Plagiarism on Storiesonline

[MillieDynamite]

As a person who's had many stories lifted from either SOL or here, and posted elsewhere for free (under my pen), and had them also posted at Amazon with a Co-Author listed but still under my pen name, I feel for you. It's very upsetting. Amazon not only pulled the story but also banned the pen name.

 

[MillieDynamite]

Was your story, Aerobic Mom? It seems to be his only story at SOL. He has 14 stories up for sale, but Aerobic Mom isn't one of them.

On my latest Lit posting an anonymous reader commented, asking me if I was Mom Lover on Storiesonline. Because he'd read my Aunt Tina story there posted by that person. I looked it up and sure enough Mom Lover posted Living With Aunt which is my story retitled. I have reached out to the admins and hopefully they will respond.

In the meantime, if you write incest stories you might want to check out this person and make sure he's not posting your work.

 

[MillieDynamite]

If they change the pen name (penname hum both seem to be right and word doesn't like penname, but I see it both ways, wait, what was I saying).

Back, on track, if they change the title and pen name (or just the penname) it'll be hard to know its been stolen.

 

[IWroteThis]

I been to lyric websites that don't allow highlighting or select all, so it's (as far as I know) impossible to copy and paste stuff from their websites.

Maybe if that was possible to do here thieves wouldn't steal stories, cause theirs a massive different between copy and pasting thousands of words vs reading and typing them.

Anyways, hopefully those admins do the responsible thing and remove the stolen story. Otherwise they should be held liable too.

The people doing this in bulk are not doing it by hand.

There are plenty of browser alternatives out there that request HTML files and present them as a PDF or eBook rather than in a standard window. The good ones even have the ability to combine multi-page stories back into a single result.

If you want to write your own fetch routine, it's a pretty simple script to pull and save HTML files. The tricky part is writing the code to clean up the file that you downloaded and combining multiple pages back into a single story.

 

[Rob_Royale]

Was your story, Aerobic Mom? It seems to be his only story at SOL. He has 14 stories up for sale, but Aerobic Mom isn't one of them.

There were 13 this morning with mine deleted. I did notice that the same user had used photos of real porn stars on his covers and mentioned it to the webmaster. It's possible he did further removal.

 

[lovecraft68]

Well, you are alive.

Can't say the same for Alwayswantedto's stories posted as Alwayswantedto seven years or more after the man's death by someone claiming to be Alwayswantedto's legit, author-endorsed archivist, but, those stories are good for business, so any reason for someone to post them is a good one, I guess.

When this topic came up awhile back I complained along with some others and crickets.

Something like that says a lot about this person and to me, negates the decent fellow thing. When someone does shady things they're a shady sort. @RejectReality post about this just being a warning instead of just looking deeper and banning the guy fuels that opinion.

What really ticks me off about the AWT situation is the man wanted his work removed because he was dying and no one in his family knew about his work and he was afraid they'd find out. I explained that in my complaint but....yeah.

Long time ago, I was thinking of doing an anthology of stories and AWT agreed to use one of his as long as I assigned it a different pen name. He sent me three to choose from. When he passed, I didn't feel it was right to use the story and didn't. I mentioned this once on the forum a few years back and received multiple PM's from people asking if I'd send them the stories and got pissy when I wouldn't.

I don't pretend to be the most moral person but something like this is just tacky, classless, rude and tells me a lot about them.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

When this topic came up awhile back I complained along with some others and crickets.

Something like that says a lot about this person and to me, negates the decent fellow thing. When someone does shady things they're a shady sort. @RejectReality post about this just being a warning instead of just looking deeper and banning the guy fuels that opinion.

What really ticks me off about the AWT situation is the man wanted his work removed because he was dying and no one in his family knew about his work and he was afraid they'd find out. I explained that in my complaint but....yeah.

Long time ago, I was thinking of doing an anthology of stories and AWT agreed to use one of his as long as I assigned it a different pen name. He sent me three to choose from. When he passed, I didn't feel it was right to use the story and didn't. I mentioned this once on the forum a few years back and received multiple PM's from people asking if I'd send them the stories and got pissy when I wouldn't.

I don't pretend to be the most moral person but something like this is just tacky, classless, rude and tells me a lot about them.

Have you tried providing the PMs with AWT that prove he wanted all of his work removed permanently? It would, sort of, directly counter the claim of that person that he's the late author's archivist.

I agree that it's despicable to profit like that, against the author's dying wishes. Considering that AWT posted those stories for free on the internet, it makes sense that people saved them and maybe shared them amongst themselves, but this particular way of profiting, and the impersonation of an "archivist," is just... yeah.

