationships in and out of BDSM.

Do you see anyone from the casual community outraged by the abuses of the casual community?

How convenient that you are ignoring the pages upon pages of information members of this forum have posted proving that real life communities frequently hold meetings on personal safety, emotional health, healthy relationship dynamics, how to spot an abuser, how to get out of an abusive relationship, that "no means no", how to negotiate a scene (or relationship), and ignore threads on this and other forums where time and time and time again those newly interested in BDSM are offered practical advice on how to safely engage in a power based relationship.

If the "casual community" isn't outraged by the few who do take advantage of submissive people, why is it so easy to find hundreds upon hundreds of resources empowering submissives and thereby enabling them to avoid abusive situations?

 

[RuReal]

No, you aren't the only person who sees unhealthy relationships in and out of BDSM.



How convenient that you are ignoring the pages upon pages of information members of this forum have posted proving that real life communities frequently hold meetings on personal safety, emotional health, healthy relationship dynamics, how to spot an abuser, how to get out of an abusive relationship, that "no means no", how to negotiate a scene (or relationship), and ignore threads on this and other forums where time and time and time again those newly interested in BDSM are offered practical advice on how to safely engage in a power based relationship.

If the "casual community" isn't outraged by the few who do take advantage of submissive people, why is it so easy to find hundreds upon hundreds of resources empowering submissives and thereby enabling them to avoid abusive situations?

It is not that he does not know all of this it is that he wants attention. In everything he says and how he says it he is crying for attention and we are giving it to him.

I love how he says any submissive that does casual BDSM has issues. Ignoring him is probably about the best thing that can be done in this case.

 

[chy_girl]

Are you trying to say there is no such thing as a female submissive with low self-esteem?

Those are the ones I've talked about, as they are most at risk when faced with the tactics that have filled 80 pages of this discussion.

There are also a lot of female submissives with healthy self-esteem. The only way they're going to get involved in casual 'bdsm' is if they are misinformed regarding the risks.

And that does raise a question ... why are you and your friends trying to silence the one man who is trying to make them aware of those risks?

If you actually had a solid argument in favour of casual 'bdsm', why haven't you presented it rather than wasting 80 pages to tell everyone you intensely dislike the fact I have the freedom to express my point of view on the subject?

And there is a very good answer ... there isn't one.

And it is because there isn't a solid argument in favour of casual 'bdsm' you've wasted 80 pages trying to distract everyone by attacking me, personally.

That is the 'ethics' of casual 'bdsm'.

You know, I thought about debating a few points out of what you said... but I really don't give a fuck about your misinformed, misogynistic, rhetoric.

And don't start on the trying to silence you crap. There were multiple members who actually encouraged a discussion. Problem is, you don't discuss - you preach.

 

[BLoved]

I really don't give a fuck about your misinformed, misogynistic, rhetoric.

I take it you learned nothing about me from interviewing me.

Or perhaps that was just a fishing expedition.

 

[zarngash]

Wow - it is still going on and on and on...

Someone please pm me an executive summary of this thread - under 250 words would be great!

K-Thx

 

[BLoved]

how to spot an abuser, how to get out of an abusive relationship

They are not teaching that casual 'bdsm' itself is abusive, and yet we have 80 pages filled with evidence of abusive behaviour conducted by the casual community against one man because he rejects their 'ethics'.

So of what value are these efforts to 'educate' when they overlook all of this?

 

[chy_girl]

I take it you learned nothing about me from interviewing me.

Or perhaps that was just a fishing expedition.

We already had this discussion. If you truly wish for the answer, go back and look.