I believe I already said that I feel the author should have the exclusive right to decide what happens with their work. If he wanted the stories gone, then his wishes should be honored. On the other hand, what anyone inheriting the author wants, I couldn't care less, to be honest, whether that's lawyers, a publishing house, or sons and daughters of the author.

In my view, such intellectual and artistic work doesn't belong to them anymore than it belongs to any reader out there. Maybe that's an unusual view, but that's how I see it.

 

[lovecraft68]

Have you tried providing the PMs with AWT that prove he wanted all of his work removed permanently? It would, sort of, directly counter the claim of that person that he's the late author's archivist.

I agree that it's despicable to profit like that, against the author's dying wishes. Considering that AWT posted those stories for free on the internet, it makes sense that people saved them and maybe shared them amongst themselves, but this particular way of profiting, and the impersonation of an "archivist," is just... yeah.

I believe I already said that I feel the author should have the exclusive right to decide what happens with their work. If he wanted the stories gone, then his wishes should be honored. On the other hand, what anyone inheriting the author wants, I couldn't care less, to be honest, whether that's lawyers, a publishing house, or sons and daughters of the author.

In my view, such intellectual and artistic work doesn't belong to them anymore than it belongs to any reader out there. Maybe that's an unusual view, but that's how I see it.

This was through e-mail many years ago, I can look for it, but not sure I still have it. I also doubt it matters to someone like that. "How do I know that was really the author?"

I'm a simple sort. It's not yours, you don't touch it. Whether than be someone's lunch in the fridge at work, someone's money, their property. This extends to creative works. I didn't write it, so it's not mine.

People can try and spin things, but end of the day, you're a thief if you take what was never yours, and someone who abides a thief on their site is also one.

Is that too simplistic? Maybe it is, but is it that much to ask that people practice basic decency? Apparently so.

To be clear, I've said before that people trying to track down every place their story ended up might be better off not bothering. But they are around to make that choice. When someone is deceased, they can't defend themselves so there's a difference there to me.

 

[M_K_Babalon]

I been to lyric websites that don't allow highlighting or select all, so it's (as far as I know) impossible to copy and paste stuff from their websites.

Maybe if that was possible to do here thieves wouldn't steal stories, cause theirs a massive different between copy and pasting thousands of words vs reading and typing them.

Anyways, hopefully those admins do the responsible thing and remove the stolen story. Otherwise they should be held liable too.

There's a lil paper icon in my FireFox address bar, that if I click it, strips out almost all html from a site.

 

[MillieDynamite]

We can hope. I hate cheaters for their cheating. Stealing others' work is worse than using AI; at least with AI, you have to give a prompt to get it to do the work.

There were 13 this morning with mine deleted. I did notice that the same user had used photos of real porn stars on his covers and mentioned it to the webmaster. It's possible he did further removal.

 

[RejectReality]

*sigh* Tried Bing and DuckDuckGo. I didn't expect anything from Bing, but I had at least some slight hope for DaDuck. No dice. No search engine is worth a shit for exact text searches now. None of them will even find the place you copied the text from — nevermind anywhere it's been horked and posted to.

I thought about plagiarism search sites, but I doubt they're indexing pr0n, as they're geared toward catching stuff in college papers.

Somebody really needs to startup a search engine that does what Google used to do and hurl those evil bastards and their AI shitstorm into the Yahoo! abyss where they belong.

 

[BigEdMagusson]

On my latest Lit posting an anonymous reader commented, asking me if I was Mom Lover on Storiesonline. Because he'd read my Aunt Tina story there posted by that person. I looked it up and sure enough Mom Lover posted Living With Aunt which is my story retitled. I have reached out to the admins and hopefully they will respond.

In the meantime, if you write incest stories you might want to check out this person and make sure he's not posting your work.

Several of us who post primarily on Storiesonline have openly wondered how Mom Lover could be so prolific, as Mom Lover was posting a couple of stories a week. We thought it was AI. Theft is a lot worse.

The SOL webmaster is usually pretty responsive. Hopefully, he'll take care of this quickly.

 

[RejectReality]

Several of us who post primarily on Storiesonline have openly wondered how Mom Lover could be so prolific, as Mom Lover was posting a couple of stories a week. We thought it was AI. Theft is a lot worse.

The SOL webmaster is usually pretty responsive. Hopefully, he'll take care of this quickly.

Doesn't look like it. Said Mom Lover was 'warned' after the story was taken down.

I'm sure it was just the one story stolen. Just a lapse of judgement. The rest of the stuff hacked into tiny bits for engagement farming is surely their own work

Bullshit. It's simply that nobody else has been alerted that their stuff has been stolen, and search engines no longer function properly for exact text searches, making it virtually impossible to check that way. We really need a prolific incest reader from here to check that account and alert the rest of the authors the scumbag has stolen from.

 

[RejectReality]

I switched up to searching shorter bits of text without exact search quotes, and I've come up with two of them.

https://www.literotica.com/s/two-women-one-my-mom-share-my-bed-ch-01 by NYBoss is under MomLover's account as Mom, Son, and Girlfriend.

https://www.literotica.com/s/auntie-let-me-console-you by Jism786 is under MomLover's account as Impregnate Widow Aunt

Contacting them now.

https://www.literotica.com/s/mom-and-aunt-need-my-help-pt-01 by idkwhothisis is under MomLover's account as Accidentally, I got my Mom and Aunt Pregnant.

https://www.literotica.com/s/memories-of-my-mother by paulward1 is under MomLover's account as Alone with Mom

https://www.literotica.com/s/moms-my-someone-special-pt-01 by mostdefinitely is on there as How I Lost My Virginity to Mom

https://www.literotica.com/s/finding-the-grail by MountainDewMan is on there as I Got Caught By Mom

 

[AwkwardlySet]

These assholes do these things because they can get away with it. You can't set an example by just privately warning people. Banning, naming and shaming, and even withdrawing funds if possible, is what any website that sells stories should do. Of course, those websites are almost always about the money, not about integrity.

 

[RejectReality]

These assholes do these things because they can get away with it. You can't set an example by just privately warning people. Banning, naming and shaming, and even withdrawing funds if possible, is what any website that sells stories should do. Of course, those websites are almost always about the money, not about integrity.

I've now sent six links from six different pen names in addition to the one that was already reported and removed. All of them chopping off forwards, making minor edits, and changing the character names as the only difference between the texts.

If this account isn't nuked by the end of the day, I think I'm pulling all my work from there. It's fucking ridiculous that there's this much evidence and that account is still fucking there on some vague notion that "It could be them under a different pen name".

There's fucking seven of them and one has already been reported and removed! Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick...

 

[SinclairGroupLLP]

I do think for stories here on Literotica, the pagination is a slight hinderance to thieves. If you publish your novel of 50K words in 10 chapters, each one will have two pages. That's 20 cut and paste operations.

This must be why nobody rips my stuff off, since it's my 600k word novel in 20 chapters of 30k each, and nobody wants to cut and paste that much.

Or it just sucks.

I mean, it could be both, right?

 

[MillieDynamite]

Less competition, better for me, so either way, win ... win for me.

I've now sent six links from six different pen names in addition to the one that was already reported and removed. All of them chopping off forwards, making minor edits, and changing the character names as the only difference between the texts.

If this account isn't nuked by the end of the day, I think I'm pulling all my work from there. It's fucking ridiculous that there's this much evidence and that account is still fucking there on some vague notion that "It could be them under a different pen name".

There's fucking seven of them and one has already been reported and removed! Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick...

 

[RejectReality]

Now I'm really getting pissed. https://www.literotica.com/s/mother-coming-out by TXRad is on there as Sex Education by Mom

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Now I'm really getting pissed. https://www.literotica.com/s/mother-coming-out by TXRad is on there as Sex Education by Mom

Is this all posted under that same account that Rob reported?

 

[RejectReality]

Is this all posted under that same account that Rob reported?

Every damn one of them.

 

[Rob_Royale]

@RejectReality thanks for putting in the time to expose this person. I hope this overwhelming evidence is enough to shut down that account.

 

[RejectReality]

https://www.literotica.com/s/my-parents-anniversary another one by mostdefinitely as Son's Gift to Mom.

 

[AwkwardlySet]

Every damn one of them.

There's Author's Hangout on SOL as well. Maybe making a topic about it there and naming that fucker publicly would put pressure on the website to react properly?

Edit: I've never posted there, but I trust you about these finds to confirm them there and back you up, in case you decide to make the post.

 

[RejectReality]

https://www.literotica.com/s/a-day-at-my-aunts by matusik as Aunt Suzy.

The only ones I haven't been able to find ended up having underage elements, so he must be stealing them from somewhere else. I'm using the site:literotica.com limiter for my searches. At least the fuckwits at Google haven't broken that yet.

And the last one is underage. That's only 3 I couldn't find on Lit because they can't be published here, and only one duplicate pen name out of ten frikkin' stories.